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20th Jun '16 10:21:46 AM Arcana4th
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* ''Manga/ShokugekiNoSouma'' one of every antagonist's mistakes through all the manga is the fact that nobody takes in consideration that a upbeat commoner boy that worked on his dad's simple restaurant or a young, sweet ShrinkingViolet who is constantly apologizing are able and experienced in kicking ass on a kitchen. This happened to Ikumi, the Central, Erina, Alice, Hisako, Myoko, random students... basically everybody but the smart ones.

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* ''Manga/ShokugekiNoSouma'' In ''Manga/ShokugekiNoSoma'', one of every antagonist's mistakes through all the manga is the fact that nobody takes in consideration that a BookDumb upbeat commoner boy that worked on his dad's simple restaurant or a young, sweet ShrinkingViolet who is constantly apologizing are able and experienced in kicking ass on a kitchen. This happened to Ikumi, the Central, Erina, Alice, Hisako, Myoko, random students... basically everybody but the smart smartest ones.
20th Jun '16 10:18:05 AM Arcana4th
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* ''Manga/ShokugekiNoSouma'' one of every antagonist's mistakes through all the manga is the fact that nobody takes in consideration that a upbeat commoner boy that worked on his dad's simple restaurant or a young, sweet ShrinkingViolet who is constantly apologizing are able and experienced in kicking ass on a kitchen. This happened to Ikumi, the Central, Erina, Alice, Hisako, Myoko, random students... basically everybody but the smart ones.
16th Jun '16 4:41:25 PM Freezer
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* ''Webcomic/TwoKinds'' a group of hooded, alleged Templar attacking a village gathering spot the approach of the village's guardian, the dragoness Reni. One of the "Templar" tries to calm the rest, saying that Reni's only one juvenile and that their magic shields will stand up to even a dragon's fire. Cue Reni swatting one of them (and a chunk of the wall he was standing on) to the ground with her claws.[[note]]This was on top of being put on their heels after being confronted by Trace, who's name as Grand Templar they invoked at the start of the attack[[/note]]//

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* ''Webcomic/TwoKinds'' a ''Webcomic/TwoKinds'': A group of hooded, alleged Templar Templars attacking a village gathering spot the approach of the village's guardian, the dragoness Reni. One of the "Templar" "Templars" tries to calm the rest, saying that Reni's only one a juvenile and that their magic shields will stand up to even a dragon's fire. Cue Reni swatting one of them (and a chunk of the wall he was standing on) to the ground with her claws.[[note]]This was on top of being put on their heels after being confronted by Trace, who's name as Grand Templar they invoked at the start of the attack[[/note]]//attack[[/note]]
16th Jun '16 4:39:46 PM Freezer
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* ''Webcomic/TwoKinds'' a group of hooded, alleged Templar attacking a village gathering spot the approach of the village's guardian, the dragoness Reni. One of the "Templar" tries to calm the rest, saying that Reni's only one juvenile and that their magic shields will stand up to even a dragon's fire. Cue Reni swatting one of them (and a chunk of the wall he was standing on) to the ground with her claws.[[note]]This was on top of being put on their heels after being confronted by Trace, who's name as Grand Templar they invoked at the start of the attack[[/note]]//
-->'''Templar''': ... We've played our part. [[KnowWhenToFoldEm <teleports out>]]
14th Jun '16 8:09:07 PM ajbit26
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** Angel's son Connor seems to think just because he's super strong, he fails to see what is so special about Slayers, and as such thinks Faith should at most be a speed bump. She proceeds to mop the floor with him.



** Season 4 gives us Bob, a pudgy constable (a law enforcement position that pays almost nothing and has no real authority) who is a constant ButtMonkey and is played by ''Creator/PattonOswalt''. While most people do not take him seriously, GenreSavvy characters remember that back in elementary school Bob hit a bully in the head with a hammer and put the kid in a comma. When two drunk {{Corrupt Hick}}s take start firing their rifles at Bob, they discover that Bob has an automatic assault rifle in his car. A mobster captures Bob and tortures him for information but FailedASpotCheck and does not realize that Bob carries a hidden knife on him at all times. Bob simply waits for the mobster to drop his guard and then fatally stabs him in the leg. In the confrontation at the high school, an injured Bob is fully prepared to back up Raylan in a LastStand gunfight against a dozen mobsters.

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** Season 4 gives us Bob, a pudgy constable (a law enforcement position that pays almost nothing and has no real authority) who is a constant ButtMonkey and is played by ''Creator/PattonOswalt''. While most people do not take him seriously, GenreSavvy characters remember that back in elementary school Bob hit a bully in the head with a hammer and put the kid in a comma. coma. When two drunk {{Corrupt Hick}}s take start firing their rifles at Bob, they discover that Bob has an automatic assault rifle in his car. A mobster captures Bob and tortures him for information but FailedASpotCheck and does not realize that Bob carries a hidden knife on him at all times. Bob simply waits for the mobster to drop his guard and then fatally stabs him in the leg.him. In the confrontation at the high school, an injured Bob is fully prepared to back up Raylan in a LastStand gunfight against a dozen mobsters.
4th Jun '16 6:07:42 PM ANTMuddle
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* ''Film/TheNextKarateKid'': Ned is shocked to the heavens when Julie, his ButtMonkey for much of the film, utterly ''wrecks'' him in the climax.
24th May '16 2:47:49 PM Zoriax91
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** Both Kenpachi and Nnoitra manage to underestimate ''each other'' during their battle. Specifically, Nnoitra finds out that Kenpachi doesn't care at all about being hit, won't stop attacking no matter what he throws at him, and is actually strong enough to bypass his resistance; meanwhile, Kenpachi is forced to reconsider his [[AttackAttackAttack usual tactic]] after taking so many wounds from Nnoitra's scythes, since dragging the fight long as he usually does will result in him dying for blood loss.
22nd May '16 1:06:20 PM DrImpossible
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** Many Centauri had started thinking that [[TheFettered emperor Kran]] was weak due his fear of Earth Alliance. Then House Kodiro crosses the line... And by the time he was finished, [[MagnificentBastard his manipulations had seen House Kodiro destroyed with contemptuous ease and means that involve a Minbari attack, EarthForce had the excuse to attack Narn and solve the whole shebang, and when the Hyach thought that the Centauri were weak for the defeat over Narn and attacked their fleet found that the Centauri Royal Navy was lying in ambush with overwhelming force, and while everyone knows he's responsible]] ''[[MagnificentBastard nobody can prove his involvement in what happened except the ambush]]''. [[TheMagnificent He's immediately nicknamed Kran the Great]].

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** Many Centauri had started thinking that [[TheFettered emperor Kran]] was weak due his fear of Earth Alliance. Then House Kodiro crosses the line... And by the time he was finished, [[MagnificentBastard his manipulations had seen House Kodiro destroyed with contemptuous ease and means that involve a Minbari attack, EarthForce had the excuse to attack Narn and solve the whole shebang, and when the Hyach thought that the Centauri were weak for the defeat over Narn and attacked their fleet found that the Centauri Royal Navy was lying in ambush with overwhelming force, and while everyone knows he's responsible]] ''[[MagnificentBastard nobody can prove his involvement in what happened except the ambush]]''. [[TheMagnificent He's immediately nicknamed named Kran the Great]].
18th May '16 1:08:15 PM narm00
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* Aquaman gets this a lot, especially since the [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway 'all he can do is talk to fish']] meme is widespread even in-universe. What many of his opponents tend to forget though, is that he has super strength and speed, and happens to be one of the most powerful telepaths on the planet. Needless to say, people who underestimate him usually end up regretting it.

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* Aquaman ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} gets this a lot, especially since the [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway 'all he can do is talk to fish']] meme is widespread even in-universe. What many of his opponents tend to forget though, is that he has super strength and speed, and happens to be one of the most powerful telepaths on the planet. Needless to say, people who underestimate him usually end up regretting it.



** Really, just about every superhero in the Wildstorm universe was guilty of this. Midnighter and Apollo were just the most egregious case because they were the last. They knew, or should have known, that Cap had already beaten Mr. Majestic, the WildCats, and the Engineer, all of whom were also guilty of ''severely'' underestimating Cap, to the point where the WildCats deliberately attacked one at a time, as if it were a game.

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** Really, just about every superhero in the Wildstorm universe was guilty of this. Midnighter and Apollo were just the most egregious case because they were the last. They knew, or should have known, that Cap had already beaten Mr. Majestic, the WildCats, ComicBook/WildCATs, and the Engineer, all of whom were also guilty of ''severely'' underestimating Cap, to the point where the WildCats ComicBook/WildCATs deliberately attacked one at a time, as if it were a game.



* Countless Super Villains: Franchise/{{Batman}}'s just a [[BadassNormal guy in a costume.]] One of the most famous examples being when the Hyperclan, [[spoiler:really White Martians]] capture or incapacitate the entire Justice League, except Batman who they dismiss as JustOneMan. Batman proceeds to find out their secret (and lets them know it in an ''[[Awesome/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica awesome]]'' fashion), [[TheDreaded reduce them to paranoid wrecks]] and practically dismantle their entire plan singlehandedly.

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* Countless Super Villains: Franchise/{{Batman}}'s just a [[BadassNormal guy in a costume.]] One of the most famous examples being when the Hyperclan, [[spoiler:really White Martians]] Martians,]] capture or incapacitate the entire Justice League, except Batman who they dismiss as JustOneMan. Batman proceeds to find out their secret (and lets them know it in an ''[[Awesome/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica awesome]]'' fashion), [[TheDreaded reduce them to paranoid wrecks]] and practically dismantle their entire plan singlehandedly.



* Happens to {{Spider-Man}} quite frequently. He's a lithe guy who swings around a lot, wears silly pajamas, and makes stupid jokes. New villains tend to forget that he's held his own with the Avengers, the X-Men, and fought just about every villain in the Marvel Universe. (The rule of thumb is, when he stops cracking wise, start running and you don't stop till you're out of New York state.)

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* Happens to {{Spider-Man}} ComicBook/SpiderMan quite frequently. He's a lithe guy who swings around a lot, wears silly pajamas, and makes stupid jokes. New villains tend to forget that he's held his own with the Avengers, the X-Men, and fought just about every villain in the Marvel Universe. (The rule of thumb is, when he stops cracking wise, start running and you don't stop till you're out of New York state.)



* ComicBook/{{X 23}} gets sexually harassed pretty regularly. Yes ''[[ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} that]]'' [[OppositeSexClone X-23]]. Of course, she appears to be a normal and quite attractive teenage girl but still...

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* ComicBook/{{X 23}} gets sexually harassed pretty regularly. Yes Yes, ''[[ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} that]]'' [[OppositeSexClone X-23]]. Of course, she appears to be a normal and quite attractive teenage girl but still...



--->'''Dark-Razzia''': [[EvilLaugh Ah Ah Ah]] ! [[SmugSnake You]], kick my ass ? [[TemptingFate I would like to see tha]]... ([[KilledMidSentence Razzia punches him through the face]] with [[LivingWeapon Amy]], sending him flying meters away)

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--->'''Dark-Razzia''': [[EvilLaugh Ah Ah Ah]] ! Ah]]! [[SmugSnake You]], kick my ass ? ass? [[TemptingFate I would like to see tha]]... ([[KilledMidSentence Razzia punches him through the face]] with [[LivingWeapon Amy]], sending him flying meters away)



* Poor ComicBook/{{Empowered}} is often dismissed because her superpowers depend on an easily ripped suit. Thing is, she's [[GuileHero really smart]] and GenreSavvy, and more than one supervillain found themselves defeated in ways they could have ''never'' seen coming. Most devastatingly, [[spoiler:she eavesdrop any little piece of information supervillains mention in her presence whenever they capture her, has no qualm using it or putting it into the superhero database, and is smart enough to ''not'' gloat about it]].

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* Poor ComicBook/{{Empowered}} is often dismissed because her superpowers depend on an easily ripped suit. Thing is, she's [[GuileHero really smart]] and GenreSavvy, and more than one supervillain found themselves defeated in ways they could have ''never'' seen coming. Most devastatingly, [[spoiler:she eavesdrop picks up on any little piece of information supervillains mention in her presence whenever they capture her, has no qualm using it or putting it into the superhero database, and is smart enough to ''not'' gloat about it]].



* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'': "Sure, she's wearing the uniform of the City Watch, but she's just some pretty blond. How tough can she really be? Let's take her hostage again!" Protip, criminals: Captain Angua von Uberwald is also a ''werewolf,'' and one of the toughest and most dangerous members of the City Watch.

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* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'': "Sure, she's wearing the uniform of the City Watch, but she's just some pretty blond.blonde. How tough can she really be? Let's take her hostage again!" Protip, criminals: Captain Angua von Uberwald is also a ''werewolf,'' and one of the toughest and most dangerous members of the City Watch.



** A non-monster instance occurs when Buffy squares off against Tara's father in "Family". Mr. Maclay has no idea that Buffy could kill him with her bare hands and, given what a mysogynistic AbusiveParent he is, it's a real shame we don't get to see her show him.
** Xander who has no powers of any kind takes out a ''goddess'' with a ''wrecking ball''.

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** A non-monster instance occurs when Buffy squares off against Tara's father in "Family". Mr. Maclay has no idea that Buffy could kill him with her bare hands and, given what a mysogynistic misogynistic AbusiveParent he is, it's a real shame we don't get to see her show him.
** Xander Xander, who has no powers of any kind kind, takes out a ''goddess'' with a ''wrecking ball''.



** The double episode [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E8HumanNature "Human Nature"]]/[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E9TheFamilyOfBlood "The Family of Blood"]] involves a family of short-lived aliens named the Blood Family chasing him in order to consume him and gain immortality. The Doctor initially tries to escape from them by sealing his alien self while he turns human with his companion Martha as the one in charge of his former self. The Blood Family then goes after them, killing several people in the process and bombing a village to force the Doctor to come back. When it finally happen, an infuriated Doctor easily [[OutGambitted Out Gambits]] them and punishes them by putting them in various AndIMustScream situations that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor specifically grant them eternal life in the process]]. They then [[OhCrap realize]] he wasn't running from them because he was ''afraid'' of them... but because he was afraid of [[BewareTheNiceOnes what he could do to them]].
** "[[AC:Subject is unarmed]]." "[[ArmCannon Ya think?]]" [[spoiler:This was said to an Auton Rory Pond, a nurse who is one of the most hardcore beings in the universe.]] [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E7AGoodManGoesToWar And the Cybermen would also later discover that when he asks a question, best not push him to repeat it.]]

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** The double episode [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E8HumanNature "Human Nature"]]/[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E9TheFamilyOfBlood "The Family of Blood"]] involves a family of short-lived aliens named the Blood Family of Blood chasing him in order to consume him and gain immortality. The Doctor initially tries to escape from them by sealing his alien self while he turns human with his companion Martha as the one in charge of his former self. The Blood Family then goes after them, killing several people in the process and bombing a village to force the Doctor to come back. When it finally happen, happens, an infuriated Doctor easily [[OutGambitted Out Gambits]] them and punishes them by putting them in various AndIMustScream situations that [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor specifically grant them eternal life in the process]]. They then [[OhCrap realize]] he wasn't running from them because he was ''afraid'' of them... but because he was afraid of [[BewareTheNiceOnes what he could do to them]].
** "[[AC:Subject is unarmed]]." "[[ArmCannon Ya think?]]" [[spoiler:This was said to an the temporarily Auton Rory Pond, a nurse who is one of the most hardcore beings in the universe.]] [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E7AGoodManGoesToWar And the Cybermen would also later discover that when he asks a question, best not push him to repeat it.]]



* Nick Burkhardt from {{Grimm}} is subject to this a lot, like when a group of coyotls thinks he and Hank are just two cops with no idea what they are getting themselves into in addition to being out numbered, or in the rare instance where he gets to pull this on someone who knew he was a Grimm when the Reaper dispatcher sends ''two'' Reapers to catch him by surprise, only to get [[LosingYourHead a rather disturbing package in the mail]].

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* Nick Burkhardt from {{Grimm}} Series/{{Grimm}} is subject to this a lot, like when a group of coyotls thinks he and Hank are just two cops with no idea what they are getting themselves into in addition to being out numbered, or in the rare instance where he gets to pull this on someone who knew he was a Grimm when the Reaper dispatcher sends ''two'' Reapers to catch him by surprise, only to get [[LosingYourHead a rather disturbing package in the mail]].



** Killer Frost and Toyman in the penultimate episode of JLU. She's stone-cold killer with ice powers, and he's a dwarfish man with toys, it's an easy win, right? She doesn't even get a single hit in.

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** Killer Frost and Toyman in the penultimate episode of JLU. She's a stone-cold killer with ice powers, and he's a dwarfish man with toys, it's an easy win, right? She doesn't even get a single hit in.
17th May '16 2:27:29 PM falcon2484
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* ''Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome''. Another "punk on a bus" moment. This guy likes his boombox ''loud'', and he's not going to turn it down for anybody, let alone this older guy in his pajamas or his weird friend wearing a bathrobe and headband. So he responds to the guy's request to turn the thing down by turning it ''up'', and giving him a [[FlippingTheBird one-finger salute]]. Then he goes to sleep for a while.

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* ''Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome''. Another "punk on a bus" moment. This guy likes his boombox ''loud'', and he's not going to turn it down for anybody, let alone this older guy in his pajamas or his weird friend wearing a bathrobe and headband. So he responds to the guy's request to turn the thing down by turning it ''up'', and giving him a [[FlippingTheBird one-finger salute]]. Then he goes to sleep becomes aware that the bathrobe guy is reaching for a while.his ne--
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