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5th Sep '17 8:11:20 PM GrammarNavi
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On the other hand, this ''can'' be justified, if only because the US is the only country (so far) to actually achieve manned spaceflight outside of Earth orbit, and the people who get there first will naturally set things up to their liking. The United States was established as a [[AmericanFederalism federal]] system, with protections for the rights of its constituent states combined with elements of direct representation of the people in the central government. Any democratic world government assembled from existing nations and not established by conquest would likely also take a similar federal form, either along presidential or [[UsefulNotes/CanadianPolitics parliamentary]] [[UsefulNotes/AustralianPolitics lines]].

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On the other hand, this ''can'' be justified, if only because the US is the only country (so far) to actually achieve manned spaceflight outside of Earth orbit, and the people who get there first will naturally set things up to their liking. The United States was established as a [[AmericanFederalism [[UsefulNotes/AmericanFederalism federal]] system, with protections for the rights of its constituent states combined with elements of direct representation of the people in the central government. Any democratic world government assembled from existing nations and not established by conquest would likely also take a similar federal form, either along presidential or [[UsefulNotes/CanadianPolitics parliamentary]] [[UsefulNotes/AustralianPolitics lines]].



* There's a plot-important election in the ''Literature/{{Lensman}}'' series, in which the proto-Lensmen are trying to get Rod "the Rock" Kinnison elected to what amounts to President of North America. It's ''explicitly stated'' that the only part of Earth that really matters is North America, the implication being that the other backwater regions will fall in line with whatever North America says. "North America" in this context is the post-WorldWarThree successor state to the United States but clearly has an AmericanFederalism style government.

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* There's a plot-important election in the ''Literature/{{Lensman}}'' series, in which the proto-Lensmen are trying to get Rod "the Rock" Kinnison elected to what amounts to President of North America. It's ''explicitly stated'' that the only part of Earth that really matters is North America, the implication being that the other backwater regions will fall in line with whatever North America says. "North America" in this context is the post-WorldWarThree successor state to the United States but clearly has an AmericanFederalism UsefulNotes/AmericanFederalism style government.
7th Aug '17 9:02:14 PM PaulA
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* The initial conflict in Creator/WilliamHKeithJr's ''Literature/GalacticMarines'' series is between the US and the UN (European-dominated) over the discovery of human remains in alien ruins on Mars. Despite the archaeological mission being funded and run by the US, the UN insists on attaching observers with a military escort. The observers than immediately want to hide the discovery until proper decisions can be made at the highest level. Meanwhile, the American archaeologists believe that a discovery of such magnitude must be revealed to the public. The different philosophies (common good vs. individual achievement) come into sharp conflict here, eventually resulting in a war with, of course, the US Marines coming out on top.

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* The initial conflict in Creator/WilliamHKeithJr's Creator/IanDouglas's ''Literature/GalacticMarines'' series is between the US and the UN (European-dominated) over the discovery of human remains in alien ruins on Mars. Despite the archaeological mission being funded and run by the US, the UN insists on attaching observers with a military escort. The observers than immediately want to hide the discovery until proper decisions can be made at the highest level. Meanwhile, the American archaeologists believe that a discovery of such magnitude must be revealed to the public. The different philosophies (common good vs. individual achievement) come into sharp conflict here, eventually resulting in a war with, of course, the US Marines coming out on top.
21st Jun '17 1:56:24 AM Nulono
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** Its also worth nothing, however, that while TheFederation is ruled by a President, its actually closer to a Parliamentary-style democratic republic rather than the one the US uses (the Presidental candidates are nominated directly by the Federation Council (the President in DS9 mentions he didn't even WANT the job, but got stuck with it through nomination) even though the final vote goes to the people) making the President more of a Prime Minister.

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** Its also worth nothing, however, that while TheFederation is ruled by a President, its actually closer to a Parliamentary-style democratic republic rather than the one the US uses (the Presidental candidates are nominated directly by the Federation Council (the President in DS9 [=DS9=] mentions he didn't even WANT the job, but got stuck with it through nomination) even though the final vote goes to the people) making the President more of a Prime Minister.
20th Jun '17 5:55:15 PM Occidensill
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** Goes to ridiculous levels when someone objects to Richard Nixon running for President, because he's already served two terms. Apparently President of the US and President of the Earth aren't just run similarly, they're the exact same thing.
20th Jun '17 3:42:50 AM Piterpicher
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* TheEmpire in the ''Section8'' series was born from the United States, and has forgotten its founding principles to become ruthlessly expansionist and oppressive.

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* TheEmpire in the ''Section8'' ''VideoGame/Section8'' series was born from the United States, and has forgotten its founding principles to become ruthlessly expansionist and oppressive.
14th May '17 5:22:33 PM nombretomado
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* The Terran Confederation of the early ''{{Traveller}}'' timeline as detailed in the volume ''Interstellar Wars'', though it's close enough to being TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture that the Confederation might literally be a futuristic offshoot of the United States.

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* The Terran Confederation of the early ''{{Traveller}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}'' timeline as detailed in the volume ''Interstellar Wars'', though it's close enough to being TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture that the Confederation might literally be a futuristic offshoot of the United States.



* Subverted in the RPG Traveller:2300 (which, confusingly, is not in the same franchise universe as ''{{Traveller}}'', despite being published by the same company [Game Developers Workshop]; later on it was renamed simply "2300AD"). The "universe" of Traveller:2300 was developed by the game designers actually gaming out future history. In that game, it was France that dominated, and so emerged as the major interstellar power.

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* Subverted in the RPG Traveller:2300 (which, confusingly, is not in the same franchise universe as ''{{Traveller}}'', ''TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}'', despite being published by the same company [Game Developers Workshop]; later on it was renamed simply "2300AD"). The "universe" of Traveller:2300 was developed by the game designers actually gaming out future history. In that game, it was France that dominated, and so emerged as the major interstellar power.
29th Apr '17 8:24:10 PM Yalsaris63
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* VideoGame/Stellaris has two AI personalities that represent this. Federation Builders seek to make allies and combine multiple strengths of races without subjugating any of them and have a feel of a StarTrek style Federation. Democratic Crusaders wish to bring Democracy to the Galaxy and will be hostile to any empire that does not have a democratic government.

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* VideoGame/Stellaris ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}}'' has two AI personalities that represent this. Federation Builders seek to make allies and combine multiple strengths of races without subjugating any of them and have a feel of a StarTrek style Federation. Democratic Crusaders wish to bring Democracy to the Galaxy and will be hostile to any empire that does not have a democratic government.
20th Mar '17 7:22:06 AM hszmv1
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* VideoGame/Stellaris has two AI personalities that represent this. Federation Builders seek to make allies and combine multiple strengths of races without subjugating any of them and have a feel of a StarTrek style Federation. Democratic Crusaders wish to bring Democracy to the Galaxy and will be hostile to any empire that does not have a democratic government.
8th Sep '16 3:36:30 AM Gerusz
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* Averted in ''Literature/TheJenkinsverse'': while the private corporations exploiting space are mostly American, the first human colony is a Brit-influenced liberal utopia, and the majority of the human spacefleet consists of British-made V-Class destroyers, with the American-made San Diego class cruisers still being under construction in 10 AV.
11th Aug '16 9:26:55 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** Culturally, humanity's various worlds tend to be impressively diverse, while the UEG/UNSC itself tends to be more American. On one hand, English is the UNSC's "national" language, spoken by all the main characters in the games, and the main cast tends to be white or black with names like John, Avery, Jameson, Edward, etc. (though the UNSC's current two most powerful leaders are British and Turkish). On the other hand, even Earth itself is shown to have remained quite culturally diverse (for example, the Mombasa public service announcements heard in ''VideoGame/{{Halo 2}}'' are all in Swahili), and the colonies often have cultures that aren't American in the least bit. Even Reach, the UNSC's second most important planet, has a significant portion of its population who speak Hungarian as a first language (in fact, the planet was originally settled by Hungarians, hence why most of Reach's locations and even its moons have Hungarian names); at the beginning of ''VideoGame/HaloReach'', Jorge is the only member of Noble Team able to speak to the local civilians because they don't know English and he's the only one on the team who can speak Hungarian (being a Reach native himself). In part because of this diversity, the colonies heavily resent the UNSC, which overthrew of the Colonial Administration Authority which had previously administered them.

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** Culturally, humanity's various worlds tend to be impressively diverse, while the UEG/UNSC itself tends to be more American. On one hand, English is the UNSC's "national" language, spoken by all the main characters in the games, and the main cast tends to be white or black with names like John, Avery, Jameson, Edward, etc. (though the UNSC's current two most powerful leaders are British and Turkish). On the other hand, even Earth itself is shown to have remained quite culturally diverse (for example, the Mombasa public service announcements heard in ''VideoGame/{{Halo 2}}'' are all in Swahili), and the colonies often have cultures that aren't American in the least bit. Even Reach, the UNSC's second most important planet, has a significant portion of its population who speak Hungarian as a first language (in fact, the planet was originally settled by Hungarians, hence why most of Reach's locations and even its moons have Hungarian names); at the beginning of ''VideoGame/HaloReach'', Jorge is the only member of Noble Team able to speak to the local civilians because they don't know English and he's the only one on the team who can speak Hungarian (being a Reach native himself). In part because of this diversity, the colonies heavily resent the UNSC, which overthrew of the Colonial Administration Authority which that had previously administered them.
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