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6th Feb '16 4:14:45 AM harostar
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* Itsuki Marude from ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'' is established as a loud-mouthed {{Jerkass}} primarily interested in making himself look good. Everything points towards him being this, [[SubvertedTrope until]] he's actually out in the field as Commander -- when his troops are pinned down by a sniper, he berates several for not doing anything. Then he snatches a rifle from one and [[BoomHeadShot takes the sniper out]] with a single shot. For the rest of the operation, he proves to be a skilled commander concerned about the well-being of his men. He's still an over-bearing, self-important asshole, though.
6th Feb '16 1:22:19 AM Yozzy
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* ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'': Dr. Kelso is this to the entirety of Sacred Heart Hospital in . However, it is a SubvertedTrope in that he takes it upon himself to be the one they can all hate in order to unite them on a common front. After he retires, he becomes a [[CoolOldGuy pretty nice guy.]]
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* ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'': Though a non-military example, Dr. Kelso is this to the entirety of Sacred Heart Hospital in . Hospital. This trope comes to the fore as a plot device in one episode when he becomes particularly inspired by ''this trope'' when a veteran lands in his hospital's care. The vet tells Kelso of his former sergeant's leadership, though ultimately the sergeant united the the troops underneath him through their hate towards him. Against the backdrop of this, the hospital's productivity was falling as the staff were becoming to enveloped by an ongoing, literal coffeehouse debate around the [[TheWarOnTerror war in Iraq]]. Kelso resolves the issue by suddenly announcing that he was canceling the staff discount for coffee, except for his own. When asked to explain why, his response was "Why the hell not?" and to walk away. However, it is a SubvertedTrope [[CharacterDevelopment ultimately subverts the trope]] in that he takes it upon himself to be the one they can all hate in order to unite them on a common front. After he retires, he becomes a [[CoolOldGuy pretty nice guy.]]
1st Feb '16 12:36:39 AM brianify
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Changed to the actual quote, as seen here: https://youtu.be/pX71mALOPKs?t=39s
->''"Get up, you faggots! Get up and fight!"''
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->''"Get up, you faggots! Get up and fight!"''charge!"''
30th Jan '16 4:33:08 PM GonzoLink
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* The TropeNamer is the blowhard ROTC commander Doug Neidermeyer from ''Film/AnimalHouse''. The WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue reveals that he ended up being [[UnfriendlyFire shot by his own troops]] in Vietnam. In the John Landis-directed segment of ''Film/TwilightZoneTheMovie'', we even meet the soldiers who shot him.
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* The TropeNamer is the blowhard ROTC commander Doug Douglas C. Neidermeyer from ''Film/AnimalHouse''. The WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue reveals that he ended up being [[UnfriendlyFire shot by his own troops]] in Vietnam. In the John Landis-directed segment of ''Film/TwilightZoneTheMovie'', we even meet the soldiers who shot him.
24th Jan '16 6:23:47 PM nombretomado
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* In the {{Elseworlds}} mini-series ''SupermanAndBatmanGenerations'' by Creator/JohnByrne, {{Superman}}'s powerless son Joel Kent becomes this sort of officer and is shot by his own men in Vietnam.
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* In the {{Elseworlds}} mini-series ''SupermanAndBatmanGenerations'' ''ComicBook/SupermanAndBatmanGenerations'' by Creator/JohnByrne, {{Superman}}'s powerless son Joel Kent becomes this sort of officer and is shot by his own men in Vietnam.
24th Jan '16 11:34:49 AM KingLyger
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Duplicate link in the quote and the picture.
[[quoteright:320:[[Film/AnimalHouse http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/neidermeyer.jpg]]]]
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[[quoteright:320:[[Film/AnimalHouse http://static.[[quoteright:320:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/neidermeyer.jpg]]]]jpg]]

A commanding officer with zero respect for his troops, and probably plenty for himself. Because of his demonstrated [[GeneralFailure incompetence]], [[MilesGloriosus cowardice]], [[ArmchairMilitary inexperience]], [[WeHaveReserves willingness to sacrifice them]] for [[GloryHound his own glory]] (but not himself) or [[KickedUpstairs to get promoted]], or just being a [[{{Jerkass}} psychotic level hard-ass]], his authority is resented by the men in the trenches, and his orders are only obeyed because chain-of-command says so.
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A commanding officer with zero respect for his troops, and probably plenty for himself. Because of his demonstrated [[GeneralFailure incompetence]], [[MilesGloriosus cowardice]], [[ArmchairMilitary inexperience]], [[WeHaveReserves willingness to sacrifice them]] his men]] for [[GloryHound his own glory]] (but not himself) or while keeping himself safely out of harm's way, a obsessive desire [[KickedUpstairs to get promoted]], or just being a [[{{Jerkass}} psychotic level hard-ass]], his authority is resented by the men in the trenches, and his orders are only obeyed because chain-of-command says so.
6th Jan '16 2:10:12 PM FF32
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* Lt. Cole Phelps of ''LANoire'' is such a Niedermeyer that it actually winds up driving most of the game's plot. Cole [[FreakOut being paralysed with fear at a convenient moment]] ensured that he was the last man standing after a night fighting the Japanese on Okinawa, which made him a war hero and he rose rapidly through the LAPD as a result. His Marines, infuriated at this, decided to steal massive crates of guns and drugs from the military because they thought they deserved to get rewarded as well. [[spoiler: Cole's order to burn out an enemy cave that turned out to be a field hospital gives one of his men massive PTSD and he is later revealed as the serial arsonist. This also so enrages the unit's medic that he actually shoots Cole in the back and goes on to lead the aforementioned heist]].
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* Lt. Cole Phelps of ''LANoire'' ''VideoGame/LANoire'' is such a Niedermeyer that it actually winds up driving most of the game's plot. Cole [[FreakOut being paralysed with fear at a convenient moment]] ensured that he was the last man standing after a night fighting the Japanese on Okinawa, which made him a war hero and he rose rapidly through the LAPD as a result. His Marines, infuriated at this, decided to steal massive crates of guns and drugs from the military because they thought they deserved to get rewarded as well. [[spoiler: Cole's order to burn out an enemy cave that turned out to be a field hospital gives one of his men massive PTSD and he is later revealed as the serial arsonist. This also so enrages the unit's medic that he actually shoots Cole in the back and goes on to lead the aforementioned heist]].
3rd Jan '16 4:09:58 PM Dravencour
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The military equivalent of the SadisticTeacher.
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The military equivalent of the SadisticTeacher. SadistTeacher.
28th Dec '15 10:12:34 AM YT45
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** Bill Mauldin's ComicStrip/WillieAndJoe called him on his uniform obsession multiple times, eventually leading to Patton threatening to shut down ''Stars and Stripes'' altogether to stop troops from reading the strip. Eisenhower himself stepped in and shut Patton down over this, and ordered Patton to leave Mauldin strictly alone. Eisenhower understood that the Willie and Joe comics (which depicted a pair of low-ranking infantry soldiers on the front lines) were very good for morale and that Mauldin himself was highly regarded by the enlisted men.
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** Sergeant Bill Mauldin's ComicStrip/WillieAndJoe called him on his uniform obsession multiple times, eventually leading to Patton threatening to shut down ''Stars and Stripes'' altogether to stop troops from reading the strip. Eisenhower himself stepped in and shut Patton down over this, and ordered Patton to leave Mauldin strictly alone. Eisenhower understood that the Willie and Joe comics (which depicted a pair of low-ranking infantry soldiers on the front lines) were very good for morale and that Mauldin himself was highly regarded by the enlisted men.

* Leslie Gehres, captain of ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Franklin_%28CV-13%29 USS Franklin]]'', was a good example of a Captain Queeg. His crew regarded him poorly due to his disciplinarian attitude and open contempt for his crew. When ''Franklin'' suffered a pair of devastating bomb hits on March 19, 1945, Gehres had refused to change the ship's readiness level from Condition-3 despite being only 50 miles from the Japanese coast. Antiaircraft guns were unmanned, damage control personnel were eating breakfast, fire pumps were turned off, and fully-loaded aircraft on the hangar deck were ignited by the bombs in a catastrophic explosion. Gehres spent six hours doing nothing of any use while his ship burned and explosive ordnance cooked off inside. Instead, [[BadassPreacher Chaplain Joseph O'Callahan]] led the firefighting and rescue effort that saved the ship, pulling many wounded men away from the fires by himself, pausing only to issue the Last Rites to the many dead and dying. Gehres later tried to deflect blame by accusing many of the surviving crew of desertion for abandoning the ship in the face of the enemy (a capital offense punishable by death) in spite of the fact that they were forced (or blown) overboard by the explosions and fire. The Navy quickly dropped the charges and swept the accusation under the rug. Gehres received a medal but was never trusted to command a ship again. Chaplain O'Callahan received the Medal of Honor.
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* Leslie Gehres, captain of ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Franklin_%28CV-13%29 USS Franklin]]'', was a good example of a Captain Queeg. His crew regarded him poorly due to his disciplinarian attitude and open contempt for his crew. When ''Franklin'' suffered a pair of devastating bomb hits on March 19, 1945, Gehres had refused to change the ship's readiness level from Condition-3 despite being only 50 miles from the Japanese coast. Antiaircraft guns were unmanned, damage control personnel were eating breakfast, fire pumps were turned off, and fully-loaded aircraft on the hangar deck were ignited by the bombs in a catastrophic explosion. Gehres spent six hours doing nothing of any use while his ship burned and explosive ordnance cooked off inside. Instead, [[BadassPreacher Chaplain Joseph O'Callahan]] led the firefighting and rescue effort that saved the ship, pulling many wounded men away from the fires by himself, pausing only to issue the Last Rites to the many dead and dying. Gehres later tried to deflect blame by accusing many of the surviving crew of desertion for abandoning the ship in the face of the enemy for abandoning the ship (a capital offense punishable by death) in spite of the fact that they were forced (or blown) overboard by the explosions and fire. The Navy quickly dropped the charges and swept the accusation under the rug. Gehres received a medal but was never trusted to command a ship again. Chaplain O'Callahan received the Medal of Honor.
28th Dec '15 10:09:42 AM YT45
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** One well-known story from the war is that when the D-Day invasion began, Panzer groups sat idly by while the Allies invaded. The reason? Because they needed Adolf's ordered permission to get into the battle. He did not give it until late in the day, because ''he was asleep''. And ''nobody'' wanted to be the one to wake him up and tell him the bad news.
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** One well-known story from the war is that when the D-Day Normandy invasion began, Panzer groups sat idly by while the Allies invaded. The reason? Because they needed Adolf's ordered permission to get into the battle. He did not give it until late in the day, because ''he was asleep''. And ''nobody'' wanted to be the one to wake him up and tell him the bad news.

* Second Lieutenant William Calley, commanding officer of the platoon that perpetrated the [[UsefulNotes/VietnamWar My Lai massacre]], was regarded as incompetent and there had been discussions already within the platoon of fragging him.
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* Second Lieutenant William Calley, commanding officer of the platoon that perpetrated the [[UsefulNotes/VietnamWar My Lai massacre]], was regarded as incompetent and there had been discussions already within the platoon of fragging him. It's occasionally been noted that Calley was a product of Robert S. [=MacNamara's=] "Project 100,000," which sought to expand the US Army's numbers cheaply by lowering standards across the board. Had it not been for that failed initiative, most agree that Calley wouldn't have even been allowed in the Army, much less put in charge of anything.

* Leslie Gehres, captain of the ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Franklin_%28CV-13%29 USS Franklin]]'', was a good example of a Captain Queeg. His crew regarded him poorly due to his disciplinarian attitude and open contempt for his crew. When ''Franklin'' suffered a devastating attack on March 19, 1945, Gehres accused many of the surviving crew of desertion for abandoning the ship in spite of the fact that most of them were forced overboard by the explosions and fire.
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* Leslie Gehres, captain of the ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Franklin_%28CV-13%29 USS Franklin]]'', was a good example of a Captain Queeg. His crew regarded him poorly due to his disciplinarian attitude and open contempt for his crew. When ''Franklin'' suffered a pair of devastating attack bomb hits on March 19, 1945, Gehres accused had refused to change the ship's readiness level from Condition-3 despite being only 50 miles from the Japanese coast. Antiaircraft guns were unmanned, damage control personnel were eating breakfast, fire pumps were turned off, and fully-loaded aircraft on the hangar deck were ignited by the bombs in a catastrophic explosion. Gehres spent six hours doing nothing of any use while his ship burned and explosive ordnance cooked off inside. Instead, [[BadassPreacher Chaplain Joseph O'Callahan]] led the firefighting and rescue effort that saved the ship, pulling many wounded men away from the fires by himself, pausing only to issue the Last Rites to the many dead and dying. Gehres later tried to deflect blame by accusing many of the surviving crew of desertion for abandoning the ship in the face of the enemy (a capital offense punishable by death) in spite of the fact that most of them they were forced (or blown) overboard by the explosions and fire.fire. The Navy quickly dropped the charges and swept the accusation under the rug. Gehres received a medal but was never trusted to command a ship again. Chaplain O'Callahan received the Medal of Honor.
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