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9th Aug '17 12:37:05 PM Eievie
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* Myth/ClassicalMythology: In Ovid's ''Literature/{{Metamorphoses}}'', the story of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byblis Byblis]] and Kaunos.

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* Myth/ClassicalMythology: In Ovid's ''Literature/{{Metamorphoses}}'', the story of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byblis Byblis]] and Kaunos.Kaunos is a one-sided case. While Byblis likes him, and admits her feelings, he is completely disgusted by her affection.
9th Aug '17 12:34:28 PM Eievie
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* In traditional Bali culture, fraternal twins (known as ''kembar buncing'') are assumed to have had sex in the womb. If they were born to a poor family, their entire family would be thrown out of town for 42 days and all religious ceremonies would be called off for that period. If they were born to the royal family, however, they would be betrothed to each other.
* Myth/ClassicalMythology: In Ovid's ''Literature/{{Metamorphoses}}'', the story of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byblis Byblis]] and Kaunos.
* Myth/EgyptianMythology: Osiris, Isis, Set, and Nephthys were all quadruplets who fell in love while still in the womb together, forming two couples: Osiris/Isis, and Set/Nephthys.



* Myth/NorseMythology: In "Lokasenna" of the ''Literature/PoeticEdda'', Loki accuses [[ThemeTwinNaming Freyr and Freyja]], the sibling fertility deities, of sleeping together, though it's unclear whether this is "truth" or not.
* In the ''Literature/VolsungaSaga'', Sigmund is seduced by his sister Signy in disguise, as she believes only in this way she can conceive a son that is strong and loyal enough to help Sigmund avenge their brothers and father on their killer, Signy's treacherous husband Siggeir.
* Myth/EgyptianMythology had Osiris and Isis, as well as Set and Nephthys, the four of which were all quadruplets who fell in love while still in the womb together.

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* Myth/NorseMythology: Myth/NorseMythology:
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In "Lokasenna" of the ''Literature/PoeticEdda'', Loki accuses [[ThemeTwinNaming Freyr and Freyja]], the sibling fertility deities, of sleeping together, though it's unclear whether this is "truth" or not.
* ** In the ''Literature/VolsungaSaga'', Sigmund is seduced by his sister Signy in disguise, as she believes only in this way she can conceive a son that is strong and loyal enough to help Sigmund avenge their brothers and father on their killer, Signy's treacherous husband Siggeir.
* Myth/EgyptianMythology had Osiris and Isis, as well as Set and Nephthys, the four of which were all quadruplets who fell in love while still in the womb together.
Siggeir.



* The story of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byblis Byblis]] and Kaunos in Ovid's ''Literature/{{Metamorphoses}}''.
* In traditional Bali culture, fraternal twins (known as ''kembar buncing'') are assumed to have had sex in the womb. If they were born to a poor family, their entire family would be thrown out of town for 42 days and all religious ceremonies would be called off for that period. If they were born to the royal family, however, they would be betrothed to each other.
7th Aug '17 8:53:32 PM Eievie
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An old Japanese myth says that if two star-crossed lovers commit dual suicide, they get reincarnated as twins. This may be one of the factors in the frequency of Twincest stories in {{anime}}. In this case, RedStringOfFate and, as a whole, esoteric-religious motives sach ReincarnationRomance can be used as a justification for obviously taboo relations

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An old Japanese myth says that if two star-crossed lovers commit dual suicide, they get reincarnated as twins. This may be one of the factors in the frequency of Twincest stories in {{anime}}. In this case, RedStringOfFate and, as a whole, esoteric-religious motives sach such ReincarnationRomance can be used as a justification for obviously taboo relations
relations.

In a broader religious or mythological context, this trope can be regarded as OlderThanFeudalism, given the many similar myths in different nations where twincest is directly mentioned or implied in the context of couples from HalfIdenticalTwin gods who are portrayed as appointed to become husband and wife, or as the first people in general.



And besides all this, in a religious or mythological context, this trope can be regarded as OlderThanFeudalism, given the many similar myths in different nations where twincest is directly mentioned or implied in the context of couples from HalfIdenticalTwin gods (EgyptianMythology even includes the marriage of two brothers and two sisters from the quadruplets) who are portrayed as appointed to become husband and wife, or as the first people in general.



A subtrope of BrotherSisterIncest. If it's just implied, then it overlaps with IncestSubtext. It's also important not to make mistakes with other BrotherSisterIncest couples, since, due to the popularity of this trope and the idea of ​​a spiritual bond of twins, many "ordinary" couples between brother and sister can imitate many twincest cliche elements. And of course, sometimes even Twincest isn't quite incestuous enough for the writers, and that's when you get ScrewYourself.

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A subtrope of BrotherSisterIncest. If it's just implied, then it overlaps with IncestSubtext. It's also important not to make mistakes with other BrotherSisterIncest couples, since, due to the popularity of this trope and the idea of ​​a a spiritual bond of twins, many "ordinary" couples between brother and sister can imitate many twincest cliche cliché elements. And of course, sometimes even Twincest isn't quite incestuous enough for the writers, and that's when you get ScrewYourself.






* Myth/EgyptianMythology had Osiris and Isis, as well as Set and Nephthys, the four of which were all twins who fell in love while still in the womb together.

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* Myth/EgyptianMythology had Osiris and Isis, as well as Set and Nephthys, the four of which were all twins quadruplets who fell in love while still in the womb together.



* In traditional Bali culture, fraternal twins (known as kembar buncing) are assumed to have had sex in the womb. If they were born to a poor family, their entire family would be thrown out of town for 42 days and all religious ceremonies would be called off for that period. If they were born to the royal family, however, they would be betrothed to each other.

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* In traditional Bali culture, fraternal twins (known as kembar buncing) ''kembar buncing'') are assumed to have had sex in the womb. If they were born to a poor family, their entire family would be thrown out of town for 42 days and all religious ceremonies would be called off for that period. If they were born to the royal family, however, they would be betrothed to each other.
5th Aug '17 7:28:00 AM Seadragonfics
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* [[SaintSeiya Saint Seiya]] twins [[MrFanservice Gemini Saga]] and [[EvilTwin Gemini Kanon]] make one of the most popular and accepted couples among slash and yaoi fans in this series both in the manga and anime because of their dramatic and conflictive relationship as twin brothers who love and hate each other. Fandom, as we can see [[http://saintseiyayaoi.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=dac7ffcda68cb94e14996c299a5a6d73&board=72.0 here]] finds quite interesting the fact of imagine that both share more than "brotherly love" (aka. twincest) during their lives despite of being separated during 13 years.
**The same happens in Saint Seiya spin off: [[SaintSeiyaTheLostCanvas Saint Seiya The Lost Canvas]] with the twins [[AmbitionIsEvil Aspros]] and [[BigBrotherWorship Defteros]].
**And the same goes with [[SeparatedAtBirth Separated at birth]] twins Mizar Syd and Alcor Bud from Asgard Saga.
30th Jul '17 6:22:28 AM LittleBuster
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* ''VisualNovel/YosugaNoSora'' is practically TropeCodifier of this trope for HGame and especially anime, gradually and in detail depicting the development of romantic feelings between HalfIdenticalTwins Sora and Haruka Kasugano and their different approaches in the awareness and acceptance of their feelings for each other.
30th Jul '17 6:16:27 AM LittleBuster
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* ''Anime/MyselfYourself'' has twins Shuri and Shusuke with a particularly strong relationship in the face of ParentalAbandonment, with a later rumor even claiming a more illicit relationship. [[spoiler:Under threat of separation, they run away together near the end]]. The DistantFinale strongly suggests that the {{subtext}} has become ''canon''.

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* ''Anime/MyselfYourself'' has twins Shuri and Shusuke with a particularly strong relationship in the face of ParentalAbandonment, with a later rumor even claiming a more illicit relationship. [[spoiler:Under threat of separation, they run away together near the end]]. The DistantFinale strongly suggests that goes on, giving them a strange MaybeEverAfter the {{subtext}} has become ''canon''.end, where they attend a concert of main characters, holding hands. The original game at the same time plays with it, [[spoiler: giving the both twins the other LoveInterest, but at the same time having a scene with Shusuke in the route of his sister, where he confesses to one-sided feelings towards her.]] Nevertheless, despite all the ambiguity, it's still {{Fanon}} among fans.
30th Jul '17 5:40:02 AM Doodler
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* The show runner of ''Series/{{Riverdale}}'' also worked on ''ComicBook/AfterlifeWithArchie'', and the idea of twincestuous Cheryl and Jason Blosson has carried over, even with Jason being a PosthumousCharacter. The ''aesthetic'' of twincest is played with a lot. In the opening scene (their EstablishingCharacterMoment) Cheryl and Jason are framed like a couple: Wearing {{coordinated clothes}}, {{holding hands}}, going on what looks like a OldFashionedRowboatDate, all with a love song paying. Cheryl once describes Jason as her "soulmate". They are seen in a flashback SweetheartSipping. After loosing him, Cheryl is referred to as a "Red Widow". There also shades of twincest in Cheryl's interest in Archie, because Archie resembles Jason so much. In episode 10, it's actually called out by in-universe by Veronica, who attempting to turn around Cheryl's attempt to bully her and the rest of the gang. However, those accusations appear to made up on the spot out of spite, not based on any concrete evidence. And despite this aesthetic, it [[SubvertedTropeseems that they weren't actually a couple]]: [[spoiler:Jason was determined to be with his third-cousin Polly.]]

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* The show runner of ''Series/{{Riverdale}}'' also worked on ''ComicBook/AfterlifeWithArchie'', and the idea of twincestuous Cheryl and Jason Blosson has carried over, even with Jason being a PosthumousCharacter. The ''aesthetic'' of twincest is played with a lot. In the opening scene (their EstablishingCharacterMoment) Cheryl and Jason are framed like a couple: Wearing {{coordinated clothes}}, {{holding hands}}, going on what looks like a OldFashionedRowboatDate, all with a love song paying. Cheryl once describes Jason as her "soulmate". They are seen in a flashback SweetheartSipping. After loosing him, Cheryl is referred to as a "Red Widow". There also shades of twincest in Cheryl's interest in Archie, because Archie resembles Jason so much. In episode 10, it's actually called out by in-universe by Veronica, who attempting to turn around Cheryl's attempt to bully her and the rest of the gang. However, those accusations appear to made up on the spot out of spite, not based on any concrete evidence. And despite this aesthetic, it [[SubvertedTropeseems [[SubvertedTrope seems that they weren't actually a couple]]: [[spoiler:Jason was determined to be with his third-cousin Polly.]]
12th Jul '17 4:00:51 PM DarkHunter
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* Subverted in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'': Kira and his SeparatedAtBirth twin sister Cagalli meet in the first episode, neither knowing they're related. When they reunite further in the series, Cagalli comforts the emotionally ragged Kira in a purely platonic way. This is ironically taken as a threat by Flay, Kira's screwed-up girlfriend ([[MindGameShip it's not a healthy relationship]]), despite the fact there's no romantic attraction to it. Further toyed with when Cagalli displays a LuminescentBlush at overhearing Flay admit to her ex-fiance Sai that she and Kira have slept together, and when Kira's adoptive parents Caridad and Haruma (who are aware of Cagalli's identity, [[spoiler:as the mother rescued both twins as babies from the place where their biological parents died]]) show a bit of alarm when Cagalli hugs Kira goodbye.

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* Subverted in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'': Kira and his SeparatedAtBirth twin sister Cagalli meet in the first episode, neither knowing they're related. When they reunite further in the series, Cagalli comforts the emotionally ragged Kira in a purely platonic way. This is ironically taken as a threat by Flay, Kira's screwed-up girlfriend ([[MindGameShip it's not a healthy relationship]]), despite the fact there's no romantic attraction to it. Further toyed with when Cagalli displays a LuminescentBlush at overhearing Flay admit to her ex-fiance Sai that she and Kira have slept together, and when Kira's adoptive parents Caridad and Haruma (who are aware of Cagalli's identity, [[spoiler:as the mother rescued both twins as babies from the place where their biological parents died]]) show a bit of alarm when Cagalli hugs Kira goodbye. They're informed of their true relationship before things have a chance to go any further.
12th Jul '17 11:28:07 AM LittleBuster
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And besides all this, in a religious or mythological context, this trope can be regarded as OlderThanFeudalism, given the many similar myths in different nations where twincest is directly mentioned or implied in the context of couples from HalfIdenticalTwin gods (EgyptianMythology even includes the marriage of two brothers and two sisters from the quadruplets) who are portrayed as either husband or wife's destination, or as the first people in general.

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And besides all this, in a religious or mythological context, this trope can be regarded as OlderThanFeudalism, given the many similar myths in different nations where twincest is directly mentioned or implied in the context of couples from HalfIdenticalTwin gods (EgyptianMythology even includes the marriage of two brothers and two sisters from the quadruplets) who are portrayed as either appointed to become husband or wife's destination, and wife, or as the first people in general.
12th Jul '17 11:24:34 AM LittleBuster
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In other variations, the twins know perfectly well that they're related, and might like each other all the more for it--if you believe in OneTrueLove, soulmates being born together does make a certain kind of sense. MindlinkMates and TwinTelepathy definitely have parallels. Commonly, the ''twins in question'' believe they're soulmates, but ''everyone else'' has a NoJustNoReaction.

An old Japanese myth says that if two star-crossed lovers commit dual suicide, they get reincarnated as twins. This may be one of the factors in the frequency of Twincest stories in {{anime}}.

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In other variations, the twins know perfectly well that they're related, and might like each other all the more for it--if you believe in OneTrueLove, soulmates being born together does make a certain kind of sense. MindlinkMates and TwinTelepathy definitely have parallels. Ultimately, although this is fairly exploitational, such a rationale is the simplest and most common in modern works where twins enter into romantic or sexual relations deliberately and voluntarily. Commonly, the ''twins in question'' believe they're soulmates, but ''everyone else'' has a NoJustNoReaction.

NoJustNoReaction.

An old Japanese myth says that if two star-crossed lovers commit dual suicide, they get reincarnated as twins. This may be one of the factors in the frequency of Twincest stories in {{anime}}.
{{anime}}. In this case, RedStringOfFate and, as a whole, esoteric-religious motives sach ReincarnationRomance can be used as a justification for obviously taboo relations



And besides all this, in a religious or mythological context, this trope can be regarded as OlderThanFeudalism, given the many similar myths in different nations where twincest is directly mentioned or implied in the context of couples from HalfIdenticalTwin gods (EgyptianMythology even includes the marriage of two brothers and two sisters from the quadruplets) who are portrayed as either husband or wife's destination, or as the first people in general.



A subtrope of BrotherSisterIncest. If it's just implied, then it overlaps with IncestSubtext. And of course, sometimes even Twincest isn't quite incestuous enough for the writers, and that's when you get ScrewYourself.

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A subtrope of BrotherSisterIncest. If it's just implied, then it overlaps with IncestSubtext. It's also important not to make mistakes with other BrotherSisterIncest couples, since, due to the popularity of this trope and the idea of ​​a spiritual bond of twins, many "ordinary" couples between brother and sister can imitate many twincest cliche elements. And of course, sometimes even Twincest isn't quite incestuous enough for the writers, and that's when you get ScrewYourself.
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