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15th Aug '17 7:59:24 AM Daylight
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* In Book 4 of ''LegendOfKorra'', BigBad, Kuvira, started her road to world conquest after her mentor and leader Suyin refused to help stop the violent crime and all around chaos that was happening in the Earth Kingdom after the Queen was assassinated, despite having more than enough resources to do so. Given that the Avatar was nowhere to be found, which lasted 3 years, she felt the need to step up and restore order. Furthermore, she was right about the future Earth King not being fit for the job of leadership, which he would admit after she was defeated and gave up the throne.
1st Jul '17 6:53:25 AM Ilya_Rysenkov
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'': It's often pointed out that without the Imperium ruling mankind with an iron PowerFist, humanity would quickly be enslaved, exterminated, or [[FateWorseThanDeath even worse]]. A quick glance at the [[AliensAreBastards other]] [[BloodKnight races]] [[TheFairFolk and]] [[OmnicidalManiac factions]] [[BugWar of]] [[ScaryDogmaticAliens the]] [[ReligionOfEvil setting]] is all it takes to confirm this view. It is a nightmarish CrapsackWorld where EverythingIsTryingToKillYou. The only thing you can do is [[AbsoluteXenophobe kill it all back first]].

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'': It's often pointed out that without the Imperium ruling mankind with an iron PowerFist, PowerFist and wiping out every thing that looks at it funny, humanity would quickly be enslaved, exterminated, or [[FateWorseThanDeath even worse]]. A quick glance at the [[AliensAreBastards other]] [[BloodKnight races]] [[TheFairFolk and]] [[OmnicidalManiac factions]] [[BugWar of]] [[ScaryDogmaticAliens the]] [[ReligionOfEvil [[LegionsOfHell setting]] is all it takes to confirm this view. It is a nightmarish CrapsackWorld where EverythingIsTryingToKillYou. The only thing you can do is [[AbsoluteXenophobe kill it all back first]].
15th Jun '17 11:39:33 AM DarkHunter
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* A running theme in ''Literature/{{Dune}}'': sometimes good men have to do truly terrible things in the service of the greater good. That these men have [[OmniscientMoralityLicense extremely accurate future sight helps]], of course. Best exemplified by Leto II's "Golden Path", which involves turning himself into a quasi-immortal GodEmperor, subjugating the entire human race for thousands of years knowing that they will chafe under his rule as a tyrant, and keeping an iron grip on a monopoly of Spice upon which all society depends... all in the name of planting the seeds for the Scattering, in which humanity spreads out across the galaxy so completely that it's nigh-impossible for them to ever be killed off completely.
14th Jun '17 12:09:26 AM Divra
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** There is also the question of the Norsefire regime. The book is quite clear that while the Norsefire regime is a totalitarian and high-handed PoliceState, and that countless atrocities have been committed by it, that same high-handed leadership is the only reason Britain survived the Third World War as well as it did. The film, again, does away with this angle entirely.
14th May '17 5:20:37 PM nombretomado
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* ''Exalted'', being based on GreyAndGrayMorality, has quite a few examples of this.

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* ''Exalted'', ''{{TabletopGame/Exalted}}'', being based on GreyAndGrayMorality, has quite a few examples of this.
14th May '17 5:20:28 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Traveller}}'': Cleon Zhunastu was a MagnificentBastard who built the Third Imperium by a series of schemes worthy of the greatest of villains. And the Third Imperium became a Benevolent (sort of) [[TheFederation Federation]] that brought about order and stability.

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* ''{{Traveller}}'': ''TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}'': Cleon Zhunastu was a MagnificentBastard who built the Third Imperium by a series of schemes worthy of the greatest of villains. And the Third Imperium became a Benevolent (sort of) [[TheFederation Federation]] that brought about order and stability.
12th May '17 2:53:24 AM Couran
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** Loghain Mac Tir betrayed his king, left a thousand soldiers to die, and declared martial law because he was paranoid that said king was going to sell out Ferelden to an empire of [[AristocratsAreEvil French Aristocrats]] in Orlais for the title of Emperor. Turns out he was SPOT ON about his paranoia. Everything else was one big screwup.
10th May '17 1:20:55 PM Grudgeal
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* In ''Manga/{{Ooku}}'', Tokugawa Ienari ends up driving the shogunate into debt and alienating many supporters and councillors in order to finally exterminate the Redface Pox with a nationwide, mandatory vaccination programme. Ienari ends up proclaiming death penalties to the parents of anyone who tries to dodge the vaccinations and suppresses, even violently, anyone who dissents. The end result: One generation later the Redface Pox is completely eradicated. Ienari even orders all records on the matter altered so that foreign nations will never learn just how badly off Japan was even half a century earlier.
8th May '17 10:29:31 AM USABobcat
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** Loghain Mac Tir betrayed his king, left a thousand Grey Wardens to die, and declared martial law because he was paranoid that said king was going to sell out Ferelden to an empire of [[AristocratsAreEvil French Aristocrats]] in Orlais for the title of Emperor. Turns out he was SPOT ON about his paranoia. Everything else was one big screwup.

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** Loghain Mac Tir betrayed his king, left a thousand Grey Wardens soldiers to die, and declared martial law because he was paranoid that said king was going to sell out Ferelden to an empire of [[AristocratsAreEvil French Aristocrats]] in Orlais for the title of Emperor. Turns out he was SPOT ON about his paranoia. Everything else was one big screwup.
4th May '17 8:57:30 AM Chabal2
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** Inquisitor Kryptmann has been declared a traitor to the Imperium due to his deliberately using Exterminatus on several densely-populated Imperial worlds. Not because he'd fallen to Chaos or gone insane: knowing a Tyranid Hive Fleet was on its way, he proceeded to lure them by getting genestealers onnto a SpaceHulk so they would call the fleet towards them. Every time the fleet was about to overrun a world, he Exterminatus-ed, denying the Tyranids the biomass they needed to reform their troops. He kept this up until the Hive Fleet was in an ork-controlled sector, another species that thrives on combat (in this case, they release spores on dying that mature into orks). The orks and Tyranids are now in a ForeverWar, replenishing their troops daily, with the inevitable conclusion that the winner will have so many forces under their commmand they'll be nigh-unstoppable. But while they're busy with each other, the Imperium can concentrate on its (many, many) other foes. Incidentally, the reason Kryptmann is a wanted man isn't so much the massive loss of human life but the loss of irreplaceable worlds.
** The Necrons are intent on destroying every living thing in the galaxy... because it's the only way to be rid of Chaos for good (daemons are formed from emotion, and their gods are the sums of all rage, hope, desire and love felt by sentient beings).
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