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29th Sep '16 3:00:26 PM SirBread
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* Thor himself in Film/{{Thor}} fits this. The audience is meant to sympathize with his being thrown out of Asgard for his arrogance, but since he brought this on himself by literally starting an interdimensional war, it's hard to actually relate. Contrast with Loki, who may as well be the actual protagonist of the film - his adoptive brother is clearly irresponsible beyond reason, and his entire family has been hiding his heritage from him for literal centuries. His actions still aren't justified, but they're much more understandable than the Odinson's.
28th Sep '16 5:32:01 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Patroklos in ''VideoGame/SoulCalibur V'' is shown to be a self-righteous, sociopathic racist who remorselessly murders an innocent man in the opening cutscene of the game. He's also supposed to be [[DesignatedHero the protagonist]]. You're supposed to feel sorry for him because his mother is dead and his sister was abducted since childhood. His relationship with Pyyhra is supposed to be his redeemable trait, but that even gets thrown out the window when he finds out [[spoiler: she's the bearer of the Soul Edge]]. He runs away from their battle and vows to kill her if he ever saw her again. There's a reason why Patroklos is the biggest Scrappy in not only the franchise, but video games in general.

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* Patroklos in ''VideoGame/SoulCalibur V'' is shown to be a self-righteous, sociopathic racist who remorselessly murders an innocent man in the opening cutscene of the game. He's also supposed to be [[DesignatedHero the protagonist]]. You're supposed to feel sorry for him because his mother is dead and his sister was abducted since childhood. His relationship with Pyyhra is supposed to be his redeemable trait, but that even gets thrown out the window when he finds out [[spoiler: she's the bearer of the Soul Edge]]. He runs away from their battle and vows to kill her if he ever saw her again. There's a reason why Patroklos is the biggest Scrappy in not only the franchise, but video games in general.
28th Sep '16 12:22:36 PM Animeking1108
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* Aoba Kuronuma from ''LightNovel/{{Durarara}}.'' He's meant to be sympathized with because [[BigBrotherBully Izumii]] used to hit him out of envy for their parents attention. While Izumii is second only to Izaya to being [[TheSociopath the farthest thing from a saint]] in the series, Aoba comes off as being just as bad as Izumii when he sets his room on fire just to get him beaten by their abusive father. Not helping matters is that the anime tones down Izumii's abuse towards Aoba, so it makes that act seem more like DisproportionateRetribution. His backstory doesn't justify [[spoiler: manipulating Mikado and causing him to JumpOffTheSlipperySlope]].


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* Patroklos in ''VideoGame/SoulCalibur V'' is shown to be a self-righteous, sociopathic racist who remorselessly murders an innocent man in the opening cutscene of the game. He's also supposed to be [[DesignatedHero the protagonist]]. You're supposed to feel sorry for him because his mother is dead and his sister was abducted since childhood. His relationship with Pyyhra is supposed to be his redeemable trait, but that even gets thrown out the window when he finds out [[spoiler: she's the bearer of the Soul Edge]]. He runs away from their battle and vows to kill her if he ever saw her again. There's a reason why Patroklos is the biggest Scrappy in not only the franchise, but video games in general.
24th Sep '16 11:09:58 AM ImpudentInfidel
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* [[OurElvesAreDifferent The deer]] from ''The Root Of The Problem'' of ''ComicBooks/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW'', despite losing their home to a genuinely evil construction company, garnered close to zero sympathy from the audience as their means of fighting back was unleashing [[DisproportionateRetribution all]] [[WhenTreesAttack Hell]] on towns and cities full of ponies that had absolutely ''nothing'' to do with the company. Some fans were actually [[RootingForTheEmpire cheering on the construction company]] believing at this point that the deer ''[[ScrewYouElves deserve]]'' to lose their home, and even those who are still on the side of the deer hoped it at least ended with ''them'' learning the aesop. [[spoiler:[[CantArgueWithElves It doesn't.]]]]

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* [[OurElvesAreDifferent The deer]] from ''The Root Of The Problem'' of ''ComicBooks/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW'', despite losing their home to a genuinely evil construction company, garnered close to zero sympathy from the audience as their means of fighting back was unleashing [[DisproportionateRetribution all]] [[WhenTreesAttack Hell]] on towns and cities full of ponies that had absolutely ''nothing'' to do with the company.company (while inexplicably leaving the company and construction site itself completely unmolested). Some fans were actually [[RootingForTheEmpire cheering on the construction company]] believing at this point that the deer ''[[ScrewYouElves deserve]]'' to lose their home, and even those who are still on the side of the deer hoped it at least ended with ''them'' learning the aesop. [[spoiler:[[CantArgueWithElves It doesn't.]]]]
22nd Sep '16 9:30:14 PM nombretomado
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* In ''Film/TheBirthOfANation'', Austin Stoneman's horrified reaction to Silas wanting to marry his daughter is intended to be an EvenEvilHasStandards moment but to modern audiences it actually makes him seem worse by revealing him to be a gigantic hypocrite.

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* In ''Film/TheBirthOfANation'', ''Film/{{The Birth of a Nation|1915}}'', Austin Stoneman's horrified reaction to Silas wanting to marry his daughter is intended to be an EvenEvilHasStandards moment but to modern audiences it actually makes him seem worse by revealing him to be a gigantic hypocrite.
18th Sep '16 9:06:21 PM waters20
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* Also, in "Dial Meg For Murder", Meg, after her long stay in prison, becomes rebellious and ruthless. When she returns home, she beats up Peter and even ''rapes him in the shower''. Yet despite that, considering how Peter has treated Meg in episodes prior to this, ain't no way he's earning any sympathy from the viewers.

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* ** Also, in "Dial Meg For Murder", Meg, after her long stay in prison, becomes rebellious and ruthless. When she returns home, she beats up Peter and even ''rapes him in the shower''. Yet despite that, considering how Peter has treated Meg in episodes prior to this, ain't no way he's earning any sympathy from the viewers.
18th Sep '16 9:05:32 PM waters20
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* Oberon from ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' may never been intented to be a sympathic character to begin with, but he come across as such a [[JerkassGods conceited, impulsive dick]] that he becomes [[RonTheDeathEater much more hated character than he was intented to be]], to the point that [[http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=3161 Greg Weisman had to defend and explain Oberon actions in The Gathering]].

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* Also, in "Dial Meg For Murder", Meg, after her long stay in prison, becomes rebellious and ruthless. When she returns home, she beats up Peter and even ''rapes him in the shower''. Yet despite that, considering how Peter has treated Meg in episodes prior to this, ain't no way he's earning any sympathy from the viewers.
* Oberon from ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' may never been intented intended to be a sympathic sympathetic character to begin with, but he come across as such a [[JerkassGods conceited, impulsive dick]] that he becomes [[RonTheDeathEater much more hated character than he was intented to be]], to the point that [[http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=3161 Greg Weisman had to defend and explain Oberon actions in The Gathering]].
18th Sep '16 1:41:51 AM waters20
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''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'': Let's face it. Of all the times Vicky has tortured Timmy and has even laughed at his pain and embarrassment, are we really supposed to sympathize with her when she finally gets a taste of her own medicine in the episode where she regresses to a five-year-old while Timmy supplants her position as the babysitter? Also, keep in mind that her treatment towards Timmy is DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale that's even ''PlayedForLaughs''. So it's only fair that Vicky shares Timmy's treatment.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'': Let's face it. Of all the times Vicky has tortured Timmy and has even laughed at his pain and embarrassment, are we really supposed to sympathize with her when she finally gets a taste of her own medicine in the episode where she regresses to a five-year-old while Timmy supplants her position as the babysitter? Also, keep in mind that her treatment towards Timmy is DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale that's even ''PlayedForLaughs''. So it's only fair that Vicky shares Timmy's treatment.
18th Sep '16 1:40:40 AM waters20
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''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'': Let's face it. Of all the times Vicky has tortured Timmy and has even laughed at his pain and embarrassment, are we really supposed to sympathize with her when she finally gets a taste of her own medicine in the episode where she regresses to a five-year-old while Timmy supplants her position as the babysitter? Also, keep in mind that her treatment towards Timmy is DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale that's even ''PlayedForLaughs''. So it's only fair that Vicky shares Timmy's treatment.
17th Sep '16 1:14:05 PM WJTaylor4
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** And then there's Bataar Jr. [[spoiler:He was more than happy to help Kuvira take over the Earth Kingdom and was more than happy to disown his family to get what he wanted, but we're supposed to feel bad for him after he defects from Kuvira and goes back to his family, whining to mommy Suyin about his brothers not liking him anymore for his crimes against them and the Earth Kingdom. Suyin forgives him despite the fact that he's equally guilty of terrible crimes and only defected from Kuvira when he realized that ultimately things were not going to end in his favor. At best he was a jerk and at worst he's shown to be a DirtyCoward, and Suyin being so quick to forgive him while being a petty bully towards a spiritually broken and genuinely regretful Kuvira reflects badly on her as well.]]

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** And then there's Bataar Jr. [[spoiler:He was more than happy to help Kuvira take over the Earth Kingdom and was more than happy to disown his family to get what he wanted, but we're supposed to feel bad for him after he defects from Kuvira and goes back to his family, whining to mommy Suyin about his brothers not liking him anymore for his crimes against them and the Earth Kingdom. Suyin forgives him despite the fact that he's equally guilty of terrible crimes and only defected from Kuvira when he realized that ultimately things were not going to end in his favor. At best he was a jerk and at worst he's shown to be a DirtyCoward, and Suyin being so quick to forgive him while being a petty bully towards a spiritually broken and genuinely regretful Kuvira reflects badly on her as well.]]]] That the audience never really got to know Bataar Jr. in season three certainly doesn't help him his case.
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