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12th Jul '17 10:18:50 AM KrspaceT
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* ''Fanfic/PokemonResetBloodlines'' is a timeline with elements of various Pokemon series with new characters and plot elements, though many of the characters from the original material do retain their more moral aspects from their original portrayals.
11th Jul '17 4:28:10 PM valhallaerikson
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* The Series/{{TeenWolf}} is loosely based on the movie of the same name. In a DarkerAndEdgier tone.
9th Jul '17 3:22:13 PM MadAnthony94
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* ''BatmanArkhamOrigins''. While other games in the ''VideoGame/{{Batman Arkham Series}}'' try to focus on incorporating the best elements from across every Bat-adaptation, or showing how dangerous even the cheesiest Batman villain can be, ''Origins'' seems determined to modernize Gotham: Riddler becomes a hacker and cyberterrorist, Anarky resembles a modern "Guy Fawkes" street protestor, and a lot of focus is given to the corrupt prison and police system, both major talking points among the public when the game came out.
29th Jun '17 4:29:03 PM JulianLapostat
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Extremely common in {{Retool}}ed {{Cross Over}}s, as this allows a more precise meshing of plots than a {{Retcon}} may allow.

They may usually contain several {{Mythology Gag}}s, referencing things from the original work (either as a remake of popular plots or circumstances, or as a mere detail that the fans may notice and the new readers may not even notice as such). If both universes are being used, the original and the ultimate, the ultimate universe may take more liberties than the original: for example, an important character may be KilledOffForReal, because StatusQuoIsGod only at the original universe.

Named for the Creator/MarvelComics "ComicBook/UltimateMarvel" line, which sought to update and streamline decades of continuity with a reboot but without canceling out the original storyline. Most superheroes under the "Ultimate" umbrella brand are given reboots of their own, but on a smaller scale -- Comicbook/{{Spider-Man}}'s [[ILoveNuclearPower 'radioactive spider']] origin story was replaced with an [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke updated 'genetically engineered spider']] version.

The "Ultimate" line, it should be noted, was intended to present Marvel's flagship characters to a new, modern audience; the rationale behind the quasi-reboot was that new readers to those series would be lost when confronted with nearly 30 years of backstory. (Athough by the time it was retired with fifteen years of backstory to its own name, ComicBook/UltimateMarvel was no longer much less convoluted than the original flavor).

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Extremely common in {{Retool}}ed {{Cross Over}}s, as this allows a more precise meshing of plots than a {{Retcon}} may allow. It also allows for CanonWelding and greater cohesiveness owing to the advantage of foreknowledge that it possesses over the regular serial continuity (which generally more or less introduced new elements and characters [[IndyPloy as it went along]]). They usually contain several {{Mythology Gag}}s, referencing things from the original work (either as a remake of popular plots or circumstances, or as a mere detail that the fans may notice and the new readers may not even notice as such). If both universes are being used, the original and the ultimate, the ultimate universe may take more liberties than the original: for example, an important character may be KilledOffForReal, because StatusQuoIsGod only at the original universe.

They may usually contain several {{Mythology Gag}}s, referencing things from the original work (either as a remake of popular plots or circumstances, or as a mere detail that the fans may notice and the new readers may not even notice as such). If both universes are being used, the original and the ultimate, the ultimate universe may take more liberties than the original: for example, an important character may be KilledOffForReal, because StatusQuoIsGod only at the original universe.

Named for the Creator/MarvelComics "ComicBook/UltimateMarvel" line, which sought to update and streamline decades of continuity with a reboot but without canceling out the original storyline. Most superheroes under the "Ultimate" umbrella brand are given reboots of their own, but on a smaller scale -- Comicbook/{{Spider-Man}}'s [[ILoveNuclearPower 'radioactive spider']] origin story was replaced with an [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke updated 'genetically engineered spider']] version.

version. The "Ultimate" line, it should be noted, was intended to present Marvel's flagship characters to a new, modern audience; the rationale behind the quasi-reboot was that new readers to those series would be lost when confronted with nearly 30 years of backstory. (Athough On account of its success and popularity however, the Ultimate continuity went on for fifteen years, and by the time it was retired with retired, it had fifteen years of backstory to its own name, ComicBook/UltimateMarvel was no longer much less convoluted than [[ComicBook/UltimateMarvel which became just as convoluted]] and [[LostInImitation as the original flavor).
flavor]] and on account of its SettingUpdate, ended up becoming an UnintentionalPeriodPiece.



** ''Supreme Power'' is a mature UltimateUniverse version of Marvel's JusticeLeague [[CaptainErsatz Captain Ersatzes]], the SquadronSupreme. They even crossovered with the actual Ultimate Universe once.
** Creator/{{Warren Ellis}}' short-lived ''newuniversal'' is {{The New Universe}}'s Ultimate version.
* The Creator/DCComics ''All-Star'' line, which had the ''ComicBook/AllStarSuperman'' and ''ComicBook/AllStarBatmanAndRobinTheBoyWonder'' miniseries (with future projects based on WonderWoman, ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}, and possibly {{the Flash}}), is a form of this. The series aren't supposed to take place in any particular continuity (although ''All-Star Batman and Robin'' does [[ContinuitySnarl supposedly]] take place in the same continuity as Creator/FrankMiller's other Batman stories), and are supposed to be a concentration of what makes those characters special. As well, ''Justice'' is basically ''All-Star {{WesternAnimation/Superfriends}}'', even if it couldn't legally be called that.
* The ''ComicBook/EarthOne'' series of trade-paperbacks, consisting of ''ComicBook/BatmanEarthOne'', ''ComicBook/SupermanEarthOne'', ''ComicBook/TeenTitansEarthOne'' and ''ComicBook/WonderWomanEarthOne'' with ''Aquaman: Earth One'' and ''The Flash: Earth One'' announced, follow the Ultimate Marvel formula more closely than the All-Star line, intending to be a modern reboot in a new continuity rather than another mini-series written outside of continuity.

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** The primary changes made to the series is the SettingUpdate, with the superhero-mutant era being identified as TheNineties and TheOughties. The mutant phenomenon is originally the linchpin for the series, with Magneto being the GreaterScopeVillain for the series (as opposed to ''ComicBook/DoctorDoom''), the X-Men being the first super-team and ComicBook/TheUltimates (the Avengers' new name) being formed as a response to both Magneto and avoiding dependency on the X-Men. SHIELD is the primary GovernmentAgencyOfFiction and the overall arc for the entire franchise is GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke with many plots and schemes tied back to the idea of recreating the Super Serum that worked perfectly in Captain America but in the hands of Norman Osborn leads to accidents (Peter Parker being bitten by one of his experimental spiders, which leads to Osborn making himself the Green Goblin and so on) and in the case of the Fantastic Four, leads to experiments in the Negative Zone.
** The streamlining of Ultimate Marvel becomes clearer if one compares it to the original Marvel continuity in its EarlyInstallmentWeirdness phase. The original Marvel run in TheSixties did not have ComicBookTime, it had character progression in almost real time, and showed growth and change, whereas the Ultimate continuity, owing to its streamlining, had ComicBookTime from the start. As such the Fantastic Four remain teenage to young adults and never quite become the ExperiencedProtagonist of the original First Family of the Marvel Universe (and eventually crack apart), Peter Parker passes a whopping 200 issues while never progressing past high school and graduating (while the original Steve Ditko-Stan Lee run shipped him off to college in Issue #31), and the series has the characters being YoungerAndHipper, HotterAndSexier, DarkerAndEdgier and staying that way for the entire continuity with very little CharacterDevelopment.
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''Supreme Power'' is a mature UltimateUniverse version of Marvel's JusticeLeague [[CaptainErsatz Captain Ersatzes]], the SquadronSupreme. They even crossovered with the actual Ultimate Universe once.
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once. Creator/{{Warren Ellis}}' short-lived ''newuniversal'' is {{The New Universe}}'s Ultimate version.
* The Creator/DCComics ''All-Star'' line, which had the ''ComicBook/AllStarSuperman'' and ''ComicBook/AllStarBatmanAndRobinTheBoyWonder'' miniseries (with future projects based on WonderWoman, ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}, and possibly {{the Flash}}), is was a form of this. The series aren't supposed to take place in any particular continuity (although ''All-Star Batman and Robin'' does [[ContinuitySnarl supposedly]] take place in the same continuity as Creator/FrankMiller's other Batman stories), and are supposed to be a concentration of what makes those characters special. As well, ''Justice'' is basically ''All-Star {{WesternAnimation/Superfriends}}'', even if it couldn't legally be called that.
* The ''ComicBook/EarthOne'' series of trade-paperbacks, consisting of ''ComicBook/BatmanEarthOne'', ''ComicBook/SupermanEarthOne'', ''ComicBook/TeenTitansEarthOne'' and ''ComicBook/WonderWomanEarthOne'' with ''Aquaman: Earth One'' and ''The Flash: Earth One'' announced, follow the Ultimate Marvel formula more closely than the All-Star line, intending to be a modern reboot in a new continuity rather than another mini-series written outside of continuity. The characters are all younger, more violent and asocial than the regular continuity.



* ''Franchise/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'' is this for the entire Batman mythos. It borrows certain aspects from the comics and adapt them into a more mundane setting while still keeping the spirit of the Batman character intact.
* ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'' is considered to be a more modern approach to the regular Marvel Universe.

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* ''Franchise/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'' is this for the entire Batman mythos. It borrows certain streamlines many aspects from the comics and adapt them into adapts it in a more mundane realistic setting while still keeping the spirit of the Batman character intact.
intact. Specific traits includes elevating Ra's Al Ghul's Secret Society as the central pillar, responsible for training Batman, DoingInTheWizard with Ra's Al Ghul no longer being immortal but a title passed down in a secret society in a MasterApprenticeChain, Joker no longer having the show-biz motif and chemistry based gas gadgets but being a KnifeNut with byzantine manipulation skills and an AnarchyIsChaos sensibility.
* The ''Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse'' also took this approach both in relation to earlier films and the comics continuity:
** ''Film/ManOfSteel'' took this approach with Superman with the government military-industrial complex having an active presence and involvement in a plot, Superman's arrival being treated as a First Contact story, and streamlining many elements (such as Lois Lane knowing Superman's identity from the start) and Lex Luthor becoming a Mark Zuckerberg {{Hipster}} billionaire (being played by Creator/JesseEisenberg) rather than the older villain approach in the comics and previous films. Likewise, Superman ends up being the youngest and most recent of the superheroes.
** On the other hand Batman in ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' is an ExperiencedProtagonist, albeit one with a more loose attitude to the ThouShaltNotKill rule than his more well known adaptations, but he's more or less the character who is the most timeless and notable for being the first cinematic Batman since Creator/AdamWest to wear gray tights and have a costume that resembles his comics' counterpart. ''Film/SuicideSquad'' likewise has a very young Joker but who is otherwise closer to the comics character in being a showbiz driven chemistry obsessed gang leader than Creator/HeathLedger's evil philosopher.
** ''Film/WonderWoman2017'' is interesting since in her case the SettingUpdate is pushed back to UsefulNotes/WorldWarI and she's made into an immortal ageless hero. Her powers and costume and personality is common from the comics but on the other hand her lore is heavily streamlined in a manner not dissimilar to Ultimate Thor.
* ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'' is considered to be a more modern approach to the regular Marvel Universe.Universe at least in some respects but not in others.
** In general the characters are closer to the 616 originals, being ExperiencedProtagonist in the main rather than YoungerAndHipper. The series originally started with a more grounded science-fiction approach mirroring the aesthetics of Ultimate Marvel, from which it drew the concept of SHIELD as the linchpin of the entire events but eventually it led to a {{Reconstruction}} of the original continuity rather than the Ultimate continuity. SHIELD ended up being DemotedToExtra and the overall MythArc focuses on the Infinity Stones, which is shown to be both magical and scientific in nature.
** ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' on the other hand plays this straight. It took highly obscure characters and used it to provide WorldBuilding for the cosmic side of the Marvel universe, while updating the space opera concept of TheSixties and TheSeventies to a more UsedFuture aesthetic (similar to ''Franchise/StarWars'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''), while making the obscure Peter Quill/Star-Lord the son of [[spoiler:cosmic entity, Ego the Living Planet]].
** ''Film/AntMan'' and ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming'' streamlines both stories by featuring an OldSuperhero mentoring a newcomer (Hank Pym and Tony Stark respectively). The latter film likewise provides a major SettingUpdate to Spider-Man's KidHero origins and changes his cast, background and social circumstance far more than the Ultimate continuity did.
15th Jun '17 12:52:32 PM JoeMerl
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* ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales2017'' draws on [[WesternAnimation/DuckTales the original show]] and the ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse that it was based on, but modernized and with a few new elements.
9th Jun '17 3:30:29 PM nombretomado
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* ''The Wild Storm'' is this for the WildStorm Universe. It's worth nothing that the WSU was semi-rebooted once before, but never in a scale such as this.

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* ''The Wild Storm'' is this for the WildStorm {{Creator/Wildstorm}} Universe. It's worth nothing that the WSU was semi-rebooted once before, but never in a scale such as this.
3rd Jun '17 11:21:25 AM nombretomado
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* WhiteWolf's ''TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness'' is an Ultimate SpiritualSuccessor of the ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'', created to tighten focus, tweak rules mechanics, standardize rules between different gamelines, and replace a {{metaplot}} continuity that in just a little over a decade had become as convoluted and incomprehensible as any comic book universe with a more ambiguous, optional, and largely more internally consistent one.

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* WhiteWolf's Creator/WhiteWolf's ''TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness'' is an Ultimate SpiritualSuccessor of the ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'', created to tighten focus, tweak rules mechanics, standardize rules between different gamelines, and replace a {{metaplot}} continuity that in just a little over a decade had become as convoluted and incomprehensible as any comic book universe with a more ambiguous, optional, and largely more internally consistent one.
28th May '17 4:24:35 PM nombretomado
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** {{Warren Ellis}}' short-lived ''newuniversal'' is {{The New Universe}}'s Ultimate version.

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** {{Warren Creator/{{Warren Ellis}}' short-lived ''newuniversal'' is {{The New Universe}}'s Ultimate version.
18th May '17 5:23:05 AM Anddrix
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* The Franchise/{{Arrowverse}} is this to several DC Universe characters.

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* The Franchise/{{Arrowverse}} Series/{{Arrowverse}} is this to several DC Universe characters.
22nd Apr '17 5:43:06 PM nombretomado
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** ''SEED'' is a more explicit example, as it bears a lot of similarities to the original series and is sometimes called "21st Century First Gundam" by {{Sunrise}}.[[labelnote:*]]''First Gundam'' is a semi-official nickname for the original show.[[/labelnote]]

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** ''SEED'' is a more explicit example, as it bears a lot of similarities to the original series and is sometimes called "21st Century First Gundam" by {{Sunrise}}.Creator/{{Sunrise}}.[[labelnote:*]]''First Gundam'' is a semi-official nickname for the original show.[[/labelnote]]
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