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* In Marvel's ''[[Series/JessicaJones2015 Jessica Jones]]'', [[spoiler: Officer Simpson]] advocates that they should not take Kilgrave to normal criminal court, given his MoreThanMindControl powers, and instead should simply kill him when they find him. The rest of the characters reject this philosophy, which ultimately leads [[spoiler: Officer Simpson]] to go JumpingOffOfTheSlipperySlope and become a supervillain they have to fight due to SanitySlippage. Except that, in the end, Jessica ends up ''agreeing'' with this viewpoint, having seen that Kilgrave can take control over everyone in earshot whenever he wants to use his powers, and will murder people as casually as he drinks coffee. [[spoiler: So, in the finale, the moment she gets her hands on him, she snaps his neck, ending his terror forever.]]
8th Jan '17 3:25:00 PM PixelKnight
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** A big part of the reason it worked is that his empire is not a Byzantine clusterfuck like most empires. All [[http://girlgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Pax_Transylvania "The Baron's Peace"]] demands is "Don't Make Me Come Over There". Which covers only two things: starting wars and possessing the LostTechnology left behind by [[BigBad The Other]]. [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure He also heavily supports and sponsors the infrastructure of his empire with his technology]] (and solves ingratitude with [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20040112 threats]] of press-ganging the town leadership to construct the new infrastructure).

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** A big part of the reason it worked is that his empire is not a Byzantine clusterfuck like most empires. All [[http://girlgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Pax_Transylvania "The Baron's Peace"]] demands The only demand he makes of the nations he conquers is "Don't Make Me Come Over There". Which covers only two things: starting wars and possessing the LostTechnology left behind by [[BigBad The Other]]. [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure He also heavily supports and sponsors the infrastructure of his empire with his technology]] (and solves ingratitude with [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20040112 threats]] of press-ganging the town leadership to construct the new infrastructure).
29th Dec '16 9:37:04 AM nombretomado
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* The Redeker Plan in ''Literature/WorldWarZ'' was a strategy that required the world's governments to use a good chunk of their civilian population as bait to distract the zombie hordes, while the nation's military, industrial and political figures, as well as the rest of the population, regroup in a single safe zone... and it works. Oh, and the plan was originally created by [[TheApartheidEra apartheid]] UsefulNotes/SouthAfrica to deal with a black revolution.

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* The Redeker Plan in ''Literature/WorldWarZ'' was a strategy that required the world's governments to use a good chunk of their civilian population as bait to distract the zombie hordes, while the nation's military, industrial and political figures, as well as the rest of the population, regroup in a single safe zone... and it works. Oh, and the plan was originally created by [[TheApartheidEra [[UsefulNotes/TheApartheidEra apartheid]] UsefulNotes/SouthAfrica to deal with a black revolution.
2nd Dec '16 1:11:41 PM Kalaong
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** For that matter, the Gatekeepers suppressing teraport technology for millions of years and killing off several thousand times the Milky Way's population in gate clones worked in appeasing said {{Omnicidal Maniac}}s and keeping them from destroying the whole thing. It is a very fortunate thing for all involved that by the time our heroes (inadvertently) re-invent the teraport and challenge the Gatekeepers, they also prove potent enough to stave off the threats the Gatekeepers were protecting them from.

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** For that matter, the Gatekeepers suppressing teraport technology for millions of years and killing off several thousand times the Milky Way's population in gate clones worked in appeasing said {{Omnicidal Maniac}}s and keeping them from destroying the whole thing. It is a very fortunate thing for all involved that by the time our heroes (inadvertently) re-invent the teraport and challenge the Gatekeepers, they also prove potent enough to stave off the threats the Gatekeepers were protecting them from. Especially since [[spoiler:the treaty with the Omnicidal Maniacs wasn't worth whatever it was printed on; the carrot the Gatekeepers got for appeasing them was the plans for turning the galactic core into an infinite-energy generator... that turned out to be in fact a machine that separated the Milky Way Galaxy from the rest of the universe and came within hours of destroying it. It took TimeTravel to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong. Appeasement ''never'' works, overlords]].
20th Oct '16 1:33:48 AM VVK
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* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'''s Lord Vetinari is fond of using this defense as it relates to some of his... odder plans. Commander Vimes, however, notably believes that just because Vetinari's way of doing things may work, doesn't make them ''right'' per se. However, Vimes shares a common opinion with the vast majority of people and institutions in Ankh-Morpork: as much as they may disapprove of Vetinari and his methods, they realize [[VetinariJobSecurity it's better than the alternative]]. In any case, Vetinari is written so that he really ''is'' an enlightened tyrant; his ruthlessness in the name of the greater good really does consistently lead to the greater good. He's impossibly good at what he does in a lot of ways, but this may be the most impressive.

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* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'''s Lord Vetinari is fond an enlightened tyrant who really is enlightened; he has few moral scruples about his means, but his ends really are to the benefit of using Ankh-Morpork. And it does work. There's absolutely no delusion or incompetence involved. One part of this defense as it relates is how he doesn't try to some of his... odder plans. Commander forcibly control most things but only exerts his absolute power at strategic points. (Commander Vimes, however, notably believes that just because Vetinari's way of doing things may work, doesn't make them ''right'' per se. However, Vimes shares a common opinion with the vast majority of people and institutions in Ankh-Morpork: as much as they may disapprove of Vetinari and his methods, they realize [[VetinariJobSecurity it's better than the alternative]]. In any case, Vetinari is written so that he really ''is'' an enlightened tyrant; his ruthlessness in the name of the greater good really does consistently lead to the greater good. He's impossibly good at what he does in a lot of ways, but this may be the most impressive.)
20th Oct '16 1:30:01 AM VVK
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** In ''Discworld/{{Mort}}'', Mort averts the destined assassination of Princess Keli at the orders of her evil uncle. Then he looks at the book which tells how history would've gone if she ''had'' died, and discovered that, however bad a tyrant the uncle himself might've been, he would've united the Sto Plains and thus brought about an era of peace and prosperity under his successors' rule.
12th Oct '16 12:12:12 PM Ilya_Rysenkov
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* In ''Videogame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', while a big deal is made of Superman making himself the dictator of the world, he's evidently managed to severely weaken Ares, God of War from the peace he's created. He's also stopped all crime, all wars and was going to solve environmental problems with Lex Luthhor. Even Batman at one one point muses that the world has become ''much'' safer than before.

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* In ''Videogame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', while a big deal is made of Superman making himself the dictator of the world, he's evidently managed to severely weaken Ares, God of War from the peace he's created. He's also stopped all crime, all wars and was going to solve environmental problems with Lex Luthhor.Luthor. Even Batman at one one point muses that the world has become ''much'' safer than before. It's just his increasingly totalitarian and disproportionally tyrannic measures that don't allow Batman to quit.
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