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28th Oct '16 4:22:41 PM nombretomado
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* ''Manga/GetterRobo'': Musashi Tomoe in the original manga combined this trope with WrongGenreSavvy. After meeting Ryoma and co. for first time he insists on becoming a [[HumongousMecha Getter Robot]] pilot. When he is said he is not strong, sturdy and intelligent (or crazy) enough to pilot Getter (a task which is ''very'' taxing for both body and mind), he replies he has got the most important skill to become a mecha pilot: [[HotBlooded hot-bloodedness]]. Ryoma and Hayato wondered if he was serious. Apparently nobody told him that ''Manga/GetterRobo'' is a CosmicHorrorStory and GoNagai and Creator/KenIshikawa HumongousMecha mangas (''Anime/MazingerZ'', ''Manga/GetterRobo'', ''Anime/KotetsuJeeg'') [[UnbuiltTrope are way darker]] than [[LighterAndSofter the idealistic fare of later series]] that the genre would be stereotyped with.

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* ''Manga/GetterRobo'': Musashi Tomoe in the original manga combined this trope with WrongGenreSavvy. After meeting Ryoma and co. for first time he insists on becoming a [[HumongousMecha Getter Robot]] pilot. When he is said he is not strong, sturdy and intelligent (or crazy) enough to pilot Getter (a task which is ''very'' taxing for both body and mind), he replies he has got the most important skill to become a mecha pilot: [[HotBlooded hot-bloodedness]]. Ryoma and Hayato wondered if he was serious. Apparently nobody told him that ''Manga/GetterRobo'' is a CosmicHorrorStory and GoNagai Creator/GoNagai and Creator/KenIshikawa HumongousMecha mangas (''Anime/MazingerZ'', ''Manga/GetterRobo'', ''Anime/KotetsuJeeg'') [[UnbuiltTrope are way darker]] than [[LighterAndSofter the idealistic fare of later series]] that the genre would be stereotyped with.
17th Oct '16 4:49:29 PM nombretomado
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* Poor Sigurd from ''FireEmblemJugdral''. He charges into bandit territory to rescue his childhood friend, falls in love and marries a beautiful maiden, and some time later charges back into the fray to rescue another friend. Unfortunately, Augustria is ''way'' more political than Verdane and Sigurd's actions aren't seen as quite so heroic. [[FromBadToWorse And that's just the tip of the iceberg]].

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* Poor Sigurd from ''FireEmblemJugdral''.''VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral''. He charges into bandit territory to rescue his childhood friend, falls in love and marries a beautiful maiden, and some time later charges back into the fray to rescue another friend. Unfortunately, Augustria is ''way'' more political than Verdane and Sigurd's actions aren't seen as quite so heroic. [[FromBadToWorse And that's just the tip of the iceberg]].
17th Oct '16 2:59:14 PM siberia82
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* ''Film/XMen'':

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10th Oct '16 10:21:40 AM Morgenthaler
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* Dorden, TheMedic of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}: GauntsGhosts'' has aspects of this, in trying to adhere to ThouShaltNotKill and preventing Gaunt from carrying out necessary ShootTheDog despite their WorldHalfEmpty.

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* Dorden, TheMedic of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}: GauntsGhosts'' Literature/GauntsGhosts'' has aspects of this, in trying to adhere to ThouShaltNotKill and preventing Gaunt from carrying out necessary ShootTheDog despite their WorldHalfEmpty.
23rd Sep '16 4:14:43 AM Morgenthaler
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* Lieutenant George in ''Series/{{Blackadder}} Goes Forth'', despite having spent three years in the trenches of WorldWarI, is still mindlessly optimistic about giving the Germans a good bashing, and readily believes all war propaganda to be true. The grim reality of his situation (in particular, the event of "going over the top" he's been looking forward to for all the series) dawns on him when he realises that he's the only one of his class group left, all the rest having been killed. [[spoiler:He goes over the top shortly afterwards in a BolivianArmyEnding.]] His response to realizing all his friends are dead is "Well, I guess I'm the only one left... oh.... I mean, if it wasn't for the excitement of going over the top tomorrow, I might be a bit down!" Subverted when he says to Blackadder: "Captain, I'm... scared." Up until that point, it's not clear whether the whole thing was intended to be more of the show's black humor, or if it was actually supposed to be horrifying. That line cleared it right up. Then, it goes FromBadToWorse.

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* Lieutenant George in ''Series/{{Blackadder}} Goes Forth'', despite having spent three years in the trenches of WorldWarI, UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, is still mindlessly optimistic about giving the Germans a good bashing, and readily believes all war propaganda to be true. The grim reality of his situation (in particular, the event of "going over the top" he's been looking forward to for all the series) dawns on him when he realises that he's the only one of his class group left, all the rest having been killed. [[spoiler:He goes over the top shortly afterwards in a BolivianArmyEnding.]] His response to realizing all his friends are dead is "Well, I guess I'm the only one left... oh.... I mean, if it wasn't for the excitement of going over the top tomorrow, I might be a bit down!" Subverted when he says to Blackadder: "Captain, I'm... scared." Up until that point, it's not clear whether the whole thing was intended to be more of the show's black humor, or if it was actually supposed to be horrifying. That line cleared it right up. Then, it goes FromBadToWorse.
20th Sep '16 2:35:29 AM Tron80
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** Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}: Pre-Crisis Kara Zor-El was an exceptionally innocent, trusting teenager. Her enemies often exploited her naivete and tried to earn her trust or seduce her so they could manipulate her and kill her or her cousin. Eventually she stopped being so gullible, but she kept believing that people are mostly naturally good-hearted. Post-Crisis Supergirl is less innocent (excepting some versions such like ''ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl'' Kara who was fooled by Comicbook/LexLuthor) but she still stands by his ideals and always tries to do the right thing and be an hero, not matter how dark her world is or what bad things happen to her.
8th Sep '16 10:08:52 PM zealots
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* An interesting inversion of the DarkerAndEdgier creep described above is brought to us by ''ComicBook/XMen'' villain Exodus. A literal KnightTemplar who was turned into a SealedBadassInACan 800 years ago and revived in the modern day, Exodus still holds true to the noble values of the knighthood and has no greater ambition than to protect and defend his people, even [[http://cdn.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_27305/subcat_115248/IMAG0859.JPG dressing like a classic Silver Age hero]]. Unfortunately, he also holds to the uncompromising black-and-white thinking of his era, turning him into an AntiVillain who clashes with the X-Men because he is unable to admit that not all mutants are good and not all humans are bad.

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* An interesting inversion of the DarkerAndEdgier creep described above is brought to us by ''ComicBook/XMen'' villain Exodus. A literal KnightTemplar who was turned into a SealedBadassInACan 800 years ago and revived in the modern day, Exodus still holds true to the noble values of the knighthood and has no greater ambition than to protect and defend his people, even [[http://cdn.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20140901032741/http://cdn.comicartfans.com/Images/Category_27305/subcat_115248/IMAG0859.JPG dressing like a classic Silver Age hero]]. Unfortunately, he also holds to the uncompromising black-and-white thinking of his era, turning him into an AntiVillain who clashes with the X-Men because he is unable to admit that not all mutants are good and not all humans are bad.
14th Aug '16 4:08:43 PM Orbiting
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* 'Webcomic/{{Nebula}}''

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14th Aug '16 4:07:27 PM Orbiting
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* Played with in ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' with John Egbert. He's a wildly idealistic kid playing a game that's already [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt destroyed the Earth and rendering it more or less uninhabitable]], and being constantly accosted by literal {{Troll}}s who continue to call out the fact that the kids fail to win the game and nothing they do will change that. This doesn't seem to deter John in the slightest.

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with in ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' with John Egbert. He's a wildly idealistic kid playing a game that's already [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt destroyed the Earth and rendering it more or less uninhabitable]], and being constantly accosted by literal {{Troll}}s who continue to call out the fact that the kids fail to win the game and nothing they do will change that. This doesn't seem to deter John in the slightest.


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* 'Webcomic/{{Nebula}}''
** Earth keeps trying to befriend her hostile neighbors no matter how harshly they act towards her, and instead of being wary at the clear signs that there's something [[NotHimself horribly wrong with Sun]] thinks that he's just going through a rough patch and needs some friendly support.
** Pluto thinks that the rest of the solar system's AllOfTheOtherReindeer attitude towards him and their (understandable) fear of the HumanoidAbomination Black Hole is all a big misunderstanding and that they can all be friends.
12th Aug '16 8:14:22 PM nombretomado
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* ''Literature/ForWantOfANail'' features a nation full of politicians like this in the Confederacy of North America, a nation formed after the British Empire restructured their management of their colonies following the AmericanRevolution.

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* ''Literature/ForWantOfANail'' features a nation full of politicians like this in the Confederacy of North America, a nation formed after the British Empire restructured their management of their colonies following the AmericanRevolution.UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution.
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