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19th Mar '17 10:59:18 AM Vir
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* ''SamuraiJack'' had the Lava Monster, who was explicitly ''cursed'' with immortality. Originally a great viking warrior, his people were slaughtered by Aku, and, as a final act of cruelty, Aku decided not to kill the viking, but instead trapped him inside an unbreakable crystal, to prevent him from ever rejoining his people in Valhalla. Over the millenia, the viking learned to shape the rock and magma around him into a new body, and constructed a maze of traps and hazards for the sole purpose of drawing in a warrior powerful enough to defeat and kill him in battle.

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* ''SamuraiJack'' ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'' had the Lava Monster, who was explicitly ''cursed'' with immortality. Originally a great viking warrior, his people were slaughtered by Aku, and, as a final act of cruelty, Aku decided not to kill the viking, but instead trapped him inside an unbreakable crystal, to prevent him from ever rejoining his people in Valhalla. Over the millenia, the viking learned to shape the rock and magma around him into a new body, and constructed a maze of traps and hazards for the sole purpose of drawing in a warrior powerful enough to defeat and kill him in battle.
6th Mar '17 3:44:53 PM margdean56
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* This is the fate of Jack (of the Lantern). He was a evil man who tricked the Devil into being trapped in a tree by putting a holy symbol on the trunk whilst the Devil was in the tree. Jack would only allow the Devil down if he promised never to bring Jack into Hell. The Devil agreed. However, since Jack couldn't enter Heaven (remember, he was evil), he had no where to go after he died. The Devil gave him an ember of Hell to light his way, which Jack kept in a hollowed-out turnip. (Since pumpkins were more plentiful and easier to carve, they became the vessel in which the ember was kept.) Jack is now cursed to wander forever, carrying his lantern, a Jack-o-Lantern.

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* This is the fate of Jack (of the Lantern). He was a evil man who tricked the Devil into being trapped in a tree by putting a holy symbol on the trunk whilst the Devil was in the tree. Jack would only allow the Devil down if he promised never to bring Jack into Hell. The Devil agreed. However, since Jack couldn't enter Heaven (remember, he was evil), he had no where nowhere to go after he died. The Devil gave him an ember of Hell to light his way, which Jack kept in a hollowed-out turnip. (Since pumpkins were more plentiful and easier to carve, they became the vessel in which the ember was kept.) Jack is now cursed to wander forever, carrying his lantern, a Jack-o-Lantern.
25th Feb '17 8:32:03 PM Drgonzo
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** The Space Marines avert this in a way: It's stated in the ''Horus Heresy'' novels that they are ''functionally'' immortal, meaning they will never die of age or infirmity. However, every Astartes has already accepted that they will die in battle. The question is raised at least once of what the marines would do with themselves if the Great Crusade ever ended, but events made the whole question academic anyway.
25th Feb '17 8:26:21 PM Drgonzo
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** Speaking of the Emperor, he might have a harsh word or two about his immortality. [[AndIMustScream If he was able to talk, that is...]]
12th Jan '17 6:16:31 PM MeteoXavier
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** It's been shown that concepts of an eternal suffering in Hell are not actually canon to Christian theology. Originally, it was supposed to mean that being denied heaven meant that your soul was destroyed (and likely reduced to the soul's primary energy which theoretically brings it up to the possibility of being reincarnated). Elements of what Christians teach as the typical eternal damnation and brimstone are said to have come from other things like Dante's Inferno and John Milton's Paradise Lost as a means for churches to control people through fear. This would make far more sense than an omnipowerful, all-loving God creating a space that even it somehow is not present in and having his children suffer infinitely for finite punishments.
12th Jan '17 6:04:24 PM MeteoXavier
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* It's important to note that because all fiction as we know it is based on the foundations of our reality, and we've never seen anything that ever lasted "forever" in the truest sense of the word, anyone who finds this trope and related ones like AndIMustScream or FateWorseThanDeath can take some heart, that based on laws and principals of logic, it's pretty much impossible to be immortal.
** Becoming an immortal being is itself a logical paradox. You can't be born of cellular material and not have those cells die off. To be truly immortal, your cells would most likely need to change into energy, which means everything you are changes into energy (which, in a way, is both what all of our earthly fates are anyway as well as what is the most primary wellspring for being born in the first place). Even through magic means, all it does is change part of the cellular structure so that it's simply exponentially more resilient to normal wear and tear. Magic, as cast by imperfect beings with physical (and therefore inherently imperfect, even those recognized as Gods) properties, will be to some degree imperfect and able to be defeated or reversed.
** And then the other thing to consider is that the universe is in a constant state of change as well as having an overwhelming degree of it undiscovered. How can you determine a state of true immortality cannot be destroyed by anything in the universe if so much of the universe is unknown? Maybe a jump through a black hole or a quasar bath would cure it. Either way, this immortality-granting power is a product of the universe, and if even the universe is subject to entropy and death (and eventual rebirth) then everything subject to it is as well. Every character listed on this page and its brethren pages are still going to die someday. Sure, they'll still suffer upwards of millions of times more than most people ever will, but they still have an out to look forward to. One way or another.
4th Jan '17 12:16:51 AM SilentStranger
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** [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1520 SCP-1520]] is a 16th century Buddhist monk who attempted to die undergoing a self-mummification process to achieve Buddhahood, but failed and [[AndIMustScream has been trapped in a shrivelled, mummified corpse for over four centuries]].

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** [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1520 SCP-1520]] is a 16th century Buddhist monk who attempted to die undergoing a self-mummification process to achieve Buddhahood, but failed and [[AndIMustScream has been trapped in a shrivelled, mummified corpse for over four centuries]]. Unusual for this trope, the monk doesnt ''mind'' exactly, aside from some mild disappointment that he has not achieved enlightenment. He's communicated exactly once with the Foundation, belaying a message meant for a former lover (which was delivered to said lovers descendant under the guise of an unearthed family document) presumably as part of shedding himself of any remaining wordly attachments, and has made no further attempts at communication.


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* ''SamuraiJack'' had the Lava Monster, who was explicitly ''cursed'' with immortality. Originally a great viking warrior, his people were slaughtered by Aku, and, as a final act of cruelty, Aku decided not to kill the viking, but instead trapped him inside an unbreakable crystal, to prevent him from ever rejoining his people in Valhalla. Over the millenia, the viking learned to shape the rock and magma around him into a new body, and constructed a maze of traps and hazards for the sole purpose of drawing in a warrior powerful enough to defeat and kill him in battle.
29th Nov '16 5:44:07 AM TheCuza
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** [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1440 SCP-1440]] is a kind old man who [[ChessWithDeath beat Death at cards]], and cannot die. Even worse, he cannot even talk to people, as death kills everyone who goes near him, leaving him to wander the earth, alone. [[spoiler:He does at least get a happy ending in]] [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/quiet-days Quiet Days.]]

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** [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1440 SCP-1440]] is a kind old man who [[ChessWithDeath beat Death at cards]], and cannot die. Even worse, he cannot even talk He ''might'' be able to people, as death kills everyone who goes near him, leaving enjoy it if Death wasn't such a SoreLoser and cursed him to be a WalkingWasteland who kills/destroys all humans and things made by humans that get close to him, meaning he can do nothing but wander the earth, alone. Earth alone forever. [[spoiler:He does at least get a happy ending in]] in [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/quiet-days Quiet Days.]]Days]]]].
25th Nov '16 11:39:05 AM ACW
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* Christian theology holds that human beings are inherently immortal, but whether this will be pleasant or agony depends on the life you lead in this mortal coil. Heaven is very much LivingForeverIsAwesome, while Hell is very much this trope. The descriptions of Hell are: [[AndIMustScream "They will be tormented day and night, forever and ever," and "Their worm will not die, nor will their fire be extinguished."]] It is a place full of despair and solitude, with no hope of any improvement, and the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus further implies that it is possible to see Heaven from Hell-see it, but never reach it. Christian theology also makes a point that life ''on Earth'' is a huge pain in the ass too, so eternal life on Earth wouldn't be very fun either. And Orthodox Sacred Tradition states it clear that if The Lord hasn't allowed people to die, they would be [[CompleteMonster demons]], not simply HumansAreFlawed that we are now.

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* Christian theology holds that human beings are inherently immortal, but whether this will be pleasant or agony depends on the life you lead in this mortal coil. Heaven is very much LivingForeverIsAwesome, while Hell is very much this trope. The descriptions of Hell are: [[AndIMustScream "They will be tormented day and night, forever and ever," and "Their worm will not die, nor will their fire be extinguished."]] It is a place full of despair and solitude, with no hope of any improvement, and the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus further implies that it is possible to see Heaven from Hell-see it, but never reach it. Christian theology also makes a point that life ''on Earth'' is a huge pain in the ass too, so eternal life on Earth wouldn't be very fun either. And Orthodox Sacred Tradition states it clear that if The Lord hasn't allowed people to die, they would be [[CompleteMonster demons]], demons, not simply HumansAreFlawed that we are now.
24th Nov '16 3:14:14 PM WillBGood
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* Christian theology holds that human beings are inherently immortal, but whether this will be pleasant or agony depends on the life you lead in this mortal coil. Heaven is very much LivingForeverIsAwesome, while Hell is very much this trope. The descriptions of Hell are: [[AndIMustScream "They will be tormented day and night, forever and ever," and "Their worm will not die, nor will their fire be extinguished."]] It is a place full of despair and solitude, with no hope of any improvement, and the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus further implies that it is possible to see Heaven from Hell-see it, but never reach it. Christian theology also makes a point that life ''on Earth'' is a huge pain in the ass too, so eternal life on Earth wouldn't be very fun either. And Orthodox Sacred Tradition states it clear that if The Lord hasn't allowed people to die, they would be [[Complete Monster demons]], not simply HumansAreFlawed that we are now.

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* Christian theology holds that human beings are inherently immortal, but whether this will be pleasant or agony depends on the life you lead in this mortal coil. Heaven is very much LivingForeverIsAwesome, while Hell is very much this trope. The descriptions of Hell are: [[AndIMustScream "They will be tormented day and night, forever and ever," and "Their worm will not die, nor will their fire be extinguished."]] It is a place full of despair and solitude, with no hope of any improvement, and the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus further implies that it is possible to see Heaven from Hell-see it, but never reach it. Christian theology also makes a point that life ''on Earth'' is a huge pain in the ass too, so eternal life on Earth wouldn't be very fun either. And Orthodox Sacred Tradition states it clear that if The Lord hasn't allowed people to die, they would be [[Complete Monster [[CompleteMonster demons]], not simply HumansAreFlawed that we are now.
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