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19th Sep '17 6:12:34 AM Allronix
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* The Franchise/{{Tron}} example below is {{Lampshaded}} and just as quickly {{Averted}} in ''Endgame Scenario.'' Tron refers to the User world as the "real" one, and [[VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh Jet]] bristles, firing back that the Program world is just as "real" as the human one.

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* The Franchise/{{Tron}} example below is {{Lampshaded}} and just as quickly {{Averted}} in ''Endgame Scenario.''[[http://archiveofourown.org/series/46436 Endgame Scenario]].'' Tron sarcastically refers to the User world as the "real" one, and [[VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh Jet]] bristles, firing back that the Program world is just as "real" as the human one.
18th Aug '17 11:45:04 AM BreadBull
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* ''Literature/TheNeverEndingStory'', both the book and the movies.
18th Aug '17 11:42:27 AM BreadBull
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* In the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' books, the Nac Mac Feegle know that there are multiple worlds, and are able to cross the borders. However, they believe themselves to be already dead, for the Discworld seems like paradise (to them). They drink, fight and steal as much as they can to enjoy their afterlives. They don't suspend all morals, but do act as if the Discworld is a disposable "temporary" world.
** Yeah, but we're given to understand that that's how they would have behaved in their "real" world as well. That's just what Feegles do.
** Also, Archchancellor Ridcully, while heading out to battle elves (with [[MillionToOneChance million-to-one odds]]), is told that, because of the whole multiverse thing, for every one Ridcully that survives the fight, 999,999 other Ridcullys will die. He responds, "Yes, but I'm not bothered about those other buggers. They can look after themselves." He's mostly just bitter they didn't invite him to their weddings, thanks to a disastrous earlier attempt to explain the concept to him.

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* In the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' books, the Nac Mac Feegle know that there are multiple worlds, and are able to cross the borders. However, they believe themselves to be already dead, for the Discworld seems like paradise (to them). They drink, fight and steal as much as they can to enjoy their afterlives. They don't suspend all morals, but do act as if the Discworld is a disposable "temporary" world.
** Yeah, but we're given to understand that that's how they would have behaved in their "real" world as well. That's just what Feegles do.
** Also,
Archchancellor Ridcully, while heading out to battle elves (with [[MillionToOneChance million-to-one odds]]), is told that, because of the whole multiverse thing, for every one Ridcully that survives the fight, 999,999 other Ridcullys will die. He responds, "Yes, but I'm not bothered about those other buggers. They can look after themselves." He's mostly just bitter they didn't invite him to their weddings, thanks to a disastrous earlier attempt to explain the concept to him.
25th Jul '17 7:09:59 AM Allronix
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* ''Film/{{Tron}}'' has onscreen text at one point saying "Meanwhile in the Real World." In dialog, the world of Users is only called "the Real World" by the Master Control Program, who exists in both worlds.

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* ''Film/{{Tron}}'' ''Franchise/{{Tron}}'' has onscreen text at one point saying "Meanwhile in the Real World." In dialog, the world of Users is only called "the Real World" by the Master Control Program, who exists in both worlds. However, the franchise likes to play with the trope.
** The [[Film/{{Tron}} first film]] was closer to a SaveBothWorlds plot as Master Control was trying to take over both sides of the Cold War and rule humanity with the same brutality he was inflicting on the Programs.


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** ''Film/TronLegacy'' plays it more explicitly. Sam experiences little that seems to be ''worth'' saving on The Grid, [[spoiler: aside from Quorra, who is implied to be part organic and therefore not JustAMachine]], and Flynn has all but given up on the Programs. So there's not a whole lot of effort put on trying to save anyone from Clu, just on making sure Clu doesn't carry out his plan to enforce his twisted idea of "perfection" on humanity.
** ''VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh'' swings it back to a straighter SaveBothWorlds, as [=fCon=] plans to invade and conquer the digital world as a way to control and rule the analog one, essentially inverting Master Control's plan from the first film. Jet's conclusion that the digital world is every bit as real and valid as the human one plays a large part in the spin-off comic, leading him into a HeroicBSOD when he thinks about the Programs he had to kill and the implications of what being a User means in that universe's context.
9th May '17 2:10:14 AM Sammettik
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaLinksAwakening'', the entire game takes place inside a dream, and the ultimate goal is to wake up the dreamer. Doing so will essentially result in [[DreamApocalypse the death of every inhabitant of the dream]]. The humans helping you on your journey? They just don't know any better. Those monsters trying to stop you? They're motivated ''purely by survival''. You've gotta KillEmAll to win the game.
1st May '17 11:19:55 AM Allronix
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* The Franchise/{{Tron}} example below is {{Lampshaded}} and just as quickly {{Averted}} in ''Endgame Scenario.'' Tron refers to the User world as the "real" one, and [[VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh Jet]] bristles, firing back that the Program world is just as "real" as the human one.
23rd Apr '17 9:07:36 AM nombretomado
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* Averted in the ''LightNovel/SuzumiyaHaruhi'' novels. In later books, Kyon [[spoiler: ends up in a timeline without time travellers, aliens or espers. He considers how selfish it is to want to change things back, that the people in the new timeline have just as much right to exist. He does it anyways, but often "wakes up late at night, with their faces in his mind."]]

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* Averted in the ''LightNovel/SuzumiyaHaruhi'' ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' novels. In later books, Kyon [[spoiler: ends up in a timeline without time travellers, aliens or espers. He considers how selfish it is to want to change things back, that the people in the new timeline have just as much right to exist. He does it anyways, but often "wakes up late at night, with their faces in his mind."]]
14th Feb '17 9:06:14 PM EdwardGil
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* HarryPotterAndTheCursedChild: Most of the characters (even those in the alternate timelines) acknowledge that the cannon timeline is worth returning to because it is in some way significantly better to that alternate one. Scorpius, however, clearly sees his original timeline as the "real" one, with the alternate timelines as mistakes to be "fixed". He makes the following distinction which, once you've already made a few time jumps, starts to seem a little shaky:

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* HarryPotterAndTheCursedChild: Most of the characters (even those in the alternate timelines) acknowledge that the cannon canon timeline is worth returning to because it is in some way significantly better to that alternate one. Scorpius, however, clearly sees his original timeline as the "real" one, with the alternate timelines as mistakes to be "fixed". He makes the following distinction which, once you've already made a few time jumps, starts to seem a little shaky:
14th Feb '17 6:53:09 PM DastardlyDemolition
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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' Part 7, the villain's stand has the power to visit parallel worlds and bring people from said parallel worlds to his world. He constantly refers to his initial world (the world where the plot takes place) as the ''root world'', he doesn't have any problems with killing people from the other worlds and [[spoiler: every time he's killed he has one of his alternate selves take his place, abducting him from his original world and overriding his memories with the villain's (apparently, his alternate selves don't have any problem with this)]]. He has a reason to think like that, since [[spoiler:the [[MacGuffin Holy Corpse]] only exists in the so called ''root world'']]

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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' Part 7, the villain's BigBad's stand has the power to visit parallel worlds and bring people from said parallel worlds to his world. He constantly refers to his initial world (the world where the plot takes place) as the ''root world'', he doesn't have any problems with killing people from the other worlds and [[spoiler: and every time he's killed he has one of his alternate selves take his place, abducting him from his original world and overriding his memories with the villain's (apparently, his alternate selves don't have any problem with this)]].this and if they do [[ExpendableAlternateUniverse it doesn't matter]]). He has a reason to think like that, since [[spoiler:the [[MacGuffin Holy Corpse]] only exists in the so called ''root world'']]
5th Sep '16 12:16:34 AM DeadSkunk
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* HarryPotterAndTheCursedChild: Most of the characters (even those in the alternate timelines) acknowledge that the cannon timeline is worth returning to because it is in some way significantly better to that alternate one. Scorpius, however, clearly sees his original timeline as the "real" one, with the alternate timelines as mistakes to be "fixed". He makes the following distinction which, once you've already made a few time jumps, starts to seem a little shaky:
--> '''Scorpio:''' "I was able to ask for help because I was in an alternate reality. We aren't. We're in the past."
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