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28th Aug '16 6:07:12 PM Gamermaster
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* Nearly everyone in ''Webcomic/OnePunchMan'' underestimates Saitama, either because of his goofy costume or his poor hero rank. Needless to say, he's the single most powerful character in the series.
14th Aug '16 4:55:59 PM MikeW
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*** When the Midnighter faced the Joker, he naturally assumed he'd kill the clown in seconds as the Midnighter is able to take one look at a guy and figure out a thousand ways to defeat him by how he thinks. When the Midnighter tried it, he was stuck dumb to realize there was ''no way possible'' to figure out the Joker's next move as even ''he'' doesn't know how his mind works.
2nd Aug '16 12:34:47 AM Tron80
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* Even big guns like ComicBook/{{Superman}} and ComicBook/GreenLantern sometimes are on the receiving end of this trope:
** Many villains assume ComicBook/{{Superman}} is the DumbMuscle FlyingBrick, and fail to realize he's also [[SuperIntelligence Super-Intelligent]], learns faster than the average human and has access to Kryptonian technology.

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* Even big guns like ComicBook/{{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} and ComicBook/GreenLantern Franchise/GreenLantern sometimes are on the receiving end of this trope:
** Many villains assume ComicBook/{{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} is the DumbMuscle FlyingBrick, and fail to realize he's also [[SuperIntelligence Super-Intelligent]], learns faster than the average human and has access to Kryptonian technology.


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* ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'' gets this a lot. Because she's a temperamental teenager, their enemies assume she is an easily manipulable, naive little girl. Because she's a super-strong Kryptonian, her enemies assume she's dumb muscle. She always shows she isn't a pushover.
** In ''Comicbook/NewKrypton'', Reactron brought golden kryptonite (which nullifies the powers of a Kryptonian) to the fight, thinking he'd kill Supergirl easily. It turns out that Supergirl has been trained by both Franchise/{{Batman}} and Franchise/WonderWoman and knows Klurkor (a Kryptonian martial art).
** In ''Comicbook/RedDaughterOfKrypton'' ''Comicbook/{{Lobo}}'' thought that Supergirl would fight worse if he pressed her buttons. It turned out that Kara doesn't get careless when she gets angry: she gets more dangerous.
** Later on, [[Franchise/GreenLantern Guy Gardner]] ordered Supergirl not to let Bleez -who was wounded- leave med bay. Bleez stated that she had no time to socialize with children and tried to shove Kara away of the door she was blocking. Yup. Good luck with that.
** [[spoiler:Worldkiller-1]] thought that Supergirl couldn't do anything to stop him. But it appears that fighting a Kryptonian after she's just taken a bath in the Sun isn't a good idea.
* ''Comicbook/PowerGirl'' gets this the whole time. People see her and think: "Blonde, buxom and muscled equal dumb". One of her enemies -Ultrahumanite- calls her brainless and quips that her brain is her less used body part... even though she always, always, ''always'' outsmarts him. It irks Power Girl, but she admits that it's good being underestimated.
-->'''Power Girl:''' He believes he's already won. He thinks I'm stupid. It's okay. I like being underestimated.
25th Jul '16 12:44:13 PM erforce
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* ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay''. The T-800 walks into a bar in the buff, tells some punk to give him his clothes and his motorcycle. The punk starts a fight. Guess what happens?

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* ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay''. The T-800 walks into a bar in the buff, tells some punk to give him his clothes and his motorcycle. The punk starts a fight. Guess what happens?''Franchise/{{Terminator}}''



* The ''{{Zatoichi}}'' series in Japan lives on the basis that people are always underestimating Zatoichi because he is blind, but is really an extremely deadly swordsman.

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** ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay''. The T-800 walks into a bar in the buff, tells some punk to give him his clothes and his motorcycle. The punk starts a fight. Guess what happens?
* The ''{{Zatoichi}}'' ''Film/{{Zatoichi}}'' series in Japan lives on the basis that people are always underestimating Zatoichi because he is blind, but is really an extremely deadly swordsman.



* In ''IpMan 2'', the friends of Wong Leung who he calls to challenge Ip think he looks like a laundryman, while one of the Hong Kong masters thinks his name sounds lame. They have no idea.

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* In ''IpMan 2'', ''Film/IpMan2'', the friends of Wong Leung who he calls to challenge Ip think he looks like a laundryman, while one of the Hong Kong masters thinks his name sounds lame. They have no idea.



* {{Tap}} (1988): "But since you ain't got no legs..."

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* {{Tap}} ''Film/{{Tap}}'' (1988): "But since you ain't got no legs..."



* In ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', when being questioned by Kirk, John Harrison makes a snide comment about Spock being a Vulcan and how Spock wouldn't know savagery like him. [[spoiler: Spock proves him wrong when he delivers a brutal beatdown on Harrison/Khan after Kirk's death]]. There is a good reason why Vulcans suppress their emotions.

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* ''Franchise/StarTrek''
** ''Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome''. Another "punk on a bus" moment. This guy likes his boombox ''loud'', and he's not going to turn it down for anybody, let alone this older guy in his pajamas or his weird friend wearing a bathrobe and headband. So he responds to the guy's request to turn the thing down by turning it ''up'', and giving him a [[FlippingTheBird one-finger salute]]. Then he becomes aware that the bathrobe guy is reaching for his ne--
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In ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', when being questioned by Kirk, John Harrison makes a snide comment about Spock being a Vulcan and how Spock wouldn't know savagery like him. [[spoiler: Spock proves him wrong when he delivers a brutal beatdown on Harrison/Khan after Kirk's death]]. There is a good reason why Vulcans suppress their emotions.



* ''Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome''. Another "punk on a bus" moment. This guy likes his boombox ''loud'', and he's not going to turn it down for anybody, let alone this older guy in his pajamas or his weird friend wearing a bathrobe and headband. So he responds to the guy's request to turn the thing down by turning it ''up'', and giving him a [[FlippingTheBird one-finger salute]]. Then he becomes aware that the bathrobe guy is reaching for his ne--
25th Jul '16 12:40:36 PM ultimomant
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* ''Fanfic/PonyPOVSeries'': One of Queen Chrysalis' biggest flaws is constantly dismissing "background characters" as unimportant and not taking them into consideration when forming her plans.
23rd Jul '16 4:03:06 PM ChaoticNovelist
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We all know just how awesome the {{Badass}} is, whether they look the part [[MuggingTheMonster or]] [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass not]]. Unfortunately, not everyone else in the film or TV show does, even when the former is the case.

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We all We, the audience, know just how awesome the {{Badass}} badass is, whether they look the part [[MuggingTheMonster or]] [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass not]]. Unfortunately, not everyone else in the film or TV show story does, even when the former is the case.



* In ''Manga/BlackLagoon'', at the beginning of the first "Killer {{Meido}}" arc, some local yahoos make the mistake of thinking that [[ImplacableMan Roberta]] is an easy target because she's a milk-drinking ''Meido.'' ''Bad'' mistake.
** Later on, at the beginning of ''El Baile De La Muerte,'' some of them make the ''same'' stupid mistake about [[spoiler: Roberta's protege Fabiola.]] [[WhatAnIdiot You'd think they'd learn...]]

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* In ''Manga/BlackLagoon'', at ''Manga/BlackLagoon'',
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the beginning of the first "Killer {{Meido}}" arc, some local yahoos make the mistake of thinking that [[ImplacableMan Roberta]] is an easy target because she's a milk-drinking ''Meido.'' ''Bad'' mistake.
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mistake. At the beginning of ''El Baile De La Muerte,'' some of them make the ''same'' stupid mistake about [[spoiler: Roberta's protege Fabiola.]] [[WhatAnIdiot You'd think they'd learn...]]



** And in the Japan arc, [[JerkAss Chaka]] thinks that [[BewareTheNiceOnes Rock]] is perfectly safe to abuse and mistreat, even though he's part of the [[TheMafiya Hotel Moscow]] delegation and his [[DarkActionGirl girlfriend]] is right there. And to top it off, he thinks that wantonly messing about with the heiress of the Washimine-gumi, who both Rock and a true {{Badass}} of a {{Samurai}} on par with Revy herself have a protective streak towards, is a good idea.

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** And in In the Japan arc, [[JerkAss Chaka]] thinks that [[BewareTheNiceOnes Rock]] is perfectly safe to abuse and mistreat, even though he's part of the [[TheMafiya Hotel Moscow]] delegation and his [[DarkActionGirl girlfriend]] bodyguard]] is right there. And to To top it off, he thinks that wantonly messing about with the heiress of the Washimine-gumi, who both Rock and a true {{Badass}} of a {{Samurai}} true{{Samurai}} on par with Revy herself have a protective streak towards, is a good idea.



** There are only seven Level 5 espers in Academy City. Each is explicitly a OneManArmy and the stronger ones like Accelerator, Dark Matter, Railgun and Meltdowner are an outright PersonOfMassDestruction. FridgeLogic would dictate that punks would get their photographs and avoid any of them at all costs but no, if you thought trying to punch out [[ShockAndAwe Mikoto]] was bad, there are idiots who try to attack [[AxCrazy Accelerator]]!

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** There are only seven Level 5 espers in Academy City. Each is explicitly a OneManArmy and the stronger ones like Accelerator, Dark Matter, Railgun and Meltdowner are an outright PersonOfMassDestruction. FridgeLogic One would dictate think that punks would get their photographs and avoid any of them at all costs but no, if you thought trying to punch out [[ShockAndAwe Mikoto]] was bad, there are idiots who try to attack [[AxCrazy Accelerator]]!


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*''Literature/JourneyToChaos'': Lots of enemies think that Tiza is an easy target because she's not a mage. They typically end up BoundAndGagged and humiliated.
15th Jul '16 8:44:21 AM Willbyr
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* In the early volumes of ''BattleAngelAlita'' A.K.A ''Gunnm'', Alita/Gally was underestimated by many of her enemies and paid the price, starting with the arrogant bounty hunter named Zapan. In the sequel Manga, ''Last Order'', her reputation as one of the strongest warriors in the universe precedes her.

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* In the early volumes of ''BattleAngelAlita'' A.K.A ''Gunnm'', ''Manga/{{Gunnm}}'', Alita/Gally was underestimated by many of her enemies and paid the price, starting with the arrogant bounty hunter named Zapan. In the sequel Manga, ''Last Order'', her reputation as one of the strongest warriors in the universe precedes her.
10th Jul '16 5:38:39 PM Eddy1215
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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11961369/10/Blood-Man-Luffy Blood Man Luffy]]'', Smoker severely underestimates Luffy due to thinking Luffy are a paramecia devil fruit when he'd actually eaten a logia. Though to be fair to Smoker, virtually all information on the particular fruit had been erased from existence by the World Government before he became a marine.

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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11961369/10/Blood-Man-Luffy Blood Man Luffy]]'', Smoker severely underestimates Luffy due to thinking Luffy are ate a paramecia devil fruit when he'd actually eaten a logia. Though to be fair to Smoker, virtually all information on the particular fruit had been erased from existence by the World Government before he became a marine.
10th Jul '16 4:51:54 PM TheSinful
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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11961369/10/Blood-Man-Luffy Blood Man Luffy]]'', Smoker severely underestimates Luffy due to thinking Luffy are a paramecia devil fruit when he'd actually eaten a logia. Though to be fair to Smoker, virtually all information on the particular fruit had been erased from existence by the World Government before he became a marine.
26th Jun '16 9:05:40 PM nombretomado
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* In Literature/TheDresdenFiles there are a good dozen or more of persons or entities who look weak, pathetic, foolish, dim, and easy prey. They are not to be laughed at. They are not to be looked down upon. They can and will kick your ass, if they don't just kill you. Here is just a small sample of the most frequently occurring examples.
** So there's this guy. He's a tall but gangly fellow, looks [[PermaStubble perpetually unshaven]], [[BadassLongcoat wears a big coat]] and walks around with a [[SimpleStaff big stick]] and generally seems like a scruffy, weird sort, but is otherwise not really all that much of a threat. A great many people, both {{Muggle}} and supernatural, consider him to just be some freaky guy with eclectic fashion sense. Except this guy's name is Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden, titular character of ''TheDresdenFiles''. Conjure by it at your own risk. After all, this is the man who has taken on all kinds of supernatural beings and survived every encounter. [[spoiler:He killed a Faerie Queen, stared down and nearly killed [[PersonOfMassDestruction Nicodemus Archleone]]- ''twice'', reanimated a ''dinosaur'' and marched it through the streets of Chicago, and genocided the entire Red Court of vampires [[PapaWolf because they took his daughter]]]]. The supernatural types eventually start [[TheDreaded coming to realize how dangerous he is]], but the {{muggles}}? Not so much.

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* In Literature/TheDresdenFiles ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' there are a good dozen or more of persons or entities who look weak, pathetic, foolish, dim, and easy prey. They are not to be laughed at. They are not to be looked down upon. They can and will kick your ass, if they don't just kill you. Here is just a small sample of the most frequently occurring examples.
** So there's this guy. He's a tall but gangly fellow, looks [[PermaStubble perpetually unshaven]], [[BadassLongcoat wears a big coat]] and walks around with a [[SimpleStaff big stick]] and generally seems like a scruffy, weird sort, but is otherwise not really all that much of a threat. A great many people, both {{Muggle}} and supernatural, consider him to just be some freaky guy with eclectic fashion sense. Except this guy's name is Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden, titular character of ''TheDresdenFiles''.''The Dresden Files''. Conjure by it at your own risk. After all, this is the man who has taken on all kinds of supernatural beings and survived every encounter. [[spoiler:He killed a Faerie Queen, stared down and nearly killed [[PersonOfMassDestruction Nicodemus Archleone]]- ''twice'', reanimated a ''dinosaur'' and marched it through the streets of Chicago, and genocided the entire Red Court of vampires [[PapaWolf because they took his daughter]]]]. The supernatural types eventually start [[TheDreaded coming to realize how dangerous he is]], but the {{muggles}}? Not so much.
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