History Main / WordOfSaintPaul

19th Jan '17 6:14:00 AM Morgenthaler
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* August Derleth shaped much of the popular understanding of Creator/HPLovecraft's CthulhuMythos, and codified a lot of it. This is [[BrokenBase hotly contested]], as Derleth split the mythos between what was basically good or bad (Elder Gods vs. The Great Old Ones) with the Elder Gods having been added after Lovecraft died. The main conflict is that the Elder Gods tend be fairly benign, while The Great Old Ones try to destroy humanity, often going away from the BlueAndOrangeMorality that makes up the mythos. Derleth's concept of good and evil eventually became less common, with ''TabletopGame/CallOfCthulhu'' removing it from the 6th edition.

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* August Derleth shaped much of the popular understanding of Creator/HPLovecraft's CthulhuMythos, Franchise/CthulhuMythos, and codified a lot of it. This is [[BrokenBase hotly contested]], as Derleth split the mythos between what was basically good or bad (Elder Gods vs. The Great Old Ones) with the Elder Gods having been added after Lovecraft died. The main conflict is that the Elder Gods tend be fairly benign, while The Great Old Ones try to destroy humanity, often going away from the BlueAndOrangeMorality that makes up the mythos. Derleth's concept of good and evil eventually became less common, with ''TabletopGame/CallOfCthulhu'' removing it from the 6th edition.
5th Jan '17 12:28:19 AM narm00
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* Televangelist Wendy Alec provides a literal version of this in her ''Chronicles of Brothers'' novels. These are a very specialised sort of fantasy fiction in which ms Alec represents the Bible story as a sort of sibling rivalry between five brothers, the Sons of God. She sticks very carefully and cautiously to what is "known" of Heaven, Hell and their denizens from the Bible and related religious works - but she cannot help re-interpreting the Fall of Lucifer (the black sheep of the family) with the aid of some serious Word Of Saint Paul, maybe even a little WordOfDante creeping in round the edges. (Other televangelists have denounced her as Ungodly and Satanic for this reason.)

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* Televangelist Wendy Alec provides a literal version of this in her ''Chronicles of Brothers'' novels. These are a very specialised sort of fantasy fiction in which ms Ms Alec represents the Bible story as a sort of sibling rivalry between five brothers, the Sons of God. She sticks very carefully and cautiously to what is "known" of Heaven, Hell and their denizens from the Bible and related religious works - but she cannot help re-interpreting the Fall of Lucifer (the black sheep of the family) with the aid of some serious Word Of Saint Paul, maybe even a little WordOfDante creeping in round the edges. (Other televangelists have denounced her as Ungodly and Satanic for this reason.)



* In ''Series/{{Smallville}}'', several actors have spoken about their own interpretation into the character on stuff the PowersThatBe are quiet about. Tom Welling ([[{{Superman}} Clark Kent]]) has talked about the psychological effects of red kryptonite, Allison Mack ([[PlatonicLifePartners Chloe Sullivan]]) said Chloe is too weak for the character in season two, John Glover ([[MagnificentBastard Lionel Luthor]]) said his character is [[DirtyOldMan supposed to be attracted]] to [[FoeYay Chloe]], and so on.

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* In ''Series/{{Smallville}}'', several actors have spoken about their own interpretation into the character on stuff the PowersThatBe are quiet about. Tom Welling ([[{{Superman}} ([[Franchise/{{Superman}} Clark Kent]]) has talked about the psychological effects of red kryptonite, Allison Mack ([[PlatonicLifePartners Chloe Sullivan]]) said Chloe is too weak for the character in season two, John Glover ([[MagnificentBastard Lionel Luthor]]) said his character is [[DirtyOldMan supposed to be attracted]] to [[FoeYay Chloe]], and so on.



* DarrenCriss, who plays Blaine on ''Series/{{Glee}}'', said in an interview that Blaine's last name is Anderson quite some time before it was ever mentioned on the actual show. Likely it was chosen by the writers before being mentioned.

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* DarrenCriss, Creator/DarrenCriss, who plays Blaine on ''Series/{{Glee}}'', said in an interview that Blaine's last name is Anderson quite some time before it was ever mentioned on the actual show. Likely it was chosen by the writers before being mentioned.



** Producer John Nathan Turner was the source of the phrase "There is no hanky panky aboard the TARDIS". It was even mentioned in a 1984 issue of Time Magazine. This makes the widespread assumption that the Doctor (especially in the classic series) is asexual more than just mere fan speculation. Since Nu Who, however, it's been treated as depending on the incarnation. Nine was very enthusiastic about 51st Century humanity's views on sexuality, Ten was more of a romantic, and Eleven has NoNudityTaboo but does have sex, and Twelve is implied to be demisexual (some originally assumed asexual, but his interactions with Clara, Missy and River disprove that, though it should be noted that on screen nothing sexual has ever been implied related any of the three).

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** Producer John Nathan Turner was the source of the phrase "There is no hanky panky aboard the TARDIS". It was even mentioned in a 1984 issue of Time Magazine. This makes the widespread assumption that the Doctor (especially in the classic series) is asexual more than just mere fan speculation. Since Nu Who, however, it's been treated as depending on the incarnation. Nine was very enthusiastic about 51st Century humanity's views on sexuality, Ten was more of a romantic, and Eleven has had NoNudityTaboo but does did have sex, and Twelve is implied to be demisexual (some originally assumed asexual, but his interactions with Clara, Missy and River disprove that, though it should be noted that on screen nothing sexual has ever been implied related to any of the three).


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** This got to a point during the eighties and nineties where some of the TV series' writers were pushing, effectively, for a viewpoint saying the Doctor had ''never'' had sex, despite the existence of his granddaughter Susan (which they got around by saying she'd been adopted). This never got on screen, but it did find its way into the Expanded Universe (e.g. Marc Platt's Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures, which fed into the rest of the line, or Eric Saward's short story "Birth of a Renegade").
3rd Jan '17 7:30:15 PM Sharysa
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* In an interview with Creator/EllenDegeneres, Creator/OscarIsaac mentioned that he was playing a "romance" as Poe Dameron in ''Film/TheForceAwakens''. Many fans took this as confirmation that the chemistry between Poe and Finn was intentional.

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* In an interview with Creator/EllenDegeneres, Creator/OscarIsaac mentioned that he was playing a "romance" as Poe Dameron in ''Film/TheForceAwakens''. Many fans took this as confirmation that the chemistry between Poe and Finn was intentional. John Boyega has also said that he was playing Finn's scenes with Poe as romance, so the only thing left is for the director to openly say that Finn and Poe are gay.
22nd Dec '16 6:51:03 PM MyFinalEdits
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' Producer John Nathan Turner was the source of the phrase "There is no hanky panky aboard the TARDIS". It was even mentioned in a 1984 issue of Time Magazine. This makes the widespread assumption that the Doctor (especially in the classic series) is asexual more than just mere fan speculation. Since Nu Who, however, it's been treated as depending on the incarnation. Nine was very enthusiastic about 51st Century humanity's views on sexuality, Ten was more of a romantic, and Eleven has NoNudityTaboo but does have sex, and Twelve is implied to be demisexual (some originally assumed asexual, but his interactions with Clara, Missy and River disprove that, though it should be noted that on screen nothing sexual has ever been implied related any of the three).
** Related to the above point, the very notion of the Doctor falling in love with anyone is hotly disputed among fans. Word of Saint Paul has not helped. Examples include David Tennant and others involved in the production of Series 2 confirming years after the fact that the storyline between Rose and the Tenth Doctor was a love story, and Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman stating outright that a romance existed between the Twelfth Doctor and Clara Oswald (with Coleman upping the ante at numerous convention appearances by affirming that during a sequence in "Mummy on the Orient Express" in which Clara apparently utters the phrase "I love you" to her boyfriend, Danny, she actually addressed it to the Doctor); confusingly for fans, Capaldi had also been quoted - sometimes within the same week - as saying the opposite regarding the relationship.

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Producer John Nathan Turner was the source of the phrase "There is no hanky panky aboard the TARDIS". It was even mentioned in a 1984 issue of Time Magazine. This makes the widespread assumption that the Doctor (especially in the classic series) is asexual more than just mere fan speculation. Since Nu Who, however, it's been treated as depending on the incarnation. Nine was very enthusiastic about 51st Century humanity's views on sexuality, Ten was more of a romantic, and Eleven has NoNudityTaboo but does have sex, and Twelve is implied to be demisexual (some originally assumed asexual, but his interactions with Clara, Missy and River disprove that, though it should be noted that on screen nothing sexual has ever been implied related any of the three).
** Related to the above point, the The very notion of the Doctor falling in love with anyone is hotly disputed among fans. Word of Saint Paul has not helped. Examples include David Tennant and others involved in the production of Series 2 confirming years after the fact that the storyline between Rose and the Tenth Doctor was a love story, and Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman stating outright that a romance existed between the Twelfth Doctor and Clara Oswald (with Coleman upping the ante at numerous convention appearances by affirming that during a sequence in "Mummy on the Orient Express" in which Clara apparently utters the phrase "I love you" to her boyfriend, Danny, she actually addressed it to the Doctor); confusingly for fans, Capaldi had also been quoted - sometimes within the same week - as saying the opposite regarding the relationship.
22nd Dec '16 12:47:24 PM skidoo23
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' Producer John Nathan Turner was the source of the phrase "There is no hanky panky aboard the TARDIS". It was even mentioned in a 1984 issue of Time Magazine. This makes the widespread assumption that the Doctor (especially in the classic series) is asexual more than just mere fan speculation. Since Nu Who, however, it's been treated as depending on the incarnation. Nine was very enthusiastic about 51st Century humanity's views on sexuality, Ten was more of a romantic, and Eleven has NoNudityTaboo but does have sex, and Twelve is implied to be demisexual (some originally assumed asexual, but his interactions with River disprove that).

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' Producer John Nathan Turner was the source of the phrase "There is no hanky panky aboard the TARDIS". It was even mentioned in a 1984 issue of Time Magazine. This makes the widespread assumption that the Doctor (especially in the classic series) is asexual more than just mere fan speculation. Since Nu Who, however, it's been treated as depending on the incarnation. Nine was very enthusiastic about 51st Century humanity's views on sexuality, Ten was more of a romantic, and Eleven has NoNudityTaboo but does have sex, and Twelve is implied to be demisexual (some originally assumed asexual, but his interactions with Clara, Missy and River disprove that). that, though it should be noted that on screen nothing sexual has ever been implied related any of the three).
** Related to the above point, the very notion of the Doctor falling in love with anyone is hotly disputed among fans. Word of Saint Paul has not helped. Examples include David Tennant and others involved in the production of Series 2 confirming years after the fact that the storyline between Rose and the Tenth Doctor was a love story, and Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman stating outright that a romance existed between the Twelfth Doctor and Clara Oswald (with Coleman upping the ante at numerous convention appearances by affirming that during a sequence in "Mummy on the Orient Express" in which Clara apparently utters the phrase "I love you" to her boyfriend, Danny, she actually addressed it to the Doctor); confusingly for fans, Capaldi had also been quoted - sometimes within the same week - as saying the opposite regarding the relationship.
** According to actress Alex Kingston, for a long time only she and showrunner Steven Moffat knew River Song's true origin.
21st Dec '16 10:11:36 PM Pichu-kun
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* According to [=GoGo=]'s voice actress from ''Disney/BigHero6'', her given name is "Ethel".

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* According to [=GoGo=]'s [=GoGo=] Tomago's voice actress from ''Disney/BigHero6'', her given name is "Ethel".
21st Dec '16 10:10:14 PM Pichu-kun
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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'': According to his English voice actor, Eric Stuart, Brock's surname is Harrison.

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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'': ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'':
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According to his English voice actor, Eric Stuart, Brock's surname is Harrison.Harrison.
** The original English voice of Ash, Veronica Taylor, is a believer in the theory that Giovanni is Ash's father. Giovanni is considered by fans to be one of the main contenders for being Ash's father (alongside Professor Oak and Silver).



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* According to [=GoGo=]'s voice actress from ''Disney/BigHero6'', her given name is "Ethel".
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18th Dec '16 6:38:12 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* ''Franchise/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': Tiffany Grant, the voice actress for Asuka, once mentioned that she believed that Asuka's line at the end of ''End of Evangelion'' (the widely debated "I feel sick" line), was morning sickness. Fans debate on whether Asuka was pregnant to this very day.

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* ''Franchise/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': Tiffany Grant, the English dub voice actress for Asuka, once mentioned that she believed that Asuka's line at the end of ''End of Evangelion'' (the widely debated "I feel sick" line), was morning sickness. Fans debate on whether Asuka was pregnant to this very day.
28th Oct '16 1:45:15 PM nombretomado
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* Russell Johnson has assured us that the Professor on ''GilligansIsland'' was intentionally meant to be asexual as the producers of the show didn't want any mention of sex.

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* Russell Johnson has assured us that the Professor on ''GilligansIsland'' ''Series/GilligansIsland'' was intentionally meant to be asexual as the producers of the show didn't want any mention of sex.
14th Oct '16 3:46:18 PM nombretomado
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* Creator/TroyBaker, the voice actor for Kanji from ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' stated that he was told by the voice director to act as if Kanji were gay, and has admitted that he personally believes the character is indeed homosexual. This has led to a number of people, including ExtraCredits, taking that as canon, even though the official WordOfGod is that Kanji's sexuality is [[AmbiguouslyGay deliberately ambiguous.]]

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* Creator/TroyBaker, the voice actor for Kanji from ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' stated that he was told by the voice director to act as if Kanji were gay, and has admitted that he personally believes the character is indeed homosexual. This has led to a number of people, including ExtraCredits, ''WebAnimation/ExtraCredits'', taking that as canon, even though the official WordOfGod is that Kanji's sexuality is [[AmbiguouslyGay deliberately ambiguous.]]
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