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8th Jan '18 10:53:16 AM bitemytail
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* In ''VideoGame/XCom2'', the aliens have banned the keeping of pets and livestock. Despite this, 'advent burgers' are still available. Lore states they are made of reconstituted protein, but suspiciously does reveal what the protein is reconstituted from.

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* In ''VideoGame/XCom2'', ''VideoGame/XCOM2'', the aliens have banned the keeping of pets and livestock. Despite this, 'advent burgers' are still available. Lore states they are made of reconstituted protein, but suspiciously does reveal what the protein is reconstituted from.
8th Jan '18 10:52:03 AM bitemytail
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* In ''VideoGame/XCom2'', the aliens have banned the keeping of pets and livestock. Despite this, 'advent burgers' are still available. Lore states they are made of reconstituted protein, but suspiciously does reveal what the protein is reconstituted from.
5th Jan '18 2:35:12 PM Everdream
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* ''Disney / {{Zootopia}}'' very conspicuously avoids actually showing or discussing what the predators eat now, dispute the plot essentially revolving around lingering FantasticRacism fueled by the fact they did eat the sapient prey animals in pre-civilization times. The fandom has largely assumed this trope is in play, with the predators only eating bugs and fish, though some think they eat non-sapient birds or reptiles because only mammals are shown in the film, and ArtificialMeat is another possibility. We do see Nick eating blue berries, something real foxes do.

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* ''Disney / {{Zootopia}}'' ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' very conspicuously avoids actually showing or discussing what the predators eat now, dispute the plot essentially revolving around lingering FantasticRacism fueled by the fact they did eat the sapient prey animals in pre-civilization times. The fandom has largely assumed this trope is in play, with the predators only eating bugs and fish, though some think they eat non-sapient birds or reptiles because only mammals are shown in the film, and ArtificialMeat is another possibility. We do see Nick eating blue berries, something real foxes do.
5th Jan '18 2:34:14 PM Everdream
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* ''Disney / {{Zootopia}}'' very conspicuously avoids actually showing or discussing what the predators eat now, dispute the plot essentially revolving around lingering FantasticRacism fueled by the fact they did eat the sapient prey animals in pre-civilization times. The fandom has largely assumed this trope is in play, with the predators only eating bugs and fish, though some think they eat non-sapient birds or reptiles because only mammals are shown in the film, and ArtificialMeat is another possibility. We do see Nick eating blue berries, something real foxes do.
4th Nov '17 8:43:58 AM oforiousmic
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* Real-Life Exception (sort of): The ancient Assyrians were a culture of almost-vegetarian agrarians ''and'' a cruel warrior race who brutally tortured and killed those they defeated.

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* Real-Life Exception (sort of): Subversion: The ancient Assyrians were a culture of almost-vegetarian agrarians ''and'' a cruel warrior race who brutally tortured and killed those they defeated.
6th Oct '17 2:48:53 PM Lloigor
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** Vulcans -- which serve as the "[[CantArgueWithElves morally-superior]]" race, at least in their own minds. However there are plants, and then there are ''Vulcan'' plants. In a ''Franchise/StarTrek'' novel set on Spock's homeworld, the characters are attacked by a mobile, shrieking, prey-stalking ''carnivorous plant'' native to the region ... and after it's been phasered to death, Spock eats some of it. One of the early TOS novels postulated that Vulcans were vegetarians partly because the herbivores previously used as meat died off during Surak's time. The most common reason given for their vegetarianism is the same one that led them to pacifism. They are such a violent and destructive race that they have to go to extreme lengths to not destroy themselves/conquer the universe/destroy the universe.
** Riker eats eggs (Owon Eggs), Heart of Targ, gagh (live and dead), pipius claw... but claims people have moved beyond enslaving animals. Perhaps this refers to raising livestock as opposed to wild animals.
** Veganism seems common on Federation ships due to access to replicators that can create very convincing meat substitutues, avoiding the need to keep the real stuff in storage on long voyages. Attitudes about veganism vary widely, from disdain toward the concept of eating meat -- like Riker claiming they don't enslave animals for food anymore, to acceptance -- like Picard importing genuine seafood at what was implied to be great expense to eagerness: Dax and other patrons of Klingon cuisine complaining that their ''gagh'' is too dead.

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** Vulcans -- which serve as the "[[CantArgueWithElves morally-superior]]" race, at least in their own minds. However there are plants, and then there are ''Vulcan'' plants. In a ''Franchise/StarTrek'' novel set on Spock's homeworld, the characters are attacked by a mobile, shrieking, prey-stalking ''carnivorous plant'' native to the region ...region... and after it's been phasered to death, Spock eats some of it. One of the early TOS novels postulated that Vulcans were vegetarians partly because the herbivores previously used as meat died off during Surak's time. The most common reason given for their vegetarianism is the same one that led them to pacifism. They are such a violent and destructive race that they have to go to extreme lengths to not destroy themselves/conquer the universe/destroy the universe.
** Riker eats eggs (Owon Eggs), eggs), Heart of Targ, gagh (live and dead), pipius claw... but claims people have moved beyond enslaving animals. Perhaps this refers to raising livestock as opposed to wild animals.
** Veganism seems common on Federation ships due to access to replicators that can create very convincing meat substitutues, substitutes, avoiding the need to keep the real stuff in storage on long voyages. Attitudes about veganism vary widely, from disdain toward the concept of eating meat -- - like Riker claiming they don't enslave animals for food anymore, to acceptance -- - like Picard importing genuine seafood at what was implied to be great expense to eagerness: Dax and other patrons of Klingon cuisine complaining that their ''gagh'' is too dead.
6th Oct '17 2:46:39 PM Lloigor
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* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' the people of Naath are extreme pacifists who don't eat meat and mainly live on fruit.

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* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', the people of Naath are extreme pacifists who don't eat meat and mainly live on fruit.
23rd Aug '17 11:11:46 PM PaulA
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* The future humans in Creator/AnneMcCaffrey's ''Literature/TheShipWho Sang'' universe are all vegetarians, except for some "backward" {{mutants}}.

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* The future humans in Creator/AnneMcCaffrey's ''Literature/TheShipWho Sang'' ''Literature/TheShipWho'' universe are all vegetarians, except for some "backward" {{mutants}}.
23rd Aug '17 3:03:51 AM Aquila89
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* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' the people of Naath are extreme pacifists who don't eat meat and mainly live on fruit.
10th Aug '17 11:16:45 AM BeerBaron
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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' inverts this with the Bosmer (Wood Elves), who are religiously obliged to follow the "Green Pact," meaning they can ''only'' eat meat within their homeland of Valenwood in order to protect their sacred plants. Culturally, they are also obliged to eat their fallen enemies after killing them in battle. (Both of these restrictions appear to be heavily relaxed on Bosmer who live outside of Valenwood, however.)

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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' inverts this with the [[OurElvesAreBetter Bosmer (Wood Elves), Elves)]], who are religiously obliged to follow the "Green Pact," meaning Pact" they can ''only'' eat meat made with their patron deity, Y'ffre, the [[NatureSpirit God of the Forest]], leading to them having a highly carnivorous diet within their homeland of Valenwood in order to protect their sacred plants. Culturally, they are also obliged to [[ImAHumanitarian eat their fallen enemies after killing them in battle. (Both battle]] as they are not allowed to rot within (and thus taint) Valenwood. Both of these restrictions appear to be heavily relaxed on Bosmer who live outside of Valenwood, however.)however. Even within Valenwood, there is much LoopholeAbuse. Using fallen deadwood and eating fruit that fell off of trees naturally is allowed. Mushrooms may also be eaten, as they do not count as plants.
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