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9th Jan '16 9:41:54 AM MarcInGA
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* In "The Desperate Hours" (1955) a family is taken hostage. They have two or three perfect escapes foiled by the same kid. In one they get outside, find the kid missing and see he's still in the house at gunpoint. IIRC (it's been a long time) this kid also mouthed off to the bandits with something like "Oh, yeah? Well, when my father gets to his gun which is in the drawer right there ..."
23rd Aug '15 8:25:09 PM nombretomado
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* Ishmael, in ''MobyDick''. The only thing that really distinguishes him as a character is that he's the only member of the ''Pequod'''s crew not to die.
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* Ishmael, in ''MobyDick''.''Literature/MobyDick''. The only thing that really distinguishes him as a character is that he's the only member of the ''Pequod'''s crew not to die.
1st May '15 6:25:26 PM nombretomado
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** Not to mention in many later spin offs where Velma and Fred were absent, leaving Shaggy and Scooby to use BugsBunny style antics to take down the MonsterOfTheWeek (who were often ''real'' this time).
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** Not to mention in many later spin offs where Velma and Fred were absent, leaving Shaggy and Scooby to use BugsBunny WesternAnimation/BugsBunny style antics to take down the MonsterOfTheWeek (who were often ''real'' this time).
9th Apr '15 1:19:04 PM AquamarineGavial
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* [[Discworld/GuardsGuards Guards! Guards!]] has the Watch figure out who the Supreme Grand Master is, but it is implied that [[TheChessmaster Vetinari]] was already aware of what was going on, and the Watch are ultimately useless in getting rid of the Dragon - [[spoiler: Errol ends up defeating it by creating a sonic boom, which was part of his mating dance to the female dragon]].
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* [[Discworld/GuardsGuards Guards! Guards!]] has the Watch figure out who the Supreme Grand Master is, but it is implied that [[TheChessmaster Vetinari]] was already aware of what was going on, and the Watch are ultimately useless in getting rid of the Dragon - [[spoiler: Errol ends up defeating it by creating a sonic boom, which was part of his mating dance to the female dragon]]. Their investigation for the first half of the story is already invalidated: firstly, by the audience knowing about the Brotherhood's antics; and second, by the Brotherhood getting killed shortly before the Watch learn that they were behind it.
11th Dec '14 7:33:04 AM woodwardiocom
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* True, to an extent, for ''RaidersOfTheLostArk.'' If Indy hadn't been there to battle the Nazis, would the ending have been much different? [[spoiler: Maybe a little. The flying wing was going to take the ark to Berlin, so if Indy hadn't interfered, it might have been opened in front of the top Nazi brass, thus killing Hitler and ending the war early.]]
10th Sep '14 5:11:55 AM DAN004
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Suddenly it dawns on you. The main characters aren't that useful! They did all the cool stuff (basically, get into all the danger), yet someone else ultimately stopped the bad guy and saved the day. [[WhatTheHellHero What the heck?]] Why even bother with these "heroes" and their adventures?
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Suddenly it dawns on you. The main characters aren't that useful! They did all the cool stuff (basically, get into all the danger), yet [[NonProtagonistResolver someone else ultimately stopped the bad guy and saved the day. [[WhatTheHellHero day.]] What the heck?]] heck? Why even bother with these "heroes" and their adventures?
16th Jul '14 9:37:17 PM randomsurfer
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** In "The Time of the Doctor" the Doctor explains his default plan: talk a lot, hope something good happens, take the credit.
18th May '14 9:16:13 PM Ramidel
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However, the main character, Conan, is indeed the one who solves the mysteries.
[[AC:{{Anime}} & {{Manga}}]] * In ''Manga/DetectiveConan'', the three supporting cast of children, [[BrattyHalfPint The Detective Boys]], excluding [[OlderThanTheyLook Conan and Haibara]] are rather annoying and irritating know-it-alls who represent this trope perfectly. They always need to get saved by someone.
9th May '14 8:36:21 AM LondonKdS
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* Invoked and justified in a few episodes of ''Series/DoctorWho''. Certain events, especially those based on RealLife history, require the Doctor and his companions to be this trope while otherwise solving the problems connected to what the show calls "fixed points in time" (the event must take place within a rigid set of circumstances defining the end result or reality will collapse). A good example is the Tenth Doctor episode "The Fires of Pompeii", where the Doctor and his companion discover alien beings called the Pyroviles are using Mount Vesuvius to stay alive, and to prevent the danger they pose humanity, Vesuvius must erupt as history dictates, leaving the protagonists unable to stop the historical event. They are, however, allowed to save at least one family of people from the event, since history doesn't record anything that would contradict their survival.
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* Invoked and justified in a few episodes of ''Series/DoctorWho''. ''Series/DoctorWho''. ** Certain events, especially those based on RealLife history, require the Doctor and his companions to be this trope while otherwise solving the problems connected to what the show calls "fixed points in time" (the event must take place within a rigid set of circumstances defining the end result or reality will collapse). A good example is the Tenth Doctor episode "The Fires of Pompeii", where the Doctor and his companion discover alien beings called the Pyroviles are using Mount Vesuvius to stay alive, and to prevent the danger they pose humanity, Vesuvius must erupt as history dictates, leaving the protagonists unable to stop the historical event. They are, however, allowed to save at least one family of people from the event, since history doesn't record anything that would contradict their survival. ** This also happened in "Warriors' Gate" (where it was intended to be AnAesop about "doing nothing" sometimes being wiser than pointless action), and in certain stories during Eric Saward's tenure as script editor (where it was probably because of Saward's belief that the Doctor just wasn't as cool as his own {{Badass}} military characters).
31st Mar '14 12:07:36 AM jeez
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* In ''Film/{{Goldfinger}}'', the role of James Bond in the plot is actually rather limited. He spends most of his time tailing Goldfinger and hanging out in his base as a prisoner, always ''trying'' to get intel outside, but failing. [[spoiler:Sure, he does manage to kill both Goldfinger and Oddjob, but that doesn't affect the plot very much, and the bulk of the work ends up being done by the US Army and the CIA. They even disarm the nuke for Bond. The only vital thing Bond does manage to do is, ironically enough, screwing Pussy Galore (who then performs a HeelFaceTurn and sabotages Goldfinger's 'grand slam')]].
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