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10th Dec '17 11:12:35 AM nombretomado
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* [[DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney]] is famous for its sweetness-and-light approach to children's entertainment; in fact, sometimes they [[{{Disneyfication}} overdo it.]] The actual Disney company, however, [[StepfordSmiler hides sharp teeth behind]] that [[SickeninglySweet saccharine smile]]. Just ask anyone who's ever been in a legal battle with the company, or look up what good ol' Walt himself did to staff (and trade unions) that crossed him (though given the whole reason [[ScrewedByTheLawyers the Disney Company got started]]...). This can come as a bit of a shock to those who see Disney as a guardian of childhood and fair play.

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* [[DisneyAnimatedCanon [[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney]] is famous for its sweetness-and-light approach to children's entertainment; in fact, sometimes they [[{{Disneyfication}} overdo it.]] The actual Disney company, however, [[StepfordSmiler hides sharp teeth behind]] that [[SickeninglySweet saccharine smile]]. Just ask anyone who's ever been in a legal battle with the company, or look up what good ol' Walt himself did to staff (and trade unions) that crossed him (though given the whole reason [[ScrewedByTheLawyers the Disney Company got started]]...). This can come as a bit of a shock to those who see Disney as a guardian of childhood and fair play.
23rd Nov '17 11:30:36 PM animenutcase
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* [[DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney]] is famous for its sweetness-and-light approach to children's entertainment; in fact, sometimes they [[{{Disneyfication}} overdo it.]] The actual Disney company, however, [[StepfordSmiler hides sharp teeth behind]] that [[SickeninglySweet saccharine smile]]. Just ask anyone who's ever been in a legal battle with the company, or look up what good ol' Walt himself did to staff (and trade unions) that crossed him. This can come as a bit of a shock to those who see Disney as a guardian of childhood and fair play.

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* [[DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney]] is famous for its sweetness-and-light approach to children's entertainment; in fact, sometimes they [[{{Disneyfication}} overdo it.]] The actual Disney company, however, [[StepfordSmiler hides sharp teeth behind]] that [[SickeninglySweet saccharine smile]]. Just ask anyone who's ever been in a legal battle with the company, or look up what good ol' Walt himself did to staff (and trade unions) that crossed him.him (though given the whole reason [[ScrewedByTheLawyers the Disney Company got started]]...). This can come as a bit of a shock to those who see Disney as a guardian of childhood and fair play.
7th Oct '17 4:02:56 PM WaveSwallow
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29th Sep '17 7:21:11 AM ClintEastwood
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* After the movie ''Film/ThreeHundred'' was released, almost every fitness and weight loss company used it as a piece of their marketing strategy toward men. ("Look like the men of ''300''!") However, when you look at the TrainingFromHell they endure and the fact that Gerard Butler developed a problem with painkillers from the abuse his body took and even had to check into rehab (although it wasn't just the training, there was also the typical abuse any actor in an action film must endure), maybe ''300'' isn't the best movie to reference. (It's telling that most of the companies have switched over to Captain America and Thor from ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''.)
* In ''Film/{{Dreamgirls}}'', Effie White is the lead singer and most talented member of the Dreams, but their corrupt manager Curtis demotes her to backup singer in favor of Deena Jones, who is more marketable. This is unambiguously presented as a Jerk Ass move on Curtis's part, and it ruins Effie's life. Then, in the movie version of Dreamgirls, Jennifer Hudson played Effie, the lead character of the movie, but the studio designated her a "supporting actress" and gave top billing to Beyonce Knowles (playing Deena), who is more famous. Then again, Hudson won an Oscar for her performance (for Best Supporting Actress; had she been nominated for Lead Actress, she likely would have been blown out by Helen Mirren), while Knowles only got a Golden Globe nomination that most people assumed her manager father bought for her, so perhaps it averages out.

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* After the movie ''Film/ThreeHundred'' was released, almost every fitness and weight loss company used it as a piece of their marketing strategy toward men. ("Look like the men of ''300''!") However, when you look at the TrainingFromHell they endure and the fact that Gerard Butler Creator/GerardButler developed a problem with painkillers from the abuse his body took and even had to check into rehab (although it wasn't just the training, there was also the typical abuse any actor in an action film must endure), maybe ''300'' isn't the best movie to reference. (It's telling that most of the companies have switched over to Captain America and Thor from ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''.)
* In ''Film/{{Dreamgirls}}'', Effie White is the lead singer and most talented member of the Dreams, but their corrupt manager Curtis demotes her to backup singer in favor of Deena Jones, who is more marketable. This is unambiguously presented as a Jerk Ass {{Jerkass}} move on Curtis's part, and it ruins Effie's life. Then, in the movie version of Dreamgirls, version, Jennifer Hudson played Effie, the lead character of the movie, but the studio designated her a "supporting actress" and gave top billing to Beyonce Music/{{Beyonce}} Knowles (playing Deena), who is more famous. Then again, Hudson won an Oscar for her performance (for Best Supporting Actress; had she been nominated for Lead Actress, she likely would have been blown out by Helen Mirren), while Knowles only got a Golden Globe nomination that most people assumed her manager father bought for her, so perhaps it averages out.
22nd Sep '17 2:34:37 AM Byzantine
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* A much darker example. "Pack Up Your Troubles" ("in your old kit bag and smile, smile, smile") is known as one of the most optimistic songs ever written. Its writer, George Henry Powell, later committed suicide. The context of the song and the suicide, however, are different. He wrote the song in 1915, when 35-years-old, with the explicit intent to raise moral for the British troops during WorldWarI. And it worked. Powell may have committed suicide in 1951, when 71-years-old and as a mostly forgotten relic from another era. Though his cause of death is disputed. His brother Felix Powell, the one who wrote the music for the song, actually did commit suicide in 1942, by shooting his own heart with a military rifle. Felix was supposedly enthusiastic during his service in World War I, but was much less enthusiastic when serving in the Home Guard during WorldWarII.

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* A much darker example. "Pack Up Your Troubles" ("in your old kit bag and smile, smile, smile") is known as one of the most optimistic songs ever written. Its writer, George Henry Powell, later committed suicide. The context of the song and the suicide, however, are different. He wrote the song in 1915, when 35-years-old, with the explicit intent to raise moral for the British troops during WorldWarI.UsefulNotes/WorldWarI. And it worked. Powell may have committed suicide in 1951, when 71-years-old and as a mostly forgotten relic from another era. Though his cause of death is disputed. His brother Felix Powell, the one who wrote the music for the song, actually did commit suicide in 1942, by shooting his own heart with a military rifle. Felix was supposedly enthusiastic during his service in World War I, but was much less enthusiastic when serving in the Home Guard during WorldWarII.UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.
22nd Sep '17 2:32:32 AM Byzantine
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* A much darker example. "Pack Up Your Troubles" ("in your old kit bag and smile, smile, smile") is known as one of the most optimistic songs ever written. Its writer, George Henry Powell, later committed suicide.

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* A much darker example. "Pack Up Your Troubles" ("in your old kit bag and smile, smile, smile") is known as one of the most optimistic songs ever written. Its writer, George Henry Powell, later committed suicide. The context of the song and the suicide, however, are different. He wrote the song in 1915, when 35-years-old, with the explicit intent to raise moral for the British troops during WorldWarI. And it worked. Powell may have committed suicide in 1951, when 71-years-old and as a mostly forgotten relic from another era. Though his cause of death is disputed. His brother Felix Powell, the one who wrote the music for the song, actually did commit suicide in 1942, by shooting his own heart with a military rifle. Felix was supposedly enthusiastic during his service in World War I, but was much less enthusiastic when serving in the Home Guard during WorldWarII.
28th Jun '17 9:29:38 PM infernape612
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* ''Music/MichaelJackson's'' reputation as a true eccentric was seen for years as just a funny bunch of quirks that his genuine talent and extensive charity work, especially with children, balanced out. Then he was accused of molesting a young, male friend in 1993. He settled a civil suit out-of-court (and made a payout to a maid who had similar claims regarding her son) and supporters claim the evidence against him was sketchy all along, but his career was never quite the same; a second round of child molestation accusations that resulted in a court trial came along in 2003. While he was declared not guilty in 2005, his career never even approached his former heights until he died, at which time his popularity again rose and it became risky to say anything about his checkered past. Even then, the DrugsAreBad theme in his film ''Film/{{Moonwalker}}'' is soured by the revelation that he was a prescription drug addict for decades, as that was how he died.

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* ''Music/MichaelJackson's'' Music/MichaelJackson's reputation as a true eccentric was seen for years as just a funny bunch of quirks that his genuine talent and extensive charity work, especially with children, balanced out. Then he was accused of molesting a young, male friend in 1993. He settled a civil suit out-of-court (and made a payout to a maid who had similar claims regarding her son) and supporters claim the evidence against him was sketchy all along, but his career was never quite the same; a second round of child molestation accusations that resulted in a court trial came along in 2003. While he was declared not guilty in 2005, his career never even approached his former heights until he died, at which time his popularity again rose and it became risky to say anything about his checkered past. Even then, the DrugsAreBad theme in his film ''Film/{{Moonwalker}}'' is soured by the revelation that he was a prescription drug addict for decades, as that was how he died.
28th Jun '17 9:09:25 PM infernape612
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* Comedian ''Creator/JimmyCarr'' performed a sketch on 10 O'Clock Live that satirised the tax avoidance of Barclays Banks. A few months later, it emerged that Carr was himself party to a K2 tax avoidance scheme.

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* Comedian ''Creator/JimmyCarr'' Creator/JimmyCarr performed a sketch on 10 O'Clock Live that satirised the tax avoidance of Barclays Banks. A few months later, it emerged that Carr was himself party to a K2 tax avoidance scheme.
12th Jun '17 9:23:05 AM Jgorgon
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* An example that tainted an entire medium: in 1954 Australian comic-book writer/artist Len Lawson was convicted of raping several models. The resulting scandal tied in with the influence on Australia of the US anti-comics backlash to virtually destroy the country's home-grown comics industry except for the most inoffensive of children's publications. (As a sad postscript, when Lawson was released from prison, he soon sadistically murdered two more women, and was sent back to prison for life.)

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* An example that tainted an entire medium: in 1954 Australian comic-book writer/artist Len Lawson was convicted of raping several models. The resulting scandal tied in with the influence on Australia of the US anti-comics backlash to virtually destroy the country's home-grown comics industry except for the most inoffensive of children's publications. (As a sad postscript, when Lawson was released from prison, he soon sadistically murdered two more women, and was sent back to prison for life.)
12th Jun '17 9:21:57 AM Jgorgon
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* In 2003, ''Creator/MarvelComics'' tried to get a lower import tax rate on their X-Men action figures by claiming that they were not dolls, but toys. U.S. tariff laws defined a "doll" as a figure representing a human, while a "toy" represents an animal or creature. So in summation, the crux of Marvel's argument was that the X-Men are not human, which directly opposes the main Aesop of the X-Men series. The judge ruled in their favour.
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