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13th Feb '18 5:09:37 PM ZimFan89
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** The [[Series/{{Babylon5}} Centauri Republic]] is almost completely dismantled by the Crusader Pact, with Centauri Prime and its main colony being destroyed and them then being forced to abandon all colonies that previously belonged to other races. They rebuild from this remnant, however, becoming a sort of space Switzerland in later years.
13th Feb '18 1:55:54 PM nielas
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* ''Series/{{Justified}}'' shows us that this happened to the Crowder criminal empire. A few years before the start of the series all criminals in Harlan County were beholden to Bo Crowder who got a cut of every criminal enterprise in the area with the exception of the marijuana trade which was controlled by the Bennett clan. However, a Crowder cousin kidnapped and murdered the niece of the local sheriff and Bo refused to turn him over to the police. The sheriff cut a deal with the Miami Cartel who turned over the killer to him for vigilante justice. In return he FramedTheGuiltyParty and sent Bo away to prison on trumped up charges. Bo left his oldest son Bowman and trusted associate Arlo Givens in charge of his criminal operations. However, Arlo was starting to go senile and Bowman was a thug who lacked the PragmaticVillainy favored by the rest of his family. When Bo gets out of prison, his empire is in tatters. Bowman abused his wife one too many times and was shot dead by her, Arlo is a mess and Bo's younger son Boyd is going through a weird HeelFaithTurn. Bo tries to rebuild his criminal organization but Boyd wrecks his attempt to partner up with the Cartel and Bo is killed. Later Boyd tries to take over but is thwarted by law enforcement and rival gangs moving in. The final nail comes when he allies himself with the Detroit Mob only for that organization to implode. When Boyd finally goes to prison, the Crowders have little influence over the crime in Harlan.
** At the beginning of the series, the Bennett clan controls all marijuana trade in Harlan County and surrounding areas and even the Crowders will not mess with them. However, Mags Bennett, the family matriarch, and her oldest son Doyle plan on retiring and going legit. Dickie Bennett tries to take over the operations but he quickly messes things up and in the ensuring conflict all the Bennetts except Dickie end up dead. Dickie attempts a comeback but he fails again and ends up in prison. The conflict in the final season is kicked off when Avery Markham returns from exile and tries to take over the Bennett's old marijuana operation. By the ends of the series the Bennett criminal empire seems to get a resurgence as Loretta McCready, a TeenGenius Mags took under her wing, is able to convince the local marijuana growers to back her against Markham.
9th Feb '18 8:48:52 AM Tacitus
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* Certainly possible in a game of ''VideoGame/{{Civilization}}'', and in the fifth game Persia is particularly prone to this. Persia's unique ability in ''Civ V'' is based around the "Golden Age" mechanic, in which a sufficiently happy population leads to a brief period of increased empire-wide income and production. In Persia's case it also gets a boost to military units' strength and speed, allowing it to quickly conquer new territory, but unless the player has timed things carefully, they runs the risk of being left with a military incapable of defending the empire's borders once the Golden Age ends. The "From Achaemenid to Safavid" achievement requires the player to earn five such Golden Ages in one game and refers to the RealLife Persians' [[HereWeGoAgain somewhat mixed history with this trope]].

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* Certainly possible in a game of ''VideoGame/{{Civilization}}'', and in the fifth game Persia is particularly prone to this. Persia's unique ability in ''Civ V'' is based around the "Golden Age" mechanic, in which a sufficiently happy population leads to a brief period of increased empire-wide income and production. In Persia's case it also gets a boost to military units' strength and speed, allowing it to quickly conquer new territory, but unless the player has timed things carefully, they runs run the risk of being left with a military incapable of defending the empire's new borders once the Golden Age ends. The "From Achaemenid to Safavid" achievement requires the player to earn five such Golden Ages in one game and refers to the RealLife Persians' [[HereWeGoAgain somewhat mixed history with this trope]].
7th Feb '18 2:15:28 AM LondonKdS
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* In the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse:

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'':
** "The Space Museum" features the Moroks, a race hung up on past glories and conquests. Their influence has declined and all that is really left of their empire are museums full of the spoils of war that no-one ever visits.
** "The Dominators" features the Dominators, a race that has conquered the Tenth Galaxy but has spread itself far too thin as a result. The result of this is that the Dominator invasion fleet bound for Dulkis that we see in the story is limited to two rather gullible officers (one of whom is a {{Jerkass}} PsychoForHire the other can't even stand) and a gaggle of {{Killer Robot}}s with limited power reserves, because there isn't any infrastructure for having any more ships. They lack any sort of intelligence about the world, know nothing of the inhabitants and don't seem to realise they're invading a nuclear testing island containing only a handful of students studying it and the Doctor's party. Their plan is to convert Dulkis into a sort of giant geothermal furnace with which to power their dying fleet.
2nd Feb '18 5:06:03 PM Xtifr
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* In Creator/DavidWeber's ''Literature/HellsGate'' series, the [[TheKingdom Ternathian Empire]] was previously a massive empire spreading across most of the planet of Sharona (essentially an AlternateUniverse of Earth). Unlike most examples, the empire was not established out of a desire for expansion but instead to secure their borders against lawless brigands and organized raiders - and every time the new borders were stabilized, more cross-border raiders and brigands appeared, forcing the empire to expand to destroy them as well. Ternathia eventually withdrew from many of its outer territories when they became too expensive to maintain control of, turning them over to local governments in an orderly, controlled contraction of their borders.

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* In Creator/DavidWeber's ''Literature/HellsGate'' series, the [[TheKingdom [[TheGoodKingdom Ternathian Empire]] was previously a massive empire spreading across most of the planet of Sharona (essentially an AlternateUniverse of Earth). Unlike most examples, the empire was not established out of a desire for expansion but instead to secure their borders against lawless brigands and organized raiders - and every time the new borders were stabilized, more cross-border raiders and brigands appeared, forcing the empire to expand to destroy them as well. Ternathia eventually withdrew from many of its outer territories when they became too expensive to maintain control of, turning them over to local governments in an orderly, controlled contraction of their borders.



* The [[TheKingdom Dollet Dukedom]] in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'', analogous to the RealLife [[VestigialEmpire Post-WWI Imperialist states]]. Attacked towards the beginning of the game by its former territory, [[TheEmpire Galbadia]], itself similar to the RealLife Third Reich.

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* The [[TheKingdom [[TheGoodKingdom Dollet Dukedom]] in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'', analogous to the RealLife [[VestigialEmpire Post-WWI Imperialist states]]. Attacked towards the beginning of the game by its former territory, [[TheEmpire Galbadia]], itself similar to the RealLife Third Reich.



* ''Videogame/{{Ravenmark}}: Mercenaries'' starts with the once-great [[TheEmpire Empire of Estellion]] barely holding its own against its former ally the [[TheKingdom Commonwealth of Esotre]] and the newly-arisen Varishah Federation. The territory making up the Federation are made up of provinces rebelling from the Empire. The Twin Cities, the cultural and economic core of Estellion, have seceded and resist any attempts to take them.

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* ''Videogame/{{Ravenmark}}: Mercenaries'' starts with the once-great [[TheEmpire Empire of Estellion]] barely holding its own against its former ally the [[TheKingdom [[TheGoodKingdom Commonwealth of Esotre]] and the newly-arisen Varishah Federation. The territory making up the Federation are made up of provinces rebelling from the Empire. The Twin Cities, the cultural and economic core of Estellion, have seceded and resist any attempts to take them.
31st Jan '18 11:30:35 PM Fireblood
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* Almost every nation in ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' is this, at least on the continent where most of the story takes place, due to a mysterious depopulation and the effects of repeated wars. Even the tiny city-state of Mayene claims to be ruled by a descendant of Artur Hawkwing's continent-spanning realm, and there were entire kingdoms swallowed by [[GardenOfEvil the Blight]] that were supposed to be very strong. Much of the depopulation since then could be attributed to people being killed/enslaved by raiding from the Blight. All of the major southern cities are indicated to be very large, as they have never been attacked and some (at the beginning of the series, at any rate) did not even believe that [[GoddamnOrcs Trollocs]] existed.

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* Almost every nation in ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' is this, at least on the continent where most of the story takes place, due to a mysterious depopulation and the effects of repeated wars. Even the tiny city-state of Mayene claims to be ruled by a descendant of Artur Hawkwing's continent-spanning realm, and there were entire kingdoms swallowed by [[GardenOfEvil the Blight]] that were supposed to be very strong. Much of the depopulation since then could be attributed to people being killed/enslaved by raiding from the Blight. All of the major southern cities are indicated to be very large, as they have never been attacked and some (at the beginning of the series, at any rate) did not even believe that [[GoddamnOrcs [[GoddamnOrks Trollocs]] existed.



* ''Literature/TheSilerianTrilogy'': The Kintish Kingdoms, which once ruled Sileria. In the past they were far more powerful, but have become overshadowed by the Valdani recently. [[spoiler: The Valdani eventually invade them.]]



* ''Literature/TheSilerianTrilogy'': The Kintish Kingdoms, which once ruled Sileria. In the past they were far more powerful, but have become overshadowed by the Valdani recently. [[spoiler: The Valdani eventually invade them.]]



** As of the end of the sixth season, [[spoiler:the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros has become this. Cersei Lannister finally managed to destroy a great number of her opponents and officially grasped the reins of power, but of the Seven Kingdoms, Dorne is openly revolting against the throne, the Vale, the Iron Islands, and the North are doing so in secret with the Reach about to join in, and YoungConqueror[=/=]DragonRider Daenerys has ''finally'' launched her own invasion to attempt to retake the kingdom. On top of all that, Cersei's house was confirmed several seasons back to secretly be bankrupt, nobody in the Court aside from a few toadies is personally loyal to her, and the Crown itself is heavily in debt to a bank with a reputation for getting rulers who don't pay back their loans overthrown and replaced by their rivals who will do so. [[PyrrhicVillainy Cersei has finally gotten her hands on the throne right when the throne lost all its power]]. As of the end of the seventh season she's mostly turned it around; the Iron Islands are hers, Dorne has been neutralized by taking out it's leaders, the Reach has been effectively wiped out and the money looted from there used to pay off the bank, and all her other enemies have agreed to a ceasefire to fight a greater war in the North.]]

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** As of the end of the sixth season, [[spoiler:the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros has become this. Cersei Lannister finally managed to destroy a great number of her opponents and officially grasped the reins of power, but of the Seven Kingdoms, Dorne is openly revolting against the throne, the Vale, the Iron Islands, and the North are doing so in secret with the Reach about to join in, and YoungConqueror[=/=]DragonRider Daenerys has ''finally'' launched her own invasion to attempt to retake the kingdom. On top of all that, Cersei's house was confirmed several seasons back to secretly be bankrupt, nobody in the Court aside from a few toadies is personally loyal to her, and the Crown itself is heavily in debt to a bank with a reputation for getting rulers who don't pay back their loans overthrown and replaced by their rivals who will do so. [[PyrrhicVillainy Cersei has finally gotten her hands on the throne right when the throne lost all its power]]. As of the end of the seventh season she's mostly turned it around; the Iron Islands are hers, Dorne has been neutralized by taking out it's its leaders, the Reach has been effectively wiped out and the money looted from there used to pay off the bank, and all her other enemies have agreed to a ceasefire to fight a greater war in the North.]]
27th Jan '18 2:56:33 PM ZimFan89
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** [[Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamamoto The Gamilians]] are one of space-faring humanity's first major enemies, but after losing the Mekon War, they retreat and end up fracturing back into nation-states. Then they get invaded by the [[Franchise/MassEffect Reapers]] and rescued by the [[Franchise/StarTrek Romulans]], to whom they become a VoluntaryVassal.

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** [[Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamamoto [[Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato The Gamilians]] are one of space-faring humanity's first major enemies, but after losing the Mekon War, they retreat and end up fracturing back into nation-states. Then they get invaded by the [[Franchise/MassEffect Reapers]] and rescued by the [[Franchise/StarTrek Romulans]], to whom they become a VoluntaryVassal.
27th Jan '18 2:55:24 PM ZimFan89
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* FanFic/ShatteredEmpire focuses on the Imperial Remnant of Star Wars legends and mentioned below in the literature section as the main protagonist. Like in the source material they used to be Palpatine galaxy spanning Empire before being reduced to a mere eight sectors by the New Republic. They however seek to restore their status to how it was during Palpatine's reign.

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* FanFic/ShatteredEmpire focuses on the Imperial Remnant of Star Wars legends Legends and mentioned below in the literature section as the main protagonist. Like in the source material they used to be Palpatine galaxy spanning Empire before being reduced to a mere eight sectors by the New Republic. They however seek to restore their status to how it was during Palpatine's reign. reign.
* ''Fanfic/EarthsAlienHistory'' has a couple of examples:
** [[Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamamoto The Gamilians]] are one of space-faring humanity's first major enemies, but after losing the Mekon War, they retreat and end up fracturing back into nation-states. Then they get invaded by the [[Franchise/MassEffect Reapers]] and rescued by the [[Franchise/StarTrek Romulans]], to whom they become a VoluntaryVassal.
** The Citadel races. War with the [[Franchise/{{Metroid}} Space Pirates]] heavily damage their economy and infrastructure, then the [[ComicStrip/DanDare Mekon]] and his allies invade, annexing the Batarians, damaging many of their key worlds, and detonating an Omega particle near the Citadel itself which makes FTL travel to the station difficult. They recover somewhat by offering seats on the Council to all member races, but after the [[Literature/{{Uplift}} Five Galaxies]] War, the Quarians and Krogans defect to [[TheAlliance TeTO]], weakening them again. [[spoiler: Then the Reaper War hits them even harder with Pavalan being destroyed and the Turian Hierarchy effectively ceasing to exist.]]
22nd Jan '18 6:20:57 AM EmperorMax2019
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* The Society of ''Literature/Red Rising'' once spanned from Mercury to Pluto and ruled everything in the solar system. By the beginning of the SequelSeries, [[LaResistance The Rising]] and the [[RenegadeSplinterFaction Moon Lords]] have reduced it to just Mercury and Venus. And then ''Literature/IronGold'' opens up with them losing Mercury to the new [[TheRepublic Solar Republic]].

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* The Society of ''Literature/Red Rising'' ''Literature/RedRising'' once spanned from Mercury to Pluto and ruled everything in the solar system. By the beginning of the SequelSeries, [[LaResistance The Rising]] and the [[RenegadeSplinterFaction Moon Lords]] have reduced it to just Mercury and Venus. And then ''Literature/IronGold'' opens up with them losing Mercury to the new [[TheRepublic Solar Republic]].
22nd Jan '18 6:19:57 AM EmperorMax2019
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* The Society of ''Literature/Red Rising'' once spanned from Mercury to Pluto and ruled everything in the solar system. By the beginning of the SequelSeries, [[LaResistance The Rising]] and the [[RenegadeSplinterFaction Moon Lords]] have reduced it to just Mercury and Venus. And then ''Literature/IronGold'' opens up with them losing Mercury to the new [[TheRepublic Solar Republic]].
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