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30th Jun '16 8:24:32 PM PaulA
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* In Poul Anderson's "A World Called Maanerek", the Hegemony wants to reunite all mankind. Even Sonna thinks it noble until she realizes they don't want to ally with her people but exterminate them so they won't interfere.

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* In Poul Anderson's "A World Called Maanerek", Creator/PoulAnderson's "Literature/AWorldCalledMaanerek", the Hegemony wants to reunite all mankind. Even Sonna thinks it noble until she realizes they don't want to ally with her people but exterminate them so they won't interfere.
28th Jun '16 7:55:57 AM ZimFan89
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* In ''Fanfic/PonyPOV'' Princess [[spoiler:Gaia/Nightmare Whisper]] is an interesting example of this. She wants everyone to be happy (what with being [[spoiler:Fluttershy]]), and while she's not as extreme as many other examples of the trope, she does think that anyone who isn't happy must be FORCED to be happy, and that in order to achieve this goal, [[spoiler:[[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood magically turning ponies into foals in both body and mind]] ]]is a-ok! In an even straighter example of this trope, her Knight [[spoiler:Cherilee]] actually attempts to KILL the Mane Six because they were distrupting [[spoiler:Gaia's LotusEaterMachine]].

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* In ''Fanfic/PonyPOV'' From the ''Fanfic/PonyPOVSeries'', Princess [[spoiler:Gaia/Nightmare Whisper]] is an interesting example of this. She wants everyone to be happy (what with being [[spoiler:Fluttershy]]), and while she's not as extreme as many other examples of the trope, she does think that anyone who isn't happy must be FORCED to be happy, and that in order to achieve this goal, [[spoiler:[[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood magically turning ponies into foals in both body and mind]] ]]is a-ok! In an even straighter example of this trope, her Knight [[spoiler:Cherilee]] actually attempts to KILL the Mane Six because they were distrupting [[spoiler:Gaia's LotusEaterMachine]].


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* ''Series/TwelveMonkeys'' eventually reveals that unleashing ThePlague on the world was just a stepping stone in the Army of the Twelve Monkeys' overall EvilPlan. It was simply to ensure that time travel would be created to try and counter it, which the Messengers -- the Army's SuperSoldiers -- could then hijack it to go back and [[spoiler: kill the Primaries (humans who act as {{Cosmic Keystone}}s maintaining time itself) with paradoxes]] in order to create a TimeCrash. All because their leader, [[BigBad the Witness]], has convinced them that a world without time would be a paradise, as it would also be a world without death.
26th Jun '16 1:04:56 AM Morgenthaler
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* One ''{{Shortpacked}}'' arc involves Robin and Ultra-Car going to an alternate universe where the Drama Tag was never pulled, meaning that the comic's CerebusSyndrome and subsequent CharacterDevelopment never took place. Everyone is [[StepfordSmiler cheery but a bit off]], and every strip ends with a joke. Among other changes, Galasso's [[TheLostLenore dead wife Pamela]] is still alive. It turns out that she created the Drama Tag to stay with her family, and argues that everyone is happier with this reality than they would be if the Tag was pulled. [[spoiler:Rachel, who is also stuck there, pulls it anyway to finally get back to the normal universe]].

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* One ''{{Shortpacked}}'' ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}'' arc involves Robin and Ultra-Car going to an alternate universe where the Drama Tag was never pulled, meaning that the comic's CerebusSyndrome and subsequent CharacterDevelopment never took place. Everyone is [[StepfordSmiler cheery but a bit off]], and every strip ends with a joke. Among other changes, Galasso's [[TheLostLenore dead wife Pamela]] is still alive. It turns out that she created the Drama Tag to stay with her family, and argues that everyone is happier with this reality than they would be if the Tag was pulled. [[spoiler:Rachel, who is also stuck there, pulls it anyway to finally get back to the normal universe]].
14th Jun '16 3:22:41 AM eroock
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Contrast DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans, when the villain actively seeks to create a ''CrapsackWorld''. See also DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, where they will create or maintain either simply to remain in power.

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Contrast DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans, when the villain actively seeks to create a ''CrapsackWorld''.CrapsackWorld. See also DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, where they will create or maintain either simply to remain in power.
26th May '16 4:12:27 PM Moonstreak
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It's a place built out of dreams and starlight; the name "{{Utopia}}" is a somewhat poignant pun by its author, blending the Greek words for Good Place (eutopia) and "No Place" (outopia), and despite (or perhaps because of) its unattainable nature, it has endured in myth and dreams since. While dreaming about what it would be like is harmless (like how [[FanService topless glamour model volleyball]] would be the national sport, [[CoolAndUnusualPunishment bureaucrats would work recycling paper]], there's NoPoverty and ice cream is [[AppliedPhlebotinum just as delicious with none of the calories]]...mmmm...), it's just a dream based on nothing more solid than wishful thinking.

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It's a place built out of dreams and starlight; the name "{{Utopia}}" is a somewhat poignant pun by its author, blending the Greek words for Good Place (eutopia) and "No Place" (outopia), and despite (or perhaps because of) its unattainable nature, it has endured in myth and dreams since. While dreaming about what it would be like is harmless (like how [[FanService topless glamour model volleyball]] would be the national sport, [[CoolAndUnusualPunishment bureaucrats would work recycling paper]], there's NoPoverty and ice cream is [[AppliedPhlebotinum just as delicious with none of the calories]]... mmmm...), it's just a dream based on nothing more solid than wishful thinking.
23rd May '16 2:33:46 PM ChaoticNovelist
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*''Literature/JourneyToChaos'': [[spoiler: Nunnal Enaz wants to cure mana mutation victims, mend the relations between elves and mortals, put an end to the elven slave trade, weaken Order's power in Tariatla and make sure Order can never ever threaten her home village. To do this, she risks the safety of her home village, the freedom of her family, and her own life on TheBet with Order.]]



* The One Ring in ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' offers everyone who comes near it a vision of a world bowing to them as a great and mighty lord (not necessarily an Utopian though). Most hobbits are able to resist its effects solely [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway due to their humility]]. Admittedly, if you were smaller than even your average ''dwarf'', you would probably find it hard to see yourself as some kind of Evil Overlord as well. And even then the extent of the Ring's influence varies from Hobbit to Hobbit...

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* The One Ring in ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' offers everyone who comes near it a vision of a world bowing to them as a great and mighty lord (not necessarily an Utopian though). Utopian). Most hobbits are able to resist its effects solely [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway [[HumbleHero due to their humility]]. Admittedly, if you were smaller than even your average ''dwarf'', you would probably find it hard to see yourself as some kind of Evil Overlord as well. And even then the extent of the Ring's influence varies from Hobbit to Hobbit...
12th May '16 9:35:06 AM Morgenthaler
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* TheKnightsTemplar in ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI'' and ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'' plan to [[spoiler:control the world using LostTechnology from [[{{Precursors}} Those Who Came Before]]. Vidic, lamenting how people in [[UsefulNotes/TheCrusades 1191]] are no different in manner from the people of [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture 2012]], says that the world needs a sense of order, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill even if it means giving up freedom]].]]

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* TheKnightsTemplar UsefulNotes/TheKnightsTemplar in ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI'' and ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'' plan to [[spoiler:control the world using LostTechnology from [[{{Precursors}} Those Who Came Before]]. Vidic, lamenting how people in [[UsefulNotes/TheCrusades 1191]] are no different in manner from the people of [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture 2012]], says that the world needs a sense of order, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill even if it means giving up freedom]].]]
10th May '16 4:29:37 AM M84
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* In ''Comicbook/{{Invincible}}'', [[spoiler:Robot]] decides that the best and ''only'' way to establish peace and prosperity on Earth [[spoiler:is to kill everyone who might oppose him -- preemptively. Which includes most of his ''own fellow superheroes''.]] The worst part is that [[spoiler:he succeeds, and everyone else more or less goes along with him after he wins since fighting him would just cause even more senseless death and destruction.]]
5th May '16 10:11:59 PM TSBasilisk
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* Literature/{{Worm}}'s [[spoiler: protagonist has mostly arrived at this view, [[TheInfiltration deci]][[BecomingTheMask ding]] to join up with other villains since the heroes have failed to impress her.]]
** Ironically, [[spoiler: The world's greatest heroes feel the same about their crimes against humanity.]]

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* Literature/{{Worm}}'s [[spoiler: protagonist has mostly eventually arrived at this view, [[TheInfiltration deci]][[BecomingTheMask ding]] to join up with other villains since the heroes have failed to impress her.]]
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** Ironically, [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:Cauldron and the world's greatest heroes heroes]] feel the same about their crimes against humanity.]]humanity.
** Coil believed he could rebuild Brockton Bay and establish a new paradigm in the balance of villain and heroes. To do so he took many unsavory actions, especially [[spoiler:kidnapping and drugging Dinah]].
7th Apr '16 1:01:39 PM Love777
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* In ''Fanfic/PonyPOV'' Princess [[spoiler:Gaia/Nightmare Whisper]] is an interesting example of this. She wants everyone to be happy (what with being [[spoiler:Fluttershy]]), and while she's not as extreme as many other examples of the trope, she does think that anyone who isn't happy must be FORCED to be happy, and that in order to achieve this goal, [[spoiler:[[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood magically turning ponies into foals in both body and mind]] ]]is a-ok! In an even straighter example of this trope, her Knight [[spoiler:Cherilee]] actually attempts to KILL the Mane Six because they were distrupting [[spoiler:Gaia's LotusEaterMachine]].
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