History Main / TheNeidermeyer

14th Jun '18 9:27:09 PM Shadeblade11
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*** Not exactly. Custer, like almost all Civil War officers of the United States Army had two ranks during the war - permanent Captain in the Regular Army and Major General in the United States Volunteers. When the Volunteers were mustered out he was reverted to his permanent rank and then double-promoted to Lieutenant Colonel - skipping the rank of Major. There is no "what everyone always forgets" involved. He did not expect to "regain his rank" because that wasn't his rank to regain. He was actually at a higher rank than expected specifically because he had been such an effective and well-liked leader in the Civil War. He was a glory hound, but not for that reason.
14th Jun '18 3:56:27 PM WillKeaton
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* Captain Fisher, a.k.a. "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Liar Billy Liar]]", in Creator/KimNewman's AlternateHistory novella ''Literature/TeddyBearsPicnic''. His own troops frag him with a white phosphorus grenade, a practice known as "white saucing". For the record, white phosphorous burns at [[http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m15.htm 5000 degrees]] and sticks to the skin.

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* Captain Fisher, a.k.a. "[[http://en.[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Liar Billy Liar]]", "Billy Liar,"]] in Creator/KimNewman's AlternateHistory novella ''Literature/TeddyBearsPicnic''. His own troops frag him with a white phosphorus grenade, a practice known as "white saucing". For the record, white phosphorous burns at [[http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m15.htm 5000 degrees]] and sticks to the skin.
26th May '18 3:31:25 AM jormis29
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* Colonel Pitts in ''Film/TheEagleHasLanded''. Piqued at being ordered back to the US (he is considered too inexperienced to participate in D-Day) he launches an attack on the church where the German Fallschirmjager (paratroops) are holed up without doing a proper recon, completely missing the germans hidden at various points in the village and wiping out his entire platoon; to top it all he gets killed by Joanna Grey while trying to kill her with a grenade; since they were played by Larry Hagman and Jean Marsh respectively this spawned a thousand t-shirts saying "Rose (from ''Upstairs Downstairs'') Shot J.R! (from ''Dallas'')"

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* Colonel Pitts in ''Film/TheEagleHasLanded''. Piqued at being ordered back to the US (he is considered too inexperienced to participate in D-Day) he launches an attack on the church where the German Fallschirmjager (paratroops) are holed up without doing a proper recon, completely missing the germans hidden at various points in the village and wiping out his entire platoon; to top it all he gets killed by Joanna Grey while trying to kill her with a grenade; since they were played by Larry Hagman Creator/LarryHagman and Jean Marsh respectively this spawned a thousand t-shirts saying "Rose (from ''Upstairs Downstairs'') ''Series/UpstairsDownstairs'') Shot J.R! (from ''Dallas'')"''Series/{{Dallas}}'')"
17th May '18 1:04:30 PM theLibrarian
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** Colonel Crittendon. The Heroes' plans to murder him weren't entirely sarcastic.

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** Colonel Crittendon.Crittendon, a bumbling and incompetent British officer whose ludicrous plans and go-getter attitude often cause the Heroes to have to try and sabotage his schemes so that he doesn't get them all killed.. The Heroes' plans to murder him weren't entirely sarcastic.
17th May '18 1:01:41 PM theLibrarian
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** Major Frank Burns - especially notably because he's an officer and not enlisted.

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** Major Frank Burns - is probably the most visible example. An incompetent doctor, a stickler for draconian discipline, loud, obnoxious, entitled, bullying, and often blaming everyone but himself for his own idiocy, Burns is disliked by every single person in the 4077th MASH unit, except for his lover Margaret Houlihan, who's also one of these (as elaborated on below). This is especially notably because he's an officer and not enlisted.
28th Mar '18 10:26:22 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Subverted by Literature/CiaphasCain, naturally, who is GenreSavvy and certainly aware of this trope. He treats his men well and while he does genuinely care about them, he finds comfort in the fact that not being like every other Commissar in the guard greatly reduces his chance of being the victim of friendly fire. He actually comments on how a great many Commissars die "heroic deaths" suspiciously far from the front lines. He spent his later years attempting to teach commissar cadets to subvert this trope, with admittedly mixed success (most who are chosen for the Commissariat are simply not the right personality type to be taught how to lead through respect rather than fear). Cain certainly wants to avoid such a fate; "I want to die in a bed, preferably someone else's."

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** Subverted by Literature/CiaphasCain, naturally, who is GenreSavvy and certainly aware of this trope. He treats his men well and while he does genuinely care about them, he finds comfort in the fact that not being like every other Commissar in the guard greatly reduces his chance of being the victim of friendly fire. He actually comments on how a great many Commissars die "heroic deaths" suspiciously far from the front lines. He spent his later years attempting to teach commissar cadets to subvert this trope, with admittedly mixed success (most who are chosen for the Commissariat are simply not the right personality type to be taught how to lead through respect rather than fear). Cain certainly wants to avoid such a fate; "I want to die in a bed, preferably someone else's."
21st Mar '18 9:07:25 PM nombretomado
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* ''Series/TheOffice'':

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* ''Series/TheOffice'':''Series/{{The Office|US}}'':
21st Feb '18 5:49:58 PM nombretomado
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** Zim is shown to be this type of leader in the episode Hobo-13 in that he needlessly sacrifices his squadmates so that he himself can get to the end of the obstacle course, including using his last remaining soldier as a battering ram to open a door. The Drill Sergeant (ironically played by RLeeErmey) who meets him at the end chooses to fail Zim due to his horrendous leadership skills and challenges him into combat in order to pass (which Zim does by cheating).

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** Zim is shown to be this type of leader in the episode Hobo-13 in that he needlessly sacrifices his squadmates so that he himself can get to the end of the obstacle course, including using his last remaining soldier as a battering ram to open a door. The Drill Sergeant (ironically played by RLeeErmey) Creator/RLeeErmey) who meets him at the end chooses to fail Zim due to his horrendous leadership skills and challenges him into combat in order to pass (which Zim does by cheating).
15th Feb '18 12:12:59 PM bfunc
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* In ''Radio/TheNavyLark'' Captain Povey frequently falls into this category with his obsession for hounding the Troutbridge crew out of the Navy. To be fair, the crew of the Troutbridge are completely incompetent/derelict in their duties

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* In ''Radio/TheNavyLark'' Captain Povey frequently falls into this category with his obsession for hounding the Troutbridge crew out of the Navy. To be fair, the crew of the Troutbridge are completely incompetent/derelict in their dutiesduties.
23rd Dec '17 5:59:39 PM nombretomado
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** Note that this had changed by UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, largely as a result of the reforms that came in the wake of the embarrassing stalemate that was [[UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan the Russo-Japanese war of 1904-5]]. In 1913, 40% of the Officer Academies' graduates were landless gentry (i.e. families with titles, but little or no money), and another 40% were of the lower-middle class and peasantry. Only 20% of graduates were from land-owning and/or middle-middle-to-upper-class families. This was a drastically lower proportion than in Germany, wherein the Army's officer corps was overwhelmingly aristocratic. Unlike in contemporary Germany, the Imperial Russian army was actually a means for 'upward' social mobility. The RoyalNavy officers, who served as liaison officers, were appalled by the Russian Imperial Navy's brutal discipline and the incompetence of the officers. The Russian Imperial Navy used corporal punishments, which had been abandoned already in the Napoleonic times in the Royal Navy. The disaster in the Russo-Japanese war forced the Russians to reform.

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** Note that this had changed by UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, largely as a result of the reforms that came in the wake of the embarrassing stalemate that was [[UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan the Russo-Japanese war of 1904-5]]. In 1913, 40% of the Officer Academies' graduates were landless gentry (i.e. families with titles, but little or no money), and another 40% were of the lower-middle class and peasantry. Only 20% of graduates were from land-owning and/or middle-middle-to-upper-class families. This was a drastically lower proportion than in Germany, wherein the Army's officer corps was overwhelmingly aristocratic. Unlike in contemporary Germany, the Imperial Russian army was actually a means for 'upward' social mobility. The RoyalNavy [[UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships Royal Navy]] officers, who served as liaison officers, were appalled by the Russian Imperial Navy's brutal discipline and the incompetence of the officers. The Russian Imperial Navy used corporal punishments, which had been abandoned already in the Napoleonic times in the Royal Navy. The disaster in the Russo-Japanese war forced the Russians to reform.
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