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6th May '16 8:38:22 AM Piando
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* {{Subverted}} on ''TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012,'' when [[HotBlooded Raphael]] accidentally switches bodies with a Kraang. Raph resorts to BadBadActing and a sort of {{Inverted}} HughMann act, but the Kraang in his body doesn't even try to trick the other Turtles, instead attacking them on sight. He escapes, wanders around New York in plain sight of humans, and then gets caught and hog-tied by the others pretty quickly.

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* {{Subverted}} on ''TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012,'' ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012,'' when [[HotBlooded Raphael]] accidentally switches bodies with a Kraang. Raph resorts to BadBadActing and a sort of {{Inverted}} HughMann act, but the Kraang in his body doesn't even try to trick the other Turtles, instead attacking them on sight. He escapes, wanders around New York in plain sight of humans, and then gets caught and hog-tied by the others pretty quickly.
14th Apr '16 2:43:17 PM Arachnos
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** Meanwhile, Discord, a different villain who has been trapped in the form of a [[TakenForGranite statue]] for even longer than Luna was on the moon, has no trouble with modern speech patterns at all. However, when he first breaks out, he seems to know a lot about the main cast, implying that he was [[AndIMustScream aware of his surroundings while he was locked into his statue]], which would explain that. This would later be confirmed in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E11KeepCalmAndFlutterOn Keep Calm and Flutter On]]".

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** Meanwhile, Discord, a different villain who has been trapped in the form of a [[TakenForGranite statue]] for even longer than Luna was on the moon, has no trouble with modern speech patterns at all. However, when he first breaks out, he seems to know a lot about the main cast, implying that he either was [[AndIMustScream aware of his surroundings while he was locked into his statue]], statue]] or is capable of {{telepathy}}, either of which would could explain that. This would later be confirmed (He affirms the former in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E11KeepCalmAndFlutterOn Keep Calm and Flutter On]]".On]]", though [[{{Troll}} being who he is]] it's possible that he's lying.)
29th Feb '16 2:39:56 PM poi99
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->''"The future isn't what you thought. It's what I am!"''
-->-- '''UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper''', to Creator/HGWells, ''Film/TimeAfterTime''

15th Feb '16 7:34:56 AM MacronNotes
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A heroic inversion of this trope is possible, but much rarer -- see LikeAFishTakesToWater.

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A heroic inversion of this trope is possible, but much rarer -- see LikeAFishTakesToWater.
LikeADuckTakesToWater.
31st Jan '16 8:42:05 AM nombretomado
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* One episode of ''SuperFriends'' had Superman switch with his duplicate from a MirrorUniverse; Evil Superman figured the whole thing out within fifteen seconds of coming to in the Hall of Justice, while Good Superman kept going "What's happening? Batman, why do you have a goatee? Why did you just say 'Hall of Kicking Puppies'?" until the bad guys figured it out and Kryptonited him.

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* One episode of ''SuperFriends'' ''{{WesternAnimation/Superfriends}}'' had Superman switch with his duplicate from a MirrorUniverse; Evil Superman figured the whole thing out within fifteen seconds of coming to in the Hall of Justice, while Good Superman kept going "What's happening? Batman, why do you have a goatee? Why did you just say 'Hall of Kicking Puppies'?" until the bad guys figured it out and Kryptonited him.
20th Dec '15 3:35:04 PM Luigifan
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In many cases it's an example of VillainsActHeroesReact; villains are much better at patient planning than ([[GuileHero most]]) heroes, and put lots of points into blending in with society - otherwise, [[FridgeLogic how would they have amassed power behind the scenes anyway]]? The hero often puts all his points into fighting the villain rather than adapting to the circumstances. If the hero ''gets'' to the villain, he wins, but the villain's best defense is having nobody take up arms against him to begin with, and then delaying the hero as much as possible. Both hero and villain make pretty reasonable bets. A side effect of this is that a sudden change of scene often permits the villain to call upon TheLopsidedArmOfTheLaw to get the hero ArrestedForHeroism.

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In many cases it's an example of VillainsActHeroesReact; villains are much better at patient planning than ([[GuileHero most]]) heroes, and put lots of points into blending in with society - -- otherwise, [[FridgeLogic how would they have amassed power behind the scenes anyway]]? The hero often puts all his points into fighting the villain rather than adapting to the circumstances. If the hero ''gets'' to the villain, he wins, but the villain's best defense is having nobody take up arms against him to begin with, and then delaying the hero as much as possible. Both hero and villain make pretty reasonable bets. A side effect of this is that a sudden change of scene often permits the villain to call upon TheLopsidedArmOfTheLaw to get the hero ArrestedForHeroism.



As a corollary, it will generally be easier for the villains to convince the locals that they're friendly than it will be for the heroes to convince them that they're not evil. Even if the evilness of the villains is [[RedRightHand writ large enough]] to be detectable from space ([[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast via]] {{Namedar}}). This mostly seems to result from the hero's stubborn refusal to shut the hell up about how great it was back in their world and to refuse to take on any native culture. They will wear the same outfit they had when they came him and constantly complain about the local food. This isn't helped by the fact that the hero will usually insist on going around shouting at people near-hysterically about how they're from the past and how utterly evil the villain is, [[YouHaveToBelieveMe in a fashion that only makes them come across like a complete psycho]]. The villain on the other hand will immediately trade in his duds for local wear and tuck into the native cuisine with gusto. He will never mention that he is from another world and be immediately accepted.

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As a corollary, it will generally be easier for the villains to convince the locals that they're friendly than it will be for the heroes to convince them that they're not evil. Even if the evilness of the villains is [[RedRightHand writ large enough]] to be detectable from space ([[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast via]] {{Namedar}}). This mostly seems to result from the hero's stubborn refusal to shut the hell up about how great it was back in their world and to refuse to take on any native culture. They will wear the same outfit they had when they came him in and constantly complain about the local food. This isn't helped by the fact that the hero will usually insist on going around shouting at people near-hysterically about how they're from the past and how utterly evil the villain is, [[YouHaveToBelieveMe in a fashion that only makes them come across like a complete psycho]]. The villain on the other hand will immediately trade in his duds for local wear and tuck into the native cuisine with gusto. He will never mention that he is from another world and be immediately accepted.
7th Nov '15 10:19:47 PM nombretomado
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* In the ComicBooks, ''CaptainAmerica'' had a bit of trouble fitting into the future at first, but his archenemy, The RedSkull, apparently hit the ground running as soon as he was revived. The difference is that Red Skull actually went into suspended animation by choice (sort of), while Cap fell in the water in 1945 and woke up in... [[ComicBookTime the present day]].

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* In the ComicBooks, ''CaptainAmerica'' ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'' had a bit of trouble fitting into the future at first, but his archenemy, The RedSkull, ComicBook/RedSkull, apparently hit the ground running as soon as he was revived. The difference is that Red Skull actually went into suspended animation by choice (sort of), while Cap fell in the water in 1945 and woke up in... [[ComicBookTime the present day]].
5th Nov '15 1:30:06 PM Morgenthaler
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* Partially used in ''VampireDiaries'' with the [[spoiler: vampires released from beneath the church, most of whom start fitting in pretty fast. However, they are seen being instructed in using modern technology, and some of them are too interested in feeding to bother learning much.]] And of course, the ability to mind control your way through most problems would help.

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* Partially used Justified in ''VampireDiaries'' ''Series/TheVampireDiaries'' with the vampires [[spoiler: vampires released from beneath the church, church]], most of whom start fitting in pretty fast. However, they are seen being instructed in using modern technology, and some of them are too interested in feeding to bother learning much.]] And of course, the ability to mind control your way through most problems would help.



* Inverted by the final season of ''{{Smallville}}'': [[MagnificentBastard Lionel Luthor's]] nicer counterpart from [[AlternateUniverse Earth-2]] is transported to the main universe and easily settles in, despite the fact that on Earth-1, Lionel Luthor's been ''dead'' for three years. He claims his cover story is that he faked his death, which is pretty believable for Earth-1 Lionel and he has Earth-1 Lionel's journal to fill in the details.

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* Inverted by the final season of ''{{Smallville}}'': ''Series/{{Smallville}}'': [[MagnificentBastard Lionel Luthor's]] nicer counterpart from [[AlternateUniverse Earth-2]] is transported to the main universe and easily settles in, despite the fact that on Earth-1, Lionel Luthor's been ''dead'' for three years. He claims his cover story is that he faked his death, which is pretty believable for Earth-1 Lionel and he has Earth-1 Lionel's journal to fill in the details.



* The villain Silverthorn in ''TheGirlFromTomorrow'' traveled from the year 2500 to 1990 and fit in better than Alana, who lived in the year 3000. Justified in that Silverthorn was older and Alana just a teenager and that Silverthorn had access to technology from the year 3000 that he used to his advantage, but it was also due to the fact that Silverthorn lived in post-apocalyptia and the selfish instincts he developed there aided his rise up the corporate ladder in 1990, whereas in 3000 the world was most of the way into being rebuilt into a utopia.

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* The villain Silverthorn in ''TheGirlFromTomorrow'' ''Series/TheGirlFromTomorrow'' traveled from the year 2500 to 1990 and fit in better than Alana, who lived in the year 3000. Justified in that Silverthorn was older and Alana just a teenager and that Silverthorn had access to technology from the year 3000 that he used to his advantage, but it was also due to the fact that Silverthorn lived in post-apocalyptia and the selfish instincts he developed there aided his rise up the corporate ladder in 1990, whereas in 3000 the world was most of the way into being rebuilt into a utopia.
17th Sep '15 8:55:49 AM Morgenthaler
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* Inverted in Creator/CSLewis's ''TheChroniclesOfNarnia''. The children are always quickly accepted by the Narnians, but Queen Jadis was openly mocked for trying to take over England.

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* Inverted in Creator/CSLewis's ''TheChroniclesOfNarnia''.''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia''. The children are always quickly accepted by the Narnians, but Queen Jadis was openly mocked for trying to take over England.



* In Creator/HPLovecraft's ''CthulhuMythos'', Nyarlathotep is able to pass off as a human surprisingly well, considering he's actually an EldritchAbomination, whose minds typically are as alien as you can get. Later novels by other authors explained that the Mi-go, an alien race that worships him as a god, have been observing Earth for quite some time, sending him information precisely so that he could pass himself off as a human.

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* In Creator/HPLovecraft's ''CthulhuMythos'', ''Franchise/CthulhuMythos'', Nyarlathotep is able to pass off as a human surprisingly well, considering he's actually an EldritchAbomination, whose minds typically are as alien as you can get. Later novels by other authors explained that the Mi-go, an alien race that worships him as a god, have been observing Earth for quite some time, sending him information precisely so that he could pass himself off as a human.



* The ''HisDarkMaterials'' trilogy has two characters, one villainous from Lyra's universe and one heroic from "our" universe who manage to adapt quite well to life in the other's universe while not being aware of each other, the former being [[spoiler:Lord Boreal AKA Sir Charles Latrom]] and the latter [[spoiler:John Parry AKA Dr. Stanislaus Grumman]]. However, this is still a mostly straight example since the latter managed to adapt mostly out of sheer luck (he became a respected academic due to his academy only requiring someone to submit a thesis and defend it to grant a title, which was quite easy for him due to the universe's lower technologic advancement) while the former somehow managed to become a ''knight'' and a senior member of the ''intelligence community'' in ''our universe'' despite his utter lack of background.

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* The ''HisDarkMaterials'' ''Literature/HisDarkMaterials'' trilogy has two characters, one villainous from Lyra's universe and one heroic from "our" universe who manage to adapt quite well to life in the other's universe while not being aware of each other, the former being [[spoiler:Lord Boreal AKA Sir Charles Latrom]] and the latter [[spoiler:John Parry AKA Dr. Stanislaus Grumman]]. However, this is still a mostly straight example since the latter managed to adapt mostly out of sheer luck (he became a respected academic due to his academy only requiring someone to submit a thesis and defend it to grant a title, which was quite easy for him due to the universe's lower technologic advancement) while the former somehow managed to become a ''knight'' and a senior member of the ''intelligence community'' in ''our universe'' despite his utter lack of background.



* Saint Dane in ''ThePendragonAdventure'' blends in extremely well, regardless of territory. His VoluntaryShapeshifting abilities play a part, but in some cases, he's gone as himself (Zadaa), and still assimilated fairly easily. Hero Bobby Pendragon has a much harder time no matter what the Territory.
* Count Olaf of ''ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'' plays this trope fairly straight (despite his general incompetence), with one notable subversion in the last book. It doubles as AdultsAreUseless, since his disguises were so [[PaperThinDisguise transparent]] that the Baudelaires saw through them right away while the adults remained almost willfully oblivious.
* Amaurn adjusts to Callisoria quite easily in the {{Shadowleague}} books, but his [[LukeIAmYourFather secret daughter]] and her partner have a harder time.
* Zig-zagged in the Series/DoctorWho Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures novels. Sabbath, one of the main recurring villains, manages to acquire a [[OffscreenVillainDarkMatter terribly nice house]] in ''Camera Obscura'', while the Doctor and his two companions sublet [[Franchise/SherlockHolmes 221 Baker Street]]. There are quite a few other instances of him managing to insinuate himself behind the scenes while the Doctor is still having trouble keeping on top of things enough to even [[FeigningIntelligence pretend]] he [[InsufferableGenius knew everything already]]. On the other hand, he seems to have trouble with the fact that the English language changes after his home era of the late 18th century: the phrase "just dandy" annoys him, and he goes from attempting to mimic 21st-century slang ([[SuperNotDrowningSkills drowning]]? "Been there, done that.") to using AntiquatedLinguistics to the point of incoherence.

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* Saint Dane in ''ThePendragonAdventure'' ''Literature/ThePendragonAdventure'' blends in extremely well, regardless of territory. His VoluntaryShapeshifting abilities play a part, but in some cases, he's gone as himself (Zadaa), and still assimilated fairly easily. Hero Bobby Pendragon has a much harder time no matter what the Territory.
* Count Olaf of ''ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'' ''Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'' plays this trope fairly straight (despite his general incompetence), with one notable subversion in the last book. It doubles as AdultsAreUseless, since his disguises were so [[PaperThinDisguise transparent]] that the Baudelaires saw through them right away while the adults remained almost willfully oblivious.
* Amaurn adjusts to Callisoria quite easily in the {{Shadowleague}} ''Literature/{{Shadowleague}}'' books, but his [[LukeIAmYourFather secret daughter]] and her partner have a harder time.
* Zig-zagged in the Series/DoctorWho Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures ''Series/DoctorWho'' ''Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures'' novels. Sabbath, one of the main recurring villains, manages to acquire a [[OffscreenVillainDarkMatter terribly nice house]] in ''Camera Obscura'', while the Doctor and his two companions sublet [[Franchise/SherlockHolmes 221 Baker Street]]. There are quite a few other instances of him managing to insinuate himself behind the scenes while the Doctor is still having trouble keeping on top of things enough to even [[FeigningIntelligence pretend]] he [[InsufferableGenius knew everything already]]. On the other hand, he seems to have trouble with the fact that the English language changes after his home era of the late 18th century: the phrase "just dandy" annoys him, and he goes from attempting to mimic 21st-century slang ([[SuperNotDrowningSkills drowning]]? "Been there, done that.") to using AntiquatedLinguistics to the point of incoherence.



* In ''{{Inkheart}}'', Capricorn loves the modern world and gets along in it fairly well; Dustfinger, on the other hand, hates it.

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* In ''{{Inkheart}}'', ''Literature/{{Inkheart}}'', Capricorn loves the modern world and gets along in it fairly well; Dustfinger, on the other hand, hates it.
9th Sep '15 4:48:04 PM nombretomado
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* {{Subverted}} in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold.'' A thrill-seeking {{Batwoman}} {{Expy}} [[FreakyFridayFlip switches bodies]] with Franchise/{{Batman}} and does a ''horrible'' job trying to fit in with the Batfamily, speaking and acting in an exaggeratedly feminine manner. Batman does a much better job convincing her accomplice, [[EvilSorcerer Felix Faust]], that he's her, even though he should [[FridgeLogic logically]] suspect that she'd already gone through with the body swap. When Batman finally meets up with {{Nightwing}} and ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}, he doesn't have much trouble convincing them who he is.

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* {{Subverted}} in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold.'' A thrill-seeking {{Batwoman}} ComicBook/{{Batwoman}} {{Expy}} [[FreakyFridayFlip switches bodies]] with Franchise/{{Batman}} and does a ''horrible'' job trying to fit in with the Batfamily, speaking and acting in an exaggeratedly feminine manner. Batman does a much better job convincing her accomplice, [[EvilSorcerer Felix Faust]], that he's her, even though he should [[FridgeLogic logically]] suspect that she'd already gone through with the body swap. When Batman finally meets up with {{Nightwing}} ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} and ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}, he doesn't have much trouble convincing them who he is.
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