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18th Apr '18 3:38:56 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'': Sam started acting like this in season 6, becoming a hunter [[TheUnfettered without any moral lines he wouldn't cross]] to catch a monster, such as using a hapless sheriff as bait then executing him after he's been infected with TheVirus, and [[ShootTheHostage shooting a woman who was being used as a human shield]]. His actions sicken both his brother Dean and their grandfather Samuel Campbell, both of whom [[PragmaticHero may stretch the rules a bit]] but still have ''some'' standards. It's eventually revealed that this change in character is because [[TheSoulless Sam has lost his soul]].
30th Mar '18 12:05:50 PM mariofan1000
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* Piccolo in ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' shows definite shades of this, including blowing up the moon to stop Vegeta and Nappa from being able to transform into Great Apes and distracting Super Buu by telling him to kill everyone on earth so that he could buy time for Trunks and Goten to train. (Granted, he did the latter knowing that [[DeathIsCheap they could be revived later on.]])
11th Mar '18 12:58:03 AM MadAnthony94
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* ''Possibly'' ComicBook/DocSavage as well. Earlier works would have him take criminals away to a secret lab where he'd, ah... turn them into productive members of society. This is probably just a matter of ScienceMarchesOn, though, as readers of the time didn't fully understand what the effects of a lobotomy really were.

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* ''Possibly'' ComicBook/DocSavage as well. Earlier works would have him take criminals away to a secret lab where he'd, ah... turn them into productive members of society. Surgically. This is probably just a matter of ScienceMarchesOn, though, as readers (readers of the time likely didn't fully understand what the effects of a lobotomy really were. lobotomies or their effects) but forcibly altering someone's behavior is still pretty out there by modern standards.
11th Mar '18 12:55:08 AM MadAnthony94
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* The Justice League in the world of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueGodsAndMonsters'' skirt between this and PragmaticHero. They have no qualms about killing, but will stray into even more questionable stuff like invading a foreign embassy to get at terrorists, or contemplate taking over the world as benevolent tyrants. And they ''still'' come off looking pretty heroic.



* The Justice League in the world of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueGodsAndMonsters'' skirt between this and PragmaticHero. They have no qualms about killing, but will stray into even more questionable stuff like invading a foreign embassy to get at terrorists, or contemplate taking over the world as {{Benevolent Tyrant}}s. And they ''still'' come off looking pretty heroic.
11th Mar '18 12:54:33 AM MadAnthony94
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* The Justice League in the world of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueGodsAndMonsters'' skirt between this and PragmaticHero. They have no qualms about killing, but will stray into even more questionable stuff like invading a foreign embassy to get at terrorists, or contemplate taking over the world as {{Benevolent Tyrant}}s. And they ''still'' come off looking pretty heroic.
11th Mar '18 12:50:32 AM MadAnthony94
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* [[ComicBook/{{Batman}} Jason Todd]], AKA Red Hood, formerly the second Robin. He's right on that line between a very unscrupulous hero and a fairly scrupulous villain. Like Huntress, he's happy to kill criminals as a first resort, but ([[WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood depending on the adaptation]]) he also believes that the best possible outcome, since ending crime for good is impossible, is for him or someone like him to take over the underworld and regulate it.


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* ''Radio/TheShadow'' is usually this. He'll not only kill criminals regardless of the immediate threat, but laugh madly while gunning them down. Then he'll do things like intimidate civilians into serving his cause (his RichIdiotWithNoDayJob alter ego? He's actually impersonating someone else he sent on an indefinite vacation [[note]] To be fair, some adaptations suggest that the guy was cool with it [[/note]]).
* ''Possibly'' ComicBook/DocSavage as well. Earlier works would have him take criminals away to a secret lab where he'd, ah... turn them into productive members of society. This is probably just a matter of ScienceMarchesOn, though, as readers of the time didn't fully understand what the effects of a lobotomy really were.
16th Feb '18 9:31:33 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Arya ultimately has a good heart, but is fully capable of murdering without a second thought and goes to absolutely ghastly lengths to secure vengeance for herself and her family. The only thing that keeps her from losing much sympathy is the fact that her enemies are, almost universally, ''colossal'' assholes. Really, as of the sixth season, she's basically the Westerosi answer to ComicBook/ThePunisher: a deadly, terrifying vigilante who would amount to little more than a SerialKiller if not for the fact that her enemies are far, ''far'' worse and absolutely deserving of a grisly end.

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Arya ultimately has a good heart, but is fully capable of murdering without a second thought and goes to absolutely ghastly lengths to secure vengeance for herself and her family. The only thing that keeps her from losing much sympathy is the fact that her enemies are, almost universally, ''colossal'' assholes. Really, as of the sixth season, she's basically the Westerosi answer to ComicBook/ThePunisher: a deadly, terrifying vigilante who would amount to little more than a SerialKiller if not for the fact that her enemies are far, ''far'' worse and absolutely deserving of a grisly end.end.
** Even at his least villainous, Sandor has no qualms with ruthless actions that benefit himself.
28th Sep '17 8:00:55 PM PaulA
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* Pocket in Creator/ChristopherMoore's ''Pocket the Fool'' novels. He is deeply cynical, sarcastic and bitter due to his childhood as an orphan and generally being treated like a slave by his master King Lear. However he is protective of [[MoralityChain Cordelia]] [[LoveRedeems whom he genuinely loves]] and has a sense of justice when it comes to other oppressed groups. That the latter also tends to go along with his acute sense of vengeance he finds very convenient.

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* Pocket in Creator/ChristopherMoore's ''Pocket the Fool'' novels.novels, beginning with ''Literature/{{Fool}}''. He is deeply cynical, sarcastic and bitter due to his childhood as an orphan and generally being treated like a slave by his master King Lear. However he is protective of [[MoralityChain Cordelia]] [[LoveRedeems whom he genuinely loves]] and has a sense of justice when it comes to other oppressed groups. That the latter also tends to go along with his acute sense of vengeance he finds very convenient.
17th Sep '17 2:23:34 PM Gemser
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* ''Film/TheWorldOfKanako'': Akikazu is completely merciless. He abuses his family, threatens and beats up witnesses and class mates of Kanako, fights with everyone who is in his way and forces [[spoiler:Kanako's teacher]] to give him the location where [[spoiler:she buried her]]. He's still better than other characters in the movie.
23rd Aug '17 3:16:23 AM PaulA
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* In ''[[Literature/ElementalMasters The Fire Rose]]'', Jason Cameron is pretty amoral. To the extent that he's a good person, it's because he takes CutLexLuthorACheck and PragmaticVillainy so far that they take him out of the "villain" sphere entirely; he's a philanthropist because that (used to) earn him street cred in his social circle, and because a well-fed proletariat work well and don't start riots. Likewise, he's known for fair business dealings because [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat he doesn't need to do anything shady]], but he doesn't especially care that his apprentice and agent gets his rocks off on rape and uses his magic to rig cockfights, except that they show him to be [[EvilIsPetty a complete tool]] and unfit to be a Master. [[spoiler: At least he develops genuine feelings of love for Rose at the end.]]

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* In ''[[Literature/ElementalMasters The Fire Rose]]'', ''Literature/TheFireRose'', Jason Cameron is pretty amoral. To the extent that he's a good person, it's because he takes CutLexLuthorACheck and PragmaticVillainy so far that they take him out of the "villain" sphere entirely; he's a philanthropist because that (used to) earn him street cred in his social circle, and because a well-fed proletariat work well and don't start riots. Likewise, he's known for fair business dealings because [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat he doesn't need to do anything shady]], but he doesn't especially care that his apprentice and agent gets his rocks off on rape and uses his magic to rig cockfights, except that they show him to be [[EvilIsPetty a complete tool]] and unfit to be a Master. [[spoiler: At [[spoiler:At least he develops genuine feelings of love for Rose at the end.]]
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