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19th May '16 10:20:48 AM ReaderAt2046
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* Shows up here and there in FanFic/RainbowDoubleDashsLunaverse, mostly as side effects of Corona's betrayal.
** Gold is taboo. To mint coins from the stuff is borderline blasphemy (and possibly treason), nopony buys gold jewelry, and even to mention it in a complementary manner raises eyebrows.
** Similarly, there is a kind of phobia of the Sun. Nopony will willingly be out of doors at high noon (and if you need shelter from the noonday sun, even a complete stranger will let you in), and having a sun-themed cutie mark is considered a sign of incredibly bad luck.
** As you might expect, for ponies to eat meat is considered distinctly icky in most contexts, though the fact that there's a pretty well-known distinction between sapient and non-sapient species cuts down on the CarnivoreConfusion.
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30th Mar '16 6:22:01 PM Meritocrat
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* Dietary law? Try having an interfaith dinner with the Hindu who can't eat beef (and may be a vegetarian), the Jew who has to eat food prepared ritually (and won't eat pork, shellfish, and meat-dairy combos), the Muslim who has to have food prepared ritually according to other rituals (also no pork, but no alcohol too; meat-dairy combos are OK, but shellfish is off for Shiites), and the Sikh who can't have any meat that has been prepared ritualistically. Oh, and did we mention that if you have more than one Muslim, they might end up arguing about whether the Jewish rituals are "close enough"? Also, Mormons believe coffee (and anything with caffeine for some) and some forms of tea are very addictive and unwise to drink, and therefore avoid it at all cost, to the point of some not eating chocolate (where caffeine is also extracted from). Meat in general can be taken off the menu if it's Friday during Lent and you've got Catholics around.

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* Dietary law? Try having an interfaith dinner with the Hindu who can't eat beef (and may be a vegetarian), the Jew who has to eat food prepared ritually (and won't eat pork, shellfish, and meat-dairy combos), the Muslim who has to have food prepared ritually according to other rituals (also no pork, but no alcohol too; meat-dairy combos are OK, but shellfish is off for Shiites), OK), and the Sikh who can't have any meat that has been prepared ritualistically. Oh, and did we mention that if you have more than one Muslim, they might end up arguing about whether the Jewish rituals are "close enough"? Also, Mormons believe coffee (and anything with caffeine for some) and some forms of tea are very addictive and unwise to drink, and therefore avoid it at all cost, to the point of some not eating chocolate (where caffeine is also extracted from). Meat in general can be taken off the menu if it's Friday during Lent and you've got Catholics around.



** Sharia Law almost forbids any form of male and female contact-and [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment lets just leave it at that]].
*** Among other things, the Quran demands that a husband satisfy his wife in bed before focusing on his own satisfaction. On the other hand, any woman who refuses her husband in bed can be equally damned.

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** Sharia Law Islam almost forbids any form of (adult) male and female contact-and [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment lets just leave it at that]].
*** Among other things,
contact outside of the Quran demands that a husband satisfy his wife in bed before focusing on his own satisfaction. On the other hand, any woman who refuses her husband in bed can be equally damned.family.
14th Mar '16 12:33:16 PM Ana_Filth
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*** This is also the case in Africa and the Caribbean, where overweight women, particularly those with large rear ends, are traditionally considered more attractive than skinny women. Often heard in calypso and dancehall, but is sometimes present in American black culture too (Mystikal's classic "Baby Got Back" being a prominent example).

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*** This is also the case in Africa and the Caribbean, where overweight women, particularly those with large rear ends, are traditionally considered more attractive than skinny women. Often heard in calypso and dancehall, but is sometimes present in American black culture too (Mystikal's (Sir Mix-a-lot's classic "Baby Got Back" being a prominent example).
13th Mar '16 3:41:57 PM Morgenthaler
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* In ''{{Sliders}}'', practically every world the main characters land on either considers something normal from 'our' world taboo, or something taboo on 'our' world being normal there. Examples consist of a world where all technology and science is banned, a world where "fair trial" means "fastest draw", a world where the "Hippy" lifestyle never died out and so is freely accepted by practically all age-groups, where fortune-telling is a politically-charged position, and where dinosaur-poaching is outlawed. And that's not even half of what they show before Season 3.

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* In ''{{Sliders}}'', ''Series/{{Sliders}}'', practically every world the main characters land on either considers something normal from 'our' world taboo, or something taboo on 'our' world being normal there. Examples consist of a world where all technology and science is banned, a world where "fair trial" means "fastest draw", a world where the "Hippy" lifestyle never died out and so is freely accepted by practically all age-groups, where fortune-telling is a politically-charged position, and where dinosaur-poaching is outlawed. And that's not even half of what they show before Season 3.
3rd Mar '16 4:10:37 PM penguinist
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** Order the salad! Oh, wait. You'll have a problem with the Jain who can't eat root vegetable (carrots, potatoes, radish, turnips, etc), the Yazidi who can't have lettuce, the Buddhist who can't eat onions, Ashkenazi Jews who can't eat legumes during Passover, and the Kashmiri Brahmin who won't eat strongly spiced food (so no pepper, garlic, or onion).

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** Order the salad! Oh, wait. You'll have a problem with the Jain who can't eat root vegetable (carrots, potatoes, radish, turnips, etc), the Yazidi who can't have lettuce, the Buddhist or Krishna who can't eat onions, Ashkenazi Jews who can't eat legumes during Passover, and the Kashmiri Brahmin who won't eat strongly spiced food (so no pepper, garlic, or onion).



* Breastfeeding in public. In some places it will be cheered on, in others will get you arrested for disorderly conduct, and in further others simply not paid attention at all for being considered the normalest thing ever.

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* Breastfeeding in public. In some places it will be cheered on, in others will get you arrested for disorderly conduct, and in further others simply not paid attention at all for being considered the normalest most normal thing ever.



* Countries like Germany and the Netherlands consider religious cussing to be ''eons'' less offensive than say, the United States. Even in first grade, one can get away with terms like 'hell', 'damn', 'devil' and 'satan' without as much as judging glare.

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* Countries like Germany and the Netherlands consider religious cussing to be ''eons'' less offensive than say, the United States. Even in first grade, one can get away with terms like 'hell', 'damn', 'devil' and 'satan' 'Satan' without as much as judging glare.



** You don't even have to get that far from the USA. In Mexico and other Spanish-speaking countries, phrases like "¡maldición!" ("damn!"), "¿Qué diablos?" (roughly corresponds to "what the hell?"; literally means "what devils?") and even "(vete) al diablo!" and "vete al Infierno" (literally "(go) to the devil" and "go to hell"), can be heard in family-friendly media. The word "Infierno", used to refer to Hell as a place, is never censored or even afraid upon at all; "jokes" where characters can't say the word "hell" fall completely flat after dubbing. However, words like "estúpido" and "idiota" ("stupid" and "idiot") are much stronger than in English; "son of a bitch" is also ''much'' stronger than in American English; it's translated as "hijo de puta" (literally "son of a whore"). "Puta" is usually bleeped or not said at all on TV; it's synonym, "ramera", won't get bleeped, but it's still considered a demeaning word, and hardly ever heard on TV as well. The literal translation of "son of a bitch", "hijo de perra", is also very strong.

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** You don't even have to get that far from the USA. In Mexico and other Spanish-speaking countries, phrases like "¡maldición!" ("damn!"), "¿Qué diablos?" (roughly corresponds to "what the hell?"; literally means "what devils?") and even "(vete) al diablo!" and "vete al Infierno" (literally "(go) to the devil" and "go to hell"), can be heard in family-friendly media. The word "Infierno", used to refer to Hell as a place, is never censored or even afraid upon at all; "jokes" where characters can't say the word "hell" fall completely flat after dubbing. However, words like "estúpido" and "idiota" ("stupid" and "idiot") are much stronger than in English; "son of a bitch" is also ''much'' stronger than in American English; it's translated as "hijo de puta" (literally "son of a whore"). "Puta" is usually bleeped or not said at all on TV; it's its synonym, "ramera", won't get bleeped, but it's still considered a demeaning word, and hardly ever heard on TV as well. The literal translation of "son of a bitch", "hijo de perra", is also very strong.strong.
** On the other hand, Quebecois French swear words are ''all'' based on religion, to the point where they are referred to collectively as ''sacres''.
25th Feb '16 3:17:23 PM intastiel
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* In ''Literature/TheKingkillerChronicle'', the [[ProudWarriorRace Adem culture]] has no sexual taboo or inhibitions. They screw so frequently that they've never figured out that sex causes pregnancy. On the other hand, they find [[TheStoic any public display of emotion]] or even facial expression to be unseemly, to the point that they use hand motions rather than voice or facial cues to add subtext to their words. For related reasons, music is considered something done only with loved ones behind closed doors.

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* In ''Literature/TheKingkillerChronicle'', the [[ProudWarriorRace Adem culture]] has no sexual taboo or inhibitions. They screw so frequently that they've never figured out that sex causes pregnancy. On the other hand, they find [[TheStoic any public display of emotion]] or even facial expression to be unseemly, to the point that they use hand motions rather than voice or facial cues to add subtext to their words. For related reasons, music is considered something done only with loved ones behind closed doors. doors, which leaves TheBard Kvothe frustrated that they see his profession as akin to prostitution.



** Alethi culture holds that women have a "freehand" (right) and a "safehand" (left), and exposing the safehand is compared to going topless. Women of high birth basically aren't supposed to use it at all and keep it hidden in a sleeve, while common women wear a glove over it.
** Vorinism (the main religion of a number of cultures on Roshar, including the Alethi) is full of this. Its extremely rigid gender roles mean that men aren't allowed to be literate and women are forbidden from fighting. Jobs and even ''food'' are gender-segregated, while its taboo against telling the future forbids even guessing what's going to happen, meaning that gambling is limited to games based on hidden information, and people are deeply suspicious of weather forecasters (who also happen to be predominantly male, which, since women are expected to be the scholarly sex, makes it even worse).
** Meanwhile, Shin culture considers walking on stone taboo, which, as Shinovar is the only region on the planet with soil, is rather awkward for Shin traveling outside their homeland. In addition, simply picking up a weapon in Shinovar is grounds for being put into slavery.

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** Alethi culture holds that women have a "freehand" (right) and a "safehand" (left), and exposing the safehand is compared to going topless. Women of high birth basically aren't supposed to use it at all and keep it hidden in a sleeve, while common women wear a glove over it.
it. Several non-Alethi {{lampshade|Hanging}} the absurdity of the taboo.
** Vorinism (the main religion of a number of cultures on Roshar, including the Alethi) is full of this. Its extremely rigid gender roles mean that men aren't allowed to be literate and women are forbidden from fighting. Jobs and even ''food'' are gender-segregated, while its taboo against telling the future forbids even guessing what's going to happen, meaning that gambling is limited to games based on hidden information, and people are deeply suspicious of weather forecasters (who also happen to be predominantly male, which, since women are expected to be the scholarly sex, makes it even worse).
worse).
*** When the staid, genteel Highlord Dalinar is reminded of the time he tasted his sister-in-law's food -- and ''liked it!'' -- he's as embarrassed as if he'd been caught trying on her underwear.
** Meanwhile, Shin culture considers has a strong taboo against walking on stone taboo, stone, which, as Shinovar is the only region on the planet with soil, is rather awkward for Shin traveling outside their homeland. In addition, simply picking up a weapon in Shinovar is grounds for being put into slavery.
23rd Feb '16 2:50:49 PM margdean56
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** Another episode has a species which lacks gender, where identifying ''as'' one gender or another is viewed as an illness to be cured-forcibly. The parallel to historical and (often continuing [[CureYourGays treatment]] of LGBT people was very obvious, though [[BrokenAesop somewhat undermined]] with the fact that all the "genderless" aliens were played by female actors, and the character which identifies as female is also played by a woman, desiring a heterosexual relationship with Riker. Still, they tried.

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** Another episode has a species which lacks gender, where identifying ''as'' one gender or another is viewed as an illness to be cured-forcibly.cured--forcibly. The parallel to historical and (often continuing [[CureYourGays treatment]] of LGBT people was very obvious, though [[BrokenAesop somewhat undermined]] with the fact that all the "genderless" aliens were played by female actors, and the character which identifies as female is also played by a woman, desiring a heterosexual relationship with Riker. Still, they tried.
29th Jan '16 1:01:59 PM CelestialNavigator9
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** In Russia and other former Soviet countries, it is still considered strange for a couple to be dating for a long time before getting married (i.e. what is commonly-accepted in the West). Any dating period lasting more than a few months starts getting looks. This was slowly changing, due to Western influences (with words like "boyfriend" and "girlfriend" being adopted by the Russians), but many traditional Slavic customs remain, especially in rural areas, and the current ultra-conservative government is aiming to teach those promiscuous heterosexuals a lesson, since the pesky gay people are already dealt with.

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** In Russia and other former Soviet countries, it is still considered strange for a couple to be dating for a long time before getting married (i.e. what is commonly-accepted in the West). Any dating period lasting more than a few months starts getting looks. This was slowly changing, due to Western influences (with words like "boyfriend" and "girlfriend" being adopted by the Russians), but many traditional Slavic customs remain, especially in rural areas, and the current ultra-conservative government is aiming to teach those promiscuous heterosexuals a lesson, since the pesky gay people are already dealt with.areas.
16th Jan '16 3:58:21 PM StFan
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* In one ''ThisModernWorld'' strip by Tom Tomorrow, centuries in the future, there are people known as "breeders." We see them chanting "We're straight / We mate / Get used to it." A mainstream man says "Perverts," shuddering.
** The former is a real term used this way in "childfree" communities. Homosexuals will also sometimes use it as an insult towards bisexuals/pansexuals.
* Midnighter from ComicBook/TheAuthority is regarded oddly in a friendly manner by time-traveling allies from the future. Not because he is gay, because he is not bisexual. In the future, EveryoneIsBi.
* Similar to the TV examples below, one ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' miniseries featured a planet where there are three sexes and it is therefore seen as perverse (by the more conservative elements at least) to have only one sexual partner.

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* In one ''ThisModernWorld'' strip by Tom Tomorrow, centuries in the future, there are people known as "breeders." We see them chanting "We're straight / We mate / Get used to it." A mainstream man says "Perverts," shuddering.
** The former is a real term used this way in "childfree" communities. Homosexuals will also sometimes use it as an insult towards bisexuals/pansexuals.
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* Midnighter from ComicBook/TheAuthority ''ComicBook/TheAuthority'' is regarded oddly in a friendly manner by time-traveling allies from the future. Not because he is gay, because he is not bisexual. In the future, EveryoneIsBi.
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Similar to the TV examples below, one ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' miniseries featured a planet where there are three sexes and it is therefore seen as perverse (by the more conservative elements at least) to have only one sexual partner.



* Parodied in Kieron Gillen's current ''IronMan'' run. Tony Stark saves a planet from an alien invasion and gets invited back to bed by one of the planet's many princesses. However, once he removes his mask, she almost vomits in disgust at the abominably disgusting growth on his face: His beard. When she hears that he grew it ''intentionally'', he ends up getting kicked out of the palace, with him sheepishly offering to shave.

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* Parodied in Kieron Gillen's current ''IronMan'' ''ComicBook/IronMan'' run. Tony Stark saves a planet from an alien invasion and gets invited back to bed by one of the planet's many princesses. However, once he removes his mask, she almost vomits in disgust at the abominably disgusting growth on his face: His beard. When she hears that he grew it ''intentionally'', he ends up getting kicked out of the palace, with him sheepishly offering to shave.
shave.



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* In one ''ComicStrip/ThisModernWorld'' strip by Tom Tomorrow, centuries in the future, there are people known as "breeders." We see them chanting "We're straight / We mate / Get used to it." A mainstream man says "Perverts," shuddering. The former is a real term used this way in "childfree" communities. Homosexuals will also sometimes use it as an insult towards bisexuals/pansexuals.
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* The {{imageboard}} [=4chan=], home to all manner of horrific {{NSFW}} material, considers the single most heinous sexual practice to be... ''[[spoiler:consensual sex in the missionary position]]''. Definitely {{Played for Laughs}}.
** That shit gets even more horrifying when [[spoiler:done for the purpose of reproduction.]]
** And it's [[MoralEventHorizon ten times worse]] if [[spoiler:they're happily married.]]
** The gag is most prominent on the /d/ ("alternative hentai") board where there are occasional [[spoiler:"happy sex"]] threads that play on the joke.
** Scenes of a couple [[spoiler:holding hands]] can make even the kinkiest of /a/nons blush profusely.
* Similarly, [[spoiler: consensual heterosexual sex between spouses]] is occasionally played as the strangest, rarest, most taboo kink ever on {{Kink Meme}}s.
** Another "strange and unusual" request sometimes found on {{Kink Meme}}s is [[spoiler: gen fic, with no sex or romance at all]]!
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* In ''VisualNovel/CulpaInnata'', nuptial contracts (i.e. marriages) are seen as perversions and are illegal in the World Union. Only [[WretchedHive rogue states]] follow such barbaric customs. As for being with the same sexual partner for long periods of time, most people consider this strange. Families also don't exist, as children are sent off to Child Development Centers until they are adults. This leaves adults to make as much money and get as much sex as possible. Oh, and it is women who are expected to hit on men, ask them out, pay for dates, and initiate sex. This is often a problem for men who immigrate from rogue states, who still follow the old traditions. Their advances often put World Union women off, so they tend to go after women who have also emigrated, who also have trouble with this.
** [[TheStoic Stoicism]] is also important to World Union citizens, and any candidate for citizenship must display a great degree of it. Anyone who panics or gets overly emotional during the interview is rejected.

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* In ''VisualNovel/CulpaInnata'', nuptial contracts (i.e. marriages) are seen as perversions and are illegal in the World Union. Only [[WretchedHive rogue states]] follow such barbaric customs. As for being with the same sexual partner for long periods of time, most people consider this strange. Families also don't exist, as children are sent off to Child Development Centers until they are adults. This leaves adults to make as much money and get as much sex as possible. Oh, and it is women who are expected to hit on men, ask them out, pay for dates, and initiate sex. This is often a problem for men who immigrate from rogue states, who still follow the old traditions. Their advances often put World Union women off, so they tend to go after women who have also emigrated, who also have trouble with this.
** [[TheStoic Stoicism]] is also important to World Union citizens, and any candidate for citizenship must display a great degree of it. Anyone who panics or gets overly emotional during the interview is rejected.
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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', Xykon refers to people sexually attracted to living humans as "disgusting biophiliacs." This may imply he'd be just as grossed out by living humans making out with each other just like the thought of two liches making out with each other is to the average living human. He was explicitly shown, however, only to be repeatedly grossed out by [[ILoveTheDead Tsukiko's necrophiliac advances]] aimed at him, one of which he was rebuffing this way.

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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', ''VisualNovel/CulpaInnata'':
** Nuptial contracts (i.e. marriages) are seen as perversions and are illegal in the World Union. Only [[WretchedHive rogue states]] follow such barbaric customs. As for being with the same sexual partner for long periods of time, most people consider this strange. Families also don't exist, as children are sent off to Child Development Centers until they are adults. This leaves adults to make as much money and get as much sex as possible. Oh, and it is women who are expected to hit on men, ask them out, pay for dates, and initiate sex. This is often a problem for men who immigrate from rogue states, who still follow the old traditions. Their advances often put World Union women off, so they tend to go after women who have also emigrated, who also have trouble with this.
** [[TheStoic Stoicism]] is also important to World Union citizens, and any candidate for citizenship must display a great degree of it. Anyone who panics or gets overly emotional during the interview is rejected.
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* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'':
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Xykon refers to people sexually attracted to living humans as "disgusting biophiliacs." This may imply he'd be just as grossed out by living humans making out with each other just like the thought of two liches making out with each other is to the average living human. He was explicitly shown, however, only to be repeatedly grossed out by [[ILoveTheDead Tsukiko's necrophiliac advances]] aimed at him, one of which he was rebuffing this way.



* In ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'', a perfectly ordinary bucket in our culture has some... ''dirty'' connotations in [[AllTrollsAreDifferent Troll society.]] On the other hand, their reproduction system involves a centralized mother making each generation from the genetic material of all the previous one, making "one diabolical incestuous slurry" the standard, so they don't understand our taboo of incest.

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* In ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'', a ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'':
** A
perfectly ordinary bucket in our culture has some... ''dirty'' connotations in [[AllTrollsAreDifferent Troll society.]] On the other hand, their reproduction system involves a centralized mother making each generation from the genetic material of all the previous one, making "one diabolical incestuous slurry" the standard, so they don't understand our taboo of incest.



* In ''{{Drowtales}}'', bisexuality and multiple partners is the norm for Drows, while pure heterosexuals like Zala'ess and her hubby Sabrror, and pure homosexuals like Mel'anarch are considered abnormal. In both cases it mostly seems like the drow are puzzled as to why one would restrict their choice of partners to only one gender than any actual prejudice against the orientations.

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* In ''{{Drowtales}}'', bisexuality ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'':
** Bisexuality
and multiple partners is the norm for Drows, while pure heterosexuals like Zala'ess and her hubby Sabrror, and pure homosexuals like Mel'anarch are considered abnormal. In both cases it mostly seems like the drow are puzzled as to why one would restrict their choice of partners to only one gender than any actual prejudice against the orientations.



* The {{imageboard}} [=4chan=], home to all manner of horrific {{NSFW}} material, considers the single most heinous sexual practice to be... ''[[spoiler:consensual sex in the missionary position]]''. Definitely {{Played for Laughs}}. That shit gets even more horrifying when [[spoiler:done for the purpose of reproduction.]] And it's [[MoralEventHorizon ten times worse]] if [[spoiler:they're happily married.]] The gag is most prominent on the /d/ ("alternative hentai") board where there are occasional [[spoiler:"happy sex"]] threads that play on the joke. Scenes of a couple [[spoiler:holding hands]] can make even the kinkiest of /a/nons blush profusely.
* Similarly, [[spoiler: consensual heterosexual sex between spouses]] is occasionally played as the strangest, rarest, most taboo kink ever on {{Kink Meme}}s. Another "strange and unusual" request sometimes found on {{Kink Meme}}s is [[spoiler: gen fic, with no sex or romance at all]]!



* PlayedForLaughs in places like [[ImageBoards 4chan]] where, amongst the depravity and bizarre fetishes that are just business as usual there, things like couples holding hands are treated as sick, depraved acts; the most depraved act of all being consensual, heterosexual sex, in the missionary position, with the lights off, between a HappilyMarried couple, for the sole purpose of procreation.
31st Dec '15 9:38:07 PM KatanaCat
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** Another example is uu, who persistently pesters Dirk to draw filthy hardcore porn for him...of people acting out totally normal, nonsexual romantic actions such as kissing or hugging. ([[spoiler: This is because uu, aka Caliborn, is a Cherub, a race that usually tries to avoid each other except when mating.]]) And then after two pages of this, it's [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] right at the last minute:

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** Another example is uu, who persistently pesters Dirk to draw filthy hardcore porn for him...of people acting out totally normal, nonsexual romantic actions such as kissing or hugging. ([[spoiler: This ([[spoiler:This is because uu, aka Caliborn, is a Cherub, a race that usually tries to avoid each other except when mating.]]) And then after two pages of this, it's [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] right at the last minute:
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