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20th Nov '17 10:42:55 PM theknack101
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* ''Film/RebelWithoutACause'', the film that made James Dean ''the'' cultural icon to an entire generation of teenagers, was made essentially as an Series/AfterSchoolSpecial to warn that "juvenile delinquency" would bring about the downfall of society.

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* ''Film/RebelWithoutACause'', the film that made James Dean ''the'' cultural icon to an entire generation of teenagers, was made essentially as an Series/AfterSchoolSpecial to warn that "juvenile delinquency" would bring about the downfall of society. It does help that the movie played almost all of the teenage characters as sympathetic characters with poor home lives, which was much more nuanced than other "teens are monsters" movies that came later.
20th Nov '17 10:38:32 PM theknack101
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* ''Film/Whiplash'': There are those who saw the ending as Neiman's uplifting triumph, who are happy that he finally got the approval of Fletcher, his sadistic jazz conductor. However, the ending is really pretty depressing. Neiman has sacrificed basically everything in his life to his pursuit of music, and by upstaging his fellow players who are all trying to get noticed by talent agents for an extended drum solo, he is probably shooting himself in the foot just to one up/get recognition from his old conductor. And while he is playing his solo, there is a long shot of his father watching from off stage, looking aghast at what his son has become. An alternate ending that director Damien Chazelle had in mind was a lot less subtle, jumping a decade into the future, where we find that Neiman has died in his 30s as a burned out junkie, and at his funeral, Fletcher calls him a fucking ingrate.

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* ''Film/Whiplash'': ''Film/{{Whiplash}}'': There are those who saw the ending as Neiman's uplifting triumph, who are happy that he finally got the approval of Fletcher, his sadistic jazz conductor. However, the ending is really pretty depressing. Neiman has sacrificed basically everything in his life to his pursuit of music, and by upstaging his fellow players who are all trying to get noticed by talent agents for an extended drum solo, he is probably shooting himself in the foot just to one up/get recognition from his old conductor. And while he is playing his solo, there is a long shot of his father watching from off stage, looking aghast at what his son has become. An alternate ending that director Damien Chazelle had in mind was a lot less subtle, jumping a decade into the future, where we find that Neiman has died in his 30s as a burned out junkie, and at his funeral, Fletcher calls him a fucking ingrate.
20th Nov '17 10:38:10 PM theknack101
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* ''Film/Whiplash'': There are those who saw the ending as Neiman's uplifting triumph, who are happy that he finally got the approval of Fletcher, his sadistic jazz conductor. However, the ending is really pretty depressing. Neiman has sacrificed basically everything in his life to his pursuit of music, and by upstaging his fellow players who are all trying to get noticed by talent agents for an extended drum solo, he is probably shooting himself in the foot just to one up/get recognition from his old conductor. And while he is playing his solo, there is a long shot of his father watching from off stage, looking aghast at what his son has become. An alternate ending that director Damien Chazelle had in mind was a lot less subtle, jumping a decade into the future, where we find that Neiman has died in his 30s as a burned out junkie, and at his funeral, Fletcher calls him a fucking ingrate.
19th Sep '17 6:50:26 PM DocWildNole
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* ''Film/RebelWithoutACause'', the film that made James Dean ''the'' cultural icon to an entire generation of teenagers, was made essentially as an Series/AfterSchoolSpecial to warn that biker gangs and rebellious teenagers would bring about the downfall of society.

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* ''Film/RebelWithoutACause'', the film that made James Dean ''the'' cultural icon to an entire generation of teenagers, was made essentially as an Series/AfterSchoolSpecial to warn that biker gangs and rebellious teenagers "juvenile delinquency" would bring about the downfall of society.
19th Sep '17 6:43:45 PM DocWildNole
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* Many people sympathize with Colonel "You can't handle the truth!" Jessup of ''Film/AFewGoodMen'' and his famous courtroom speech (intended as a MotiveRant) in which he admits he ordered the "Code Red" ("You want me on that wall! You need me on that wall!") is admired by many. This is partly because the film removed Kaffee's rebuttal in the stage play where he points out that Jessup essentially defied his responsibility as a Marine to uphold the law in order to do so.

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* Many people sympathize with Colonel "You can't handle the truth!" Jessup of ''Film/AFewGoodMen'' and his famous courtroom speech (intended as a MotiveRant) in which he admits he ordered the "Code Red" ("You want me on that wall! You need me on that wall!") is admired by many. This is partly because the film removed Kaffee's rebuttal in the stage play where he points out that Jessup essentially defied his responsibility as a Marine to uphold the law in order to do so. It may also be because while Cruise, Moore and Pollak are all fine actors, and the film certainly makes them believable as competent lawyers, apparently Creator/RobReiner never asked any to make the ''military'' side of their characters believable, until the very end of the picture -- by which point it's too late.
10th Sep '17 10:20:33 PM WillBGood
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** Also, "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIlG9aSMCpg derka derka Muhammad Allah jihad]]" is used by some people to disparage Arabs and Muslims, when it's supposed to be a satire of the ridiculous image many Americans have of Arabs. Plenty of these racists know this, but think it's funny anyway, and [[ParodyRetcon then use "it's just satire" to make themselves feel self-aware.]]

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** Also, "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIlG9aSMCpg derka derka Muhammad Allah jihad]]" is used by some people to disparage Arabs and Muslims, when it's supposed to be a satire of the ridiculous image many Americans have of Arabs. Plenty of these racists know this, but think it's funny anyway, and [[ParodyRetcon [[JustJokingJustification then use "it's just satire" to make themselves feel self-aware.]]
10th Sep '17 10:19:43 PM WillBGood
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* "Film/{{Showgirls}}" is a satire of Hollywood 'a star is born' narratives, mocking the conventions of that genre with its intentionally absurd plot and excessive style, while revealing the ideologically corrupt nature of these American dreams. At least, that was the intention - legions of fans just see it as hilarious trash.

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* "Film/{{Showgirls}}" ''Film/{{Showgirls}}'' is a satire of Hollywood 'a star is born' narratives, mocking the conventions of that genre with its intentionally absurd plot and excessive style, while revealing the ideologically corrupt nature of these American dreams. At least, that was the intention - legions of fans just see it as hilarious trash.
10th Sep '17 10:19:20 PM WillBGood
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* The "Film/{{Saw}}" franchise has a disturbing number of fans who believe Jigsaw's methods of torturing people into appreciating life is actually ''beneficial''. Never mind the fact that the guy's a manipulative, hypocritical, homicidal sadist who ruins far more lives than anything, but he's also endangered dozens of innocents, [[WouldHurtAChild including children.]] Quite a few characters actually [[ShutUpHanniball call him out on this]] throughout the series, including a DirtyCop looking for his son, a doctor he's holding hostage to cure his brain tumor, and even his own henchwoman. The most recent installment even has a scene where one of the survivors rants about [[YouMonster how Jigsaw and his minions made her life worse]], and how fucking stupid you'd have to be to think any of this legitimately helps people.

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* The "Film/{{Saw}}" ''Film/{{Saw}}'' franchise has a disturbing number of fans who believe Jigsaw's methods of torturing people into appreciating life is actually ''beneficial''. Never mind the fact that the guy's a manipulative, hypocritical, homicidal sadist who ruins far more lives than anything, but he's also endangered dozens of innocents, [[WouldHurtAChild including children.]] Quite a few characters actually [[ShutUpHanniball [[ShutUpHannibal call him out on this]] throughout the series, including a DirtyCop looking for his son, a doctor he's holding hostage to cure his brain tumor, and even his own henchwoman. The most recent installment even has a scene where one of the survivors rants about [[YouMonster how Jigsaw and his minions made her life worse]], and how fucking stupid you'd have to be to think any of this legitimately helps people.
10th Sep '17 10:09:22 PM WillBGood
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* The more upbeat, disco version of ''One Night Only'' is one of the most iconic songs of ''Film/{{Dreamgirls}}'', but it's not meant to be viewed positively at all. It's meant as StylisticSuck, a TakeThat to the disco era and is plagerized off of a former member of the group just as she was starting to make a living on her own, [[KickTheDog for extremely selfish reasons.]] The plagerized version's lyrics [[DramaticallyMissingThePoint Dramatically Miss The Point]] of the original, which was about being in love with someone who doesn't give a crap about you and only wants you for one night. The disco version changes the "you" in "you really don't have to time" to "I", making it from the point of view of the one who doesn't give a crap and ''glorifying'' it.

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* The more upbeat, disco version of ''One Night Only'' is one of the most iconic songs of ''Film/{{Dreamgirls}}'', but it's not meant to be viewed positively at all. It's meant as StylisticSuck, a TakeThat to the disco era and is plagerized plagiarized off of a former member of the group just as she was starting to make a living on her own, [[KickTheDog for extremely selfish reasons.]] The plagerized plagiarized version's lyrics [[DramaticallyMissingThePoint Dramatically Miss The the Point]] of the original, which was about being in love with someone who doesn't give a crap about you and only wants you for one night. The disco version changes the "you" in "you really don't have to time" to "I", making it from the point of view of the one who doesn't give a crap and ''glorifying'' it.
8th Sep '17 12:14:01 PM MBG
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** The line "I'd buy that for a dollar!" is pretty clearly intended as HumorDissonance; it's repeated over and over as the {{Catchphrase}} of the corpulent lead of a glitzy, sleazy TV show, frequently uttered while he's leering at women. We're never even given [[OrphanedPunchline any real setup for it]], so there's nothing to laugh at. The entire thing is very clearly a satire of crass, soulless, catchphrase-driven TV shows... but for whatever reason, "I'd buy that for a dollar!" has become one of the film's most commonly-quoted lines, showing up without a hint of irony in things like ''VideoGame/SmashTV''. Even the remake used it, something that didn't go unnoticed by people wondering if it had missed the point of the original film.
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