History Manga / Cyborg009

8th May '18 12:04:11 PM narm00
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Always in 2008 mangaka Yasushi Hoshino wrote and illustrated a 62 pages oneshot retelling of the team's origin story for a special issue celebrating the 50th anniversary of ShonenSunday. It's a slightly more DarkerAndEdgier retelling and contains a few elements that would be picked up by following adaptations, most notably giving 002 a more realistic redesign. [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes It's never been collected in volume or reprinted.]]

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Always in In 2008 mangaka Yasushi Hoshino wrote and illustrated a 62 pages oneshot retelling of the team's origin story for a special issue celebrating the 50th anniversary of ShonenSunday. It's a slightly more DarkerAndEdgier retelling and contains a few elements that would be picked up by following adaptations, most notably giving 002 a more realistic redesign. [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes It's never been collected in volume or reprinted.]]
6th May '18 2:45:19 AM Rday
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** In final episode of ''Call of Justice'' the Emperor states he will become {{God}}. The English dub alters this to him more generically stating he will become ''a'' god.
5th May '18 9:00:32 AM ferfrnir
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* OutOfCharacterMoment: "The City of Wind" is seen as an Out of Character ''Episode'' for 009. once he meets [[MysteriousWaif Princess Ixquic]]. It's not unusual for him to [[RuleOfEmpathy immediately empathize with others]] and [[TheDulcineaEffect want to help]] [[ChronicHeroSyndrome those in need]]... the problem is his abrupt LackOfEmpathy for his ''TrueCompanions'', particularly towards G.B./007, who has just lost one of his oldest and most idolized friends from his old life (''and the person they were searching for'' in the first place) as well as towards his best friend and possible LoveInterest Francoise/003 (who had been BroughtDownToNormal ''and'' traumatised upon [[spoiler: finding several emtombed corpses]], so she was desperately trying to not give into HeroicSelfDeprecation) [[spoiler:because Ixquic, while '''''not''''' being evil, isn't very good at being [[KidWithTheLeash Kabrakan's leash]]]]. Considering that compassion is one of Joe's defining traits ''as a whole'', his treatment of the others during that episode is jarringly off (and specially when he openly tells 007 to stop mourning his friend ''because his pain was less important than that of a girl he has just met hours ago''), though thankfully isn't brought up again. [[spoiler: The possibility that Ixquic [[MagicMusic has a siren-like influence on him with her beautiful singing]]) is brought up by Albert who compares her to the legendary [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorelei Lorelei]], but it's neither confirmed nor denied.]]

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* OutOfCharacterMoment: "The City of Wind" is seen as an Out of Character ''Episode'' for 009. once he meets [[MysteriousWaif Princess Ixquic]]. It's not unusual for him to [[RuleOfEmpathy immediately empathize with others]] and [[TheDulcineaEffect want to help]] [[ChronicHeroSyndrome those in need]]... the problem is his abrupt LackOfEmpathy for his ''TrueCompanions'', particularly towards G.B./007, who has just lost one of his oldest and most idolized friends from his old life (''and the person they were searching for'' in the first place) as well as towards his best friend and possible LoveInterest Francoise/003 (who had been BroughtDownToNormal ''and'' traumatised upon [[spoiler: finding several emtombed corpses]], so she was desperately trying to not give into HeroicSelfDeprecation) [[spoiler:because Ixquic, while '''''not''''' being evil, isn't very good at being [[KidWithTheLeash Kabrakan's leash]]]]. Considering that compassion is one of Joe's defining traits ''as a whole'', his treatment of the others during that episode is jarringly off (and specially when he openly tells 007 to stop mourning his friend ''because his pain was less important than that of a girl he has just met hours ago''), off, though thankfully isn't brought up again. [[spoiler: The possibility that Ixquic [[MagicMusic has a siren-like influence on him with her beautiful singing]]) is brought up by Albert who compares her to the legendary [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorelei Lorelei]], but it's neither confirmed nor denied.]]]]
** A case of adaptation caused inconsistency: in the manga, especially the late '70s run, Joe would take his role as TheHero very seriously, and put his duty of helping people asking for his help before anything else, usually with little to no objection from his teammates. The original version of the story was an acknowledgment of this issue, and intentionally showed what would have happened if, for once, someone in the group had their own motivations and stakes in one of these situations, and the tensions that would have been born from it. [[spoiler: And it should also be noted that, when the group meets Ixquic for the first time in the original, there was no prior clarifying discussion between Joe and them about her and her situation (Joe just disappears and reappears later with her). So when he first sees her G.B., who has grown to believe that she has murdered his friend on purpose, points his gun at her yelling that he'll kill her, [[{{Bowdlerise}} which is completely omitted from the anime version]] and explains Joe's more protective stance towards her.]] The 2001 anime version, on the other hand, has none of these elements, and while it goes out of its way to [[AdaptationExpansion make Ixquic's character and G.B.'s relationship with his friend more fleshed out than the original manga did]], it also [[AdaptedOut leaves all this out]], making the situation and Joe's actions and logic feel decidedly out of character and confusing.
8th Feb '18 12:47:45 PM ferfrnir
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Always in 2008 mangaka Yasushi Hoshino wrote and illustrated a 62 pages oneshot retelling of the team's origin story for a special issue celebrating the 50th anniversary of ShonenSunday. It's a slightly more DarkerAndEdgier retelling and contains a few elements that would be picked up by following adaptations, most notably giving 002 a more realistic redesign. [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes It's never been collected in volume or reprinted.]]


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*** Another very huge early weirdness would be how, in the manga version of the Birth arc, he straight out says that he's happy with his cyborg body, and wouldn't want to get back to his former human one.
28th Jan '18 1:13:56 PM ferfrnir
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: The Tokyopop edition of the manga gives us an almost literal example, as they managed to slip a few instances of [[ForeignCussWord "Scheisse"]] in 004's dialogue.

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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: The Tokyopop edition of the manga gives us an almost literal example, as they managed to slip a few instances of times the word [[ForeignCussWord "Scheisse"]] in 004's dialogue.


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** Some fansubbers tend to render 003's family name as Arnelle rather than Arnoul.
23rd Jan '18 9:08:42 AM Kindle4Light
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* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman

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* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman%%* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: ZeroContextExample
11th Jan '18 1:41:50 PM ferfrnir
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: The Tokyopop edition of the manga gives us an almost literal example, as they managed to slip a few instances of [[BilingualBonus "Scheisse"]] in 004's dialogue.

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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: The Tokyopop edition of the manga gives us an almost literal example, as they managed to slip a few instances of [[BilingualBonus [[ForeignCussWord "Scheisse"]] in 004's dialogue.
8th Jan '18 12:47:15 PM ferfrnir
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: The Tokyopop edition of the manga gives us an almost literal example, as they managed to slip a few instances of [[BilingualBonus "Scheisse"]] in 004's dialogue.
9th Dec '17 4:57:54 AM Bissek
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* RevealingCoverup: "Call for Justice" has the Blessed try to kill the cyborgs the moment they learn of the other group's existence, then frame them for terrorism when the first two attempts fail, inspiring the cyborgs to investigate the Blessed and eventually stop them. Given that at the time this happened, the team knew nothing of the Blessed's plans and were still trying to figure out if there was a reason they should ''care'' that there was a hidden group of immortals out there, the Blessed's plans were less than a week from reaching the point where they'd be unstoppable, and nothing in those plans required that the 00-Cyborgs be destroyed, merely that they stay away from the one incomplete part of their plan, which they had no way of knowing was important at the time, if the people who had allegedly been ruling the world from the shadows for a thousand years had any understanding of subtlety, they'd have won.
8th Dec '17 6:27:46 PM Bissek
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** The "Call of Justice" anime has [[spoiler:the cyborgs defeating the Blessed, but 004 and 009 were lost to HeroicSacrifice (Heinrich staying behind on a space station being launched into the sun to prevent Emperor from launching its omnicidal payload, and 009 accelerating past the point of no return to trap Emperor there as well), and the entire incident they prevented being covered up with the authorities, leaving the survivors with no thanks for their actions beyond their being falsely labelled as terrorists being quietly revoked.]]
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