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23rd Sep '16 4:14:43 AM Morgenthaler
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* Lieutenant George in ''Series/{{Blackadder}} Goes Forth'', despite having spent three years in the trenches of WorldWarI, is still mindlessly optimistic about giving the Germans a good bashing, and readily believes all war propaganda to be true. The grim reality of his situation (in particular, the event of "going over the top" he's been looking forward to for all the series) dawns on him when he realises that he's the only one of his class group left, all the rest having been killed. [[spoiler:He goes over the top shortly afterwards in a BolivianArmyEnding.]] His response to realizing all his friends are dead is "Well, I guess I'm the only one left... oh.... I mean, if it wasn't for the excitement of going over the top tomorrow, I might be a bit down!" Subverted when he says to Blackadder: "Captain, I'm... scared." Up until that point, it's not clear whether the whole thing was intended to be more of the show's black humor, or if it was actually supposed to be horrifying. That line cleared it right up. Then, it goes FromBadToWorse.

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* Lieutenant George in ''Series/{{Blackadder}} Goes Forth'', despite having spent three years in the trenches of WorldWarI, UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, is still mindlessly optimistic about giving the Germans a good bashing, and readily believes all war propaganda to be true. The grim reality of his situation (in particular, the event of "going over the top" he's been looking forward to for all the series) dawns on him when he realises that he's the only one of his class group left, all the rest having been killed. [[spoiler:He goes over the top shortly afterwards in a BolivianArmyEnding.]] His response to realizing all his friends are dead is "Well, I guess I'm the only one left... oh.... I mean, if it wasn't for the excitement of going over the top tomorrow, I might be a bit down!" Subverted when he says to Blackadder: "Captain, I'm... scared." Up until that point, it's not clear whether the whole thing was intended to be more of the show's black humor, or if it was actually supposed to be horrifying. That line cleared it right up. Then, it goes FromBadToWorse.
20th Sep '16 2:35:29 AM Tron80
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** Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}: Pre-Crisis Kara Zor-El was an exceptionally innocent, trusting teenager. Her enemies often exploited her naivete and tried to earn her trust or seduce her so they could manipulate her and kill her or her cousin. Eventually she stopped being so gullible, but she kept believing that people are mostly naturally good-hearted. Post-Crisis Supergirl is less innocent (excepting some versions such like ''ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl'' Kara who was fooled by Comicbook/LexLuthor) but she still stands by his ideals and always tries to do the right thing and be an hero, not matter how dark her world is or what bad things happen to her.
8th Sep '16 10:08:52 PM zealots
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* An interesting inversion of the DarkerAndEdgier creep described above is brought to us by ''ComicBook/XMen'' villain Exodus. A literal KnightTemplar who was turned into a SealedBadassInACan 800 years ago and revived in the modern day, Exodus still holds true to the noble values of the knighthood and has no greater ambition than to protect and defend his people, even [[http://cdn.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_27305/subcat_115248/IMAG0859.JPG dressing like a classic Silver Age hero]]. Unfortunately, he also holds to the uncompromising black-and-white thinking of his era, turning him into an AntiVillain who clashes with the X-Men because he is unable to admit that not all mutants are good and not all humans are bad.

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* An interesting inversion of the DarkerAndEdgier creep described above is brought to us by ''ComicBook/XMen'' villain Exodus. A literal KnightTemplar who was turned into a SealedBadassInACan 800 years ago and revived in the modern day, Exodus still holds true to the noble values of the knighthood and has no greater ambition than to protect and defend his people, even [[http://cdn.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140901032741/http://cdn.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_27305/subcat_115248/IMAG0859.JPG dressing like a classic Silver Age hero]]. Unfortunately, he also holds to the uncompromising black-and-white thinking of his era, turning him into an AntiVillain who clashes with the X-Men because he is unable to admit that not all mutants are good and not all humans are bad.
14th Aug '16 4:08:43 PM Orbiting
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* 'Webcomic/{{Nebula}}''

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14th Aug '16 4:07:27 PM Orbiting
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* Played with in ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' with John Egbert. He's a wildly idealistic kid playing a game that's already [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt destroyed the Earth and rendering it more or less uninhabitable]], and being constantly accosted by literal {{Troll}}s who continue to call out the fact that the kids fail to win the game and nothing they do will change that. This doesn't seem to deter John in the slightest.

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with in ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' with John Egbert. He's a wildly idealistic kid playing a game that's already [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt destroyed the Earth and rendering it more or less uninhabitable]], and being constantly accosted by literal {{Troll}}s who continue to call out the fact that the kids fail to win the game and nothing they do will change that. This doesn't seem to deter John in the slightest.


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* 'Webcomic/{{Nebula}}''
** Earth keeps trying to befriend her hostile neighbors no matter how harshly they act towards her, and instead of being wary at the clear signs that there's something [[NotHimself horribly wrong with Sun]] thinks that he's just going through a rough patch and needs some friendly support.
** Pluto thinks that the rest of the solar system's AllOfTheOtherReindeer attitude towards him and their (understandable) fear of the HumanoidAbomination Black Hole is all a big misunderstanding and that they can all be friends.
12th Aug '16 8:14:22 PM nombretomado
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* ''Literature/ForWantOfANail'' features a nation full of politicians like this in the Confederacy of North America, a nation formed after the British Empire restructured their management of their colonies following the AmericanRevolution.

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* ''Literature/ForWantOfANail'' features a nation full of politicians like this in the Confederacy of North America, a nation formed after the British Empire restructured their management of their colonies following the AmericanRevolution.UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution.
28th Jul '16 10:42:29 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** It's implied that, while he's naturally inclined that way anyway, retaining his idealism is also an intentional strategic choice on Coulson's part. Many of the entities he deals with are either terrified and confused by their new powers or genre savvy antagonists who have plans within plans to deal with swat teams and superspy tricks. The former find his cheerful "it's OK, your power is cool, think of all the good it could do" attitude comforting, and it puts the latter on the back foot. The simplistic morality involved also puts him in the good graces of the norse gods, which is a matter of great concern to SHIELD.

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** It's implied that, while he's naturally inclined that way anyway, retaining his idealism is also an intentional strategic choice on Coulson's part. Many of the entities he deals with are either terrified and confused by their new powers or genre savvy antagonists who have plans within plans to deal with swat teams and superspy tricks. The former find his cheerful "it's OK, your power is cool, think of all the good it could do" attitude comforting, and it puts the latter on the back foot. The simplistic morality involved also puts him in the good graces of the norse gods, which is a matter of great concern to SHIELD.



** Deconstructed in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsDreamDropDistance'', where [[spoiler: [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy the villains depend on Sora's idealism to lead him into a trap]]. [[GrandTheftMe Sora nearly gets his body taken over by the villain of the piece]]. [[DeconReconSwitch Double subverted]] when [[TheLancer Riku]] descends into Sora's heart and saves him, proving once again that Sora's [[ThePowerOfFriendship friends are]] [[TrueCompanions his power]]]].

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** Deconstructed in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsDreamDropDistance'', where [[spoiler: [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy the villains depend on Sora's idealism to lead him into a trap]].trap. [[GrandTheftMe Sora nearly gets his body taken over by the villain of the piece]]. [[DeconReconSwitch Double subverted]] when [[TheLancer Riku]] descends into Sora's heart and saves him, proving once again that Sora's [[ThePowerOfFriendship friends are]] [[TrueCompanions his power]]]].
25th Jun '16 8:31:09 PM siberia82
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* While Charles in ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' isn't exactly naive, his idealism is accentuated by the fact that everyone else seems to have a far more pessimistic approach to mutant-human relations. It's suggested that this is at least partly because he hasn't faced persecution in the same way. It sets up a nice contrast with his portrayal in the previous films, where he remains idealistic, but is a lot more cautious about it now that he's had personal experience.

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** ''Film/XMenFirstClass'':
While Charles in ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' isn't exactly naive, naïve, his idealism is accentuated by the fact that everyone else seems to have a far more pessimistic approach to mutant-human relations. It's suggested that this is at least partly because he hasn't faced persecution in the same way. It sets up a nice contrast with his portrayal in the previous films, where he remains idealistic, but is a lot more cautious about it now that he's had personal experience.experience.
** ''Film/XMenApocalypse'': Xavier has regained most of his cheery optimism from ''First Class'', and WordOfGod even says that he has [[http://collider.com/x-men-apocalypse-news-things-to-know/ too much hope]] at the beginning of the story. By the end of the movie, he becomes TheIdealist, i.e. he is no longer "wide-eyed," but he doesn't give up hope for peaceful coexistence between mutants and humans.
5th Jun '16 1:18:06 AM damus2300
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* Eustace Osgrey of ''Literature/TalesOfDunkAndEgg'' truly believes Daemon Blackfyre's cause was just and that his fellow rebels are heroes, no matter how much this has cost him.
5th Jun '16 12:59:08 AM damus2300
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** Brienne of Tarth realized long ago that since no KnightInShiningArmor will sweep her off her feet, then she will be one. She quickly learns knighthood ain't what it's cracked up to be either.
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