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4th Sep '16 5:04:05 AM Morgenthaler
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* The Roman ''fasces'', a bundle of reeds, draws on the same symbolism (one reed breaks, a bundle doesn't). (The widely-known variant with the axe inside wasn't strictly required, and indeed the blade had to be removed in certain parts of Rome.) These ''fasces'' were carried by the Lictors, consular bodyguards. This had a peculiar impact later on: On one hand, the association of Rome with [[TheRomanRepublic republicanism]] and its embodiment of a republican principle (that the people together are stronger) led various modern Western republics (including France and the United States) to adopt the fasces as a symbol of republican (as opposed to monarchical) values; many of these symbols remain today (including the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_emblem_of_France French national emblem]], the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_the_United_States_Senate Seal of the US Senate]], and the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mace_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives Mace of the US House of Representatives]].[[note]]It also shows up subtly in the Lincoln Memorial: look at the arms on Uncle Abe's chair.[[/note]] On the other hand, it is also the origin of the word 'fascism', an ideology that puts a lot of emphasis on enforced unity.

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* The Roman ''fasces'', a bundle of reeds, draws on the same symbolism (one reed breaks, a bundle doesn't). (The widely-known variant with the axe inside wasn't strictly required, and indeed the blade had to be removed in certain parts of Rome.) These ''fasces'' were carried by the Lictors, consular bodyguards. This had a peculiar impact later on: On one hand, the association of Rome with [[TheRomanRepublic [[UsefulNotes/TheRomanRepublic republicanism]] and its embodiment of a republican principle (that the people together are stronger) led various modern Western republics (including France and the United States) to adopt the fasces as a symbol of republican (as opposed to monarchical) values; many of these symbols remain today (including the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_emblem_of_France French national emblem]], the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_the_United_States_Senate Seal of the US Senate]], and the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mace_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives Mace of the US House of Representatives]].[[note]]It also shows up subtly in the Lincoln Memorial: look at the arms on Uncle Abe's chair.[[/note]] On the other hand, it is also the origin of the word 'fascism', an ideology that puts a lot of emphasis on enforced unity.
6th Aug '16 4:01:57 AM eroock
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* ''Film/{{Together}}'' is set in a Stockholm commune where cooked porridge is served on a regular basis for economical reasons, much to the kids' dismay. Goeran tries to sugarcoat the meal to them by comparing the porridge to commune life:

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* ''Film/{{Together}}'' is set in a Stockholm commune where [[PovertyFood cooked porridge porridge]] is served on a regular basis for economical reasons, much to the kids' dismay. Goeran tries to sugarcoat the meal to them by comparing the porridge to commune life:
1st Jul '16 7:08:57 PM eroock
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This is, as said, an old story, and various versions exists. It is also one that is relatively often referenced in various media:

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This is, as said, an old story, and various versions exists. It is also one that is relatively often referenced in various media:media.

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1st Apr '16 6:08:21 PM FordPrefect
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* ''Film/{{Together}} is set in a Stockholm commune where cooked porridge is served on a regular basis for economical reasons, much to the kids' dismay. Goeran tries to sugarcoat the meal to them by comparing the porridge to commune life:

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* ''Film/{{Together}} ''Film/{{Together}}'' is set in a Stockholm commune where cooked porridge is served on a regular basis for economical reasons, much to the kids' dismay. Goeran tries to sugarcoat the meal to them by comparing the porridge to commune life:
4th Mar '16 1:17:23 PM eroock
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* ''Film/{{Together}} is set in a Stockholm commune where cooked porridge is served on a regular basis for economical reasons, much to the kids' dismay. Goeran tries to sugarcoat the meal to them by comparing the porridge to commune life:
--> '''Goeran''': You could say that we are like porridge. First we're like small oatflakes. Small, dry, fragile, alone... but then we're cooked with the other oatflakes and become soft. We join so that one flake can't be told apart from another. We're almost dissolved. Together we become a big porridge... that's warm, tasty and nutritious, and yes, quite beautiful, too.
27th Jan '16 6:28:18 PM dotchan
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* Try the metaphor for yourself. A group of sticks working together is indeed far harder to break than a single one of the same type.

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* Try the metaphor for yourself. A group of sticks working together is indeed far harder to break than a single one of the same type.type, not because of ThePowerOfFriendship, but that each stick only bears a mere fraction of the breaking force. (This is often demonstrated in science class by putting a board on top of a sufficiently large number of eggs as to hold the weight of a student standing on them--find enough eggs and they can hold up an entire ''car''.)
7th Jan '16 5:45:36 PM eroock
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->''Individually we are weak, like a single twig, but as a bundle we form [[HaveAGayOldTime a mighty faggot]].''

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->''Individually ->''"Individually we are weak, like a single twig, but as a bundle we form [[HaveAGayOldTime a mighty faggot]].''"''
26th Nov '15 5:38:55 PM nombretomado
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* The Motonari Mori example mentioned in Folk Lore above gets PlayedForLaughs in ''SamuraiWarriors 3'' when he tries it on the Tachibana, only to have Ginchiyo grab them and break them as well with little effort. Motonari continues to explain, but Muneshige tell him his wife is just being intentionally belligerent.

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* The Motonari Mori example mentioned in Folk Lore above gets PlayedForLaughs in ''SamuraiWarriors ''VideoGame/SamuraiWarriors 3'' when he tries it on the Tachibana, only to have Ginchiyo grab them and break them as well with little effort. Motonari continues to explain, but Muneshige tell him his wife is just being intentionally belligerent.
10th Jun '15 4:14:46 PM nombretomado
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* ''SouseiNoAquarion'' mentions the Japanese version by name.

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* ''SouseiNoAquarion'' ''Anime/GenesisOfAquarion'' mentions the Japanese version by name.
13th May '15 6:55:06 PM ShinyTsukkomi
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* ''WesternAnimation/ABugsLife'' uses a variation with pieces of grain. Hopper, the grasshopper villain, tosses a seed at a henchman, saying "Let's pretend this grain is a puny little ant." It bounces off the mook's chest, and he's fine, because grasshoppers are much bigger than ants. Next, Hopper triggers a slide of grain onto another henchman, crushing him, to demonstrate the power ants have in groups. Given that the film is a loose adaptation of Kurosawa's ''SevenSamurai'', this is probably a ShoutOut to ''Ran''.

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* ''WesternAnimation/ABugsLife'' uses a variation with pieces of grain. Hopper, the grasshopper villain, tosses a seed at a henchman, saying "Let's pretend this grain is a puny little ant." It bounces off the mook's chest, and he's fine, because grasshoppers are much bigger than ants. Next, Hopper triggers a slide of grain onto another henchman, crushing him, to demonstrate the power ants have in groups. Given that the film is a loose adaptation of Kurosawa's ''SevenSamurai'', ''Film/SevenSamurai'', this is probably a ShoutOut to ''Ran''.
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