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16th Oct '17 12:15:00 PM StarformDCX
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** The United Federation of Planets is said to be Gene Roddenberry's idea of "utopia"-no poverty, disease, or war exists on the Earth of the 24th century. ''Deep Space Nine'', though, pokes some pretty big holes in that idealistic view, with terrorism, war, and a 'secret police' cabal that will do ''anything'' to ensure that everyone is safe and sound. But since most of the stories of political intrigue were written after Roddenberry's death, [[DependingOnTheWriter it's hard to tell whether or not they're actually canon]].

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** The United Federation of Planets is said to be Gene Roddenberry's idea of "utopia"-no poverty, disease, or war exists on the Earth of the 24th century. ''Deep Space Nine'', though, pokes some pretty big holes in that idealistic view, with terrorism, war, and a 'secret police' cabal that will do ''anything'' to ensure that everyone is safe and sound. But since most of the stories of political intrigue were written after Roddenberry's death, [[DependingOnTheWriter it's hard to tell whether or not they're actually canon]].
11th Aug '17 11:20:45 AM TheNerfGuy
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syRjyGxxba4 The town of Perfect.]] A [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin perfect place to live]] where there are beautiful gardens with no poison ivy or allergies, photographs always turn out beautiful, banks are always open, and carpets never stain. Unfortunately, most folks don't live anywhere near Perfect, so [[TagLine Walgreens has everything needed for the real world.]]
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16th Jul '17 6:12:14 AM SeptimusHeap
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** The second movie, "The Beast with a Billion Backs" [[spoiler:almost ends with all of the universe living in a Utopian setting on a galaxy-sized tentacled alien that loves everyone (romantically), renders them immortal, and looks like the ThemePark version of [[FluffyCloudHeaven Heaven]]. Then a [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic jealous Bender and his robotic Army of the Damned invade "Heaven" and end up getting everyone exiled]], because [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop True Love is Jealous and Needy]].]]

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** The second movie, "The Beast with a Billion Backs" [[spoiler:almost ends with all of the universe living in a Utopian setting on a galaxy-sized tentacled alien that loves everyone (romantically), renders them immortal, and looks like the ThemePark version TheThemeParkVersion of [[FluffyCloudHeaven Heaven]]. Then a [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic jealous Bender and his robotic Army of the Damned invade "Heaven" and end up getting everyone exiled]], because [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop True Love is Jealous and Needy]].]]
5th Jul '17 4:07:12 AM LadyJaneGrey
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5th Jul '17 4:03:22 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syRjyGxxba4 The town of Perfect.]] A [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin perfect place to live]] where there are beautiful gardens with no poison ivy or allergies, photographs always turn out beautiful, banks are always open, and carpets never stain. Unfortunately, most folks don't live anywhere near Perfect, so [[TagLine Walgreens has everything needed for the real world.]]
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5th May '17 10:23:41 PM TotemicHero
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* A couple of songs by Music/ScatmanJohn are centered around some place called "Scatland", a ideal world while there's no corruption or discrimination, only peace and understanding.
29th Apr '17 3:48:33 PM IdumeanPatriot
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* William Lind's ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' offers the Northern Confederation, a neo-reactionary direct democracy with a very hands-off, Articles of Confederation-style federal government that scraps all welfare payments, rolls back feminism, homosexuality, anti-racism and other social changes of the 20th century that the author considers destructive, and effectively enforces an idealized, conservative 19th-century lifestyle for its citizens, with all the good ''and'' bad that entails. While the author evidently intends to present it as an honest utopia, or at least the closest thing to one we are likely to get, he also realizes that not everyone would be happy with it, and has characters criticize it in-story. Notably, one critic from an [[PuttingOnTheReich effectively Nazi]] fantasy nation dislikes their [[CapitalismIsBad shopkeeper mentality]], while others from a LadyLand are horrified by a nation that expects all women to be [[MandatoryMotherhood good Christian housewives]] and nothing else.
11th Apr '17 2:06:33 PM Discar
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* ''Series/TheMagicians2016'': There is an in-universe series of books about the magical land of Fillory, which is basically [[Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia Narnia]] without the villains. Quentin Coldwater, the main character, is ecstatic when he finds out Fillory is real. However, it turns out that while there are many wonderful things about Fillory, in the end it has many dark parts, like any other world. Sexism is rampant, political chaos is the order of the day, the gods are hedonistic idiots (albeit well-meaning ones), and DisproportionateRetribution combined with MightMakesRight is the most common law. Sometimes it seems like the only reason people fall in love with Fillory is because the atmosphere is 0.2% opium. As Quentin notes, that's kind of a cheating way to get you to like a place.

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* ''Series/TheMagicians2016'': There is an in-universe series of books about the magical land of Fillory, which is basically [[Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia Narnia]] without the villains. Quentin Coldwater, the main character, is ecstatic when he finds out Fillory is real. However, it turns out that while there are many wonderful things about Fillory, in the end it has many dark parts, like any other world. Sexism is rampant, political chaos is the order of the day, the gods are hedonistic idiots (albeit well-meaning ones), and DisproportionateRetribution combined with MightMakesRight is the most common law. Sometimes it seems like the only reason people fall in love with Fillory is because the atmosphere is 0.2% opium. As Quentin notes, that's kind of a cheating way to get you to like a place.
31st Mar '17 3:42:55 PM nombretomado
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* Angelnetted worlds in ''OrionsArm'' are essentially utopian. Within the angelnet you cannot be physically harmed, psychologically harmed, have your memeset (perception of reality) interfered with or have your rights violated. However the [[DeusEstMachina AI Gods]] are still the "iron fist in a velvet glove" so there isn't any ''real'' freedom, not that you'd ever know.

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* Angelnetted worlds in ''OrionsArm'' ''WebOriginal/OrionsArm'' are essentially utopian. Within the angelnet you cannot be physically harmed, psychologically harmed, have your memeset (perception of reality) interfered with or have your rights violated. However the [[DeusEstMachina AI Gods]] are still the "iron fist in a velvet glove" so there isn't any ''real'' freedom, not that you'd ever know.
16th Mar '17 4:24:14 PM Discar
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* ''Series/TheMagicians2016'': There is an in-universe series of books about the magical land of Fillory, which is basically [[Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia Narnia]] without the villains. Quentin Coldwater, the main character, is ecstatic when he finds out Fillory is real. However, it turns out that while there are many wonderful things about Fillory, in the end it has many dark parts, like any other world. Sexism is rampant, political chaos is the order of the day, the gods are hedonistic idiots (albeit well-meaning ones), and DisproportionateRetribution combined with MightMakesRight is the most common law. Sometimes it seems like the only reason people fall in love with Fillory is because the atmosphere is 0.2% opium. As Quentin notes, that's kind of a cheating way to get you to like a place.
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