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22nd Mar '17 1:20:40 PM BrendanRizzo
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* For that matter, it took a ''very'' long time for the general public to get the hint that Mars is uninhabitable. It may have been reasonable when ''Literature/WarOfTheWorlds'' was published in 1898 to presume that Mars could support indigenous intelligence, but a decade later it was very conclusively proven that there were no canals and that the Martian ice caps did not have enough water. Yet even science fiction writers paid this information no heed[[note]]possibly because of the influences of Percival Lowell and Hugo Gernsback, both of whom stubbornly stuck to the old idea despite the astronomical community turning against them[[/note]] and happily included advanced Martian civilizations even in "hard" SF until the space probes were launched, making them almost ''six'' decades behind. Outside the speculative fiction community, it took even longer to accept this.


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* One of the many reasons that Barbara G. Walker is all but ''persona non grata'' in the feminist community is because of this trope. The majority of her essays were written in the mid-'90s, yet almost all of their content consists of complaining about issues more relevant in the 1970s, while being completely out of touch with what modern feminists believe, and totally ignoring the plight of women of color and the LGBT community, as though Third and Fourth Wave feminism never happened.
22nd Mar '17 8:37:34 AM BrendanRizzo
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* ''Literature/TheFirstMenInTheMoon'', believe it or not. It was written in 1901, which is long after astronomers knew for certain that the Moon is an airless, lifeless world. Many assume that it was written thirty or forty years earlier, not just because of its portrayal of the Moon, but also because of confusion with Creator/{{Jules Verne}}'s ''Literature/FromTheEarthToTheMoon'', which really was written in the 1860s.
9th Mar '17 10:34:24 AM Mario500
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* A documentary show entitled ''[[https://archive.org/details/gov.archives.arc.54306 Channel 3 Moscow]]'', produced for American public television in TheEighties taking a look at Soviet television of the era, demonstrates this was apparently the approach with Soviet TV towards the USA. One feature criticizing American rock music doesn't seem to know the difference between Elvis and Twisted Sister, and juxtaposing it with old film from the '60s to show the alleged evils of rock. Another on extreme right wing movements deals with old footage of the KKK and American Nazisy which took footage from the documentary ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_California_Reich The California Reich]]'' made in 1975.

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* A documentary show entitled ''[[https://archive.org/details/gov.archives.arc.54306 Channel 3 Moscow]]'', produced for American public television in TheEighties taking a look at Soviet television of the era, demonstrates this was apparently the approach with Soviet TV towards the USA. One feature criticizing American rock music doesn't seem to know the difference between Elvis and Twisted Sister, and juxtaposing it with old film from the '60s to show the alleged evils of rock. Another on extreme right wing movements deals with old footage of the KKK and American Nazisy Nazis which took footage from the documentary ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_California_Reich The California Reich]]'' made in 1975.
26th Feb '17 4:50:00 PM lexiboothang3
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* ''Film/TheCraft'', released in 1996, has one teenager refer to another as looking like [[Series/WKRPInCincinnati Loni Anderson]], who was best known during the 1970s. The comparison was true, however. Also, the popular girl is openly racist, and her friends seem to be as well. At the very least, they back her up. This would not happen in the '90s at ''any'' school, let alone the affluent California school in the film.

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* ''Film/TheCraft'', released in 1996, has one teenager refer to another as looking like [[Series/WKRPInCincinnati Loni Anderson]], who was best known during the 1970s. The comparison was true, however. Also, the popular girl is openly racist, and her friends seem to be as well. At the very least, they back her up. [[RealityisUnrealistic This would not happen in the '90s at ''any'' school, let alone the affluent California school in the film.film]].
25th Feb '17 5:27:07 AM WillBGood
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* Many expats working in Japan or China would complain of antiquated office equipment such as fax machines, the inaccessibility of [=ATMs=] during certain hours, or the nonuniversal nature of some cards [=ATMs=] won't accept, especially foreign ones, and extremely slow internet despite Japan being a technological mecca. China has restrictive banking of bureaucratic stamping, analog police records, and use pen and paper, and in rural China some farmers continue to use old Stalin-era tractors. More rural places don't have [=ATMs=] and everything is done with cash, or even old bronze aged merchant scales. Some Chinese live in ancient mud huts that have existed since Jesus. UsefulNotes/Shanghai's Bund apartments are still inhabitable.

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* Many expats working in Japan or China would complain of antiquated office equipment such as fax machines, the inaccessibility of [=ATMs=] during certain hours, or the nonuniversal nature of some cards [=ATMs=] won't accept, especially foreign ones, and extremely slow internet despite Japan being a technological mecca. China has restrictive banking of bureaucratic stamping, analog police records, and use pen and paper, and in rural China some farmers continue to use old Stalin-era tractors. More rural places don't have [=ATMs=] and everything is done with cash, or even old bronze aged merchant scales. Some Chinese live in ancient mud huts that have existed since Jesus. UsefulNotes/Shanghai's UsefulNotes/{{Shanghai}}'s Bund apartments are still inhabitable.
25th Feb '17 5:03:37 AM WillBGood
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* British TV comedy ''Series/{{Butterflies}}'' is a prime example of this: a classic sitcom of middle-class suburban manners in which an aloof dentist is married to a dissatisfied housewife who dithers on the brink of an affair. They have two sons, meant to be hip and fashionable. But who in 1974 speak youth-argot which would have been dated even in 1964.

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* British TV comedy ''Series/{{Butterflies}}'' is a prime example of this: a classic sitcom of middle-class suburban manners in which an aloof dentist is married to a dissatisfied housewife who dithers on the brink of an affair. They have two sons, meant to be hip and fashionable. But fashionable, but who in 1974 speak youth-argot which would have been dated even in 1964.
25th Feb '17 4:51:31 AM WillBGood
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There's also one other reason why this persists in fiction today: the mere existence of smartphones and ubiquitous access to the modern internet are often enough to interfere with a story. Seriously, imagine a Chandleresque gumshoe tale taking place in a world of Iphones, laptop computers, and GPS. At a certain point, it just becomes easier to set the story in the past and not worry about all that.

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There's also one other reason why this persists in fiction today: the mere existence of smartphones and ubiquitous access to the modern internet are often enough to interfere with a story. Seriously, imagine a Chandleresque gumshoe tale taking place in a world of Iphones, smartphones, laptop computers, and GPS. At a certain point, it just becomes easier to set the story in the past and not worry about all that.
18th Feb '17 1:51:15 PM YasminPerry
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* These fads often crop up at least once per decade (see also: PopularityPolynomial). In the 2000s, 1980s nostalgia became a big cultural fad, with dance clubs hosting sporadic "80's Dance Nights" and singers like Music/LadyGaga and Music/KatyPerry unabashedly embracing 80's fashion and music styling. Similarly, during the 90's, 70's nostalgia swept the nation. Hence films like ''Film/DazedAndConfused'' and the fact that, at the time, you couldn't walk into a dance hall without hearing the blaring sounds of "YMCA" and "In The Navy", and people (mostly girls) started wearing bell-bottoms again. In TheNewTens, 80s nostalgia is slowly being phased out in favor of 90's nostalgia. Although 90's themed fads and period pieces seem to be far less common than those based on the 70's and 80's, probably because the 90's are a much harder decade to accurately represent.

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* These fads often crop up at least once per decade (see also: PopularityPolynomial). In the 2000s, 1980s nostalgia became a big cultural fad, with dance clubs hosting sporadic "80's Dance Nights" and singers like Music/LadyGaga and Music/KatyPerry unabashedly embracing 80's fashion and music styling. Similarly, during the 90's, 70's nostalgia swept the nation. Hence films like ''Film/DazedAndConfused'' and the fact that, at the time, you couldn't walk into a dance hall without hearing the blaring sounds of "YMCA" and "In The Navy", and people (mostly girls) started wearing bell-bottoms again. In TheNewTens, 80s nostalgia is slowly being phased out in favor of 90's nostalgia. Although 90's themed fads and period pieces seem to be far less common than those based on the 70's and 80's, probably because the 90's are a much harder decade to accurately represent. 2000s nostalgia will probably kick in around 2020.
25th Jan '17 2:49:12 PM Kid
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** Even worse, your average grandparent nowadays was growing up when rock and roll was becoming popular, making the episode ''two generations'' behind.
14th Jan '17 9:28:11 AM SpocktorWho
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* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', Dean listens to music from the '70s and '80s on his collection of ''cassette tapes'', while driving his late-'60s muscle car. It's a shaky example, as Dean has a strong emotional attachment to his car and simply likes the older music, but it's less clear why he thinks Sam installing an iPod jack is heresy.

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* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', Dean listens to music from the '70s and '80s on his collection of ''cassette tapes'', while driving his late-'60s muscle car. It's a shaky example, Mostly justified, as Dean has a strong emotional attachment to his car and simply likes the older music, music (both of which are a connection to his father), but it's less clear why he thinks Sam installing an iPod jack is heresy.heresy. Later seasons do show them updating their phones to modern smartphones, however, and becoming aware of things like Netflix.
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