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15th Jun '16 6:08:13 AM Az_Tech341
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'''Kiritsugu''': And there you go. You heard her, Iri: our Heroic Spirit here thinks that the battlefield is something better than Hell. What a joke: it's Hell itself. There's no hope on the battlefield; it has nothing but unspeakable despair - just a crime we call victory, paid for by the pain of the defeated.

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'''Kiritsugu''': And there you go. You heard her, Iri: our Heroic Spirit here thinks that the battlefield is something better than Hell. What a joke: it's Hell itself. There's no hope on the battlefield; it has nothing but unspeakable despair - just a crime we call victory, "victory", paid for by the pain of the defeated.


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15th Jun '16 6:01:40 AM Az_Tech341
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-> '''Arturia''': The taking of life, as a human act, must have laws and ideals. Otherwise, every war would bring hell to this world.\\

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-> '''Arturia''': The taking of life, as a human act, must have laws and ideals. Otherwise, every war would bring hell Hell to this world.\\
15th Jun '16 5:59:51 AM Az_Tech341
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--> '''Arturia''': The taking of life, as a human act, must have laws and ideals. Otherwise, every war would bring hell to this world.\\

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--> -> '''Arturia''': The taking of life, as a human act, must have laws and ideals. Otherwise, every war would bring hell to this world.\\
15th Jun '16 5:57:11 AM Az_Tech341
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--'''Kiritsugu''': And there you go. You heard her, Iri: our Heroic Spirit here thinks that the battlefield is something better than Hell. What a joke: it's Hell itself. There's no hope on the battlefield; it has nothing but unspeakable despair - just a crime we call victory, paid for by the pain of the defeated.

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--'''Kiritsugu''': '''Kiritsugu''': And there you go. You heard her, Iri: our Heroic Spirit here thinks that the battlefield is something better than Hell. What a joke: it's Hell itself. There's no hope on the battlefield; it has nothing but unspeakable despair - just a crime we call victory, paid for by the pain of the defeated.
15th Jun '16 5:55:06 AM Az_Tech341
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->''"I confess, without shame, I am sick and tired of fighting—its glory is all moonshine; even success the most brilliant is over dead and mangled bodies, with the anguish and lamentations of distant families, appealing to me for sons, husbands and fathers ... 'tis only those who have never heard a shot, never heard the shriek and groans of the wounded and lacerated ... that cry aloud for more blood, more vengeance, more desolation."''
-->-- '''General [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar William Tecumseh Sherman]]''', speech to the Michigan Military Academy class of 1874.

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->''"I confess, without shame, I am sick and tired --> '''Arturia''': The taking of fighting—its glory is all moonshine; even success the most brilliant is over dead and mangled bodies, with the anguish and lamentations of distant families, appealing to me for sons, husbands and fathers ... 'tis only those who life, as a human act, must have never laws and ideals. Otherwise, every war would bring hell to this world.\\
--'''Kiritsugu''': And there you go. You
heard a shot, never heard her, Iri: our Heroic Spirit here thinks that the shriek and groans battlefield is something better than Hell. What a joke: it's Hell itself. There's no hope on the battlefield; it has nothing but unspeakable despair - just a crime we call victory, paid for by the pain of the wounded and lacerated ... that cry aloud for more blood, more vengeance, more desolation."''
defeated.
-->-- '''General [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar William Tecumseh Sherman]]''', speech to the Michigan Military Academy class of 1874.
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10th Jun '16 9:03:31 PM Discar
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'': ''The Last Great Time War'' is said to be this. By the end, it turned the Time Lords into bad guys, forcing the Doctor to kill them all[[note]][[spoiler:[[Recap/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor sort of]]]][[/note]]. Its effects on the Doctor reverberate through the new series.

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'': ''Series/DoctorWho'':
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''The Last Great Time War'' is said to be this. By the end, it turned the Time Lords into bad guys, forcing the Doctor to kill them all[[note]][[spoiler:[[Recap/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor sort of]]]][[/note]]. Its effects on the Doctor reverberate through the new series.



** The Twelfth Doctor gives an incredibly moving speech regarding his experiences in the Time War:
-->'''The Doctor''': Do you call this a war, this funny little thing? This is not a war! I fought in a bigger war than you will ever know! I did worse things than you could ever imagine! And when I close my eyes... I hear more screams than anyone could ever be able to count! And you know what you do with all that pain? Shall I tell you where you put it? You hold it tight, till it burns your hand! And you say this: No one else will ever have to live like this! No one else will ever have to feel this pain! Not on my watch!

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** The Twelfth Doctor gives an incredibly moving speech regarding his experiences in the Time War:
-->'''The Doctor''': Do
War. A villain tells him that he can't understand her war, and he ''laughs''.
--->'''The Doctor:''' I don't understand? Are you kidding? Me? Of course I understand. I mean, do
you call this a war, this funny little thing? This ''This'' is not a war! I ''I'' fought in a bigger war than you ''you'' will ever know! I did worse ''worse'' things than you could ever imagine! And when I close my eyes... I hear more screams than anyone could ever ''ever'' be able to count! And you know what you do with all that pain? Shall I tell you where you put it? You hold it tight, ''tight'', till it burns your hand! And you say this: No one else will ever ''ever'' have to live like this! No one else will ever have to feel ''feel'' this pain! Not on my watch!
17th May '16 3:53:08 AM aartbastiaan
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[[WaxingLyrical War! Hunh! Good God, y'all! What is it good for? Absolutely nuthin'!]] (Though the BloodKnight definitely disagrees.)

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[[WaxingLyrical War! Hunh! Good God, y'all! What is it good for? Absolutely nuthin'!]] (Though the BloodKnight definitely disagrees.)
) TruthInTelevision, obviously.



TruthInTelevision, though fiction may exaggerate, and the degree to which this is true will vary from war to war, country to country, and even soldier to soldier. One thing sure, someone is going to [[TearJerker cry]]. Few works that use this trope agree with (and some don't even acknowledge) the idea that [[YouAreWorthHell war can be preferable to/easier than many/most/all other courses of action]].
22nd Mar '16 8:47:24 PM Gemfyre
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* In the sixth chapter of ''Shielded Under the Raptor's Wings'', titled [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8514416/9/Shielded-Under-the-Raptor-s-Wings "The Truth of War"]], a Minbari ground force launches a charge on open terrain against a Human force that outnumber and outguns them by a large margin, and gets graphically slaughtered. This was done because, otherwise, the Minbari back home would have dismissed the tales of the survivors (those who had been evaquated in time, those who had already spent there their tours of duty before evaquation became necessary, and those too wounded to fight) as the justifications of cowards.

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* In the sixth chapter of ''Shielded Under the Raptor's Wings'', titled [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8514416/9/Shielded-Under-the-Raptor-s-Wings "The Truth of War"]], a Minbari ground force launches a charge on open terrain against a Human force that outnumber and outguns them by a large margin, and gets graphically slaughtered. This was done because, otherwise, the Minbari back home would have dismissed the tales of the survivors (those who had been evaquated in time, those who had already spent there their tours of duty before evaquation evacuation became necessary, and those too wounded to fight) as the justifications of cowards.


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** Harry Welsh also says this to Dick Winters after inquiring about how his (rather minor) ricochet injury is healing.
3rd Mar '16 11:57:11 AM captainmarkle
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* As with the Film examples above, several TV series deal with the effects of war on both soldiers and civilians, including Vietnam-era shows ''Series/ChinaBeach'', ''Series/TourOfDuty'', the pilot episode of ''Series/TheWonderYears'' (where [[spoiler: Winnie's brother dies]]) and the modern-day ''Series/CombatHospital''.

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* As with the Film examples above, several TV series deal with the effects of war on both soldiers and civilians, including Vietnam-era [[TheVietnamVet Vietnam-era]] shows ''Series/ChinaBeach'', ''Series/TourOfDuty'', the pilot episode of ''Series/TheWonderYears'' (where [[spoiler: Winnie's brother dies]]) and the modern-day ''Series/CombatHospital''.
15th Feb '16 11:06:11 AM bobwolf
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** When war does come, it is as horrible as imagined. [[spoiler: Sweet [[RobotGirl Penny]]'s accidental death starts off a massive invasion that ends with [[HotBlooded Yang]] losing [[AnArmAndALeg an arm]] and [[HeroicBsod her fighting spirit]], [[TheAce Pyrrha]] losing her life in a fight to the death, and Ozpin missing in action. The school has to be abandoned and these are just the opening shots of the war.]]
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