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30th May '18 2:55:04 AM jormis29
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* In ''The Desperate Hours'' (1955) a family is taken hostage. They have two or three perfect escapes foiled by the same kid. In one they get outside, find the kid missing and see he's still in the house at gunpoint. This kid also mouthed off to the bandits with something like "Oh, yeah? Well, when my father gets to his gun which is in the drawer right there ..."

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* In ''The Desperate Hours'' (1955) ''Film/TheDesperateHours'') a family is taken hostage. They have two or three perfect escapes foiled by the same kid. In one they get outside, find the kid missing and see he's still in the house at gunpoint. This kid also mouthed off to the bandits with something like "Oh, yeah? Well, when my father gets to his gun which is in the drawer right there ..."
7th May '18 6:02:14 AM GrigorII
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* In the SelfInsert Manga/{{Naruto}} fanfiction ''Fanfic/SugarPlums'' for a long period of time, the main character and her companions can actually do very little to improve their situation or the situation of Kirigakure. This is actually noted several times in character as a major frustration for the main character because of the lack of [[RealityEnsues control and influence she has in the situation as the lowest rank of shinobi]]. It's also noted she lacks information because the events in Kirigakure are not very well documented at all in the Naruto universe and most of the underlying problems were started decades ago and have been perpetuated since then. This changes however once they catch up the the beginning of the series (the first eighty chapters or so take place starting five years before the start of the main series).


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* In the SelfInsert Manga/{{Naruto}} fanfiction ''Fanfic/SugarPlums'' for a long period of time, the main character and her companions can actually do very little to improve their situation or the situation of Kirigakure. This is actually noted several times in character as a major frustration for the main character because of the lack of [[RealityEnsues control and influence she has in the situation as the lowest rank of shinobi]]. It's also noted she lacks information because the events in Kirigakure are not very well documented at all in the Naruto universe and most of the underlying problems were started decades ago and have been perpetuated since then. This changes however once they catch up the the beginning of the series (the first eighty chapters or so take place starting five years before the start of the main series).
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7th May '18 6:01:50 AM GrigorII
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* ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan: The Rhino is having a rampage in the city. Peter tries to leave the school to go there and stop him, but several things conspire to keep him there: May shows up, Gwen is crying in the dumpster, Flash attacks him, etc. By the time he finally gets to the crime scene, Rhino has been defeated by [[ComicBook/TheUltimates Iron Man]].
16th Feb '18 2:22:46 AM shadowmanwkp
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* In ''The Desperate Hours'' (1955) a family is taken hostage. They have two or three perfect escapes foiled by the same kid. In one they get outside, find the kid missing and see he's still in the house at gunpoint. IIRC (it's been a long time) this kid also mouthed off to the bandits with something like "Oh, yeah? Well, when my father gets to his gun which is in the drawer right there ..."

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* In ''The Desperate Hours'' (1955) a family is taken hostage. They have two or three perfect escapes foiled by the same kid. In one they get outside, find the kid missing and see he's still in the house at gunpoint. IIRC (it's been a long time) this This kid also mouthed off to the bandits with something like "Oh, yeah? Well, when my father gets to his gun which is in the drawer right there ..."
4th Jan '18 6:48:15 AM GoblinCipher
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* ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDoo'''s Scooby Gang, the [[TropeNamer meddling kids]] themselves, are an odd case, as they actually ''do'' manage to solve mysteries... or rather, Velma does, with a little help from Freddy and occasionally Daphne. Our main heroes, Scooby and Shaggy, on the other hand, mostly just have exciting {{chase scene}}s and [[BigEater eat lots]], while Daphne is kidnapped by the villain ("[[DamselInDistress Danger-prone Daphne]]", indeed) and Freddy makes traps that invariably fail but somehow manage to [[AccidentalHero accidentally capture the villain anyway]]. In the end, it's Velma who figures out who the villain is and explains the mystery to the others. To be fair to Scooby and Shaggy, their chase scenes sometimes involve them being chased by the villain right into Fred's trap, inadvertently capturing the bad guy. Shaggy himself is the TropeNamer for the ShaggySearchTechnique, and is often the one who finds the clues to the cases.
** This is averted hilariously in the movies, in which the cast also realize their shortcomings -- Daphne takes down a good number of bad guys after [[IKnowKarate taking martial arts classes]] and Shaggy and Scooby spend the entire second movie performing investigations on their own to prove their worth (of course, the success of said investigations is pretty limited...)
** The third live-action film averts this. Every member of the gang provides something useful, but not at the same degree as the earlier two films (which is correct, as this film is a prequel). Freddy comes up with the plan, Daphne provides the wheels and disguises, Velma provides science and history, Shaggy drives and provides a list of suspects (and the motive), and Scooby actually catches the villain.
** The third episode of the original series is a perfect example of this trope. The police would have caught the criminal even if Mystery Inc. had not ended up in the castle.
** In "A Clue for Scooby Doo", "Bedlam at the Big Top", and "Never Ape an Ape Man", Scooby and Shaggy do have a major role in solving the case.
*** For "A Clue for Scooby-Doo", Scooby-Doo finds the air tanks for the gang while Shaggy sits on the rock that opens up the villian's hideout.
*** For "Bedlam At The Big Top", Shaggy and Scooby-Doo put the Ghost Clown into a trance in which the Ghost Clown thinks he's a chimp.
*** For "Never Ape An Ape Man", Shaggy takes a picture of the Ape Man without his mask on. [[spoiler: Talk about carrying the IdiotBall, Carl The Stunt Man.]]
** Not to mention in many later spin-offs where Velma and Fred are absent, leaving Shaggy and Scooby to use WesternAnimation/BugsBunny style antics to take down the MonsterOfTheWeek (who are often ''real'' this time). Shaggy is quite often shown to be considerably smarter than he looks. He and Scooby are perfectly capable of solving a mystery on their own, if they have no choice but to focus on it. He is also the first one to recognize the unmasked Capt. Cutler.

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* ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDoo'''s Scooby Gang, the [[TropeNamer meddling kids]] themselves, are an odd case, as they actually ''do'' manage to solve mysteries... or rather, Velma does, with a little help from Freddy and occasionally Daphne. Our main heroes, case. The mysteries are usually solved by Velma, using clues that Scooby and Shaggy, on the other hand, mostly just have exciting {{chase scene}}s and [[BigEater eat lots]], while Daphne is kidnapped by the villain ("[[DamselInDistress Danger-prone Daphne]]", indeed) and Freddy makes traps that invariably fail but somehow manage to [[AccidentalHero accidentally capture the villain anyway]]. In the end, it's Velma who figures out who the villain is and explains the mystery to the others. To be fair to Scooby and Shaggy, their chase scenes sometimes involve them being chased by the villain right into Fred's trap, inadvertently capturing the bad guy. Shaggy himself discover completely by accident (Shaggy is the TropeNamer for ShaggySearchTechnique). Freddie is useless until the ShaggySearchTechnique, final act, when he builds a trap for the villain that never does what it's supposed to but results in the villain's capture anyway. Daphne contributes nothing. As famous as this formula is, it was frequently averted even in the first season and is often the one who finds the clues to the cases.
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** This is averted hilariously in the live-action movies, in which the cast also realize their shortcomings -- Daphne takes down a good number of bad guys after [[IKnowKarate taking martial arts classes]] and Shaggy and Scooby spend the entire second movie performing investigations on their own to prove their worth (of course, the success of said investigations is pretty limited...)
** The third live-action film averts this. Every member of the gang provides something useful, but not at the same degree as the earlier two films (which is correct, as this film is a prequel). Freddy comes up with the plan, Daphne provides the wheels and disguises, Velma provides science and history, Shaggy drives and provides a list of suspects (and the motive), and Scooby actually catches the villain.
** The third episode of the original series is a perfect example of this trope. The police would have caught the criminal even if Mystery Inc. had not ended up in the castle.
** In "A Clue for Scooby Doo", "Bedlam at the Big Top", and "Never Ape an Ape Man", Scooby and Shaggy do have a major role in solving the case.
*** For "A Clue for Scooby-Doo", Scooby-Doo finds the air tanks for the gang while Shaggy sits on the rock that opens up the villian's hideout.
*** For "Bedlam At The Big Top", Shaggy and Scooby-Doo put the Ghost Clown into a trance in which the Ghost Clown thinks he's a chimp.
*** For "Never Ape An Ape Man", Shaggy takes a picture of the Ape Man without his mask on. [[spoiler: Talk about carrying the IdiotBall, Carl The Stunt Man.]]
** Not to mention in many later spin-offs where Velma and Fred are absent, leaving Shaggy and Scooby to use WesternAnimation/BugsBunny style antics to take down the MonsterOfTheWeek (who are often ''real'' this time). Shaggy is quite often shown to be considerably smarter than he looks. He and Scooby are perfectly capable of solving a mystery on their own, if they have no choice but to focus on it. He is also the first one to recognize the unmasked Capt. Cutler.
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27th Dec '17 11:47:14 AM Psi001
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See also LittleHeroBigWar, which is kind of this on a much larger scale, and with the hero having a larger chance of being the one who actually defeats the villain. Often if the main character pads a lot of the story failing to succeed it's because WereTeamCannonFodder.

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See also LittleHeroBigWar, which is kind of this on a much larger scale, and with the hero having a larger chance of being the one who actually defeats the villain. Often if the main character pads a lot of the story failing to succeed it's because WereTeamCannonFodder.
WeAreTeamCannonFodder.
27th Dec '17 11:46:53 AM Psi001
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See also LittleHeroBigWar, which is kind of this on a much larger scale, and with the hero having a larger chance of being the one who actually defeats the villain.

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See also LittleHeroBigWar, which is kind of this on a much larger scale, and with the hero having a larger chance of being the one who actually defeats the villain.
villain. Often if the main character pads a lot of the story failing to succeed it's because WereTeamCannonFodder.
27th Dec '17 11:45:26 AM Psi001
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* Rufus and Amberley of ''WesternAnimation/TheDreamstone'' are usually ineffective against even [[HarmlessVillain the Urpneys]], though usually come out fine anyway due to the assistance of the Wuts, [[NiceJobFixingItVillain the Urpneys screwing up the plan]] or [[TheFool just pure dumb luck]]. There are several episodes they prove competent however, especially the pilot.

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* Rufus and Amberley of ''WesternAnimation/TheDreamstone'' are were usually ineffective against even [[HarmlessVillain the Urpneys]], though usually come out fine anyway due to the assistance of [[InvincibleHero the Wuts, Wuts]], [[NiceJobFixingItVillain the Urpneys screwing up the plan]] or [[TheFool just pure dumb luck]]. There are several episodes they prove competent [[TookALevelInBadass They became much more effective at it]] during later parts of the series however, especially the pilot.sometimes disassembling their plans single handed.
16th Jul '17 9:45:34 PM azul120
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* In the [[SelfInsert self insert]] {{Manga/Naruto}} fanfiction ''Fanfic/SugarPlums'' for a long period of time, the main character and her companions can actually do very little to improve their situation or the situation of Kirigakure. This is actually noted several times in character as a major frustration for the main character because of the lack of [[RealityEnsues control and influence she has in the situation as the lowest rank of shinobi]]. It's also noted she lacks information because the events in Kirigakure are not very well documented at all in the Naruto universe and most of the underlying problems were started decades ago and have been perpetuated since then. This changes however once they catch up the the beginning of the series (the first eighty chapters or so take place starting five years before the start of the main series).

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* In the [[SelfInsert self insert]] {{Manga/Naruto}} SelfInsert Manga/{{Naruto}} fanfiction ''Fanfic/SugarPlums'' for a long period of time, the main character and her companions can actually do very little to improve their situation or the situation of Kirigakure. This is actually noted several times in character as a major frustration for the main character because of the lack of [[RealityEnsues control and influence she has in the situation as the lowest rank of shinobi]]. It's also noted she lacks information because the events in Kirigakure are not very well documented at all in the Naruto universe and most of the underlying problems were started decades ago and have been perpetuated since then. This changes however once they catch up the the beginning of the series (the first eighty chapters or so take place starting five years before the start of the main series).


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14th Jul '17 8:27:09 AM BloodPlum
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* In the [[SelfInsert self insert]] {{Manga/Naruto}} fanfiction ''Fanfic/SugarPlums'' for a long period of time, the main character and her companions can actually do very little to improve their situation or the situation of Kirigakure. This is actually noted several times in character as a major frustration for the main character because of the lack of [[RealityEnsues control and influence she has in the situation as the lowest rank of shinobi]]. It's also noted she lacks information because the events in Kirigakure are not very well documented at all in the Naruto universe and most of the underlying problems were started decades ago and have been perpetuated since then. This changes however once they catch up the the beginning of the series (the first eighty chapters or so take place starting five years before the start of the main series).
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