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14th Aug '17 9:30:09 AM Korodzik
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** The episode [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E1TheCutieMapPart1 "The Cutie Map"]], in which the villain rules over a {{dystopia}}n village of brainwashed ponies stripped of their individuality in the name of "equality", was welcomed enthusiastically by some right-wing and conservative viewers who interpreted it as a criticism of [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad political correctness]]. To the point where a certain far-right author, partly for trolling purposes, encouraged his blog's readers to vote the episode into that year's UsefulNotes/HugoAward as part of a campaign against the [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment (alleged or not)]] left-wing bias of the awards.
12th Aug '17 4:38:34 AM ClintEastwood
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** At the end of "The War Games", the Time Lords ask the Doctor to choose his own face from a bunch of drawings projected on a screen. One (the one dismissed by the Doctor as 'too old') appears to be Karl Marx. Draw your own conclusions.
** The general line in fan analysis is that "The Web Planet" is a RedScare allegory, because it's about the Zarbi workers rising up against their Menoptera masters. But it's a ''really'' big reach - there's no absolutely no indication the Zarbi are any more intelligent than farm animals, and even though the monster in the story [[OurMonstersAreWeird has the power to control gold]] it doesn't work in any way analogous to any kind of economic system, which seems like it'd be a no-brainer for an anti-communism story. Maybe it's just a PlanetaryRomance {{Xenofiction}} runaround with pretty butterfly people fighting the ant people?
** It's well known "The Sunmakers" is about [[AuthorTract the evils of taxation]] and written by a Thatcher supporter, but, since the actual story presents the issue more as 'untouchable mega-corporations and corrupt bankers have bought out the government and are draining money out of the poorest to boost their own profits while keeping the population constantly afraid via media to distract them', modern critics tend to read it as a satire on the evils of privatization, or Occupy-style anti-capitalist. Privatization was just around the corner in 1977, and the Occupy movement was 35 years away. Is it more likely that Creator/RobertHolmes was secretly hard-left and able to see the future, or that he was ramping up the setting's systemic injustice to the point he accidentally [[BrokenAesop broke his own right-wing aesop]]?
** In the Eighties, the showrunner purposefully tried to avoid political subtext as much as possible for a variety of reasons (lack of desire to offend, lack of desire to make allegorical stories about the real world in favor of interacting with the series' own history as a work of fiction, and several other reasons). This caused some BrokenAesop moments, like when the series bought back the highly political Silurians in an apolitical action story where nothing indicates either side is anything more than just a nasty lizard creature - and of course the politics ended up in there anyway. This restriction ended when the producer stopped caring, freeing the then-script editor to make clearly and transparently political stories about BBC politics ("The Greatest Show in the Galaxy"), Margaret Thatcher ("The Happiness Patrol") and lesbianism ("Survival").

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** At the end of "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E7TheWarGames The War Games", Games]]", the Time Lords ask the Doctor to choose his own face from a bunch of drawings projected on a screen. One (the one dismissed by the Doctor as 'too old') appears to be Karl Marx. Draw your own conclusions.
** The general line in fan analysis is that "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E5TheWebPlanet The Web Planet" Planet]]" is a RedScare allegory, because it's about the Zarbi workers rising up against their Menoptera masters. But it's a ''really'' big reach - there's no absolutely no indication the Zarbi are any more intelligent than farm animals, and even though the monster in the story [[OurMonstersAreWeird has the power to control gold]] it doesn't work in any way analogous to any kind of economic system, which seems like it'd be a no-brainer for an anti-communism story. Maybe it's just a PlanetaryRomance {{Xenofiction}} runaround with pretty butterfly people fighting the ant people?
** It's well known "The Sunmakers" "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS15E4TheSunMakers The Sun Makers]]" is about [[AuthorTract the evils of taxation]] and written by a Thatcher supporter, but, since the actual story presents the issue more as 'untouchable mega-corporations and corrupt bankers have bought out the government and are draining money out of the poorest to boost their own profits while keeping the population constantly afraid via media to distract them', modern critics tend to read it as a satire on the evils of privatization, or Occupy-style anti-capitalist. Privatization was just around the corner in 1977, and the Occupy movement was 35 years away. Is it more likely that Creator/RobertHolmes was secretly hard-left and able to see the future, or that he was ramping up the setting's systemic injustice to the point he accidentally [[BrokenAesop broke his own right-wing aesop]]?
** In the Eighties, the showrunner script editor Eric Saward purposefully tried to avoid political subtext as much as possible for a variety of reasons (lack of desire to offend, lack of desire to make allegorical stories about the real world in favor of interacting with the series' own history as a work of fiction, and several other reasons). This caused some BrokenAesop moments, like when the series bought back the highly political Silurians in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS21E1WarriorsOfTheDeep an apolitical action story where nothing indicates either side is anything more than just a nasty lizard creature creature]] - and of course the politics ended up in there anyway. This restriction ended when the producer Creator/JohnNathanTurner stopped caring, freeing the then-script next script editor Andrew Cartmel to make clearly and transparently political stories about BBC politics ("The ("[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E4TheGreatestShowInTheGalaxy The Greatest Show in the Galaxy"), Margaret Thatcher ("The Galaxy]]"), UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher ("[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E2TheHappinessPatrol The Happiness Patrol") Patrol]]") and lesbianism ("Survival").("[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E4Survival Survival]]").



** Mark Gatiss is often criticized for reactionary racist/sexist/warmongering {{Family Unfriendly Aesop}}s in his ''Who'' stories, but his real-world political leanings are known as left-wing. A lot of it may be down to bad luck - "The Unquiet Dead" (often read as an allegory for how war refugees should be treated with suspicion and can never assimilate into society) happened to come out at a time when asylum seekers were featured heavily in the news. "Cold War" accidentally portrays mutually assured destruction as good, which might have gone unnoticed had the episode not synced up with the death of Margaret Thatcher. "The Crimson Horror" has Diana Rigg playing the episode's EvilIsSexy NobleDemon star, who (just before it aired) went in the papers saying uninformed [[StrawFeminist things]] about feminists.
** This concept is made fun of in "Blink":

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** Mark Gatiss Creator/MarkGatiss is often criticized for reactionary racist/sexist/warmongering {{Family Unfriendly Aesop}}s in his ''Who'' stories, but his real-world political leanings are known as left-wing. A lot of it may be down to bad luck - "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E3TheUnquietDead The Unquiet Dead" Dead]]" (often read as an allegory for how war refugees should be treated with suspicion and can never assimilate into society) happened to come out at a time when asylum seekers were featured heavily in the news. "Cold War" "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E8ColdWar Cold War]]" accidentally portrays mutually assured destruction as good, which might have gone unnoticed had the episode not synced up with the death of Margaret Thatcher. "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E11TheCrimsonHorror The Crimson Horror" Horror]]" has Diana Rigg Creator/DianaRigg playing the episode's EvilIsSexy NobleDemon star, who (just before it aired) went in the papers saying uninformed [[StrawFeminist things]] about feminists.
** This concept is made fun of in "Blink":"[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E10Blink Blink]]":



** "Turn Left", an episode about Donna indirectly causing a racist, fascist government to take over Britain by turning ''right'' at a junction.
** The ''Daily Mirror'' published an article claiming that in "The Beast Below", the Doctor's line "And once every five years, everyone chooses to forget what they've learned. Democracy in action." should be read as a call to the public to re-elect UsefulNotes/GordonBrown's Labour government. If so, it didn't work.
** The central dilemma in "Kill the Moon" was accused of being "an allegory for the abortion debate" by some North American viewers. Notably, viewers in Europe didn't notice such an angle to the problem and were baffled by the [[VocalMinority fixation of a part of the American viewership]] on this accusation. While debates about the morality of abortion occur on both sides of the Atlantic, the American ones generally tend to be more heated and divided, which might have contributed to such a reading of a narrative element in the episode.

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** "Turn Left", "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E11TurnLeft Turn Left]]", an episode about Donna indirectly causing a racist, fascist government to take over Britain by turning ''right'' at a junction.
** The ''Daily Mirror'' published an article claiming that in "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E2TheBeastBelow The Beast Below", Below]]", the Doctor's line "And once every five years, everyone chooses to forget what they've learned. Democracy in action." should be read as a call to the public to re-elect UsefulNotes/GordonBrown's Labour government. If so, it didn't work.
** The central dilemma in "Kill "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E7KillTheMoon Kill the Moon" Moon]]" was accused of being "an allegory for the abortion debate" by some North American viewers. Notably, viewers in Europe didn't notice such an angle to the problem and were baffled by the [[VocalMinority fixation of a part of the American viewership]] on this accusation. While debates about the morality of abortion occur on both sides of the Atlantic, the American ones generally tend to be more heated and divided, which might have contributed to such a reading of a narrative element in the episode.
11th Aug '17 6:40:57 AM nngnna
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**In Israel where the series was hugely popular, there is a persistent claim that Gargamel is an antisemitic Caricature, and that the smurfs on the other hand represent blue-blooded purity. (not helped by smurfette making an HeelFaceTurn by getting blond hair and a smaller nose).


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9th Aug '17 5:18:58 PM DarkPhoenix94
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*** It's also been [[http://screenrant.com/agents-shield-framework-simmons-hydra-nazis/ interpreted as metacommentary]] on Marvel Comics' ongoing ''Secret Empire'' storyline, which has been extremely controversial for having Captain America join forces with HYDRA (Captain America was conceived as an anti-fascist hero by two Jewish comic book creators, and Magneto not raising an objection (Magneto himself is Jewish and has a backstory deeply tied to his being a holocaust survivor), with the justification from comics writer Nick Spencer for this being that HYDRA aren't really Nazis. ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' [[https://twitter.com/AgentsofSHIELD/status/849451227620548608 obviously disagrees.]]

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*** It's also been [[http://screenrant.com/agents-shield-framework-simmons-hydra-nazis/ interpreted as metacommentary]] on Marvel Comics' ongoing ''Secret Empire'' storyline, which has been extremely controversial for having Captain America join forces with HYDRA (Captain America was conceived as an anti-fascist hero by two Jewish comic book creators, creators), and Magneto not raising an objection (Magneto himself is Jewish and Jewish, has a backstory deeply tied to his being a holocaust survivor), survivor, and a historical violent antipathy, attempting to kill the Red Skull on several occasions), with the justification from comics writer Nick Spencer for this being that HYDRA aren't really Nazis. ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' [[https://twitter.com/AgentsofSHIELD/status/849451227620548608 obviously disagrees.]]



* Much of the internet, including some professional critics, stated that Series/LukeCage was a commentary on police brutality towards black men. Some of the show's creators even encouraged this sort of thinking, doing things like having Luke wear a black hoodie (which has become symbolic of the Trayvon Martin shooting). The actual show doesn't really say much about the matter; it focuses more on gang violence and Luke only comes into conflict with police after being framed for a crime (and even then, they don't use excessive force).

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* Much of the internet, including some professional critics, stated that Series/LukeCage was a commentary on police brutality towards black men. Some of the show's creators even encouraged this sort of thinking, doing things like having Luke wear a black hoodie (which has become symbolic of the Trayvon Martin shooting). shooting), and remarking that it was time for a bulletproof black superhero. News outlets like Britain's Guardian had articles like 'A Bulletproof Black Man: Luke Cage is the superhero America needs now.' The actual show doesn't really say much about the matter; it focuses more on gang violence and Luke only comes into conflict with police after being framed for a crime (and even then, they don't use excessive force).
9th Aug '17 5:13:00 PM DarkPhoenix94
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*** It's also been [[http://screenrant.com/agents-shield-framework-simmons-hydra-nazis/ interpreted as metacommentary]] on Marvel Comics' ongoing ''Secret Empire'' storyline, which has been extremely controversial for having Captain America and Magneto join forces with HYDRA (Captain America was conceived as an anti-fascist hero by two Jewish comic book creators, and Magneto himself is Jewish and has a backstory deeply tied to his being a holocaust survivor), with the justification from comics writer Nick Spencer for this being that HYDRA aren't really Nazis. ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' [[https://twitter.com/AgentsofSHIELD/status/849451227620548608 obviously disagrees.]]

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*** It's also been [[http://screenrant.com/agents-shield-framework-simmons-hydra-nazis/ interpreted as metacommentary]] on Marvel Comics' ongoing ''Secret Empire'' storyline, which has been extremely controversial for having Captain America and Magneto join forces with HYDRA (Captain America was conceived as an anti-fascist hero by two Jewish comic book creators, and Magneto not raising an objection (Magneto himself is Jewish and has a backstory deeply tied to his being a holocaust survivor), with the justification from comics writer Nick Spencer for this being that HYDRA aren't really Nazis. ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' [[https://twitter.com/AgentsofSHIELD/status/849451227620548608 obviously disagrees.]]]]
**** It is hinted in one of the X-Men books that Magneto's promised someone that he won't interfere in HYDRA's America. Exactly why is unclear, but at the very least, he isn't working for them.
29th Jul '17 2:56:19 AM Piterpicher
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* In the commentary for ''Dog Days'', BillPlympton tells of how the French view his Dog Trilogy as a metaphor for George Bush, even though that wasn't his intent, nor does he even like to make political cartoons.

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* In the commentary for ''Dog Days'', BillPlympton Creator/BillPlympton tells of how the French view his Dog Trilogy as a metaphor for George Bush, even though that wasn't his intent, nor does he even like to make political cartoons.
28th Jul '17 5:34:01 AM ecojosh1
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr2d4As312LulcajAkKJYw Townsends]] is a Youtube channel that revolves around 18th century American living, with an emphases of cooking. A video shot at Mount Vernon is about orange fool, a dessert enjoyed by the Washingtons. Once the video was posted, the comments section was flooded with comments from people on both sides of the political spectrum who saw it as a take that against Donald Trump.

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* [[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr2d4As312LulcajAkKJYw Townsends]] is a Youtube channel that revolves around 18th century American living, with an emphases of cooking. A video shot at Mount Vernon is about orange fool, a dessert enjoyed by the Washingtons. Once the video was posted, the comments section was flooded with comments from people on both sides of the political spectrum who saw it "orange fool" as a take that TakeThat against Donald Trump.
26th Jul '17 6:48:42 AM ecojosh1
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* Townsends is a Youtube channel that revolves around 18th century American living, with an emphases of cooking. A video shot at Mount Vernon is about orange fool, a dessert enjoyed by the Washingtons. Once the video was posted, the comments section was flooded with comments from people on both sides of the political spectrum who saw it as a take that against Donald Trump.

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* Townsends [[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxr2d4As312LulcajAkKJYw Townsends]] is a Youtube channel that revolves around 18th century American living, with an emphases of cooking. A video shot at Mount Vernon is about orange fool, a dessert enjoyed by the Washingtons. Once the video was posted, the comments section was flooded with comments from people on both sides of the political spectrum who saw it as a take that against Donald Trump.
26th Jul '17 6:24:56 AM ecojosh1
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* Townsends is a Youtube channel that revolves around 18th century American living, with an emphases of cooking. A video shot at Mount Vernon is about orange fool, a dessert enjoyed by the Washingtons. Once the video was posted, the comments section was flooded with comments from people on both sides of the political spectrum who saw it as a take that against Donald Trump.
21st Jul '17 10:59:15 PM Baggebythesea
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** The Gummie Bears are the remain of a VestigialEmpire in a medieval setting, reminiscent of the roman empire and the small groups of monks and intellectuals keeping the knowledge alive. With his conflict against a feodal king and use of their ancient technology and knowledge, Duke Igthorn can be seen as an up and coming machiavellian renaissance lord.
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