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25th Jul '16 1:07:45 PM Willbyr
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** During the Dressrosa Arc, Franky's fight against Señor Pink is hilarious as the two ridiculously dressed fighters behave like stereotypical manly men to the awe of the watching crowd while dressed like perverts and using attacks like nipple-mounted flashlights and diaper bombs. At the end of the battle, Franky has a CrowningMomentOfAwesome where he tanks Señor Pink's best attack and Señor Pink, as per their manly agreement, lets Franky beat him unconscious. However, just before Señor Pink lands his final attack, he has a flashback relating the story about how he had a pirate hating wife (who didn't know that he was a pirate) whom he adored and a son that died, leading to her running out in the rain when she realized that he was lying about being a banker (and had not been there when their son died because of whatever he was actually doing), resulting in her getting caught in a landslide and being rendered catatonic, only ever smiling whenever Señor Pink dressed like a baby because he looked like their dead son so he started dressing like a baby all the time because he only ever cared about making her smile, which is apparently supposed to make him look sympathetic. However, in some jurisdictions what he did to her would have been a rather long running case of rape by deception, as she wouldn't have dated him, much less slept with him or married him if she knew that he was a pirate. To make matters worse, he is one of the completely loyal Executive Officers of one of the vilest pirates in all of OnePiece, wholeheartedly helping out with fratricide, arms dealing, mass murder, slave trading rings, etc... and had missed out on his son's death because he was working with said pirate. And even after his double life caused him to lose his beloved wife and child, he again only makes the most superficial efforts to make her smile without ever addressing the actual cause of her grievance by wandering around dressed like a baby even when he's not in front of her, while still helping his crew pull off completely new levels of NightmareFuel, adding usurping a benevolent royal family, mind raping an entire nation, and mass producing weapons of mass destruction which they sell to the highest bidder. When Franky beat him unconscious during their duel, his last thoughts are to emphatically apologize to his boss for failing his task... which was to prevent their WMD facilities from being destroyed by Franky and the enslaved dwarfs who had been tricked into producing them.

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** During the Dressrosa Arc, Franky's fight against Señor Pink is hilarious as the two ridiculously dressed fighters behave like stereotypical manly men to the awe of the watching crowd while dressed like perverts and using attacks like nipple-mounted flashlights and diaper bombs. At the end of the battle, Franky has a CrowningMomentOfAwesome where he tanks Señor Pink's best attack and Señor Pink, as per their manly agreement, lets Franky beat him unconscious. However, just before Señor Pink lands his final attack, he has a flashback relating the story about how he had a pirate hating wife (who didn't know that he was a pirate) whom he adored and a son that died, leading to her running out in the rain when she realized that he was lying about being a banker (and had not been there when their son died because of whatever he was actually doing), resulting in her getting caught in a landslide and being rendered catatonic, only ever smiling whenever Señor Pink dressed like a baby because he looked like their dead son so he started dressing like a baby all the time because he only ever cared about making her smile, which is apparently supposed to make him look sympathetic. However, in some jurisdictions what he did to her would have been a rather long running case of rape by deception, as she wouldn't have dated him, much less slept with him or married him if she knew that he was a pirate. To make matters worse, he is one of the completely loyal Executive Officers of one of the vilest pirates in all of OnePiece, ''Manga/OnePiece'', wholeheartedly helping out with fratricide, arms dealing, mass murder, slave trading rings, etc... and had missed out on his son's death because he was working with said pirate. And even after his double life caused him to lose his beloved wife and child, he again only makes the most superficial efforts to make her smile without ever addressing the actual cause of her grievance by wandering around dressed like a baby even when he's not in front of her, while still helping his crew pull off completely new levels of NightmareFuel, adding usurping a benevolent royal family, mind raping an entire nation, and mass producing weapons of mass destruction which they sell to the highest bidder. When Franky beat him unconscious during their duel, his last thoughts are to emphatically apologize to his boss for failing his task... which was to prevent their WMD facilities from being destroyed by Franky and the enslaved dwarfs who had been tricked into producing them.
24th Jul '16 11:20:02 AM Nakayama90
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* Batgirl in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheKillingJoke''. The prologue featuring Batgirl does very little to make her sympathetic, despite the writers' claims that it makes her a stronger character. Her character arc [[spoiler:revolves around her pining after Batman and then acting like a jilted lover. She irrationally attacks a man arguing with his girlfriend. And she displays very little of the independence and heroism often associated with the character, instead coming off like a thrill-seeking StalkerWithACrush.]]]] It doesn't help that personality-wise, she has [[InNameOnly nothing in common with her comic or TV counterparts]].
23rd Jul '16 8:43:14 AM SatoshiBakura
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* Seto Kaiba from ''Anime/YuGiOh''. He was an orphan who had to raise his brother Mokuba until they were adopted by Gozaburo Kaiba, who was an abusive bastard that made Seto's life hell and threatened to send him back to the orphanage if he failed a birthday test of his business skills. The series constantly emphasizes Kaiba is a BrokenAce filled with hate, he has no friends outside of his brother Mokuba, and his childhood was a nightmare. Yet in the present, he's the rich CEO of a multi-national company, is a complete JerkJock when it comes to Duel Monsters, is an all-around {{Jerkass}} when it comes to his interactions with anyone except Mokuba, and he makes it clear several times he doesn't want friends anyway, because the main cast repeatedly reaches out to him and are insulted or ignored. In the original manga, he even tries to have Yugi and his friend killed by convicted serial killers, [[DisproportionateRetribution just because he lost to a children's card game]] [[SoreLoser that he attempted to cheat in]]. Not to say it completely backfire: he still [[DracoInLeatherPants garnered the most diehard fanbase of the franchise who often sympathized with him the most]], yet also admired [[AwesomeEgo his sheer audacity]].
22nd Jul '16 6:46:52 AM matruz
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* Yet another Christian film ''Film/AMatterOfFaith'' does the same with the Bible-believing creationist father, Stephen, he is presented as the usual Christian Hero fighting against the evils of "The Myth of Evolution" by protesting its teaching in his daughter's college. However he goes behind his daughter's back to question her biology teacher, something she is incredibly embarrassed by, tries to enforce his belief into a class that has nothing to do with it, and practically guilt trips his own daughter to fully accept his religion again based on feelings rather than facts.

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* Yet another Christian film ''Film/AMatterOfFaith'' does the same with the ''Film/AMatterOfFaith'':
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Bible-believing creationist father, Stephen, he is presented as the usual Christian Hero fighting against the evils of "The Myth of Evolution" by protesting its teaching in his daughter's college. However he goes behind his daughter's back to question her biology teacher, something she is incredibly embarrassed by, tries to enforce force his belief into a class that has nothing to do with it, and practically guilt trips his own daughter to into fully accept his religion beliefs again based on feelings rather than facts.facts.
** The film attempts to portray the actions of the creationist characters as exposing the pro-evolution biology teacher of having an agenda of corrupting students away from God, however through the film it's clear that he's just doing his job of teaching the theory of evolution as accepted by the scientific community, and it comes off instead as them trying to force their beliefs into the public education system.
22nd Jul '16 6:10:16 AM SatoshiBakura
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22nd Jul '16 5:39:16 AM matruz
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* Yet another Christian film ''Film/AMatterOfFaith'' does the same with the Bible-believing creationist father, Stephen, he is presented as the usual Christian Hero fighting against the evils of "The Myth of Evolution" by protesting its teaching in his daughter's college. However he goes behind his daughter's back to question her biology teacher, something she is incredibly embarrassed by, tries to enforce his belief into a class that has nothing to do with it, and practically guilt trips his own daughter to fully accept his religion again based on feelings rather than facts.
20th Jul '16 7:52:34 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* [[BigBad Sunset Shimmer]] from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' transformed into a demon, brainwashed Canterlot High, and tried to murder those in her way. This was meant to be [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide her being corrupted into something]] much worse [[EvenEvilHasStandards than she was normally willing to act]]: thus her shock, horror, revulsion, and HeelFaceTurn after her defeat. But, while she never used physical violence before her transformation (and in one crucial scene let Spike go, when the obvious thing to do was to try a HostageForMcGuffin), she had been an AlphaBitch through the whole movie, and she had been like that for quite a while before then, as [[BigGood Princess Celestia]] indicated in the movie and as her origin-story comic confirmed; her potential for change, and such of a good side as she had, was mostly in subtext. So, the fanbase as a whole was less than convinced, and [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation not a few fans suspected that she was faking remorse to get off easier]]. But in the next movie, ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks Rainbow Rocks]]'', the rest of the school was just as unforgiving as the fanbase, [[ReformedButRejected or worse]]; even the principal took snide little potshots at her. [[TheAtoner But she pushed on through this]], [[AuthorsSavingThrow proving that she was sincere and now trustworthy]], and winning over the audience -- although the student body remains a little leery, at least as of ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames Friendship Games]]''. (The latter movie also confirmed that she had [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity gone mad in her demon form]] -- [[spoiler: and gave her a chance to pay her cleansing forward]].)

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* [[BigBad Sunset Shimmer]] Shimmer's]] EvilPlan from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' transformed ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls''resulted in her [[BigRedDevil transforming into a demon, brainwashed demon]], brainwashing Canterlot High, and tried to murder those in her way. This was meant to be [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide her being corrupted into something]] much worse [[EvenEvilHasStandards than she was normally willing to act]]: act]]; thus her shock, horror, revulsion, and HeelFaceTurn after her defeat. But, while she never used physical violence before her transformation (and in one crucial scene let prior ([[PetTheDog even letting Spike go, go]] when the obvious thing to do was to try could have pulled a HostageForMcGuffin), she had been an AlphaBitch through the whole movie, movie; and she had been like that for quite a while before then, as according to [[BigGood Princess Celestia]] indicated in the movie and as her origin-story comic confirmed; comic, had been so for quite a while before then. Thus, most found her potential for change, and such deservingness of a good side as she had, was mostly in subtext. So, the fanbase as a whole was less than convinced, forgiveness lacking, and [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation not a few fans many suspected that she was faking remorse to get off easier]]. But in the next movie, ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks Rainbow Rocks]]'', the rest of the school was just as unforgiving as the fanbase, unforgiving, [[ReformedButRejected or worse]]; even the principal took snide little potshots at her. [[TheAtoner But she pushed on through this]], [[AuthorsSavingThrow proving that she was sincere and now trustworthy]], and winning over the audience -- although the student body remains a little leery, at least as of with ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames Friendship Games]]''. (The latter movie also confirmed Games]]'' making explicit that she had [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity gone mad in her demon form]] -- [[spoiler: and gave her a chance to pay her cleansing forward]].)form]].
20th Jul '16 7:17:30 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Jane, at least in the final episode. Here, [[IdiotBall she makes her most bone-headed moves,]] which is strange for someone who survived this long. While Kenny becomes more dangerous over the course of the Season, Jane crosses the line by [[spoiler: a) [[BullyingADragon repeatedly bringing up his dead family during their fight in the truck]], b) instead of making amends, [[WhatTheHellHero she FAKES AJ'S DEATH to "show Clementine his true nature"]], and then c) during her fight with Kenny, she expects to be saved (depending on the player's viewpoint, she might).]]

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** Jane, at least in the final episode. Here, [[IdiotBall she makes her most bone-headed moves,]] which is strange for someone who survived this long. While Kenny becomes more dangerous over the course of the Season, Jane crosses the line by [[spoiler: a) [[BullyingADragon repeatedly bringing up his dead family during their fight in the truck]], b) instead of making amends, [[WhatTheHellHero she FAKES AJ'S DEATH to "show Clementine his true nature"]], nature", and then c) during her fight with Kenny, she expects to be saved (depending on the player's viewpoint, she might).]]
15th Jul '16 5:11:13 PM ThomasVeggieDramaFan
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** In "Roasted Guy", Peter wishes to have a roast, but gets insulted by his friends, and becomes friends with three women. He then gets back at them when he finds out they insult him behind his back. The audience is expected to sympathize with Peter for being insulted even though he knows full well what a roast is and specifically asks his friends not to hold back, and we're apparently supposed to see his payback as justified even though all they did was insult him.

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** In "Roasted Guy", Peter wishes to have a roast, but gets insulted by his friends, and becomes friends with three women. He then gets back at them when he finds out they insult him behind his back. The audience is expected to sympathize with Peter for being insulted even though he knows full well what a roast is and specifically asks told his friends not to hold back, "Leave no punches", and we're apparently supposed to see his payback towards the girls (which included paying a busboy to stab the groom for Karen's daughter on her wedding night) as justified even though [[DisproportionateRetribution all they did was insult him.him]].



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14th Jul '16 2:47:58 PM FlyingDuckManGenesis
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' episode, "[[Recap/TheLoudHouseS1E11ButterflyEffectTheGreenHouse The Green House]]", [[UpToEleven every single character]] falls victim to this;
** Mrs. Johnson and Lincoln's class for chastising Lincoln's family's energy usage in the red zone when they know he has ten sisters.
** The Loud House's red zone isn't just because the Loud Family is big, but because all ten of the Loud sisters are wasting energy, usually for frivolous purposes such as Lori talking to Bobby on multiple electronic devices, Leni turning on the bathroom water without even using it, or Luan baking multiple pies just to throw them at herself or other people, which also wastes food. This forces Lincoln to help them find other, less energy-wasting solutions.
** Clyde for not helping Lincoln with his energy-saving goal and arguably making his situation worse by mentioning their computer game tournament.
** Two of the boys from Lincoln's class decide to join in the tournament at Lincoln's house because they're in the green, effectively saving energy at their own homes just to waste someone else's energy and tell Lincoln they can't be seen with him when the girls resume their old energy-wasting ways.
** And finally, Lincoln himself for [[ExtremeDoormat not having the guts to kick the other boys out of his house]].
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