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->'''Holmes''': That's not a clue Watson, that's your jar of jam.\\
'''New Watson''': JAM!\\
'''Old Watson''': Holmes, please....\\
'''Holmes''': New Watson likes jam. We're very happy.
-->-- "[[Webcomic/HarkAVagrant The Case Of The Two Watsons]]," [[http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=210 Kate Beaton]]

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-->-- "[[Webcomic/HarkAVagrant The Case Of The Two Watsons]]," [[http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=210 Kate Beaton]]
'''Screenwriter''': He used to be, but now I need things to happen really fast, so that's all over!
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** Fighter himself could also be considered a victim of this trope. Initially, he was simply TheFool with an intense sword obsession. For the past few hundred comics, he's essentially been a total idiot.



** Fighter himself could also be considered a victim of this trope. Initially, he was simply TheFool with an intense sword obsession. For the past few hundred comics, he's essentially been a total idiot.
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* Twilight and her friends in ''Fanfic/MyBravePonyStarfleetMagic''. When meeting Rhymey during his visit in Equestria, they all mistake him for a crossdressing Fluttershy. Bonus points go to Rarity, who outright states she has no problem that "she" completely transformed herself with magic into a male. The remake tries to address this by making them believe that she is disguised, which manages to make them look even dumber.
* Yang has a mild case of this in ''FanFic/ReactWatchBelieveYikes''. She's generally a bit slower on the uptake compared to the others and is less book-smart than in canon.
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* Twilight and her friends in ''Fanfic/MyBravePonyStarfleetMagic''. When meeting Rhymey during his visit in Equestria, they all mistake him for a crossdressing Fluttershy. Bonus points go to Rarity, who outright states she has no problem that "she" completely transformed herself with magic into a male. The remake tries to address this by making them believe that she is disguised, which manages to make them look even dumber.
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* ''Franchise/{{Garfield}}'': Jon Arbuckle, Garfield's owner. He started as a perfectly ordinary young man. Come the early-2000's, and he's a total moron who finds interest in mundane activities, mistakes a sudoku for a crossword, and mistakes an upside down restaurant menu for French. It was around the same time he was [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] into being the StrawLoser to Garfield.
* ''Franchise/{{Peanuts}}'': Sally Brown started out as reasonably naïve and childish before devolving into a full-on TheDitz who made hilariously inaccurate school reports.

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* ''Franchise/{{Garfield}}'': ''ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}'': Jon Arbuckle, Garfield's owner. He started as a perfectly ordinary young man. Come the early-2000's, and he's a total moron who finds interest in mundane activities, mistakes a sudoku for a crossword, and mistakes an upside down restaurant menu for French. It was around the same time he was [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] into being the StrawLoser to Garfield.
* ''Franchise/{{Peanuts}}'': ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'': Sally Brown started out as reasonably naïve and childish before devolving into a full-on TheDitz who made hilariously inaccurate school reports.


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* ''WebComic/EightBitTheater'':
** Bikke the pirate was actually fairly ruthless and cunning when he first appeared (well, compared to Garland and the heroes, anyway). At this point, his intelligence is viewed as on par with [[TheDitz Fighter's]]. In fact, he's probably worse since he's not even literate.
** D'rizzl actually ''inverted'' this trope, by taking levels in Smartass. Complete with a 50-point IQ hike.
* Nick in ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'', who went from "stereotypical dim-bulb grunt" to an extreme [[TheDitz ditz]].
* In ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' Sam "Da Man" Sein's intelligence has been plummeting ever since he became a vampire.
** Fighter himself could also be considered a victim of this trope. Initially, he was simply TheFool with an intense sword obsession. For the past few hundred comics, he's essentially been a total idiot.
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* ''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}'': The [[PointyHairedBoss defining character trait]] of Dilbert's boss was a result of this. In the earlier strips he was just a regular BadBoss who was more likely to be shown performing evil experiments on his employees than [[TheDitz losing at chess to a pineapple]]. And done deliberately in one strip where a new guy transitions from appearing to be smarter than everyone else in the team to having neanderthal-level intelligence over the course of a ''three-panel comic''.
* ''ComicStrip/FoxTrot'': Roger, the father figure. In the earliest years of the strip, he was a competent enough patriarch, though a bit harried and somewhat of a SmallNameBigEgo. As the strip went through ReverseCerebusSyndrome, his intelligence dropped severely and his occasional bouts of incompetence (he was a WalkingTechbane from the first month onward) became exaggerated to match.
* ''Franchise/{{Garfield}}'': Jon Arbuckle, Garfield's owner. He started as a perfectly ordinary young man. Come the early-2000's, and he's a total moron who finds interest in mundane activities, mistakes a sudoku for a crossword, and mistakes an upside down restaurant menu for French. It was around the same time he was [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] into being the StrawLoser to Garfield.
* ''Franchise/{{Peanuts}}'': Sally Brown started out as reasonably naïve and childish before devolving into a full-on TheDitz who made hilariously inaccurate school reports.
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->"This is amazing. Are all the babyfaces on this show [[GoodIsDumb completely stupid]]? I'm not even talking kind of naive, or dopey, or just even low-IQ; I mean 'dangerously-unable-to-function-on-his-own' stupid. Like, 'If you gave this guy a cup of applesauce and a spoon, [[TooDumbToLive he would probably drown]]'-stupid. Because that's what Wrestling/MickFoley and Wrestling/JeffJarrett are like on this show."
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Noah Antwiler]]''' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c50zX2dBYHo#t=4400s on]] ''{{Wrestling/TNA}} [=iMPACT=]'' 9.23.12

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->"This is amazing. Are all the babyfaces on this show [[GoodIsDumb completely stupid]]? I'm ->'''Holmes''': That's not even talking kind of naive, or dopey, or just even low-IQ; I mean 'dangerously-unable-to-function-on-his-own' stupid. Like, 'If you gave this guy a cup of applesauce and a spoon, [[TooDumbToLive he would probably drown]]'-stupid. Because clue Watson, that's what Wrestling/MickFoley and Wrestling/JeffJarrett are like on this show."
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Noah Antwiler]]''' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c50zX2dBYHo#t=4400s on]] ''{{Wrestling/TNA}} [=iMPACT=]'' 9.23.12
your jar of jam.\\
'''New Watson''': JAM!\\
'''Old Watson''': Holmes, please....\\
'''Holmes''': New Watson likes jam. We're very happy.
-->-- "[[Webcomic/HarkAVagrant The Case Of The Two Watsons]]," [[http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=210 Kate Beaton]]
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->'''Caboose:''' I know where you can find O'Malley. He lived inside my helmet for a while, maybe he left an address to send his mail. We were like roommates.\\
'''Sarge:''' Sounds like he took some of the furniture when he left. And the carpet. And the drapes. And I wouldn't expect to get that deposit back, if you know what I mean.
-->-- ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'', "Episode 39"

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->'''Caboose:''' ->"This is amazing. Are all the babyfaces on this show [[GoodIsDumb completely stupid]]? I'm not even talking kind of naive, or dopey, or just even low-IQ; I know where mean 'dangerously-unable-to-function-on-his-own' stupid. Like, 'If you can find O'Malley. He lived inside my helmet for gave this guy a while, maybe cup of applesauce and a spoon, [[TooDumbToLive he left an address to send his mail. We were would probably drown]]'-stupid. Because that's what Wrestling/MickFoley and Wrestling/JeffJarrett are like roommates.\\
'''Sarge:''' Sounds like he took some of the furniture when he left. And the carpet. And the drapes. And I wouldn't expect to get that deposit back, if you know what I mean.
-->-- ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'', "Episode 39"
on this show."
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Noah Antwiler]]''' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c50zX2dBYHo#t=4400s on]] ''{{Wrestling/TNA}} [=iMPACT=]'' 9.23.12
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* ''Animation/HappyHeroes'': In Season 8 episode 4, Big M. uses a special powder that makes any affected targets dumber. He uses it on Sweet S. so that he can get the fire wand from her, but then he needs help from drowning in a big cauldron and all nearby sources of help, including Little M. and Huo Haha, completely fail to actually get him out of the cauldron since they drank water contaminated with the powder. ''Oops.''
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Generally PlayedForLaughs. Sometimes used on the supporting characters to make the hero look more competent. Or sometimes, it's just that the show gets a pack of new writers and they turn the guy into a moron for kicks. It should be noted that [[TropesAreNotBad this isn't always a bad thing]]. In some cases, viewers may find the over the top idiocy more entertaining than the original concept, or that giving them some idiotic traits make them more of a RoundedCharacter.

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Generally PlayedForLaughs. Sometimes used on the supporting characters to make the hero look more competent. Or sometimes, it's just that the show gets a pack of new writers and they turn the guy into a moron for kicks. It should be noted that [[TropesAreNotBad [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools this isn't always a bad thing]]. In some cases, viewers may find the over the top idiocy more entertaining than the original concept, or that giving them some idiotic traits make them more of a RoundedCharacter.
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->'''Caboose''': I know where you can find O'Malley. He lived inside my helmet for a while, maybe he left an address to send his mail. We were like roommates.
-> '''Sarge''': Sounds like he took some of the furniture when he left. And the carpet. And the drapes. And I wouldn't expect to get that deposit back, if you know what I mean.

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May result in a typical IdiotHero degenerating into TooDumbToLive. Compare ForgotAboutHisPowers and TookALevelInJerkass. Contrast TookALevelInBadass and DumbassNoMore.

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May result in a typical IdiotHero degenerating into TooDumbToLive. Compare ForgotAboutHisPowers and TookALevelInJerkass. Contrast TookALevelInBadass and DumbassNoMore.
DumbassNoMore. If this happens when one works gets adapted to another medium rather than occurring within the same work, see AdaptationalDumbass.
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A specific subtrope of {{Flanderization}} (and occasionally {{Jerkass}} also). As a series progresses, characters sometimes become more and more stupid as time goes on. Usually the reason is related to the BadassDecay phenomenon, but with the character's level of intelligence rather than his ability to kick ass, following something along the following cycle: an episode in which the characters acts like a total buffoon gets good ratings, so another one is made. It too gets good ratings. So they make another. And another. Eventually the character is so dumb that you wonder how he manages to walk across a room without injuring himself, and pretty soon everyone forgets that the character was anything other than a complete moron. For this very reason and the fact that it's easier to write comedy that involves dumb people, this trope is rather frequent in any comedy series.

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A specific subtrope of {{Flanderization}} (and occasionally {{Jerkass}} also). As a series progresses, characters sometimes become more and more stupid as time goes on. Usually the reason is related to the BadassDecay phenomenon, but with the character's level of intelligence rather than his ability to kick ass, following something along the following cycle: an episode in which the characters acts like a total buffoon gets good ratings, so another one is made. It too gets good ratings. So they make another. And another. Eventually the character is so dumb that you wonder how he manages to walk across a room without injuring himself, and pretty soon everyone forgets that the character was ever anything other than a complete moron. For this very reason and the fact that it's easier to write comedy that involves dumb people, this trope is rather frequent in any comedy series.
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->'''Suzaku''': Apparently if you score negative on an IQ test, you can get a free pass out of anything!
->'''Lelouche''': You did so bad you owe points?
->'''Suzaku''': I DID BAD?!
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->'''Caboose''': I know where you can find O'Malley. [[BodySurf He lived inside my helmet for a while]], maybe he left an address to send his mail. We were like roommates.
-> '''Sarge''': Sounds like he took some of the furniture when he left. [[EscalatingPunchline And the carpet. And the drapes.]] [[{{Metaphorgotten}} And I wouldn't expect to get that deposit back, if you know what I mean.]]

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->'''Caboose''': I know where you can find O'Malley. [[BodySurf He lived inside my helmet for a while]], while, maybe he left an address to send his mail. We were like roommates.
-> '''Sarge''': Sounds like he took some of the furniture when he left. [[EscalatingPunchline And the carpet. And the drapes.]] [[{{Metaphorgotten}} And I wouldn't expect to get that deposit back, if you know what I mean.]]
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Generally PlayedForLaughs. Sometimes used on the supporting characters to make the hero look more competent. It should be noted that [[TropesAreNotBad this isn't always a bad thing]]. In some cases, viewers may find the over the top idiocy of a character more entertaining than the character's original concept. Or sometimes, it's just that the show gets a pack of new writers and they turn the guy into a moron for kicks.

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Generally PlayedForLaughs. Sometimes used on the supporting characters to make the hero look more competent. Or sometimes, it's just that the show gets a pack of new writers and they turn the guy into a moron for kicks. It should be noted that [[TropesAreNotBad this isn't always a bad thing]]. In some cases, viewers may find the over the top idiocy of a character more entertaining than the character's original concept. Or sometimes, it's just concept, or that the show gets a pack giving them some idiotic traits make them more of new writers and they turn the guy into a moron for kicks.
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May result in a typical IdiotHero degenerating into TooDumbToLive. Compare TookALevelInJerkass. Contrast TookALevelInBadass and DumbassNoMore.

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May result in a typical IdiotHero degenerating into TooDumbToLive. Compare TookALevelInJerkass. Contrast TookALevelInBadass and DumbassNoMore.

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May result in a typical IdiotHero degenerating into TooDumbToLive. Contrast TookALevelInBadass and DumbassNoMore.

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May result in a typical IdiotHero degenerating into TooDumbToLive. Compare TookALevelInJerkass. Contrast TookALevelInBadass and DumbassNoMore.

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A specific subtrope of {{Flanderization}} (and occasionally {{Jerkass}} also). As a series progresses, characters sometimes become more and more stupid as time goes on. Usually the reason is related to the BadassDecay phenomenon, but with the character's level of intelligence rather than his ability to kick ass, following something along the following cycle: an episode in which the characters acts like a total buffoon gets good ratings, so another one is made. It too gets good ratings. So they make another. And another. Eventually the character is so dumb that you wonder how he manages to walk across a room without injuring himself, and pretty soon everyone forgets that the character was anything other than a complete moron. For this very reason, this trope is rather frequent in any comedy series.

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A specific subtrope of {{Flanderization}} (and occasionally {{Jerkass}} also). As a series progresses, characters sometimes become more and more stupid as time goes on. Usually the reason is related to the BadassDecay phenomenon, but with the character's level of intelligence rather than his ability to kick ass, following something along the following cycle: an episode in which the characters acts like a total buffoon gets good ratings, so another one is made. It too gets good ratings. So they make another. And another. Eventually the character is so dumb that you wonder how he manages to walk across a room without injuring himself, and pretty soon everyone forgets that the character was anything other than a complete moron. For this very reason, reason and the fact that it's easier to write comedy that involves dumb people, this trope is rather frequent in any comedy series.

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