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* The ''Franchise/Ben10'' franchise is no stranger to this trope due to [[LongRunners how long it has been going on]] and how different iterations had some different writers. However, the most divisive instance of this trope comes from [[Recap/Ben102016S5E3AlienXTinction Alien X-tinction]], the final episode of [[WesternAnimation/Ben102016 the reboot]]. It seems to be an IntraFranchiseCrossover, but reboot Ben doesn't just meet Ben Prime, there is a Ben for [[WesternAnimation/Ben10 each]] [[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce of]] [[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien the]] [[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse series]]. One of the writers, Duncan Rouleau, stated that they were ''all'' Ben Prime. However, the episode explicitly states that this is not time travel, merely travel to dimensions that are not necessarily in sync in time. This led to heated debates over which, if ''any'', of the alternate Bens were Ben Prime. [[FlipFlopOfGod Duncan Rouleau would eventually state that none of them were Ben Prime, but rather potential futures for reboot Ben, and thus alternate timelines]], though this also has its own issues.
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* A few years after WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}} was canceled, Greg Weisman confirmed that Lexington was gay. In the show itself, he's just as attracted to female gargoyles as the rest of the trio and competed for Angela's affection in ''Turf.'' WordOfGod is that this was because of him being closeted/not consciously aware yet of his orientation, pursuing Angela just because his brothers were, and he wasn't allowed to even imply his orientation at all since it went against Disney's Standards and Practices of the time.

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* A few years after WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}} was canceled, Greg Weisman confirmed that Lexington was gay. In the show itself, he's just as attracted to female gargoyles as the rest of the trio and competed for Angela's affection in ''Turf.'' WordOfGod is that this was because of him being closeted/not consciously aware yet of his orientation, pursuing Angela just because his brothers were, and he Greg wasn't allowed to even imply his Lex's orientation at all since it went against Disney's Standards and Practices of the time.
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* A few years after WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}} was canceled, Greg Weisman confirmed that Lexington was gay. In the show itself, he's just as attracted to female gargoyles as the rest of the trio and competed for Angela's affection in ''Turf.'' WordOfGod is that this was because of him closeted/not consciously aware yet of his orientation, pursuing Angela just because his brothers were, and he wasn't allowed to even imply his orientation at all since it went against Disney's Standards and Practices of the time.

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* A few years after WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}} was canceled, Greg Weisman confirmed that Lexington was gay. In the show itself, he's just as attracted to female gargoyles as the rest of the trio and competed for Angela's affection in ''Turf.'' WordOfGod is that this was because of him being closeted/not consciously aware yet of his orientation, pursuing Angela just because his brothers were, and he wasn't allowed to even imply his orientation at all since it went against Disney's Standards and Practices of the time.
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* A few years after WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}} was canceled, Greg Weisman confirmed that Lexington was gay. In the show itself, he's just as attracted to female gargoyles as the rest of the trio and competed for Angela's affection in ''Turf.'' WordOfGod is that this was because of him closeted/not consciously aware yet of his orientation, pursuing Angela just because his brothers were, and he wasn't allowed to even imply his orientation at all since it went against Disney's Standards and Practices of the time.
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* On November 18, 2023, Viv [[https://twitter.com/VivziePop/status/1725566557320028525 tweeted out]] that the pilot to WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss is non-canon, citing that it's not functional to the rest of the series. This statement comes after previous episodes indicated that [[BroadStrokes the pilot did happen with some details changing]], such as Blitzo asking if they got "that insurance thing" in ''C.H.E.R.U.B,'' him crashing into Stella's tea party and apologizing for sleeping with Stolas in ''The Circus,'' and, most notably, a shot of the imps getting thrown out the hospital with Eddie in ''Truth Seekers'' when the D.H.O.R.K.S were monitoring footage of I.M.P's previous missions.
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Pretty sure he wasn't directly referring to Sans there. He also said one part of a merchandise and 3D Toriel is canon. Even if he was serious about the tweets, can't really deny that muddies things, especially since he was straightforward about canonicity after the fact.


* Creator/TobyFox, creator of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', has said that Sans is too lazy to date anybody. But Sans said in-game that he's not actually lazy, and it's all but directly stated that he's depressed and overworked. Lampshaded by Toby himself, who then said that nothing he wrote on Twitter is canon.

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* Creator/TobyFox, creator of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', has said that Sans is too lazy to date anybody. But Sans said in-game that he's not actually lazy, and it's all but directly stated that he's depressed and overworked. Lampshaded by Toby himself, who then later said that [[TeasingCreator nothing he wrote on Twitter is canon...after declaring one piece of merchandise and a 3D model of Toriel canon.]]
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** Or the god has become a TrollingCreator.
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* Andy Price, one of the main artists for ''ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW'', once declared that the comics are fully canon according to Creator/{{Hasbro}}. However, the comics themselves conflict with the events of the show on a regular basis, with the show going as far as to show explicitly different events than the comics such as a different origin for the sirens and an appearance from King Sombra evil as ever long after a comic gave him a HeelFaceTurn. Jim Miller, the producer of the show, would later clarify that the show paid absolutely no attention to the comics whatsoever and treated them as ExpandedUniverse at absolute best, explaining why the events of the comics were incompatible with the show despite this claim. The comic writers would eventually declare that the comics were written by Spike to justify this, showing that the comics were {{unreliable|narrator}} retellings of canonical events, which they were apparently [[ArmedWithCanon a bit bitter about]] if [[https://trixiebooru.org/images/3012513 this panel]] is anything to go off of...
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** A closeup of Takua's palm in the film ''Mask of Light'' shows him zapping and "magnetizing" a staff to his hand. As told by the film makers, this was meant to foreshadow that Takua was a special being with hidden innate powers. But according to Farshtey, who was not involved with the first three films, every ''BIONICLE'' character was capable of magnetizing objects to their hands and the scene had no special meaning.

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* ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'': Takashi Iizuka's explanation for the lack of humans in certain games, such as ''VideoGame/SonicForces'', is due to Sonic and his friends living on a WorldOfFunnyAnimals. They sometimes world-hop to a human-populated world whenever they wish. This idea, however, muddles up a lot of what was depicted in previous games. For example, ''[[VideoGame/SonicAdventure Adventure]]'' clearly has Amy living in Station Square (with a NPC even mentioning she has an apartment there), both Knuckles and Tails live nearby Station Square in ''Adventure'', and Shadow's entire backstory was that he was created by humans in ''[[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 Adventure 2]]''. There are no mentions of the characters going between dimensions in-series and multiple games (including ''VideoGame/SonicBattle'' and the two ''Sonic Adventure'' games) heavily imply that they live on Earth. The most damning evidence against this is the fact that ''Adventure'' (where this "split" allegedly dates back to according to internal documents at Creator/{{Sega}}) clearly showed Angel Island and Mystic Ruins being in the human world (which also implies that ''VideoGame/{{Sonic 3|AndKnuckles}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Sonic Advance|Trilogy}}'' took place there too). More recent statements have instead gone with the explanation that [[LionsAndTigersAndHumansOhMy anthropomorphic animals and humans just live]] in separate parts of the Earth (islands and cities, respectively).

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* ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'': Takashi Iizuka's explanation for the lack of humans in certain games, such as ''VideoGame/SonicForces'', is due to Sonic and his friends living on a WorldOfFunnyAnimals. They sometimes world-hop to a human-populated world whenever they wish. This idea, however, muddles up a lot of what was depicted in previous games.games released prior to him making that statement. For example, ''[[VideoGame/SonicAdventure Adventure]]'' clearly has Amy living in Station Square (with a NPC even mentioning she has an apartment there), both Knuckles and Tails live nearby Station Square in ''Adventure'', and Shadow's entire backstory was that he was created by humans in ''[[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 Adventure 2]]''. There are no mentions of the characters going between dimensions in-series and multiple games (including ''VideoGame/SonicBattle'' and the two ''Sonic Adventure'' games) heavily imply that they live on Earth. The most damning evidence against this is the fact that ''Adventure'' (where this "split" allegedly dates back to according to internal documents at Creator/{{Sega}}) clearly showed Angel Island and Mystic Ruins being in the human world (which also implies that ''VideoGame/{{Sonic 3|AndKnuckles}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Sonic Advance|Trilogy}}'' took place there too). More recent statements have instead gone with The franchise would eventually settle on the explanation idea that [[LionsAndTigersAndHumansOhMy anthropomorphic animals and humans just live]] in on separate parts of the Earth (islands and cities, respectively).



* This is directly addressed by the creator of ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'', who would preemptively state before the release of a post-series book that [[https://twitter.com/Radrappy/status/1594274881293910016 the show and said book override]] whatever conflicting information he might have said during any prior interview. He uses the ages of the characters as an example, noting that he doesn't even ''remember'' saying that Sasha was the oldest.

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* This is directly addressed by the creator of ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'', who would preemptively state before the release of a post-series book ''Literature/MarcysJournalAGuidetoAmphibia'' that [[https://twitter.com/Radrappy/status/1594274881293910016 the show and said book override]] whatever conflicting information he might have said during any prior interview. He uses the ages of the characters as an example, noting that he doesn't even ''remember'' saying that Sasha was the oldest.



** The creator, Creator/ButchHartman, insists that "ghosts" are not deceased people, but [[OurSpiritsAreDifferent creatures from the Ghost Zone]] that take on the memories and appearances of dead people. While the show has one throwaway line in this regard, overwhelming in-series evidence establishes that while some ghosts are an example of this, most ghosts are deceased humans.

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** The creator, Creator/ButchHartman, insists that "ghosts" are not deceased people, but [[OurSpiritsAreDifferent creatures from the Ghost Zone]] that take on the memories and appearances of dead people. While the show has does have one throwaway line in this regard, overwhelming in-series evidence establishes that while some ghosts are an example of this, most ghosts really are the deceased humans.humans they depict themselves as.



* The various writers of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' are happy enough to answer fan questions about the show, but they're pretty upfront about the fact that the show is the only real canon -- and anything they say might be overruled by future episodes. In particular, things that Creator/LaurenFaust, the creator, say are often ignored by the series as she stopped being involved with it after season 2. Examples include:

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* The various writers of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' are happy enough to answer fan questions about the show, but they're pretty upfront about the fact that the show is the only real canon -- and anything they say might be overruled by future episodes. In particular, things that Creator/LaurenFaust, the creator, say are often ignored by the series as she stopped being involved with it after season Season 2. Examples include:



** According to Faust, the reason for Luna's [[EarlyInstallmentCharacterDesignDifference season one design]], which is markedly different from her appearance in other episodes, was that she lacked most of her magic at the time. She has said it was an on-the-spot explanation and that the writers could explain it some other way. No writer would try, with the IDW comics randomly using her original design at different points, and the show featuring Luna with little-to-no magic but keeping her redesign and ethereal mane.

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** According to Faust, the reason for Luna's [[EarlyInstallmentCharacterDesignDifference markedly different season one design]], which is markedly different from her appearance in other episodes, where she's depicted as a young child, was that she lacked most of her magic at the time. She has said it was an on-the-spot explanation and that the writers could explain it some other way. No writer writer, be it the show or the comics, would try, with bother to try explaining why Luna looked like this after being purified by the Elements of Harmony: the show would never use the design again, even when Luna was drained of magic in a later episode, while the IDW comics randomly using her original design at different points, would only ever use it when flashing back to Celestia and the show featuring Luna's childhoods. As an extension of this, Lauren Faust has suggested that Luna with little-to-no magic but keeping her redesign is still growing and ethereal mane.is physically a teenager; the series itself treats Luna as a full-grown adult.



** Lauren Faust has suggested that Luna is still growing and is physically a teenager. The series itself treats Luna as a full-grown adult.
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* ''Franchise/{{Metroid}}'': Series producer Yoshio Sakamoto, on [[https://metroiddatabase.com/old_site/features/faq4.php the official Japanese website]] for ''VideoGame/MetroidFusion'', answered a number of questions from players. One of these questioned how Samus was able to use the Ice Beam at the end of the game despite it being said her physiology would reject it due to inheriting the Metroids' cold vulnerability. His response was that absorbing the SA-X restored her original pre-Metroid genetic profile. Two decades later, this was retconned by ''VideoGame/MetroidDread'', where not only does she still have her Metroid DNA and cold vulnerability, but it also serves as a major plot point.

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* ''Franchise/{{Metroid}}'': Series producer Yoshio Sakamoto, on [[https://metroiddatabase.com/old_site/features/faq4.php the official Japanese website]] for ''VideoGame/MetroidFusion'', answered a number of questions from players. fans. One of these player questioned how Samus was able to use the Ice Beam at the end of the game despite it being said her physiology would reject it due to inheriting the Metroids' cold vulnerability. His vulnerability, and his response was that absorbing the SA-X restored her original pre-Metroid previous genetic profile. Two decades later, this was retconned by ''VideoGame/MetroidDread'', where ''VideoGame/MetroidDread'' retcons this, as not only does she still have her Metroid DNA and cold vulnerability, but it also serves as a major plot point.
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* [[WordOfGod Yoshio Sakamoto stated]] that in ''VideoGame/MetroidFusion'' Samus absorbing the SA-X Core-X restored her to how she was before she received Metroid DNA, explaining how she was able to use the Ice Beam despite it being said her physiology would reject it due to inheriting the Metroids' cold vulnerability. This was seemingly ignored by ''VideoGame/MetroidDread'' where she still has her Metroid DNA and cold vulnerability, [[spoiler:the former becoming a major plot point.]]

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* [[WordOfGod ''Franchise/{{Metroid}}'': Series producer Yoshio Sakamoto stated]] that in ''VideoGame/MetroidFusion'' Sakamoto, on [[https://metroiddatabase.com/old_site/features/faq4.php the official Japanese website]] for ''VideoGame/MetroidFusion'', answered a number of questions from players. One of these questioned how Samus absorbing the SA-X Core-X restored her to how she was before she received Metroid DNA, explaining how she was able to use the Ice Beam at the end of the game despite it being said her physiology would reject it due to inheriting the Metroids' cold vulnerability. This His response was seemingly ignored that absorbing the SA-X restored her original pre-Metroid genetic profile. Two decades later, this was retconned by ''VideoGame/MetroidDread'' ''VideoGame/MetroidDread'', where not only does she still has have her Metroid DNA and cold vulnerability, [[spoiler:the former becoming but it also serves as a major plot point.]]
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* Webcomic/SlightlyDamned: The [[https://www.sdamned.com/angels race page for Angels]] claims that they're born like humans. The comic later contradicts this, instead establishing that they hatch from eggs.

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* Webcomic/SlightlyDamned: ''Webcomic/SlightlyDamned'': The [[https://www.sdamned.com/angels race page for Angels]] claims that they're born like humans. The comic later contradicts this, instead establishing that they hatch from eggs.
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* Launch was a recurring character in ''Manga/DragonBall'', but she didn't appear in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''. When asked why, series creator Akira Toriyama claimed to have just forgotten she existed -- but there were a handful of lines in the manga indicating that [[PutOnABus she was written out intentionally]]; he may have forgotten to bring her back afterward but that's not why she left in the first place.

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* Launch was a recurring character in ''Manga/DragonBall'', but she didn't appear in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''.the ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' portion of the manga and mainly made a few filler appearances in the early episodes. When asked why, series creator Akira Toriyama claimed to have just forgotten she existed -- but there were a handful of lines in the manga indicating that [[PutOnABus she was written out intentionally]]; he may have forgotten to bring her back afterward but that's not why she left in the first place.
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* WordOfGod is that ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'' is meant to be a sequel to ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'', with a {{flashback}} in one episode showing the Avengers in their costumes and {{art s|hift}}tyle from ''EMH''. However, this is contradicted by events both show (Comicbook/TheFalcon makes his debut as a hero in ''Assemble'', while he was already active in ''EMH''), and implied (in ''Avengers Assemble'', the characters make a reference to a team of high-schoolers that Nick Fury is training in ''[[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan2012 Ultimate Spider-Man]]'', but two of them, Iron Fist and Luke Cage, are clearly shown as adults and members of Heroes for Hire in ''EMH'').

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* WordOfGod is that ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'' is meant to be a sequel to ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'', with a {{flashback}} in one episode showing the Avengers in their costumes and {{art s|hift}}tyle from ''EMH''. However, this is contradicted by events both show shown (Comicbook/TheFalcon makes his debut as a hero in ''Assemble'', while he was already active in ''EMH''), and implied (in ''Avengers Assemble'', the characters make a reference to a team of high-schoolers that Nick Fury is training in ''[[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan2012 Ultimate Spider-Man]]'', but two of them, Iron Fist and Luke Cage, are clearly shown as adults and members of Heroes for Hire in ''EMH'').
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** The creator, Creator/ButchHartman, insists that "ghosts" are not deceased people, but [[OurSpiritsAreDifferent creatures from the Ghost Zone]] that takes on the memories and appearances of dead people. While the show has one throwaway line in this regard, overwhelming in-series evidence establishes that while some ghosts are an example of this, most ghosts are deceased humans.

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** The creator, Creator/ButchHartman, insists that "ghosts" are not deceased people, but [[OurSpiritsAreDifferent creatures from the Ghost Zone]] that takes take on the memories and appearances of dead people. While the show has one throwaway line in this regard, overwhelming in-series evidence establishes that while some ghosts are an example of this, most ghosts are deceased humans.
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Also, the sequel G5 showed Spike is still alive while Twilight seems gone, so she didn't outlive him. So if the conflict comes down to subjective interpretation as opposed to objective facts, God Does Not Own This World fits better.
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This technically isn't a contradiction... it just means that either Twilight dies from something other than age, or her friends have their lives extended at some point.


** Meghan [=McCarthy=] once stated that "Twilight will not outlive her friends." This is contradicted in the GrandFinale where Twilight has grown to the same stature as Celestia and appears to have become TheAgeless while her friends have visibly aged.

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