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25th Aug '16 4:42:50 AM LordInsane
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* ''VideoGame/PillarsOfEternity'' has one or two known, depending on how you see it. The clearer example is the Aedyr Empire, which is still a powerful force but has contracted in the last few, losing control of its transoceanic colonies in Dyrwood (where the game takes place) and Readceras. The other, more questionable example is Old Vailia, which not only has lost control of the old colonies of the Grand Empire of Vailia, but has also itself splintered into states that has engaged in a struggle for dominance for the last two centuries or so.

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* ''VideoGame/PillarsOfEternity'' has one or two known, depending on how you see it. The clearer example is the Aedyr Empire, which is still a powerful force but has contracted in the last few, two centuries, losing control of its transoceanic colonies in Dyrwood (where the game takes place) and Readceras. The other, more questionable example is Old Vailia, which not only has lost control of the old colonies of the Grand Empire of Vailia, but has also itself splintered into states that has engaged in a struggle for dominance for the last two centuries or so.


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* The Empire of ''VideoGame/{{Naev}}'' was decaying even ''before'' the Incident that destroyed Earth and most of the core worlds of the Empire, and even if it ironically solved an immediate and major threat to the Empire the Empire is still on an overall downward course.
21st Aug '16 4:08:14 AM Morgenthaler
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* The French also downplays this to a degree like the British do, and many of the same traits apply to it (UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} member, permanent seat in the UN Security Council, [[TheUltimateResistance nuclear weapons capability]], fourth-largest military and fifth-largest economy. They remain a powerful force in the world and in Europe and Western Africa in particular, both by themselves and through their influence with the EU. That, and they still have a number of larger overseas territories around. Not bad for a bunch of CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkeys.

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* The French also downplays this to a degree like the British do, and many of the same traits apply to it (UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} member, permanent seat in the UN Security Council, [[TheUltimateResistance [[UsefulNotes/TheUltimateResistance nuclear weapons capability]], fourth-largest military and fifth-largest economy. They remain a powerful force in the world and in Europe and Western Africa in particular, both by themselves and through their influence with the EU. That, and they still have a number of larger overseas territories around. Not bad for a bunch of CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkeys.
17th Jul '16 8:42:23 AM Theriocephalus
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* ''FanFic/ABriefHistoryOfEquestria'': By the time of [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E13HearthsWarmingEve Hearth's Warming]], this is the fate that had befallen both [[TheHorde the Mongrellian Horde]] ''and'' [[TheEmpire the Griffin Empire]], which had collapsed in ways similar to the Mongols and the Roman Empire, respectfully (fittingly, as they are presented as [[{{Expy}} expies]] of those nations).

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* ''FanFic/ABriefHistoryOfEquestria'': By the time of [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E13HearthsWarmingEve Hearth's Warming]], this is the fate that had befallen both [[TheHorde the Mongrellian Horde]] ''and'' [[TheEmpire the Griffin Empire]], which had collapsed in ways similar to the Mongols and the Roman Empire, respectfully respectively (fittingly, as they are presented as [[{{Expy}} expies]] of those nations).
14th Jul '16 2:24:26 PM skteosk
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* The Federation in ''[[Series/BlakesSeven Blake's 7]]'' ends up as one of these in the last two seasons. Invaded by aliens from Andromeda, they achieve a pyrrhic victory in which they only survive at all through sheer force of numbers. In the early part of the third season, they seem to have pretty much ceased to exist, with Servalan facing rebellion on Earth and many worlds free of Federation influence. Although the fourth season sees them rebuilding, they still don't have the resources for conventional military conquest, relying on mind control drugs for which the resistance have a vaccine.
12th Jul '16 6:20:32 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** Note that in all three cases, "vestigial" should not be taken to mean "weak". Even if their golden ages were millennia ago, these civilizations have held out for this long in one of the most ridiculously lethal settings ever imagined.

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** Note that in all three cases, "vestigial" should not be taken to mean "weak". Even if their golden ages were millennia ago, these civilizations have held out for this long in one of the most ridiculously lethal settings ever imagined. There's also the simple matter of scale; even the Eldar can call on ''billions'' of soldiers, but it's nothing compared to the uncountable armies of the Imperium or the even larger forces of Orks and Tyranids.
12th Jul '16 6:09:46 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** Another example from Discworld would be Djelibeybi, Pratchett's analogue to AncientEgypt in ''Pyramids''. They only control a tiny stretch of river by the events of the book, but it's stated that they used to control most of the continent before they sold it all to pay for pyramids.

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** Another example from Discworld would be Djelibeybi, Pratchett's analogue to AncientEgypt in ''Pyramids''. They only control a tiny stretch of river by the events of the book, but it's stated that they used to control most of the continent before they sold it all to pay for pyramids. They still serve a vital role, since it means the two local powerhouse nations don't actually share a border and have an excuse not to go to war.
20th Jun '16 6:48:43 PM Ramidel
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* In ''VideoGame/EmperorOfTheFadingSuns'', a 4x space game where you take control of one of five noble houses in the attempt to reunite a dying galactic empire.

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* In ''VideoGame/EmperorOfTheFadingSuns'', a 4x space game where you take control the empire of one of Vladimir Alecto, as a state, is dead. However, the Imperial bureaucracy that he established, and the precedent that he set, still exist, and the five noble houses in Great Houses that actually govern parts of the attempt galaxy are trying to reunite claim the throne. Byzantium Secundus, the former capital, is maintained as a dying galactic empire.TruceZone and mostly governed by the remnants of said bureaucracy.
9th Jun '16 1:11:58 PM Jhonny
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* '''Belgium''' used to have an empire several times its own size when its king Leopold II managed to make what is now the Democratic Republic of the Congo his personal property and Belgium later took it over as a "normal" colony. Nowadays Belgium is reduced to bickering over who gets to vote in the Brussels constituency and delicious waffles. On the other hand Belgium has mostly stopped massacring people in Africa, which is nice.
9th Jun '16 10:30:19 AM ReaderAt2046
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* The Griffon Empire of FanFic/RainbowDoubleDashsLunaverse offers an interesting twist on this trope. Instead of the Empire shrinking, it shattered into dozens of feuding kingdoms. Collectively, the Kingdoms still control about as much territory as the old Empire, and represent comparable amounts of military and economic power, but it would take something truly drastic to unify them again.
4th Jun '16 7:49:45 PM Fireblood
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* ''Literature/TheSilerianTrilogy'': The Kintish Kingdoms, which once ruled Sileria. In the past they were far more powerful, but have become overshadowed by the Valdani recently. [[spoiler: The Valdani eventually invade them.]]
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