History Main / WideEyedidealist

28th Apr '16 6:02:18 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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Compare TheIdealist, BeingGoodSucks, ThePollyanna, the LoveFreak, and TheIngenue. If there are entire civilizations of Wide-Eyed Idealists waiting to be slaughtered, see also WeHaveBecomeComplacent and SugarApocalypse. Contrast the GrumpyBear, the cynic in an idealistic setting. See TurnTheOtherCheek and TheFarmerAndTheViper. [[IThoughtItMeant Not to be confused]] with [[GoodEyesEvilEyes using literal wide eyes to show that a character is idealistic]].

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Compare TheIdealist, BeingGoodSucks, ThePollyanna, the NaiveEverygirl, the LoveFreak, and TheIngenue. If there are entire civilizations of Wide-Eyed Idealists waiting to be slaughtered, see also WeHaveBecomeComplacent and SugarApocalypse. Contrast the GrumpyBear, the cynic in an idealistic setting. See TurnTheOtherCheek and TheFarmerAndTheViper. [[IThoughtItMeant Not to be confused]] with [[GoodEyesEvilEyes using literal wide eyes to show that a character is idealistic]].
10th Apr '16 9:06:38 PM WillBGood
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** Quentyn Martell has the mind set of a heroic fantasy, and see's himself as TheHero who will succeed. But he is in fact unskilled to the task given to him. He was sent to Meereen to marry Daenerys, but he is unable to woo her, as he just isn't manly enough. His next plan was to try to tame her dragons thinking it would impress her, but he ends up getting burnt to crisp for his foolishness.

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** Quentyn Martell has the mind set of a heroic fantasy, and see's sees himself as TheHero who will succeed. But he is in fact unskilled to the task given to him. He was sent to Meereen to marry Daenerys, but he is unable to woo her, as he just isn't manly enough. His next plan was to try to tame her dragons thinking it would impress her, but he ends up getting burnt to crisp for his foolishness.
8th Mar '16 3:06:28 AM WhatRayDid
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** It's implied that, while he's naturally inclined that way anyway, retaining his idealism is also an intentional strategic choice on Coulson's part. Many of the entities he deals with are either terrified and confused by their new powers or genre savvy antagonists who have plans within plans to deal with swat teams and superspy tricks. The former find his cheerful "it's OK, your power is cool, think of all the good it could do" attitude comforting, and it puts the latter on the back foot. The simplistic morality involved also puts him in the good graces of the norse gods, which is a matter of great concern to SHIELD.
6th Mar '16 11:04:00 AM nombretomado
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* Phil Coulson of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' and the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse is a very idealistic man who believes that people are fundamentally ''good''. His belief in heroes is seen as [[GoodIsOldFashioned slightly old-fashioned]] (his ''favorite'' hero being CaptainAmerica, who is definitely an idealist), but it's implied that this fundamental faith in human decency is why he's described as Nick Fury's "one good eye" [[spoiler: and why Fury is willing to go to such lengths to resurrect him]]. He's rather like the TokenGoodTeammate for the rest of SHIELD and, in an interesting example of PlayingWithATrope, his idealism seems to be highly valued by the more cynical agents he works for and with.

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* Phil Coulson of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' and the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse is a very idealistic man who believes that people are fundamentally ''good''. His belief in heroes is seen as [[GoodIsOldFashioned slightly old-fashioned]] (his ''favorite'' hero being CaptainAmerica, ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, who is definitely an idealist), but it's implied that this fundamental faith in human decency is why he's described as Nick Fury's "one good eye" [[spoiler: and why Fury is willing to go to such lengths to resurrect him]]. He's rather like the TokenGoodTeammate for the rest of SHIELD and, in an interesting example of PlayingWithATrope, his idealism seems to be highly valued by the more cynical agents he works for and with.
29th Feb '16 11:56:35 AM WillBGood
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* Renate Richter in ''Film/IronSky'' thinks that all [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Hitler]] wanted was peace under his gentle rule. It's clear that she's been brainwashed by the Moon Nazis, and the film starts with her doing plenty of brainwashing of her own of young Nazi children, showing them a 10-minute version of Creator/CharlieChaplin's ''Film/TheGreatDictator''. Her idea of romance is to be genetically compatible with an Aryan man to produce perfect children. After arriving to Earth with her "fiané" Klaus Adler (who has no such ideals and merely wants to conquer the world), she helps the President's re-election campaign by writing inspiring speeches straight out of Hitler's handbook (with gems like "we raise our hand to one nation"). She tries to convince James Washington (a black male model who was "albinized" by Renate's MadScientist father) of the Nazis' good intentions by showing him ''The Great Dictator'', not realizing that it's the full 2-hour version. Her illusion finally breaks after seeing the film and a disastrous encounter with some skinheads spray-painting her "symbol of peace" everywhere.

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* Renate Richter in ''Film/IronSky'' thinks that all [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Hitler]] wanted was peace under his gentle rule. It's clear that she's been brainwashed by the Moon Nazis, and the film starts with her doing plenty of brainwashing of her own of young Nazi children, showing them a 10-minute version of Creator/CharlieChaplin's ''Film/TheGreatDictator''. Her idea of romance is to be genetically compatible with an Aryan man to produce perfect children. After arriving to Earth with her "fiané" "fiancé" Klaus Adler (who has no such ideals and merely wants to conquer the world), she helps the President's re-election campaign by writing inspiring speeches straight out of Hitler's handbook (with gems like "we raise our hand to one nation"). She tries to convince James Washington (a black male model who was "albinized" by Renate's MadScientist father) of the Nazis' good intentions by showing him ''The Great Dictator'', not realizing that it's the full 2-hour version. Her illusion finally breaks after seeing the film and a disastrous encounter with some skinheads spray-painting her "symbol of peace" everywhere.
6th Feb '16 5:05:07 PM Vios
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** Aerie from the ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'' series, as becomes apparent if you put her in a party with [[CoolOldGuy Keldorn]], [[PerkyGoth Haer'Dalis]] or [[KnightInSourArmor Jaheira]].

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** Aerie from the ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'' ''Franchise/BaldursGate'' series, as becomes apparent if you put her in a party with [[CoolOldGuy Keldorn]], [[PerkyGoth Haer'Dalis]] or [[KnightInSourArmor Jaheira]].
2nd Feb '16 9:23:56 PM Karxrida
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* The ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts'' series plays with this trope, ultimately subverting it: [[TheHero Sora]] is so idealistic that villains often take advantage of his [[ChronicHeroSyndrome do-gooder tendencies]] and manipulate him in various ways. The villains all insist that the protagonists are Wide-Eyed Idealists who should just give in and admit [[CrapsaccharineWorld that the world is nothing but darkness at its heart]]. A notable example is in KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories, when Sora is manipulated into [[spoiler: erasing his own memory.]] Ultimately, his idealism and [[ThePowerOfFriendship his bonds with friends]] protect him.

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* The ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts'' series plays with this trope, ultimately subverting it: [[TheHero Sora]] is so idealistic that villains often take advantage of his [[ChronicHeroSyndrome do-gooder tendencies]] and manipulate him in various ways. The villains all insist that the protagonists are Wide-Eyed Idealists who should just give in and admit [[CrapsaccharineWorld that the world is nothing but darkness at its heart]]. A notable example is in KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories, ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories'', when Sora is manipulated into [[spoiler: erasing his own memory.]] Ultimately, his idealism and [[ThePowerOfFriendship his bonds with friends]] protect him.
29th Jan '16 12:29:42 PM zealots
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* An interesting inversion of the DarkerAndEdgier creep described above is brought to us by ''ComicBook/XMen'' villain Exodus. A literal KnightTemplar who was turned into a SealedBadassInACan 800 years ago and revived in the modern day, Exodus still holds true to the noble values of the knighthood and has no greater ambition than to protect and defend his people, even [[http://cdn.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_27305/subcat_115248/IMAG0859.JPG dressing like a classic Silver Age hero]]. Unfortunately, he also holds to the uncompromising black-and-white thinking of his era, turning him into an AntiVillain who clashes with the X-Men because he is unable to admit that not all mutants are good and not all humans are bad.
23rd Jan '16 8:28:39 AM tomwright
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* ''WebVideo/{{Vigilant}}'': Somewhat subverted in that Wayne realizes the city is evil and needs a hero. However, Wayne believes that the vigilantes are the good guys, and is shocked from his idealism when [[spoiler: V kills the man who killed her parents instead of turning him in to the police.]]
19th Jan '16 5:11:48 PM TastySauce
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[[caption-width-right:350:[[UnusualEuphemism ...And a guy trying to make himself taller.]] ]]

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* ''Manga/AxisPowersHetalia'': [[LargeHam Ame]][[LoveFreak rica]] is pegged as one of these by Fanon. Though, considering [[{{Keet}} his]] [[ManChild nature]], he could very well be one of these in {{Canon}}.

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* ''Manga/AxisPowersHetalia'': ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'': [[LargeHam Ame]][[LoveFreak rica]] is pegged as one of these by Fanon. Though, considering [[{{Keet}} his]] [[ManChild nature]], he could very well be one of these in {{Canon}}.



* [[Manga/RurouniKenshin Rurouni Kenshin Himura]] is a good example of this trope. Some might consider him IncorruptiblePurePureness, but [[SuperpoweredEvilSide old]] [[DarkMessiah habits]] die hard... Except his intro speech at the end of the first chapter goes, "no, swordsmanship is an art of killing. Kaoru-dono believes a sweet, naive lie. But if this one had a wish... it would be that her sweet lie would become the truth of this world." Kenshin's WalkingTheEarth with ObfuscatingStupidity routine involves some serious ideals, but despite avoiding his battle expression most of the time he's not too wide-eyed. He's got the world-weary thing going, but values Kaoru as a WideEyedIdealist. Some of the stupidity probably isn't fake. The line is impossible to find, as is common with CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass types. His backstory involves a bit of this, despite all his childhood trauma--it caused him to wind up a sworn assassin in a civil war.

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* [[Manga/RurouniKenshin Rurouni Kenshin Himura]] is a good example of this trope. Some might consider him IncorruptiblePurePureness, but [[SuperpoweredEvilSide old]] [[DarkMessiah habits]] die hard... Except his intro speech at the end of the first chapter goes, "no, swordsmanship is an art of killing. Kaoru-dono believes a sweet, naive lie. But if this one had a wish... it would be that her sweet lie would become the truth of this world." Kenshin's WalkingTheEarth with ObfuscatingStupidity routine involves some serious ideals, but despite avoiding his battle expression most of the time he's not too wide-eyed. He's got the world-weary thing going, but values Kaoru as a WideEyedIdealist.Wide Eyed Idealist. Some of the stupidity probably isn't fake. The line is impossible to find, as is common with CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass types. His backstory involves a bit of this, despite all his childhood trauma--it caused him to wind up a sworn assassin in a civil war.



* ''Manga/ShoukokuNoAltair'': This is 17-year-old pacifist pasha Mahmut's FatalFlaw at the start of the story, since while he's very clever, he has almost zero experience of the outside world. This leads to him being demoted, and spending months travelling the continent trying to gain more wisdom. However, even a year or two later his idealism still shows.



** Reg Shoe is another Morporkian WideEyedIdealist. In his case, he actually ''was'' killed as a result, as shown in ''Discworld/NightWatch'', but that [[OurZombiesAreDifferent hasn't dampened his enthusiasm any]].

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** Reg Shoe is another Morporkian WideEyedIdealist.Wide Eyed Idealist. In his case, he actually ''was'' killed as a result, as shown in ''Discworld/NightWatch'', but that [[OurZombiesAreDifferent hasn't dampened his enthusiasm any]].
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