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10th Jan '17 6:13:30 PM tkzv
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* In ''Literature/EmpireFromTheAshes'' Dahak wants Earth-born Battle Fleet personnel to follow naming rules of Imperium when they marry, creating names like "Tamman-Amcolgiv" and "Amandacollettegivens-Tam".


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* In the 4th episode of ''WebVideo/TheWebsiteIsDown'' Nancy Johnson married a man with the same name and changed her name to Johnson-Johnson. Derek kept ignoring her requests to change her name in the system. A week later she forces him to do his job, and he [[CapsLockNumLockMissilesLock accidentally]] resets all user passwords and has to spend a week setting them manually.
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28th Dec '16 4:43:58 AM Phred
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See also MeaningfulRename. Compare NomDeMom, where the woman ''did'' change her name, and her offspring changed it ''back''.

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See also MeaningfulRename. Compare NomDeMom, where the woman ''did'' change her name, and her offspring changed it ''back''.
''back''. Also see the MrsHypothetical, who's gone through this debate well in advance.
25th Dec '16 3:06:47 PM GlitteringFlowers
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** In the original ''VisualNovel/TriangleHeart3SweetSongsForever'' continuity, Nanoha's father was originally a member of the Fuwa clan, but he changed his name to Takamachi when he married Momoko (presumably to throw his enemies off his track). It's ambiguous if this is the case in the ''Nanoha'' continuity.

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** In the original ''VisualNovel/TriangleHeart3SweetSongsForever'' continuity, Nanoha's father Shirou was originally a member of the Fuwa clan, but he changed his name to Takamachi when he married Momoko (presumably to throw his enemies off his track). It's ambiguous if this is the case in the ''Nanoha'' continuity.



* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': Isshin [[spoiler:Shiba]] became Isshin Kurosaki after marrying Masaki Kurosaki, [[spoiler: since he used to be a Shinigami captain but chose to stay on Earth to help Masaki after she was attacked ''and'' they fell in love with each other]]. Their three children and his clinic all bear the Kurosaki name, since in addition to Isshin's matters Masaki [[spoiler: was the last member of her bloodline]]. Flashbacks reveal that Isshin set up his clinic just after meeting Masaki but before their relationship officially began and five years before they married. He named it the Kurosaki Clinic from the very beginning, however.
** [[spoiler: Rukia also kept her maiden name (well... adopted name) when she married Renji, though their daughter did take his name when she was born.]]

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* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'':
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Isshin [[spoiler:Shiba]] became Isshin Kurosaki after marrying Masaki Kurosaki, [[spoiler: since he used to be a Shinigami captain but chose to stay on Earth to help Masaki after she was attacked ''and'' they fell in love with each other]]. Their three children and his clinic all bear the Kurosaki name, since in addition to Isshin's matters Masaki [[spoiler: was the last member of her bloodline]]. Flashbacks reveal that Isshin set up his clinic just after meeting Masaki but before their relationship officially began and five years before they married. He named it the Kurosaki Clinic from the very beginning, however.
however, probably [[HappilyMarried out of love for Masaki]].
** [[spoiler: Rukia Kuchiki also kept her maiden name (well... adopted name) when she married Renji, Renji Abarai, though their daughter Ichika did take his name when she was born.born (probably because, were Ichika named after the Kuchikis, this could potentially mean th accidental creation of a brench of the clan and would bring up a HUGE mess).]]


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* In ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'', Anthy's older brother Akio Himemiya took up the Ohtori surname after he and Kanae Ohtori became engaged.
3rd Dec '16 1:16:21 PM Nazetrime
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* ''WebComic/StandStillStaySilent'': Various ways to deal with it has been seen across families:
** The Västerström name has been mostly male-transmitted and taken by woman married into the family, but Mia had to keep it for it to make it to the current generation.
** Saku Hotakainen took his wife's name.
** Averted with Ensi Hotakainen. The author confirmed that her twin sons were concieved on a one-night stand, with a guy whose last name is not even recorded on the family tree that was given to the readers.
** Tuuli Hollola was technically married into the Hotakainen family, but her keeping her last name and transmitting it to her son is the reason Taru is not a Hotakainen.
13th Nov '16 9:42:01 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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Not a completely {{Universal Trope|s}}, as many cultures do not expect a woman to change her name (like Korea, Vietnam, China, Quebec, Islamic countries, and Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries), and some do not use surnames at all (like Iceland, Indonesia, and the Tamil people of India and Sri Lanka). In the former Soviet Union, the choice to change one's name is part of the (civil and very bureaucratic) ceremony, and the man changing his name is not unheard-of, though less common than the woman changing her name or there being no name change at all. In Japan, husband and wife are required by law to be listed on the same family register, and thus to have the same surname. While it's almost always the woman who changes her registration and surname, it's legally equivalent for the man to do so and is considered a decent compromise if the woman is from a particularly high-status family (especially if they have a large FamilyBusiness) and/or is the last of her name.

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Not a completely {{Universal Trope|s}}, as many cultures do not expect a woman to change her name (like Korea, Vietnam, China, Quebec, Islamic countries, and Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries), and some do not use surnames at all (like Iceland, Indonesia, and the Tamil people of India South and Sri Lanka).Southeast Asia). In the former Soviet Union, the choice to change one's name is part of the (civil and very bureaucratic) ceremony, and the man changing his name is not unheard-of, though less common than the woman changing her name or there being no name change at all. In Japan, husband and wife are required by law to be listed on the same family register, and thus to have the same surname. While it's almost always the woman who changes her registration and surname, it's legally equivalent for the man to do so and is considered a decent compromise if the woman is from a particularly high-status family (especially if they have a large FamilyBusiness) and/or is the last of her name.
13th Nov '16 9:40:54 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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Not a completely {{Universal Trope|s}}, as many cultures do not expect a woman to change her name (Korea, Vietnam, China, Quebec, Muslim countries, Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries), and some do not use surnames at all (Iceland, Indonesia). In the former Soviet Union, the choice to change one's name is part of the (civil and very bureaucratic) ceremony, and the man changing his name is not unheard-of, though less common than the woman changing her name or there being no name change at all. In Japan, husband and wife are required by law to be listed on the same family register, and thus to have the same surname. While it's almost always the woman who changes her registration and surname, it's legally equivalent for the man to do so and is considered a decent compromise if the woman is from a particularly high-status family (especially if they have a large FamilyBusiness) and/or is the last of her name.

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Not a completely {{Universal Trope|s}}, as many cultures do not expect a woman to change her name (Korea, (like Korea, Vietnam, China, Quebec, Muslim Islamic countries, and Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries), and some do not use surnames at all (Iceland, Indonesia).(like Iceland, Indonesia, and the Tamil people of India and Sri Lanka). In the former Soviet Union, the choice to change one's name is part of the (civil and very bureaucratic) ceremony, and the man changing his name is not unheard-of, though less common than the woman changing her name or there being no name change at all. In Japan, husband and wife are required by law to be listed on the same family register, and thus to have the same surname. While it's almost always the woman who changes her registration and surname, it's legally equivalent for the man to do so and is considered a decent compromise if the woman is from a particularly high-status family (especially if they have a large FamilyBusiness) and/or is the last of her name.
13th Nov '16 12:21:53 PM Gamermaster
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** In the original ''VisualNovel/TriangleHeart3SweetSongsForever'' continuity, Nanoha's father was originally a member of the Fuwa clan, but he changed his name to Takamachi when he married Momoko (presumably to throw his enemies off his track). It's ambiguous if this is the case in the ''Nanoha'' continuity.



** [[spoiler: Rukia also kept her maiden name when she married Renji, though their daughter did take his name when she was born.]]

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** [[spoiler: Rukia also kept her maiden name (well... adopted name) when she married Renji, though their daughter did take his name when she was born.]]
13th Nov '16 12:12:03 PM Gamermaster
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** [[spoiler: Rukia also kept her maiden name when she married Renji, though their daughter did take his name when she was born.]]



** When Nozomu married Rino he took on her last name, but you wouldn't know this unless you read ''My Girlfriend Without Wasabi'' or you were really paying attention during the episode that adapted it.

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** When Nozomu married Rino he took on her last name, but you wouldn't know this unless you read ''My Girlfriend Without Wasabi'' or you were really ''really'' paying attention during the episode that adapted it.
30th Oct '16 8:10:24 PM JoeMerl
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* In ''WesternAnimation/MiloMurphysLaw,'' [[BornUnlucky Milo]]'s middle name is "[[MetaphorIsMyMiddleName Danger]]," though [[ItsPronouncedTropay pronounced "Dawn-zhay"]]. Apparently it was his grandmother's maiden name. (His parents, meanwhile, are both "Murphy.")
30th Oct '16 8:03:41 PM JoeMerl
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* It's more of a fandom reaction than anything in-show, but the fact that ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'''s Lin Bei Fong inherited her mother's surname has driven some fans nuts. Most characters in the [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender universe]] only have [[OnlyOneName one name]], so it's not surprising that Toph passed on her surname, being from a very wealthy and prominent family in the Earth Kingdom. However, fans are absolutely pissed that it's not clear who Lin's father is, wondering if Toph even got married at all!
** In the third season we meet Lin's half-sister, Suyin Beifong, who kept the name after she married (it's unclear if her husband or children use it). She indicates that neither she nor Lin knew their fathers, possibly indicating that Toph never married.

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* It's more In ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra,''' a SequelSeries to ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender,'' both of a fandom reaction than anything in-show, but [[LittleMissBadass Toph Bei Fong]]'s daughters, [[DaChief Lin]] and [[ReformedCriminal Suyin]], use her last name. On the fact that ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'''s Lin Bei Fong inherited her mother's surname has driven some fans nuts. Most one hand, this makes sense, since it's a setting where most other characters in the [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender universe]] only have [[OnlyOneName one name]], so it's not surprising that Toph passed on her surname, being from a very wealthy and prominent family in the Earth Kingdom. However, OnlyOneName, but many fans are absolutely pissed that it's not clear were annoyed since it helped obscure the issue of who Lin's father is, wondering if Toph even got married at all!
** In the third season we meet Lin's half-sister, Suyin Beifong, who kept the name after she married (it's unclear if her husband or children use it). She indicates that neither she nor Lin knew
their fathers, possibly indicating fathers were. It's eventually implied that Toph never married.married, and at least in Lin's case we know her father was nobody fans are familiar with.
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