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30th May '16 10:37:47 PM Zxczxczbfgman
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** In fact, it may be ''because'' they are still used that they still look "modern". [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth-generation_jet_fighter The most recent generation of fighter aircraft]] look "properly" futuristic, but are still too AwesomeButImpractical to see wide use, so it will be a few years yet before the F-16 starts to look Zeerust-y.
30th May '16 5:54:33 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* The ''TomSwift'' series of books (1910 or so) foretold some interesting developments, such as stealth airplanes (though in this case the stealth related to silence), television, and laser weapons. The ''Tom Swift, Jr.'' series of books (50s and 60s) also foretold some interesting developments including pocket calculators, space shuttles and space stations.

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* The ''TomSwift'' ''Literature/TomSwift'' series of books (1910 or so) foretold some interesting developments, such as stealth airplanes (though in this case the stealth related to silence), television, and laser weapons. The ''Tom Swift, Jr.'' series of books (50s and 60s) also foretold some interesting developments including pocket calculators, space shuttles and space stations.
21st May '16 1:51:39 PM Doug86
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* DC's 1980s ''Franchise/StarTrek'' comics managed a level of datedness filmed Star Trek never did. One issue showed the Starfleet Records Division, with filing cards. The show was fairly consistent in showing us that we would finally have the paperless office by the 23rd century. The GoldKeyComics were just as dated, technology extrapolated from TheSixties even though the comics were published well into TheSeventies.

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* DC's 1980s ''Franchise/StarTrek'' comics managed a level of datedness filmed Star Trek never did. One issue showed the Starfleet Records Division, with filing cards. The show was fairly consistent in showing us that we would finally have the paperless office by the 23rd century. The GoldKeyComics Creator/GoldKeyComics were just as dated, technology extrapolated from TheSixties even though the comics were published well into TheSeventies.
26th Apr '16 11:26:05 AM Kadorhal
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-->'''George Jetson:''' We're from the future.\\
'''Elroy Jetson:''' The 21st century!\\
'''George Jetson:''' The magnificent far-off year of ''2002''!\\
'''Birdman:''' ''(looks at his desk calendar - it's 200'''4''')'' Really.
22nd Apr '16 7:02:31 AM PKMN37
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* Anime/OutlawStar: In ''The Demon of the Water Planet'', the old man who hired the crew to go get sunken treasure hands Jim a floppy disk.
19th Apr '16 12:51:37 AM aye_amber
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* ''Film/TheIsland'' is mostly devoid of zeerust. It takes place in 2019 (released in 2005), where Los Angeles looks pretty much the same, except for efficient high-speed mass transit. Though the vehicles are pretty much all modern cars (no junkers). MSN runs a free database that allows you to look up anyone you need at booths, and the phones and computers are pretty much the same, albeit with more voice recognition software. However, for everything that is perfectly in place, something is off. The police have flying jet bikes with machine guns, tiny spiderbots can enter someone's body through their tear ducts to act as a tracking device, and, of course, [[spoiler:''giant underground colonies where sentient clones are raised for the wealthy as organ banks.'']] All this is supposed to come about in ten years?! The one thing that they almost got right was the video game that tracks movement, though the Xbox Kinect never really worked well with anything but dancing games.
* ''Film/LogansRun'' could not look more 1970s if it were set in a disco.
* A strangely modern example appears in ''Film/MenInBlack'': K shows J a tiny disc, explaining "it'll replace CD's soon." Back then, it looked like the logical next step in audio recording medium. But with the invention of the MP3, it seems we skipped that "micro-disc" step. The trope is then used intentionally in the third movie, with the 1969 MIB headquarters (as well as many of the aliens inside) having a very Zeerusty look.
* Fritz Lang's ''Film/{{Metropolis}}'' has vid-phones, with 1920-s style handsets. Much like Le Corbusier, the cars on the elevated freeways are all Model T's. The flying taxis are a mix of antique biplanes and RaygunGothic [[ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld zeppelins]]. It has ticker-tape machines and antique IBM devices instead of computers, of course.
* The ''Film/PlanetOfTheApes2001'' remake starts out on a futuristic spaceship, yet one from which trained apes are sent on scouting missions. Chimps did play a key role in old 1960s orbital exploration, but were only used to confirm that the space-borne environment wouldn't hamper the anthropoid brain or body, before human astronauts could take their place. Nowadays it's rodents, fish, and various invertebrates that are commonly sent into orbit, while far-flung surveying of the solar system is performed by robots: there's no ''point'' to launching apes anymore.

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* ''Film/TheIsland'' is mostly devoid of zeerust. It takes place in 2019 (released in 2005), where Los Angeles looks pretty much the same, except for efficient high-speed mass transit. Though the vehicles are pretty much all modern cars (no junkers). MSN runs a free database that allows you to look up anyone you need at booths, and the phones and computers are pretty much the same, albeit with more voice recognition software. However, for everything that is perfectly in place, something is off. The police have flying jet bikes with machine guns, tiny spiderbots spider bots can enter someone's body through their tear ducts to act as a tracking device, and, of course, [[spoiler:''giant [[spoiler: ''giant underground colonies where sentient clones are raised for the wealthy as organ banks.'']] All this is supposed to come about in ten years?! The one thing that they almost got right was the video game that tracks movement, though the Xbox Kinect never really worked well with anything but dancing games.
* ''Film/LogansRun'' could not look more 1970s 1970's if it were set in a disco.
* A strangely modern example appears in ''Film/MenInBlack'': ''Film/MenInBlack:'' K shows J a tiny disc, explaining explaining: "it'll replace CD's soon." Back then, it looked like the logical next step in audio recording medium. But with the invention of the MP3, it seems we skipped that "micro-disc" step. The trope is then used intentionally in the third movie, with the 1969 MIB headquarters (as well as many of the aliens inside) having a very Zeerusty look.
* Fritz Lang's Creator/FritzLang's ''Film/{{Metropolis}}'' has vid-phones, with 1920-s 1920's style handsets. Much like Le Corbusier, the cars on the elevated freeways are all Model T's. The flying taxis are a mix of antique biplanes and RaygunGothic [[ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld zeppelins]]. zeppelins.]] It has ticker-tape machines and antique IBM devices instead of computers, of course.
* The ''Film/PlanetOfTheApes2001'' remake starts out on a futuristic spaceship, yet one from which trained apes are sent on scouting missions. Chimps did play a key role in old 1960s 1960's orbital exploration, but were only used to confirm that the space-borne environment wouldn't hamper the anthropoid brain or body, before human astronauts could take their place. Nowadays it's rodents, fish, and various invertebrates that are commonly sent into orbit, while far-flung surveying of the solar system is performed by robots: there's There's no ''point'' to launching apes anymore.
19th Apr '16 12:48:48 AM aye_amber
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* In the 1970s, [[ComicBook/LegionofSuperheroes The Legion of Superheroes]] introduced new costumes for its team of 30th-century teenage heroes. Most memorable: Phantom Girl, whose new costume was a white bellbottom jumpsuit.

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* In the 1970s, [[ComicBook/LegionofSuperheroes The Legion of Superheroes]] introduced new costumes for its team of 30th-century teenage heroes. Most memorable: Phantom Girl, whose new costume was a white bellbottom bell bottom jumpsuit.



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* Have you ever used a phone booth with a video screen rather than just a cell phone? [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZb0avfQme8 You Will]]. Many of the technologies featured in the ads did in fact come to pass, including turn-by-turn GPS, touchscreen tablets, wireless internet, and video-on-demand services -- mostly in forms remarkably similar to the commercials' versions. The most out-of-date part is the assumption that AT&T would be the main carrier for all -- or ''any'' -- of these technologies. Almost every one of those technologies exists in pretty much the form depicted in the commercial but most of them are either non-centralized or connected to the public Internet; the only way AT&T would make any money off of any of them would be as a patent holder.
* Telmex (a telephone company in Mexico) heralded in 2008 its brand-new video phone service by airing a "Homage to the Video Calls", which was basically a montage of every single "TV phone" featured in a sci-fi movie. Except [[{{Fanservice}} that one]] from ''Film/DemolitionMan''.

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* Have you ever used a phone booth with a video screen rather than just a cell phone? [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZb0avfQme8 You Will]]. Will.]] Many of the technologies featured in the ads did in fact come to pass, including turn-by-turn GPS, touchscreen tablets, wireless internet, and video-on-demand services -- mostly in forms remarkably similar to the commercials' versions. The most out-of-date part is the assumption that AT&T would be the main carrier for all -- or ''any'' -- of these technologies. Almost every one of those technologies exists in pretty much the form depicted in the commercial but most of them are either non-centralized or connected to the public Internet; the only way AT&T would make any money off of any of them would be as a patent holder.
* Telmex (a telephone company in Mexico) heralded in 2008 its brand-new video phone service by airing a "Homage to the Video Calls", Calls," which was basically a montage of every single "TV phone" featured in a sci-fi movie. Except [[{{Fanservice}} that one]] from ''Film/DemolitionMan''.''Film/DemolitionMan.''



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* ''Fanfic/AdviceAndTrust'': In chapter 8 Shinji and Asuka are watching [[UsefulNotes/LaserDisc laserdiscs]]. ''Laserdiscs''. In 2015. Justified when the writer points out that technologic development in the original proper series never went past TheNineties: Rei uses a bulky cell phone, Shinji a walkman, and the children play a Creator/Sega console.

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* ''Fanfic/AdviceAndTrust'': ''Fanfic/AdviceAndTrust:'' In chapter Chapter 8 Shinji and Asuka are watching [[UsefulNotes/LaserDisc laserdiscs]]. ''Laserdiscs''. laserdiscs.]] ''Laserdiscs.'' In 2015. Justified when the writer points out that technologic development in the original proper series never went past TheNineties: Rei uses a bulky cell phone, Shinji a walkman, Walkman, and the children play a Creator/Sega Creator/{{Sega}} console.
19th Apr '16 12:45:09 AM aye_amber
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*** Although, given that nanites were stated to fit within a human cell nucleus (~6µm in diameter) and they store at least two gigabytes, that's a storage density of 1.417×10⁶ bits/m³, which is 8 orders of magnitude higher than UsefulNotes/MicroSD cards (at 3.38×10¹⁸b/m³). Plus, it's implied they're significantly smaller than the cell nucleus and that multiple nanites would be working together inside. It's still way beyond our current capabilities.

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*** Although, given that nanites were stated to fit within a human cell nucleus (~6µm in diameter) and they store at least two gigabytes, that's a storage density of 1.417×10⁶ bits/m³, which is 8 orders of magnitude higher than UsefulNotes/MicroSD Micro SD cards (at 3.38×10¹⁸b/m³). Plus, it's implied they're significantly smaller than the cell nucleus and that multiple nanites would be working together inside. It's still way beyond our current capabilities.
19th Apr '16 12:43:23 AM aye_amber
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** The ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' episode "Trials and Tribble-ations", in which the crew time-traveled into the setting of the episode "Trouble with Tribbles", mined a lot of amusement out of the style differences of clothing, devices, and Klingons.

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** The ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' episode "Trials and Tribble-ations", Tribble-ations," in which the crew time-traveled into the setting of the episode "Trouble with Tribbles", Tribbles," mined a lot of amusement out of the style differences of clothing, devices, and Klingons.



** ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' really made things interesting, considering it is a modern ''Trek'' with [[TheAestheticsOfTechnology modern designs]] yet is supposed to be set ''before'' the Original Series. It was a challenge to make their hand-held communicators bigger than modern cell phones yet smaller than the clunky boxes they used. The designers even said that in 40 years, the modern ''Trek'' will look like Zeerust (really, it won't take that long). Plotwise, things haven't changed much either: one of the stock patterns of threat in ''ST: TOS'' is "Step 1: take away the communicators". Similarly, by 2005 or so, the stock pattern in all contemporary media is "Step 1: [[CellPhonesAreUseless take away the cell phone]]". Most writers then and now haven't worked out how to create dire circumstance while having reliable mobile communication available (this is why ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' didn't get cellphones until the last season).

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** ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' really made things interesting, considering it is a modern ''Trek'' with [[TheAestheticsOfTechnology modern designs]] yet is supposed to be set ''before'' the Original Series. It was a challenge to make their hand-held communicators bigger than modern cell phones yet smaller than the clunky boxes they used. The designers even said that in 40 years, the modern ''Trek'' will look like Zeerust (really, it won't take that long). Plotwise, things haven't changed much either: one of the stock patterns of threat in ''ST: TOS'' is "Step 1: take away the communicators". Similarly, by 2005 or so, the stock pattern in all contemporary media is "Step 1: [[CellPhonesAreUseless take away the cell phone]]". phone.]]" Most writers then and now haven't worked out how to create dire circumstance while having reliable mobile communication available (this is why ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' didn't get cellphones until the last season).



** Trek's computing technology ''excluding [=AIs=]'' is absurdly primitive by contemporary standards. TOS has the Federation using hand-sized ''Microtapes'' in 2267 when we have [=MicroSDHC=] cards the size of a fingernail today.
** Let's give credit where it's due and acknowledge that Trek's [=PADDs=] have a great deal in common with modern [=PDAs=] and [=TabletPCs=] and that communicators are cellphone equivalents. Our cellphones, however, are restricted to sublight communication and ''at most'' single-planet range. PADD's, however, have aged about as poorly as the main computer systems. They seemed to have no built-in real-time communications capability (in particular no video) and were not capable of running multiple applications, which often resulted in users working with more than one PADD at a time.

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** Trek's computing technology ''excluding [=AIs=]'' AI's'' is absurdly primitive by contemporary standards. TOS has the Federation using hand-sized ''Microtapes'' in 2267 when we have [=MicroSDHC=] [=Micro=]SDHC cards the size of a fingernail today.
** Let's give credit where it's due and acknowledge that Trek's [=PADDs=] PADD's have a great deal in common with modern [=PDAs=] PDA's and [=TabletPCs=] Tablet PC's and that communicators are cellphone equivalents. Our cellphones, however, are restricted to sublight communication and ''at most'' single-planet range. PADD's, however, have aged about as poorly as the main computer systems. They seemed to have no built-in real-time communications capability (in particular no video) and were not capable of running multiple applications, which often resulted in users working with more than one PADD at a time.
19th Apr '16 12:40:16 AM aye_amber
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** The signature LCARS interface introduced in ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' as the look for all Starfleet ship control panels qualifies. It anticipated smartphone-like touch-sensitive virtual controls, but not most of computer graphic user interface advancements like tiled windows and multitasking. LCARS resembles a multitouch-enabled piece of DOS software. Since TNG debuted in 1987, before Windows 1.0 was readily available for IBM [=PCs=] and most home computers were Commodore 64s or ZX Spectrums, this is at least understandable.
** In one TNG episode, [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] marvels at how some machines can possess [[MundaneMadeAwesome whole gigabytes]] of memory. (Though to be fair, these machines were ''nanites''; we don't have gigabyte nanites yet)
*** Although, given that nanites were stated to fit within a human cell nucleus (~6µm in diameter) and they store at least two gigabytes, that's a storage density of 1.417×10⁶ bits/m³, which is 8 orders of magnitude higher than microSD cards (at 3.38×10¹⁸b/m³). Plus, it's implied they're significantly smaller than the cell nucleus and that multiple nanites would be working together inside. It's still way beyond our current capabilities.
*** Part of this may be explained/{{handwave}}d by Earth's history in the Trek universe -- The 1990s saw the Eugenics Wars which left things a bit stunted, followed by bad social climate and eventually World War III. Technology that developed in the real world didn't in the Trek universe.
* ''Series/DoctorWho'' has had some problems with this due to its exceptionally long run. Under various excuses, the new series has "modernized" such Zeerusted elements as the TARDIS interior (which has, on a few rare occasions, had a deliberately {{Steampunk}} look), the Cybermen, and the sonic screwdriver, though ''not'' the RobotBuddy K-9, designed in TheSeventies. In "School Reunion", a [[LampshadeHanging lampshade was hung]] on the latter:
-->'''Rose:''' Why does he look so... disco?\\

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** The signature LCARS interface introduced in ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' as the look for all Starfleet ship control panels qualifies. It anticipated smartphone-like smartphone like touch-sensitive virtual controls, but not most of computer graphic user interface advancements like tiled windows and multitasking. LCARS resembles a multitouch-enabled multi touch enabled piece of DOS software. Since TNG debuted in 1987, before Windows 1.0 was readily available for IBM [=PCs=] PC's and most home computers were Commodore 64s 64's or ZX Spectrums, this is at least understandable.
** In one TNG episode, [[CreatorsPet Wesley]] marvels at how some machines can possess [[MundaneMadeAwesome whole gigabytes]] of memory. (Though to be fair, these machines were ''nanites''; ''nanites;'' we don't have gigabyte nanites yet)
yet.)
*** Although, given that nanites were stated to fit within a human cell nucleus (~6µm in diameter) and they store at least two gigabytes, that's a storage density of 1.417×10⁶ bits/m³, which is 8 orders of magnitude higher than microSD UsefulNotes/MicroSD cards (at 3.38×10¹⁸b/m³). Plus, it's implied they're significantly smaller than the cell nucleus and that multiple nanites would be working together inside. It's still way beyond our current capabilities.
*** Part of this may be explained/{{handwave}}d explained / {{handwave}}d by Earth's history in the Trek universe -- The 1990s 1990's saw the Eugenics Wars which left things a bit stunted, followed by bad social climate and eventually World War III. Technology that developed in the real world didn't in the Trek universe.
* ''Series/DoctorWho'' has had some problems with this due to its exceptionally long run. Under various excuses, the new series has "modernized" such Zeerusted elements as the TARDIS interior (which has, on a few rare occasions, had a deliberately {{Steampunk}} look), the Cybermen, and the sonic screwdriver, though ''not'' the RobotBuddy K-9, designed in TheSeventies. In "School Reunion", Reunion," a [[LampshadeHanging lampshade was hung]] on the latter:
-->'''Rose:''' --> '''Rose:''' Why does he look so... disco?\\Disco?\\



** The revived ''Series/DoctorWho'' series console ''rooms'' have been "organic / coral" and "relatively shiny and futuristic for the 2010s". The console ''itself'' has a thrown-together old-fashioned scrapheap look, with bicycle pumps and hot-n-cold taps replacing random parts. TARDIS interiors are justified in that they're fully customisable by the user, and if they look out of date it's simply because the user wants it that way. On the other hand, modern Who may have Zeerusted itself in the future by referring to the interior looks as the "desktop theme".

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** The revived ''Series/DoctorWho'' series console ''rooms'' have been "organic / coral" and "relatively shiny and futuristic for the 2010s". 2010's." The console ''itself'' has a thrown-together old-fashioned thrown together old fashioned scrapheap look, with bicycle pumps and hot-n-cold taps replacing random parts. TARDIS interiors are justified in that they're fully customisable by the user, and if they look out of date it's simply because the user wants it that way. On the other hand, modern Who may have Zeerusted itself in the future by referring to the interior looks as the "desktop theme".theme."
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