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15th Sep '16 6:23:09 AM infernape612
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* In ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'', during the Despair arc, Nagito Komaeda threatens to shoot BigBad Junko Enoshima in cold blood. Chiaki Nanami tries to argue that murder is never right, but given the fact that Enoshima would go on to [[ApocalypseHow cause the end of human civilization as we know it]] [[ForTheEvulz simply to cause as much despair as possible]], everyone really, really would have been better off if the gun didn't jam.
14th Sep '16 8:24:47 PM PaulA
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** At the end of ''[[Literature/OrsonScottCardsEmpire Hidden Empire]]'', this seems to be the conclusion.

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** * At the end of ''[[Literature/OrsonScottCardsEmpire Hidden Empire]]'', ''Literature/HiddenEmpire'', this seems to be the conclusion.
8th Sep '16 2:59:28 PM MarkLungo
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* Played with, sort of, in ''BirthOfANation'': complete racial egalitarianism is deemed ‘extremism’ in the film. In the film, this attitude leads to [[spoiler:a violent uprising on the blacks’ part, led by a mulatto]]; the creator vehemently denied being racist, so he probably didn’t actually see that view as extremist, so... Well, enjoy the MindScrew.

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* Played with, sort of, in ''BirthOfANation'': ''Film/TheBirthOfANation1915'': complete racial egalitarianism is deemed ‘extremism’ in the film. In the film, this attitude leads to [[spoiler:a violent uprising on the blacks’ part, led by a mulatto]]; the creator director Creator/DWGriffith vehemently denied being racist, so he probably didn’t actually see that view as extremist, so... Well, enjoy the MindScrew.



** The genocide of whites in Haiti after the slave rebellion there loomed large in the minds of Southern whites.

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** The genocide of whites in Haiti UsefulNotes/{{Haiti}} after the slave rebellion there loomed large in the minds of Southern whites.
7th Sep '16 4:28:19 PM xneon
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** ...''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', which picks up several months later. Shepard is now disharged from the Alliance and going to trial for his/her actions, which gets interrupted when the Reapers finally descend upon Earth. Unfortunately, by the time we get to see the Council, the invasion is well underway, so we miss their initial shocked/horrified reactions to the fact that Shepard was right all along. [[spoiler: Amusingly, it's the resident air-quoting Turian Councillor Sparatus who ends up being [[TookALevelInKindness the first of the Councilors to offer Shepard aid]] in the form of vital intel]].

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** ...''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', which picks up several months later. Shepard is now disharged discharged from the Alliance and going to trial for his/her actions, which gets interrupted when the Reapers finally descend upon Earth. Unfortunately, by the time we get to see the Council, the invasion is well underway, so we miss their initial shocked/horrified reactions to the fact that Shepard was right all along. [[spoiler: Amusingly, it's the resident air-quoting Turian Councillor Sparatus who ends up being [[TookALevelInKindness the first of the Councilors to offer Shepard aid]] in the form of vital intel]].
6th Sep '16 11:52:55 AM Ilya_Rysenkov
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* In ''Videogame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', while a big deal is made of Superman making himself the dictator of the world, he's evidently managed to severely weaken Ares, God of War from the peace he's created.

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* In ''Videogame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', while a big deal is made of Superman making himself the dictator of the world, he's evidently managed to severely weaken Ares, God of War from the peace he's created. He's also stopped all crime, all wars and was going to solve environmental problems with Lex Luthhor. Even Batman at one one point muses that the world has become ''much'' safer than before.



* Kiith Gaalsien in ''VideoGame/HomeworldDesertsOfKharak'' is determined to prevent the Northern Coalition from salvaging the technology from all the ships that have ended up in the Kharakian desert [[spoiler:thanks to the Second Hyperspace Core in the Khar-Toba ruins]], as their religious texts prophesy the end of the world. Everyone else views them as religious nuts who impede progress. Unfortunately, they're right, as those twisted religious texts are the only hint at the hyperspace ban imposed by the Taiidan Empire after they defeated the Hiigarans (the ancestors of the Kharakians). We already know [[VideoGame/{{Homeworld}} what happens to Kharak, after the first hyperspace test]].

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* Kiith Gaalsien in ''VideoGame/HomeworldDesertsOfKharak'' is determined to prevent the Northern Coalition from salvaging the technology from all the ships that have ended up in the Kharakian desert [[spoiler:thanks to the Second Hyperspace Core in the Khar-Toba ruins]], as their religious texts prophesy the end of the world. Everyone else views them as religious nuts who impede progress. Unfortunately, they're right, as those twisted religious texts are the only hint at the hyperspace ban imposed by the Taiidan Empire after they defeated the Hiigarans (the ancestors of the Kharakians). We already know [[VideoGame/{{Homeworld}} that is exactly what happens to Kharak, after the first hyperspace test]].
5th Sep '16 2:36:18 AM TitaniumDragon
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** The genocide of whites in Haiti after the slave rebellion there loomed large in the minds of Southern whites.
30th Aug '16 12:47:13 PM Morgenthaler
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* The Brotherhood from ''MutantChronicles'' takes pretty much everything about the Catholic Church throughout history, ''good and bad'', and cranks it UpToEleven. But then again, when you live in a world where battles with the Legions of Hell aren't even headline material anymore, the "bad" comes across more like "harsh but necessary".
* In {{Eberron}}, the gnomish country of Zilargo dispenses with any kind of due process in favor of letting its extensive network of secret police, the Trust, constantly spy on citizens and foreigners alike and intimidate anyone even ''considering'' a crime out of the idea with whispers from the shadows. And if that doesn't work? The would-be criminal generally "disappears" before they can actually commit a crime. The result? A happy, fearless populace and the lowest crime rate in all of Khorvaire.

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* The Brotherhood from ''MutantChronicles'' ''TabletopGame/MutantChronicles'' takes pretty much everything about the Catholic Church throughout history, ''good and bad'', and cranks it UpToEleven. But then again, when you live in a world where battles with the Legions of Hell aren't even headline material anymore, the "bad" comes across more like "harsh but necessary".
* In {{Eberron}}, TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}, the gnomish country of Zilargo dispenses with any kind of due process in favor of letting its extensive network of secret police, the Trust, constantly spy on citizens and foreigners alike and intimidate anyone even ''considering'' a crime out of the idea with whispers from the shadows. And if that doesn't work? The would-be criminal generally "disappears" before they can actually commit a crime. The result? A happy, fearless populace and the lowest crime rate in all of Khorvaire.
10th Aug '16 8:03:06 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* The titular {{Franchise/Halo}} rings were built by [[{{Precursors}} the Forerunners]] to scour the entire galaxy of life in hopes of starving a virulent parasite. Yet their head of the military, the Didact, refused to activate them and tried to turn to other solutions such as super-intelligent AIs, [[AIIsACrapshoot which turned against him]], or experimental cures, [[ProfessorGuineaPig which mutated him]]. His final plan was to [[spoiler:convert all humans in the galaxy into robotic soldiers that serve him. His own wife has to imprison him to stop this from happening.]] Of course, as we see, [[spoiler:the Halo solution does eventually let the parasite escape and attack the galaxy again.]]
** The Spartan supersoldiers were kidnapped children who were indoctrinated for years and trained under TheSpartanWay to become humanity's most elite warriors. Why? Because TheWarOfEarthlyAggression was increasing to the point that it predicted to end with a new Dark Age. Then came [[ScaryDogmaticAliens the Covenant]], and Spartans were the only consistent game-changers. Finally the war was won and only because of Spartans, with the rest of humanity to pick up the pieces and debate with the arrested scientists over whether their experiments were justified.
** The Didact's WorthyOpponent Forthencho, the Lord of Admirals of the [[AdvancedAncientHumans Human]]-San 'Shyuum [[TheAlliance alliance]], could also be seen as this trope. He did not want to start a war with the Forerunners but had to do so to keep the Flood contained. He knew attempting to explain the truth to the Forerunners would take too long and allow the contamination to spread to more and more worlds. His only option was to [[DeathFromAbove cleanse those worlds completely]] and hope he could beat the Forerunners. Naturally, he was ultimately proven right, but it was too late for the ancient humans... or the Forerunners for that matter.

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* {{Franchise/Halo}}
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The titular {{Franchise/Halo}} rings were built by the [[{{Precursors}} the Forerunners]] Forerunner]] Builders to scour the entire galaxy of life in hopes of starving a virulent parasite. parasite known as the Flood. Yet their the head of the Forerunner military, the Didact, refused to activate them and tried to turn to other solutions such as super-intelligent AIs, [[AIIsACrapshoot which turned against him]], or experimental cures, [[ProfessorGuineaPig which mutated him]]. His final plan was to [[spoiler:convert all humans in the galaxy into robotic soldiers that serve him.him, which was doomed to fail right from the start. His own wife has to imprison him to stop this from happening.]] Of course, as we see, [[spoiler:the Halo solution does eventually let In the parasite escape end, the remaining Forerunners realize that the Halos are indeed the ''only'' way to stop the Flood, and attack the galaxy again.]]
proceed to fire them. It works.
** The Spartan Spartan-II supersoldiers were kidnapped children who were indoctrinated for years and trained under TheSpartanWay to become humanity's most elite warriors. Why? Because TheWarOfEarthlyAggression was increasing to the point that it predicted to end with a new Dark Age. Then came [[ScaryDogmaticAliens the Covenant]], and Spartans were the only consistent game-changers. Finally the war was won and only because of Spartans, with the rest of humanity to pick picking up the pieces and debate with the arrested scientists over debating whether their experiments the program's sins were justified.
** The Didact's WorthyOpponent Forthencho, the Lord of Admirals of the [[AdvancedAncientHumans Human]]-San 'Shyuum Human]]-San'Shyuum [[TheAlliance alliance]], could also be seen as this trope. He did not want to start a war with the Forerunners but had to do so to keep the Flood contained. He knew attempting to explain the truth to the Forerunners would take too long and allow the contamination to spread to more and more worlds. His only option was to [[DeathFromAbove cleanse those worlds completely]] and hope he could beat the Forerunners. Naturally, he was ultimately proven right, but it was too late for the ancient humans... or the Forerunners for that matter.
7th Aug '16 7:44:35 PM BroTim11
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Compare/contrast WellIntentionedExtremist, VillainWithGoodPublicity, JerkassHasAPoint, UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans and NecessarilyEvil. Also see PoisonousFriend, when an ally of the hero does this so the hero never has to. The OmniscientMoralityLicense is a common result of this trope being mishandled. The specifically religious version is the SoulsavingCrusader. Often a result of the ending; expect '''spoilers'''. Contrast FascistButInefficient when a government is both ruthless and incompetent. For when some fans feel compelled to justify a villain's actions, even when they ''aren't'' actually right, see DracoInLeatherPants. When the ''author'' feels a character falls under this trope, but the audience disagrees, it's often a result of ValuesDissonance. When this isn't ''intentional'', it can fall under StrawmanHasAPoint.

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Compare/contrast WellIntentionedExtremist, VillainWithGoodPublicity, JerkassHasAPoint, UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans and NecessarilyEvil. Also see PoisonousFriend, when an ally of the hero does this so the hero never has to. The OmniscientMoralityLicense is a common result of this trope being mishandled.mishandled; though if the one doing this is a god or God then the issue gets even more contentious. The specifically religious version is the SoulsavingCrusader. Often a result of the ending; expect '''spoilers'''. Contrast FascistButInefficient when a government is both ruthless and incompetent. For when some fans feel compelled to justify a villain's actions, even when they ''aren't'' actually right, see DracoInLeatherPants. When the ''author'' feels a character falls under this trope, but the audience disagrees, it's often a result of ValuesDissonance. When this isn't ''intentional'', it can fall under StrawmanHasAPoint.
20th Jul '16 4:27:14 PM SpocktorWho
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* In Season 6 of ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', Castiel teams up with the King of Hell to bust open Purgatory and absorb the souls trapped there (torturing and killing many innocents and betraying his friends on the way) so he will be powerful enough to defeat Raphael, who is trying to restart the Apocalypse. In the end he succeeds and kills Raphael... then promptly declares himself [[AGodAmI God]].

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* In Season 6 of ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', Castiel teams up with the King of Hell to bust open Purgatory and absorb the souls trapped there (torturing and killing many innocents and betraying his friends on the way) so he will be powerful enough to defeat Raphael, who is trying to restart the Apocalypse. In the end he succeeds and kills Raphael...Raphael, saving humanity... then promptly declares himself [[AGodAmI God]]. Although when all is said and done, Castiel's plan still clocks in with a much, ''much'' lower body count than Raphael's would have, and [[spoiler:results in far more angel deaths than human]], so Earth got off easy.
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