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15th Oct '17 12:50:14 PM valar55
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* The AnthropicPrinciple - Pretty much every story has some fundamental elements which, unrealistic or improbable they may be, are vital for the story to function in the first place, so like them or not you don't really have a choice but to suck them up if you want to enjoy the story. Sure, it might be unlikely that the GreatDetective would just happen to be around to solve the incredibly byzantine murder that someone's committed close by, but if he or she wasn't there you wouldn't be able to enjoy watching him or her solve the mystery in the first place.

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* The AnthropicPrinciple - Pretty much every story has some fundamental elements which, unrealistic or improbable as they may be, are vital for the story to function in the first place, so so, like them or not not, you don't really have a choice but to suck them up if you want to enjoy the story. Sure, it might be unlikely that the GreatDetective would just happen to be around to solve the incredibly byzantine murder that someone's committed close by, but if he or she wasn't there you wouldn't be able to enjoy watching him or her solve the mystery in the first place.
5th Jan '17 7:18:40 AM DoctorNemesis
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The MST3KMantra is an exhortation to reinstate your Willing Suspension Of Disbelief even if it's been broken, because "it's just a show". Similarly, BellisariosMaxim calls the audience to reinstate their [=WSOD=] by ''ignoring'' whatever {{Plot Hole}}s or other inconsistencies broke it, or that those things really ''aren't'' as important as the audience member(s) may think. The AnthropicPrinciple is also of relevance here; some genres may simply have a NecessaryWeasel which, while unlikely or unrealistic, is vital for the story to actually take place, or AcceptableBreaksFromReality which the audience is willing to overlook for the story to function. For example: [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim why doesn't the villain just shoot]] Film/JamesBond? Because if he did, there wouldn't be a James Bond movie for you to watch in the first place.

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The MST3KMantra is an exhortation to reinstate your Willing Suspension Of Disbelief even if it's been broken, because "it's just a show". Similarly, BellisariosMaxim calls the audience to reinstate their [=WSOD=] by ''ignoring'' whatever {{Plot Hole}}s or other inconsistencies broke it, or that those things really ''aren't'' as important as the audience member(s) may think. The AnthropicPrinciple is also of relevance here; some genres may simply have a NecessaryWeasel which, while unlikely or unrealistic, is vital for the story to actually take place, or AcceptableBreaksFromReality which the audience is willing to overlook for the story to function. For example: [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim why doesn't the villain just shoot]] Film/JamesBond? Because if he did, there wouldn't be a James Bond movie for you to watch in the first place.\n


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* The AnthropicPrinciple - Pretty much every story has some fundamental elements which, unrealistic or improbable they may be, are vital for the story to function in the first place, so like them or not you don't really have a choice but to suck them up if you want to enjoy the story. Sure, it might be unlikely that the GreatDetective would just happen to be around to solve the incredibly byzantine murder that someone's committed close by, but if he or she wasn't there you wouldn't be able to enjoy watching him or her solve the mystery in the first place.


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* NecessaryWeasel: When the audience knows that the trope is unlikely / impossible / unrealistic, but is willing to accept it because it's just become part of the genre. Sure, FasterThanLightTravel is impossible, but if it means that SpaceOpera can take us to some creatively interesting parts of the universe quicker than several thousand human lifespans, we're willing to suck it up and go along with it.
5th Jan '17 6:56:25 AM DoctorNemesis
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The MST3KMantra is an exhortation to reinstate your Willing Suspension Of Disbelief even if it's been broken, because "it's just a show". Similarly, BellisariosMaxim calls the audience to reinstate their [=WSOD=] by ''ignoring'' whatever {{Plot Hole}}s or other inconsistencies broke it, or that those things really ''aren't'' as important as the audience member(s) may think. The AnthropicPrinciple is also of relevance here; some genres may simply have NecessaryWeasels which, while unlikely or unrealistic, are vital for the story to actually take place or AcceptableBreaksFromReality which the audience is willing to overlook for the story to function. For example: [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim why doesn't the villain just shoot]] Film/JamesBond? Because if he did, there wouldn't be a James Bond movie for you to watch in the first place.

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The MST3KMantra is an exhortation to reinstate your Willing Suspension Of Disbelief even if it's been broken, because "it's just a show". Similarly, BellisariosMaxim calls the audience to reinstate their [=WSOD=] by ''ignoring'' whatever {{Plot Hole}}s or other inconsistencies broke it, or that those things really ''aren't'' as important as the audience member(s) may think. The AnthropicPrinciple is also of relevance here; some genres may simply have NecessaryWeasels a NecessaryWeasel which, while unlikely or unrealistic, are is vital for the story to actually take place place, or AcceptableBreaksFromReality which the audience is willing to overlook for the story to function. For example: [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim why doesn't the villain just shoot]] Film/JamesBond? Because if he did, there wouldn't be a James Bond movie for you to watch in the first place.
5th Jan '17 6:56:00 AM DoctorNemesis
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The MST3KMantra is an exhortation to reinstate your Willing Suspension Of Disbelief even if it's been broken, because "it's just a show". Similarly, BellisariosMaxim calls the audience to reinstate their [=WSOD=] by ''ignoring'' whatever {{Plot Hole}}s or other inconsistencies broke it, or that those things really ''aren't'' as important as the audience member(s) may think.

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The MST3KMantra is an exhortation to reinstate your Willing Suspension Of Disbelief even if it's been broken, because "it's just a show". Similarly, BellisariosMaxim calls the audience to reinstate their [=WSOD=] by ''ignoring'' whatever {{Plot Hole}}s or other inconsistencies broke it, or that those things really ''aren't'' as important as the audience member(s) may think. \n The AnthropicPrinciple is also of relevance here; some genres may simply have NecessaryWeasels which, while unlikely or unrealistic, are vital for the story to actually take place or AcceptableBreaksFromReality which the audience is willing to overlook for the story to function. For example: [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim why doesn't the villain just shoot]] Film/JamesBond? Because if he did, there wouldn't be a James Bond movie for you to watch in the first place.
1st Oct '16 3:12:26 AM __Vano
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An author's work, in other words, does not ''have'' to be realistic, only believable and internally consistent (see MagicAIsMagicA). When the author pushes an audience beyond what they're willing to accept, the work fails in the eyes of that particular audience. As far as science fiction is concerned, viewers are usually willing to go along with [[TechnoBabble creative explanations]] which is why [[PhysicsGoof people don't criticize your wormhole travel system]] or [[AppliedPhlebotinum how a shrinking potion doesn't violate the laws of matter conservation]], but even in the more fantastical genres, suspension of disbelief can be broken when a work breaks its own established laws or asks the audience to put up with too many things that come off as contrived.

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An author's work, in other words, does not ''have'' to be realistic, only believable and [[MagicAIsMagicA internally consistent (see MagicAIsMagicA). consistent]] (even the last requirement [[BellisariosMaxim can be relieved to some extent]]). When the author pushes an audience beyond what they're willing to accept, the work fails in the eyes of [[BrokenBase that particular audience.audience]]. As far as science fiction is concerned, viewers are usually willing to go along with [[TechnoBabble creative explanations]] which is why [[PhysicsGoof people don't criticize your wormhole travel system]] or [[AppliedPhlebotinum how a shrinking potion doesn't violate the laws of matter conservation]], but even in the more fantastical genres, suspension of disbelief can be broken when a work breaks its own established laws or asks the audience to put up with too many things that come off as contrived.
18th Sep '16 6:43:21 AM Gosicrystal
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The MST3KMantra is an exhortation to reinstate your Willing Suspension Of Disbelief even if it's been broken, because "it's just a show". Similarly, BellisariosMaxim calls the audience to reinstate their WSoD by ''ignoring'' whatever {{Plot Hole}}s or other inconsistencies broke it, or that those things really ''aren't'' as important as the audience member(s) may think.

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The MST3KMantra is an exhortation to reinstate your Willing Suspension Of Disbelief even if it's been broken, because "it's just a show". Similarly, BellisariosMaxim calls the audience to reinstate their WSoD [=WSOD=] by ''ignoring'' whatever {{Plot Hole}}s or other inconsistencies broke it, or that those things really ''aren't'' as important as the audience member(s) may think.
16th Aug '16 7:01:49 AM MsChibi
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As always, the various [[RuleOfIndex Rules]] override nearly all other considerations. When the audience's disbelief, which was suspended during the show, gets reinstated some time afterward, what you get is FridgeLogic. When the means of "fixing" the PlotHole just end up making it worse, that's a phenomenon known as the VoodooShark.

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As always, the various [[RuleOfIndex Rules]] override nearly all other considerations. When the audience's disbelief, which was suspended during the show, gets reinstated some time afterward, what you get is FridgeLogic. When the means of "fixing" the PlotHole just end up making it worse, worse and/or opening up a ''new'' one, that's a phenomenon known as the VoodooShark.
8th Aug '16 7:03:09 PM MsChibi
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As always, the various [[RuleOfIndex Rules]] override nearly all other considerations. When the audience's disbelief, which was suspended during the show, gets reinstated some time afterward, what you get is FridgeLogic.

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As always, the various [[RuleOfIndex Rules]] override nearly all other considerations. When the audience's disbelief, which was suspended during the show, gets reinstated some time afterward, what you get is FridgeLogic.
FridgeLogic. When the means of "fixing" the PlotHole just end up making it worse, that's a phenomenon known as the VoodooShark.
20th Jul '16 9:53:29 AM MsChibi
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18th Jul '16 8:07:43 AM MsChibi
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The MST3KMantra is an exhortation to reinstate your Willing Suspension Of Disbelief even if it's been broken, because "it's just a show".

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The MST3KMantra is an exhortation to reinstate your Willing Suspension Of Disbelief even if it's been broken, because "it's just a show". Similarly, BellisariosMaxim calls the audience to reinstate their WSoD by ''ignoring'' whatever {{Plot Hole}}s or other inconsistencies broke it, or that those things really ''aren't'' as important as the audience member(s) may think.
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