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24th Apr '16 11:27:17 AM OldBlindTrope
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Averting this trope may be one reason to enforce FantasyGunControl, even though medieval firearms were in many ways ''less'' effective weapons than contemporary bows.

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Averting this trope may be one reason to enforce FantasyGunControl, even though medieval firearms hand-held guns were in many ways ''less'' significantly less effective weapons than contemporary bows.
bows in the Middle Ages and the Age of Discovery.
11th Mar '16 1:58:51 PM StFan
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->''Guns don't kill people. People kill people.''
-->--'''Billy Lee Black''', VideoGame/{{Xenogears}}, in defence of his WeaponOfChoice.

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->''Guns ->''"Guns don't kill people. People kill people.''
-->--'''Billy
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-->-- '''Billy
Lee Black''', VideoGame/{{Xenogears}}, in Black''' (in defence of his WeaponOfChoice.
WeaponOfChoice), ''VideoGame/{{Xenogears}}''






!!Examples

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* One episode of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' shows Ash and Pikachu frightened of a robber who brandishes a pistol. Pikachu can summon lightning, TeamRocket is always [[ATwinkleInTheSky blasting off]] after some Pokemon-related explosion hits, but bullets from a gun are apparently worse. (Luckily they had walked onto a movie set and it was a prop gun.)
** Subverted in another episode - Ash is berated by his friends for sending Pikachu after a man with a gun, then another Pokemon takes him out.

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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'':
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One episode of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' shows Ash and Pikachu frightened of a robber who brandishes a pistol. Pikachu can summon lightning, TeamRocket is always [[ATwinkleInTheSky blasting off]] after some Pokemon-related Pokémon-related explosion hits, but bullets from a gun are apparently worse. (Luckily they had have walked onto a movie set and it was is a prop gun.)
** Subverted in another episode - -- Ash is berated by his friends for sending Pikachu after a man with a gun, then another Pokemon Pokémon takes him out.

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* Often averted in ThePhantom. In the finale of the second story arc of the serial strip, TheBaroness shoots him in the chest at point blanc with what looks like a heavy-caliber pistol, and he doesn't raise an eyebrow. (Although this ''is'' treated as an extreme case; in context, it convinces the villainess he [[OurGhostsAreDifferent really is the Ghost Who Walks]], and when he sees a doctor about it later the man considers it a medical miracle he's alive, nevermind up and running.)

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* Going along with the [[{{Pokemon}} main series]]' premise (see the example above), firearms are by far the best sort of individual weaponry available during the PokeWars. Almost nothing faced so far couldn't be killed by well-applied small arms fire.

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* The characters in ''{{Bionicle}}'' never have realistic guns, but they do carry explosives, rocket launchers, lasers, swords, chainsaws and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking squid launchers.]]
** Possibly justified in that the characters are bio-mechanical constructs for which small arms are more likely to be largely ineffective.

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* Often averted in ThePhantom.''ComicStrip/ThePhantom''. In the finale of the second story arc of the serial strip, TheBaroness shoots him in the chest at point blanc with what looks like a heavy-caliber pistol, and he doesn't raise an eyebrow. (Although this ''is'' treated as an extreme case; in context, it convinces the villainess he [[OurGhostsAreDifferent really is the Ghost Who Walks]], and when he sees a doctor about it later the man considers it a medical miracle he's alive, nevermind up and running.)

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* Going along with the [[{{Pokemon}} main series]]' ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' series' premise (see the example above), firearms are by far the best sort of individual weaponry available during the PokeWars. ''Fanfic/PokeWars''. Almost nothing faced so far couldn't be killed by well-applied small arms fire.

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* The characters in ''{{Bionicle}}'' ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' never have realistic guns, but they do carry explosives, rocket launchers, lasers, swords, chainsaws and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking squid launchers.]]
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]] Possibly justified in that the characters are bio-mechanical constructs for which small arms are more likely to be largely ineffective.

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* Takaya's magnum revolver in ''{{Persona 3}}''. despite the protagonists being shocked, stabbed, burned, frozen, and pierced, one shot from his gun [[spoiler: kills both Shinjiro and Junpei, only one of whom get better, though the former can be saved by a PocketProtector in [[UpdatedRerelease Persona 3 Portable]] if his Social Link is maxed out]]. Granted, it ''is'' a [[HandCannon high powered magnum]], but still.
** GameplayAndStorySegregation is at play here, too. When you fight him, his magnum doesn't do remarkable numbers.

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* Mocked in ''Webcomic/TheAdventuresOfDrMcNinja'' in an AprilFoolsDay one-shot where his family of ninja (and gunslinging sidekick) are murdered by their only weakness: "Bullets...from a gun."

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* Takaya's magnum revolver in ''{{Persona ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}''. despite the protagonists being shocked, stabbed, burned, frozen, and pierced, one shot from his gun [[spoiler: kills both Shinjiro and Junpei, only one of whom get better, though the former can be saved by a PocketProtector in [[UpdatedRerelease Persona 3 Portable]] if his Social Link is maxed out]]. Granted, it ''is'' a [[HandCannon high powered magnum]], but still.
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still. GameplayAndStorySegregation is at play here, too. When you fight him, his magnum doesn't do remarkable numbers.

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* Mocked in ''Webcomic/TheAdventuresOfDrMcNinja'' in an AprilFoolsDay one-shot where his family of ninja (and gunslinging sidekick) are murdered by their only weakness: "Bullets... from a gun.""
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29th Jan '16 5:01:30 PM nombretomado
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* In ''{{Super Smash Brothers}} Brawl'', Snake uses explosives instead of his guns for weaponry. In his original canon of ''Franchise/MetalGear'', he had a perfectly serviceable [[StunGuns tranquilizer gun]]. The [[WordOfGod stated]] reason he only uses explosives is because they're [[RuleOfCool cooler]] and [[RuleOfFunny funnier]] than just shooting people.

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* In ''{{Super Smash Brothers}} Brawl'', ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'', Snake uses explosives instead of his guns for weaponry. In his original canon of ''Franchise/MetalGear'', he had a perfectly serviceable [[StunGuns tranquilizer gun]]. The [[WordOfGod stated]] reason he only uses explosives is because they're [[RuleOfCool cooler]] and [[RuleOfFunny funnier]] than just shooting people.
7th Mar '15 12:16:27 AM readeradv
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** Possibly justified in that the characters are bio-mechanical constructs for which small arms are more likely to be largely ineffective.
12th Aug '14 11:34:01 PM Trogdor
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Knives, swords, arrows, etc., can hit square-on but [[OnlyAFleshWound leave flesh wounds that cause little more trouble than paper cuts]]. Blunt weapons may just bruise, if that, even when they hit. Lasers are often FamilyFriendlyFirearms that just stun, or leave burns with little more effect than a burn from a hot stove. Bombs sometimes leave just a soot layer on their targets; more realistic works will still let a character OutrunTheFireball. If a building falls on top of a character, he may crawl out of the rubble with nothing more than a layer of gray dust -- yes, even in works that are superficially realistic. Tornadoes will just fling a character aside even if he [[DoNotTouchTheFunnelCloud does touch the funnel cloud]], and ConvectionSchmonvection gives enough protection from fire that almost anyone can escape it. Poisonous gas has antidotes, and the worst effects can be escaped if you hold your breath as soon as you know it's there. Even the radiation from a nuclear bomb, the other scariest weapon a character is likely to run into, sometimes causes [[ILoveNuclearPower beneficial mutations]]; even when it doesn't, it often leaves few side effects between the radiation poisoning and death.

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Knives, swords, arrows, etc., and NoodleImplements can hit square-on but [[OnlyAFleshWound leave flesh wounds that cause little more trouble than paper cuts]]. Blunt weapons may just bruise, if that, even when they hit. Lasers are often FamilyFriendlyFirearms that just stun, or leave burns with little more effect than a burn from a hot stove. Bombs sometimes leave just a soot layer on their targets; more realistic works will still let a character OutrunTheFireball. If a building falls on top of a character, he may crawl out of the rubble with nothing more than a layer of gray dust -- yes, even in works that are superficially realistic. Tornadoes will just fling a character aside even if he [[DoNotTouchTheFunnelCloud does touch the funnel cloud]], and ConvectionSchmonvection gives enough protection from fire that almost anyone can escape it. Poisonous gas has antidotes, and the worst effects can be escaped if you hold your breath as soon as you know it's there. Even the radiation from a nuclear bomb, the other scariest weapon a character is likely to run into, sometimes causes [[ILoveNuclearPower beneficial mutations]]; even when it doesn't, it often leaves few side effects between the radiation poisoning and death.
30th Jun '14 10:13:35 PM Aiguille
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* Taken to an almost humorous extreme in {{Wanted}}, where Wesley's skill with firearms is treated as an unstoppable trump card. At one point, as the BigBad urges his minions to "do something" about the oncoming AntiHero, Wesley muses to himself "like what? stop a bullet with their faces?" It seems to not occur to the writer that, in fact, many super villains are more than capable of exactly that.

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* Taken to an almost humorous extreme in {{Wanted}}, ''ComicBook/{{Wanted}}'', where Wesley's skill with firearms is treated as an unstoppable trump card. At one point, as the BigBad urges his minions to "do something" about the oncoming AntiHero, Wesley muses to himself "like what? stop a bullet with their faces?" It seems to not occur to the writer that, in fact, many super villains are more than capable of exactly that.
26th Feb '14 6:36:23 PM johnnye
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[[AC:{{Film}}]]
* This is why ''[=William Shakespeare's Romeo + Juliet=]'' (with {{Leonardo DiCaprio}}) uses Sword brand guns. Characters are able to escape ''the explosion of a gas station'' (caused by gunfire), but ''no one'' is able to live through the direct hit of a gun.
* Guns are almost always instantly lethal in FilmNoir.
26th Feb '14 6:34:31 PM johnnye
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This trope happens for several reasons. For one thing, guns are extremely common in America, and not infrequently used here/there; even in RealLife, they can be dangerous. For another, it's easier for children to find and inadvertently hurt someone with an unattended gun than most other types of weapon. This trope takes the RealLife danger of guns and pushes it UpToEleven. Whether this effort to make guns [[ScareEmStraight scarier]] does what the MoralGuardians think it does is dubious, but hey...

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This trope happens for several reasons. For one thing, guns are extremely common in America, and not infrequently used here/there; even in RealLife, they can be dangerous. For another, should a child ever find an unattended gun, it's easier for children them to find and inadvertently hurt someone with an unattended gun it than most other types of weapon. This trope takes the RealLife danger of guns and pushes it UpToEleven. Whether this effort to make guns [[ScareEmStraight scarier]] does what the MoralGuardians think it does is dubious, but hey...
26th Feb '14 6:29:34 PM johnnye
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Averting this trope may be one reason to enforce FantasyGunControl, even though medieval firearms were in many ways ''less'' effective weapons than contemporary bows.
8th Feb '14 7:50:45 PM SnakeEyes
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** GameplayAndStorySegregation is at play here, too. When you fight him, his magnum doesn't do remarkable numbers.
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