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5th Nov '16 1:58:24 AM Siempie
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* PlayedForLaughs in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse''. In the episode "The Kindergarten Kid", Peridot and Steven spend the entire episode trying to catch a corrupted gem. When none of Peridot's traps work, Steven suggests she "tries seeing things from [the monster's] perspective". Peridot's idea of doing this is imitating the monster. By lightly jumping up and down and sticking her tongue in the air. It works, until Peridot decides to kick her, pissing her off.
18th Oct '16 7:04:17 AM Duffan
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19th Sep '16 6:19:26 AM SilentStranger
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* When Comicbook/TheKingpin hires Bullseye to kill Frank Castle in ''Comicbook/ThePunisherMAX'', he decides the best way to understand him is to go through the same experiences. So he has the Kingpin's goons kidnap a family, tie them up [[StartOfDarkness at a picnic at the park and execute them]]. [[CrossesTheLineTwice Three times.]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards The Kingpin is not amused]], but apparently [[ArmorPiercingQuestion it]] [[HeroicBSOD worked]] [[DownerEnding in the end.]]
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* When Comicbook/TheKingpin hires Bullseye to kill Frank Castle in ''Comicbook/ThePunisherMAX'', Bullseye first fails to kill Frank when he decides shows up and tries to snipe the best way Kingpin. With his first attempt a failure, Bullseye embarks on a quest to understand him is get inside Frank Castle's head by sleeping in his old hideouts, wearing his clothes, eating his food, and finally, to go through try and recreate what created the same experiences. So he has Punisher in the Kingpin's goons kidnap a family, tie first place - by kidnapping families, then having them up [[StartOfDarkness at a picnic at murdered in the park while pretending he's the father. He repeats this ''three times'', but still doesnt succeed, until he spends a week isolated in a room while staring at old family photos of Frank and execute them]]. [[CrossesTheLineTwice Three times.]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards The Kingpin is not amused]], but apparently [[ArmorPiercingQuestion it]] [[HeroicBSOD worked]] [[DownerEnding in his family, and finally realizes something that no one else has: [[spoiler: Frank's last words to Lisa before she and the end.]]
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15th Sep '16 1:30:09 AM PaulA
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* The whole reason children, and specifically Ender, are trained the way they are in ''EndersGame''. Only someone who completely sympathises with and understands the buggers can predict their tactics and defeat them, but [[spoiler:anyone who could understand them that well couldn't bring themselves to wipe them out. So you train children up and don't let them know they're already commanding real armies in real war; an adult would see through this. (Also, they have nimble video-game-playing fingers.)]]

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* The whole reason children, and specifically Ender, are trained the way they are in ''EndersGame''.''Literature/EndersGame''. Only someone who completely sympathises with and understands the buggers can predict their tactics and defeat them, but [[spoiler:anyone who could understand them that well couldn't bring themselves to wipe them out. So you train children up and don't let them know they're already commanding real armies in real war; an adult would see through this. (Also, they have nimble video-game-playing fingers.)]]
2nd Jun '16 12:40:38 PM eroock
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Compare: ConsultingAConvictedKiller, where the law-abiding protagonists ask a dangerous criminal with a background much similar to the person on the loose to try to suss out how the criminal mind works.

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Compare: Compare ConsultingAConvictedKiller, where the law-abiding protagonists ask a dangerous criminal with a background much similar to the person on the loose to try to suss out how the criminal mind works.works. Contrast ThatsWhatIWouldDo.
22nd May '16 10:37:56 AM Quanyails
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* In the 1920's World Chess Champion Jose Raul Capablanca was unbeatable. In one particular 8 year span, he never suffered a single loss. His style defined coolness and precision at that time. He was challenged by Alexander Alekhin, a man who never won against him. Alekhin's style was fiery and risk loving, or in other words, he was easy prey for Capablanca. In 1926, Capablanca's cool and precise style sat down to meet Alekhin's - cool and precise style! In the months preceding the match, Alekhin completely analyzed and dissected Capablanca's style (such preparation was unheard of during that time). He determined that the only way to win was to out-Capablanca Capablanca. He tightly controlled his aggressive and risky tendencies. He even agreed to easy draws because that was how Capablanca would play that position. It worked. Alekhin became the next World Chess Champion.
* The above Batman Begins example was deconstructed by stand-up comedian Reginald D. Hunter, pointing out that it was just a way to do what you want. Point in hand, he uses it as an excuse if someone takes offence to his Josef Fritzl routine.

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* In the 1920's World Chess Champion Jose Raul Capablanca was unbeatable. In one particular 8 year span, he never suffered a single loss. His style defined coolness and precision at that time. He was challenged by Alexander Alekhin, a man who never won against him. Alekhin's style was fiery and risk loving, or in other words, he was easy prey for Capablanca. In 1926, Capablanca's cool and precise style sat down to meet Alekhin's - cool Alekhin's--cool and precise style! In the months preceding the match, Alekhin completely analyzed and dissected Capablanca's style (such preparation was unheard of during that time). He determined that the only way to win was to out-Capablanca Capablanca. He tightly controlled his aggressive and risky tendencies. He even agreed to easy draws because that was how Capablanca would play that position. It worked. Alekhin became the next World Chess Champion.
* The above Batman Begins ''Batman Begins'' example was deconstructed by stand-up comedian Reginald D. Hunter, pointing out that it was just a way to do what you want. Point in hand, he uses it as an excuse if someone takes offence to his Josef Fritzl routine.
9th Mar '16 9:37:54 AM Hossmeister
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* This is played for laughs in ''{{American Dad}}'', when Roger tasks himself with finding Haley and Jeff to [[spoiler:steal the money they conned from Haley's parents to elope with]]. When Klaus questions how Roger will find them, Roger replies, "to find a stoned loser, I must become a stoned loser". After taking a large hit off a water bong, he begins skateboarding off down the street. Suddenly the pot kicks in and he skates through a psychedelic acid sequence to MGM's "Electric Feels" before face-planting on a beach in Thailand, right in front of Haley and Jeff.

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* This is played for laughs in ''{{American Dad}}'', ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'', when Roger tasks himself with finding Haley and Jeff to [[spoiler:steal the money they conned from Haley's parents to elope with]]. When Klaus questions how Roger will find them, Roger replies, "to find a stoned loser, I must become a stoned loser". After taking a large hit off a water bong, he begins skateboarding off down the street. Suddenly the pot kicks in and he skates through a psychedelic acid sequence to MGM's "Electric Feels" before face-planting on a beach in Thailand, right in front of Haley and Jeff.
9th Mar '16 9:35:09 AM Hossmeister
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3rd Feb '16 8:15:56 PM SilentStranger
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--> '''Marge''': Why do you always hire the cheapest guy?!
--> '''Homer''': I go by how funny his sign is.
* Parodied in ''FamilyGuy'' when the Griffins house is infested with termites. Peter suggests that they adapt the termites customs, wear their clothing, and breed with their women, and "eventually, our differences will be forgotten".
** Another episode has Stewie afraid of the Tooth Fairy, and decides to capture him. He states that, "to find a fairy, he has to think like a fairy". Brian then gives an AsideGlance, and [[BreakingTheFourthWall a narrator gives the viewer the options of choosing between two incredibly obvious gay jokes, and having Brian do a Mexican hat dance]].
--> '''Lois''': JUST CALL THE DAMN EXTERMINATOR!!!
28th Jan '16 8:42:10 AM Piando
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* Played for laughs at the climax of the Alabasta arc in ''OnePiece''. While most of the main characters are hunting down a massive bomb set up by [[BigBad Crocodile]], Usopp's big idea is to start doing a comical impression of Crocodile in an attempt to figure out how he thinks. This earns him a DopeSlap.

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* Played for laughs at the climax of the Alabasta arc in ''OnePiece''.''Manga/OnePiece''. While most of the main characters are hunting down a massive bomb set up by [[BigBad Crocodile]], Usopp's big idea is to start doing a comical impression of Crocodile in an attempt to figure out how he thinks. This earns him a DopeSlap.

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* In ''[[JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]]''# 11, in order to navigate a holographic maze controlled by the mind of SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, the Martian Manhunter reconfigures his brain so he can think like him.

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* In ''[[JusticeLeagueOfAmerica ''[[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]]''# 11, in order to navigate a holographic maze controlled by the mind of SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, the Martian Manhunter reconfigures his brain so he can think like him.




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* ''ThePretender'', a series where the protagonist's thing is being able to think like other people, did an inversion in the episode "Once in a Blue Moon": Jarod has to catch a serial killer, and tries to ''without'' Becoming Him, because he's afraid that once he starts thinking like a homicidal psychopath he won't be able to stop.

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* ''ThePretender'', ''Series/ThePretender'', a series where the protagonist's thing is being able to think like other people, did an inversion in the episode "Once in a Blue Moon": Jarod has to catch a serial killer, and tries to ''without'' Becoming Him, because he's afraid that once he starts thinking like a homicidal psychopath he won't be able to stop.




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* There was an episode of the radio version of ''TheMightyBoosh'' where there was a villain stealing animals from the zoo. Howard wants to do a psychological profile, get inside the fiend's head and work out when he'll next strike... and Bob Fossil and Vince suggest flying around in a helicopter firing flares everywhere.

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* There was an episode of the radio version of ''TheMightyBoosh'' ''Series/TheMightyBoosh'' where there was a villain stealing animals from the zoo. Howard wants to do a psychological profile, get inside the fiend's head and work out when he'll next strike... and Bob Fossil and Vince suggest flying around in a helicopter firing flares everywhere.

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* In ''TheSuffering'', the toxic ghost of Executioner Hermes Haight reveals that during the months leading up to his death, he became obsessed with knowing what his victims felt before they died in the gas chamber: merely watching them yielded nothing, and listening to their phone conversations just made him feel like they knew something he didn't; even having sex with their corpses didn't satisfy his curiosity, so he concluded his obsession by [[DrivenToSuicide "tasting the gas"]].

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* In ''TheSuffering'', ''VideoGame/TheSuffering'', the toxic ghost of Executioner Hermes Haight reveals that during the months leading up to his death, he became obsessed with knowing what his victims felt before they died in the gas chamber: merely watching them yielded nothing, and listening to their phone conversations just made him feel like they knew something he didn't; even having sex with their corpses didn't satisfy his curiosity, so he concluded his obsession by [[DrivenToSuicide "tasting the gas"]].




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