History Main / VillainSue

** While Emperor Palpatine in the films can seem Sue-ish, his portrayal in the EU goes BeyondTheImpossible in making him one. According to many EU sources, Palpatine is a prolific author, a renowned scholar and political theorist, an unprecedented archaeologist, an expert award-winning pilot (that's not a joke), possesses a masterful insight into psychology, is multilingual (though many people in StarWars are), and is a certified genius. Of course, this all pales in comparison to DarkEmpire, in which [[FanNickname "Wankatine"]] is so powerful that he clones himself back to life, can rip apart space and time with his mind, and is now basically {{Darkseid}}. Puzzlingly, he then gets severe VillainDecay near the end and dies at the hands of {{Muggle}} Han Solo while [[GrandTheftMe trying to possess a baby]]. The EU is [[{{Understatement}} strange]].

** Sylar's a bigger case, having survived [[strike: three]] [[strike: four]] five seasons and isn't letting up. He manages to dodge every situation where he normally would've died. His telekinesis and power absorption ends up trumping any other character with ease. Plus, [[spoiler:he ended up killing Arthur without breaking a sweat...although having the Haitian nearby, trying his hardest to suppress Arthur, must have helped [[{{Understatement}} a little.]]]]

* Grenouille from [[{{Perfume}} Perfume]], especially his movie incarnation.

* Grenouille from [[Perfume Perfume]], especially his movie incarnation.

* Grenouille from ''Perfume'', especially his movie incarnation.

* Grenouille from [[Perfume]].

* ''{{Bleach}}'''s Sosuke Aizen is often accused of being this. His power is leagues and leagues beyond everyone who's attempted to fight him to date. There is finally an exception with [[spoiler:Yamamoto, whose superior power Aizen overcame by superior tactics, and Ichigo, whose hollow powers were enough to wound Aizen rather significantly. However, even THIS is useless against him, because he can magically repair any damage thanks to the Hogyoku being implanted in his body. When Isshin showed up, he quickly began to lay the hurt on Aizen, but following another powerup, Aizen became indestructible once more. Even after Urahara and Yoruichi appeared, [[NoSell all they did was throw attacks at him to no effect]]. Oh, and his XanatosGambit? He claims to have been responsible for ''the entire plot from the [[XanatosRoulette first chapter (at least)]]''. In the next chapter, he elaborates. If we're to believe what he's saying is the real truth and not something he made up to mess with Ichigo's head, Aizen orchestrated every single one of Ichigo's fights in the series. Aizen intentionally positioned Renji, Kenpachi, Byakuya, etc, because they were around the same level as him at the time. Finally, when he was eventually defeated, Ichigo theorized that he only lost because he wanted to.]] Though that was apparently at at a semi-subconscious level, and Ichigo [[UnreliableNarrator has a track record for being mindbogglingly kind towards several of his enemies.]] Even if it is true, [[spoiler: relying way too much on an empathic artifact without being honest with himself about his feelings]] is stupid enough to mark him as a SmugSnake. It also bears mentioning that Aizen's biggest tactical asset is [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech delivering carefully-worded barbs against his targets.]]

**** …. Tell me you're kidding.
So Deidara, Kakazu, Orochimaru, not to mention Kabuto and Madara are all Villain Sue too?

*** Well, while Sasuke's newfound power is detrimental to the plot, it doesn't yet make him a Sue (while he and several other equally bullshit-powerful characters made rest of the cast nearly irrelebant, he's still one among several). No, what pushes him into this trope is the fact, that to get his power he basically betrayed everyone he knew, and sold himself to an evil sorcerer (who is also most likely a pedophile), shitting on the tropes that previously defined ''{{Naruto}}'', like PowerOfFriendship and TeamSpirit. And somehow ended up getting exactly what he wanted from this DealWithTheDevil, no strings or clear MoralEventHorizon crossing (although he arguably jumps over it later) attached! Thus he practically single-handedly [[BrokenAesop redefined the moral message of the series for the worse]].

* "Shreya To Jinx" is a ''TeenTitans'' fanfiction that takes the villain character of Jinx and paints her as a hidden hero of all existence, by way of making sure Raven defeats Trigon, as Raven's the only one who can hope to do so. Borderline in that she's still defeated many times by the "''heroes''" as in the show (as the story runs parallel to the show itself) and she is not given any more skill than we are shown, but she's "burdened" with knowledge that would require an encyclopaedia sized book to keep straight.

** While he's a major VillainSue at the beginning of the story, the comic starts to subvert this as it goes along. The Plutonian is revealed to secretly want love and redemption, but has to live with knowing those things are impossible after everything he's done. At the same time, figures like The Survivor, Orian, and The Vespa begin to emerge, who are more than capable of beating him in a fight.

** At least it's quite satisfying to [[spoiler: see her be slaughtered by the former (sorta) VillainSue, Forte, who she effortlessly defeated and cast into the Undernet at the beginning of ''Stream'']].

[[caption-width-right:350: Stealing the weapons of the strongest beings in the universe to go for a joyride. Piece of cake.[[hottip:*:[[FridgeLogic You can barely see his clothes...]]]]

[[caption-width-right:350: Stealing the weapons of the strongest beings in the universe to go for a joyride. Piece of cake.[[hottip:FridgeLogic:You can barely see his clothes...]]]]

[[caption-width-right:350: Stealing the weapons of the strongest beings in the universe to go for a joyride. Piece of cake.]]

* ''{{Bleach}}'''s Sosuke Aizen is often accused of being this. His power is leagues and leagues beyond everyone who's attempted to fight him to date. There is finally an exception with [[spoiler:Yamamoto, whose superior power Aizen overcame by superior tactics, and Ichigo, whose hollow powers were enough to wound Aizen rather significantly. However, even THIS is useless against him, because he can magically repair any damage thanks to the Hogyoku being implanted in his body. When Isshin showed up, he quickly began to lay the hurt on Aizen, but following another powerup, Aizen became indestructible once more. Even after Urahara and Yoruichi appeared, [[NoSell all they did was throw attacks at him to no effect]]. Oh, and his XanatosGambit? He claims to have been responsible for ''the entire plot from the [[XanatosRoulette first chapter (at least)]]''. In the next chapter, he elaborates. If we're to believe what he's saying is the real truth and not something he made up to mess with Ichigo's head, Aizen orchestrated every single one of Ichigo's fights in the series. Aizen intentionally positioned Renji, Kenpachi, Byakuya, etc, because they were around the same level as him at the time. Finally, when he was eventually defeated Ichigo theorized that he only lost because he wanted to.]] Though that was apparently at at a semi-subconscious level, and Ichigo [[UnreliableNarrator has a track record for being mindbogglingly kind towards several of his enemies.]] Even if it is true, [[spoiler: relying way too much on an empathic artifact without being honest with himself about his feelings]] is stupid enough to mark him as a SmugSnake. It also bears mentioning that Aizen's biggest tactical asset is [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech delivering carefully-worded barbs against his targets.]]

* ''{{Bleach}}'''s Sosuke Aizen is often accused of being this. His power is leagues and leagues beyond everyone who's attempted to fight him to date. There is finally an exception with [[spoiler:Yamamoto, whose superior power Aizen overcame by superior tactics, and Ichigo, whose hollow powers were enough to wound Aizen rather significantly. However, even THIS is useless against him, because he can magically repair any damage thanks to the Hogyoku being implanted in his body. When Isshin showed up, he quickly began to lay the hurt on Aizen, but following another powerup, Aizen became indestructible once more. Even after Urahara and Yoruichi appeared, [[NoSell all they did was throw attacks at him to no effect]]. Oh, and his XanatosGambit? He claims to have been responsible for ''the entire plot from the [[XanatosRoulette first chapter(at least)]]''. In the next chapter, he elaborates. If we're to believe what he's saying is the real truth and not something he made up to mess with Ichigo's head, Aizen orchestrated every single one of Ichigo's fights in the series. Aizen intentionally positioned Renji, Kenpachi, Byakuya, etc, because they were around the same level as him at the time. Finally, when he was eventually defeated Ichigo theorized that he only lost because he wanted to.]] Though that was apparently at at a semi-subconscious level, and Ichigo [[UnreliableNarrator has a track record for being mindbogglingly kind towards several of his enemies.]] Even if it is true, [[spoiler: relying way too much on an empathic artifact without being honest with himself about his feelings]] is stupid enough to mark him as a SmugSnake. It also bears mentioning that Aizen's biggest tactical asset is [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech delivering carefully-worded barbs against his targets.]]

** The sixth movie has the main antagonist, Hiruko. He has [[spoiler:utilized FOUR bloodline limits that were NEVER MENTIONED IN THE ENTIRE MOVIE, his chimera technique, put a mind control spell on KAKASHI HATAKE, can LEVITATE, can copy ANY attack thrown at him, including Raikiri and the Regular rasengan and use both at the same time, and is only defeated by Naruto's Rasen Shuriken. He also Experimented on many people in the hidden leaf to become the ultimate being. And even as he dies, Kakashi ACTUALLY FORGIVES him simply because he felt sorry for Hiruko being weaker than his teammates.]]

** The sixth movie has the main antagonist, Hiruko. He has [[spoiler:utilized FOUR bloodline limits that were NEVER MENTIONED IN THE ENTIRE MOVIE, his chimera technique. put a mind control spell on KAKASHI HATAKE, can LEVITATE, can copy ANY attack thrown at him, including Raikiri and the Regular rasengan and use both at the same time, and is only defeated by Naruto's Rasen Shuriken. He also Experimented on many people in the hidden leaf to become the ultimate being. And even as he dies, Kakashi ACTUALLY FORGIVES him simply because he felt sorry for Hiruko being weaker than his teammates.]]

* The BigBad at the end of ''New Ultimates vs Ultimate Avengers'' [[spoiler GregoryStark]] falls into this after he's revealed. His weaponry makes him capable of taking out ''multiple'' Hulks, is supposedly better at being TheChessmaster than NickFury, and is supposedly smarter than even Iron Man. To top it all off, [[spoiler: even though he dies]] he pretty much wins with the heroes mentioning how great it actually is that his plans succeeded. And it's all done for the pettiest of reasons: [[spoiler: To one-up his little brother in the superhero community.]]

* The BigBad at the end of ''New Ultimates vs Ultimate Avengers'' [[spoilerGregoryStark]] falls into this after he's revealed. His weaponry makes him capable of taking out ''multiple'' Hulks, is supposedly better at being TheChessmaster than NickFury, and is supposedly smarter than even Iron Man. To top it all off, [[spoiler: even though he dies]] he pretty much wins with the heroes mentioning how great it actually is that his plans succeeded. And it's all done for the pettiest of reasons: [[spoiler: To one-up his little brother in the superhero community.]]

** It's somewhat common for Sues who work with the [=RMs=] to hate Wily instead of (or [[RonTheDeathEater in addition to]]) Megaman, thus allowing them to either [[RelationshipSue nab their RM of choice]] or do totally "badass" stuff while remaining [[JerkSue "neutral"]]. [[http://ranaythemarysue.tumblr.com/tagged/Why_Ranay_Is_A_Sue One case]] pulls the "I'm a bad guy but not really!" card so hard that it makes them (among other things) an unholy hybrid of Villain Sue and ''[[PuffOfLogic Purity Sue.]]''

** Well, while some of are darklords actually are quite powerful, most range from not particularly special to outright weak, at least compared to de-facto superheroes you play in AD&D. Above-mentioned Harkon Lucas, for example, is totally no big deal to defeat once mid-level characters. Their only really good power is implied inabilily to die for good until the Dark Powers pick someone more evil and angsty to become a new darklord.