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15th Oct '16 5:11:21 PM Fireblood
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* ''Imagine'' by Music/JohnLennon, paints the picture of a communist and irreligious utopia (as usual, this will not sound good to all).



* According to ''Literature/TheBible'', the world will become Utopian ''AfterTheEnd''.

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* According to ''Literature/TheBible'', the world will become Utopian Utopia ''AfterTheEnd''.
15th Oct '16 5:06:21 PM Fireblood
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* In his ''Observation on the Spot'', another [[AuthorAvatar Ijon Tichy]] vehicle, Tichy visits Lusania-a country on the planet mentioned in one of his earlier adventures, where everyone lives in a seemingly perfect Utopia brought in by hypertech {{nanomachines}}. Half of the book is devoted to {{deconstruction}} of the folly of its creators-from [[FishOutOfWater Tichy's standpoint]] he couldn't help to not notice glaring holes in the logic and workings of their society. And ''vice versa''.
* Creator/RayBradbury's ''The Toynbee Convector'' provides a man-made utopia in Earth's future. In the present, Craig Bennett Stiles announced on a live TV broadcast that he had invented and successfully tested the first functional TimeMachine. While the machine shorted out on its maiden voyage, he did succeed in traveling 100 years into the future, procuring artifacts and video footage from the future and returning. He announced that within the next century, mankind would rise above its darker nature and abolish the evils that have plagued civilization; poverty, war, prejudice, hatred. We would wipe out all diseases, colonize the Solar System and live in perfect harmony with nature and with each other. 100 years later, that future has indeed come to pass, and a reporter locates Stiles, still alive at 130, on the day that Stiles' younger self is set to arrive in the future. In the resulting interview, Stiles reveals that [[spoiler:he never actually traveled through time; the time machine, artifacts and video footage were all created by a special-effects team. He believed that, at the end of the 20th century, the world was careening toward self-destruction, and that mankind needed a vision of a better world, even if he had to invent that vision himself. He created the lie, and the world chose to make it the truth.]]

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* In his ''Observation on the Spot'', another [[AuthorAvatar Ijon Tichy]] vehicle, Tichy visits Lusania-a country on the planet mentioned in one of his earlier adventures, where everyone lives in a seemingly perfect Utopia brought in by hypertech {{nanomachines}}. Half of the book is devoted to {{deconstruction}} of the folly of its creators-from [[FishOutOfWater Tichy's standpoint]] he couldn't help to not but notice glaring holes in the logic and workings of their society. And ''vice versa''.
* Creator/RayBradbury's ''The Toynbee Convector'' provides a man-made utopia in Earth's future. In the present, Craig Bennett Stiles announced on a live TV broadcast that he had invented and successfully tested the first functional TimeMachine. While the machine shorted out on its maiden voyage, he did succeed in traveling 100 years into the future, procuring artifacts and video footage from the future and returning. He announced that within the next century, mankind would rise above its darker nature and abolish the evils that have plagued civilization; civilization: poverty, war, prejudice, hatred. We would wipe out all diseases, colonize the Solar System and live in perfect harmony with nature and with each other. 100 years later, that future has indeed come to pass, and a reporter locates Stiles, still alive at 130, on the day that Stiles' younger self is set to arrive in the future. In the resulting interview, Stiles reveals that [[spoiler:he never actually traveled through time; the time machine, artifacts and video footage were all created by a special-effects team. He believed that, at the end of the 20th century, the world was careening toward self-destruction, and that mankind needed a vision of a better world, even if he had to invent that vision himself. He created the lie, and the world chose to make it the truth.]]
15th Oct '16 5:02:33 PM Fireblood
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* Le Guin's novel ''Literature/TheDispossessed'' is subtitled ''An Ambiguous Utopia'', which nicely summarizes the setting - Anarres is presented as a much less flawed world than ours, but it is still far from perfect. Le Guin puts down much of this to an [[ObstructiveBureaucrat obstructive bureaucracy]] and decay of the idealism that led to Anarres' founding in the first place.

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* Le Guin's novel ''Literature/TheDispossessed'' is subtitled ''An Ambiguous Utopia'', which nicely summarizes the setting - Anarres is presented as a much less flawed world than ours, but it is still far from perfect. Le Guin puts down much of this to an [[ObstructiveBureaucrat obstructive bureaucracy]] and decay of the idealism that led to Anarres' Anarres's founding in the first place.



* A more straight example is in works of I. Efremov: the ''Literature/AndromedaNebula'', ''Heart of Serpent'' and ''Hour of the Bull'' all show us three consecutive eras of a communist utopia. However there is a FridgeLogic subversion once you realize parallels between Earth' society and that of Tormance, the {{dystopia}}n society that's introduced in the third book.

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* A more straight example is in works of I. Efremov: the ''Literature/AndromedaNebula'', ''Heart of Serpent'' and ''Hour of the Bull'' all show us three consecutive eras of a communist utopia. However there is a FridgeLogic subversion once you realize parallels between Earth' Earth's society and that of Tormance, the {{dystopia}}n society that's introduced in the third book.



* The titular setting of ''Dinotopia'' is based around a peaceful coexistence between dinosaurs and humans. Except for the carnosaurs in the Rainy Basin, who are convinced to stay there by dying herbivores making a pilgrimage there to be eaten. And that one guy nobody likes who rants about how Dinotopia doesn't mean dinosaur utopia-it really means "terrible place". He gets points for his Greek knowledge, but he's still a dork. But he does have a NiceHat.

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* The titular setting of ''Dinotopia'' is based around a peaceful coexistence between dinosaurs and humans. Except for the carnosaurs in the Rainy Basin, who are convinced to stay there put by dying herbivores making a pilgrimage there to be eaten. And that one guy nobody likes who rants about how Dinotopia doesn't mean dinosaur utopia-it really means "terrible place". He gets points for his Greek knowledge, but he's still a dork.big jerk. But he does have a NiceHat.
23rd Jul '16 1:29:45 PM nombretomado
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* L. Neil Smith's ''The Probability Broach'' has his protagonist accidentally crossing over from a dystopian United States collapsing under a BigBrother government to an AlternateUniverse where North America is a highly advanced libertarian society.

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* L. Neil Smith's ''The Probability Broach'' has his protagonist accidentally crossing over from a dystopian United States collapsing under a BigBrother ShadowDictator government to an AlternateUniverse where North America is a highly advanced libertarian society.
19th Jun '16 2:59:27 PM MikeRosoft
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* TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}} is a utozzzSTREAMING [=INTERRUPTzzzzzok=]. sorry,alpha complex is a dystopia,fellow citizen. yeah i'm a secret soicety member.zzwhat?
** The preceding was broadcast by a seditious commie mutant traitor who has been executed. Alpha Complex is a perfect utopia kept in clockwork perfection by way of Friend Computer.
** Wait, if everything is perfect, why do we have commie mutant seditionists?
** QUESTIONING THE WILL OF FRIEND COMPUTER IS TREASON!! REQUEST PERMISSION TO TERMINATE!
** Request received. Termination forms will be delivered in three to five weeks.
** So, you gonna shoot me or what?
14th Jun '16 7:53:07 PM PaulA
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* ''[[Literature/LookingBackward Looking Backward: 2000-1887]]'' by Edward Bellamy (1888), one of the first American utopian novels, which described a socialist US in the year 2000. ''News From Nowhere'' by Willam Morris was a direct response, as he deemed it overly sterile and bureaucratic. Naturally, both works have their detractors.

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* ''[[Literature/LookingBackward Looking Backward: 2000-1887]]'' by Edward Bellamy (1888), one of the first American utopian novels, which described a socialist US in the year 2000. ''News From Nowhere'' ''Literature/NewsFromNowhere'' by Willam Morris was a direct response, as he deemed it overly sterile and bureaucratic. Naturally, both works have their detractors.
13th Mar '16 3:38:23 PM Morgenthaler
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* In the pilot of ''{{Sliders}}'', Quinn is visited by his double who says that he visited a Utopian world "Where no one was afraid".

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* In the pilot of ''{{Sliders}}'', ''Series/{{Sliders}}'', Quinn is visited by his double who says that he visited a Utopian world "Where no one was afraid".
23rd Feb '16 12:36:22 PM redandready45
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* [[TropeNamer The name comes from]] Sir UsefulNotes/ThomasMore 's book ''Utopia'', [[OlderThanSteam published in 1516]], which described a communal, agrarian state. However, More [[LampshadeHanging hung a lampshade]] on the entire idea with the title- "Outopia," in Greek, means roughly "no place" ("Ou," "not," and "topos," "place") while "Eutopia" translates into "good place" ("Eu", "good"), thus the common meaning for More's title. The pun was almost certainly intentional. The extent to which More's Utopia is actually [[{{Dystopia}} utopian]] is a matter of some debate-More actually made a point that [[BigBrotherIsWatching there is no privacy]] or [[DirtyCommunists private property]], slavery still exists ([[DisproportionateRetribution as a way of punishing adultery]]), and though all four of the religions are tolerated, atheists are not, as "obviously" without belief in a god or afterlife [[HollywoodAtheist they have no reason to be moral]] (the fact that they aren't actually killed or otherwise punished, however, but merely sent to speak with the priests to change their minds, is [[FairForItsDay very progressive for the era]]).

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* [[TropeNamer The name comes from]] Sir UsefulNotes/ThomasMore 's book ''Utopia'', [[OlderThanSteam published in 1516]], which described a communal, agrarian state. However, [[UnbuiltTrope However]], More [[LampshadeHanging hung a lampshade]] on the entire idea with the title- "Outopia," in Greek, means roughly "no place" ("Ou," "not," and "topos," "place") while "Eutopia" translates into "good place" ("Eu", "good"), thus the common meaning for More's title. The pun was almost certainly intentional. The extent to which More's Utopia is actually [[{{Dystopia}} utopian]] is a matter of some debate-More actually made a point that [[BigBrotherIsWatching there is no privacy]] or [[DirtyCommunists private property]], slavery still exists ([[DisproportionateRetribution as a way of punishing adultery]]), and though all four of the religions are tolerated, atheists are not, as "obviously" without belief in a god or afterlife [[HollywoodAtheist they have no reason to be moral]] (the fact that they aren't actually killed or otherwise punished, however, but merely sent to speak with the priests to change their minds, is [[FairForItsDay very progressive for the era]]).
22nd Jan '16 4:59:38 AM thatmadork
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->'''Lev Grossman''': Do you think of Literature/TheCulture as a utopia? Would you live in it, if you could?
->'''Creator/IainBanks''': Good grief yes, to both! What's not to like? ...Well, unless you're actually a fascist or a power junkie or sincerely believe that money rather than happiness is what really matters in life. And even people with those bizarre beliefs are catered for in the Culture, albeit in extreme-immersion VR environments.
-->-- [[http://techland.time.com/2008/02/29/iain_banks_the_matter_intervie/ This]] interview, ''Magazine/TimeMagazine''
29th Dec '15 4:21:12 AM Anddrix
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* This is also a long-standing WhatIf trope with SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom; whenever he actually manages to take over the world, he manages to change it into an honest to god utopia with minimal (not none, mind) removal of freedom. At the end of the day, the reason he never seems to get there in the main universe is because he's too obsessed with one-upping Reed Richards, that and he often finds VictoryIsBoring; it's a lot easier to conquer than it is to sustain, paradise or not.

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* This is also a long-standing WhatIf trope with SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom; Doctor Doom; whenever he actually manages to take over the world, he manages to change it into an honest to god utopia with minimal (not none, mind) removal of freedom. At the end of the day, the reason he never seems to get there in the main universe is because he's too obsessed with one-upping Reed Richards, that and he often finds VictoryIsBoring; it's a lot easier to conquer than it is to sustain, paradise or not.
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