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31st Oct '17 12:52:32 PM morane
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** UsefulNotes/WarrenHarding is recorded to have said ''I am not fit for this office and I should never have been here''. He also stated ''I have no trouble with my enemies - I can take care of my enemies all right. But my damn friends... They're the ones that keep me walking the floors at night!''
15th Oct '17 7:32:10 PM PaulA
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* In Jerry Pournelle's ''[[Literature/CoDominium Falkenberg's Legion]]'', Falkenberg instructs a friend and fellow officer that "The reason command has no friends isn't to keep from having to send friends to their death. Command has no friends because sooner or later you'll have to betray your friends or your command."

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* In Jerry Pournelle's ''[[Literature/CoDominium Falkenberg's Legion]]'', ''Literature/FalkenbergsLegion'', Falkenberg instructs a friend and fellow officer that "The reason command has no friends isn't to keep from having to send friends to their death. Command has no friends because sooner or later you'll have to betray your friends or your command."
7th Oct '17 3:40:35 AM JackG
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* ''Series/{{Rome}}''. After a slave brings UsefulNotes/PompeyTheGreat a message that UsefulNotes/JuliusCaesar's army is advancing, he's faced with a decision: should he fight or flee? Pompey then gives a monologue saying how envious he is of the slave, who has all his decisions made for him.

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* ''Series/{{Rome}}''. After a slave brings UsefulNotes/PompeyTheGreat a message that UsefulNotes/JuliusCaesar's army is advancing, he's faced with a decision: should he fight or flee? Pompey then gives a monologue saying talks of how envious he is of the slave, who has all his decisions made for him.
3rd Oct '17 12:51:59 PM BeerBaron
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* In ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series' backstory, the legendary Yokudan/Redguard hero Frandar Hunding [[ReluctantRuler reluctantly]] became the leader of the Ansei, also known as "Sword Singers/Saints", an [[TheOrder order]] of [[MasterSwordsman Master Swordsman]] so skilled they could [[SpontaneousWeaponCreation create blades from their very souls]], during the Yokudan War of the Singers against the forces of the corrupter Emperor Hira. Ever the GuileHero, Frandar led the Ansei to victory despite being outnumbered ''thirty to one''. However, he would continue to struggle with this decision and many others he made as leader for the rest of his life. Due to being considered "red with blood" by the citizens of Yokuda, he chose to self-exile to Tamriel, becoming one of the first Yokudans to settle there.
27th Sep '17 8:03:05 AM JackG
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* ''StarCommand'': Shane Ridnaur explains this to a cadet. The commanding officer is [[LonelyAtTheTop alone]] and must appear invincible to encourage confidence among the crew. Also titled "In the Fold". (This is a tv movie and not a film, therefore it belongs in the live action TV folder.) [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Command_(film)]]

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* ''StarCommand'': Shane In the 1996 TV movie ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Command_(film) Star Command]]'' (aka ''In The Fold''), Captain Ridnaur explains this to a cadet. The commanding officer is [[LonelyAtTheTop alone]] and must appear invincible to encourage confidence among the crew. Also titled "In the Fold". (This is a tv movie and not a film, therefore it belongs in the live action TV folder.) [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Command_(film)]]
1st Sep '17 9:55:06 AM KarrinBlue
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* Aqualad from ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' ever since episode six has expressed that being leader is a burden. He has repeatedly attempted and thought about giving up leadership because his actions. During the episode "Disordered" he had accepted leadership after he explained why his team mates can't handle it: "Artemis is too secretive and untrustworthy of others, Superboy is too angry, Kid Flash is too impulsive, Miss Martian is too eager to please everyone and Robin is too young for the burden."
** Robin may also count too. In "Failsafe" after [[spoiler:Aqualad's (temporary) HeroicSacrifice]], he had to take control and intentionally [[spoiler:sent Superboy on a suicide mission and the choice [[BreakTheCutie devastated him]].]] He admits to Black Canary that [[spoiler:he doesn't have it in him to pull off a GoodIsNotNice and he doesn't want to be the next Batman.]]

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* Aqualad from ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' ever since episode six has expressed that being leader is a burden. He has repeatedly attempted and thought about giving up leadership because his actions. During the episode "Disordered" he had accepted leadership after he explained why his team mates can't handle it: "Artemis is too secretive raw and untrustworthy of others, untrusting, Superboy is too angry, Kid Flash is too impulsive, Miss Martian is too eager to please everyone and Robin is too young for the burden."
** Robin may also count too. In "Failsafe" after [[spoiler:Aqualad's (temporary) HeroicSacrifice]], he had to take control and intentionally [[spoiler:sent Superboy on a suicide mission and the choice [[BreakTheCutie devastated him]].]] He admits to Black Canary that [[spoiler:he doesn't have it in him to pull off a GoodIsNotNice [[spoiler:while he ''can'' make hard choices and be TheChessmaster, he doesn't want hates it, and no longer wants to be the next Batman.in command.]]
26th Aug '17 8:38:41 PM ShorinBJ
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** One episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' features Troi taking the Bridge Officer's Test, which she keeps failing until she realizes that the win condition is saving the ship by sending a virtual crewman to certain death. This in turn ties into an earlier episode where, due to an accident, Troi is stuck as the senior most officer on the bridge but her rank was conferred based on her counselor position, not her technical or command experience. So she has to rely on the junior officers to explain the situation to her and make a gut call which, based on the above latter episode, she made wrong. Its only by luck that her decision didn't get anyone killed, something that she acknowledges which is what leads her to seek that Bridge Officer qualification later on.
** Sisko lives and breathes this trope from day one of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''. He has to deal with the volatile and extreme politics of Bajor, the machinations of the Cardassians, the [[spoiler:Dominion War]], his role as Emissary to the Prophets, an (initially) uncooperative First Officer and the difficulties of single fatherhood on top of his regular duties as the commanding officer of Starfleet busiest and most strategically important space station.

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** One episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' features Troi taking the Bridge Officer's Test, bridge officer's test, which she keeps failing until she realizes that the win condition is saving the ship by sending a virtual crewman to certain death. This in turn ties into an earlier episode where, due to an accident, Troi is stuck as the senior most officer on the bridge but her rank was conferred based on her counselor position, not her technical or command experience. So she has to rely on the junior officers to explain the situation to her and make a gut call which, based on the above latter episode, she made wrong. Its It's only by luck that her decision didn't get anyone killed, something that she acknowledges which is what leads her to seek that Bridge Officer bridge officer qualification later on.
** Starting with TNG, the captain often isn't permitted to enter dangerous situations as Kirk frequently did; the first officer goes in their place, because the captain is the single most indispensable person on the ship.
** Sisko lives and breathes this trope from day one of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''. He has to deal with the volatile and extreme politics of Bajor, the machinations of the Cardassians, the [[spoiler:Dominion War]], his role as Emissary to of the Prophets, an (initially) uncooperative First Officer first officer, and the difficulties of single fatherhood on top of his regular duties as the commanding officer of Starfleet one of the busiest and most strategically important space station.stations.



** General George Hammond of ''Series/StargateSG1'' has it tough as head of Stargate Command. He has to juggle the conflicting issues of his SG teams and their safety, the Air Force, the President, other politicians, and of course, the safety of the Galaxy as a whole. The point is driven home when Jack O'Neill is promoted and takes over for Hammond and almost quits because "he can't fill Hammond's shoes".

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** General George Hammond of ''Series/StargateSG1'' has it tough as head of Stargate Command. He has to juggle the conflicting issues of his SG teams and their safety, the Air Force, the President, president, other politicians, and of course, the safety of the Galaxy galaxy as a whole. The point is driven home when Jack O'Neill is promoted and takes over for Hammond and almost quits because "he can't fill Hammond's shoes".



** Later in ''Series/StargateUniverse'', Jack O'Neill chews out Col. Young for hesitating and making the wrong (no) call, pointing out that literally moments ago Col. Carter left two people to die so her ship and crew would be saved.
* Series/{{Buffy|TheVampireSlayer}} often felt this way about her calling as the Slayer making her feel different. It bordered on what could be considered supreme egotism sometimes and when faced with one very tough decision [[spoiler:about whether to kill Anya for restarting her vengeance demon ways]] she claimed that the Scooby Gang was not a democracy, that she's the slayer and eventually all the tough decisions come down to her. I believe the line "I am the law" was even uttered.

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** Later in ''Series/StargateUniverse'', Jack O'Neill chews out Col. Colonel Young for hesitating and making the wrong (no) call, pointing out that literally moments ago Col. Colonel Carter left two people to die so her ship and crew would be saved.
* Series/{{Buffy|TheVampireSlayer}} often felt this way about her calling as the Slayer making her feel different. It bordered on what could be considered supreme egotism sometimes and when faced with one very tough decision [[spoiler:about whether to kill Anya for restarting her vengeance demon ways]] she claimed that the Scooby Gang was not a democracy, that she's the slayer Slayer and eventually all the tough decisions come down to her. I believe the line "I am the law" was even uttered.her.



** After Kelso's retirement, Dr Cox is made the new Chief Of Medicine, and quickly finds just how brutal the trappings of the job really is, and it quickly costs him both any time for actually practicing medicine, and time with his family.

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** After Kelso's retirement, Dr Dr. Cox is made the new Chief Of Medicine, and quickly finds just how brutal the trappings of the job really is, are, and it quickly costs him both any time for actually practicing medicine, and time with his family.
15th Aug '17 8:58:18 PM Rhodes7
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* In ''Series/{{Medici}}'' Cosimo, the son who wanted to be an artist, is picked to lead the family bank (one of the largest in Europe, with a great deal of political power) because of his ingenuity and ruthlessness at need. He most explicitly ''does not'' want this, and years later is baffled by his own son's eagerness to get involved in the family business and ''signoria'' politics. More, he visibly struggles with his guilt over all the things he does in his family's interests, spending much time praying for forgiveness.
26th Jul '17 1:19:35 PM gb00393
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** Slightly touched upon with Tywin. He has Seven Kingdoms to run during an open rebellion and the ship of fools and schemers that he governs does not make it any easier. When Tyrion casually asks him if he's enjoying the position, Tywin finds the query outlandish and repeats back the question in disbelief. In the books, Kevan speaks earnestly about how Tywin is a stern but just man of duty doing a tough job for decades with little appreciation or reward..

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** Slightly touched upon with Tywin. He has Seven Kingdoms to run during an open rebellion and the ship of fools and schemers that he governs does not make it any easier. When Tyrion casually asks him if he's enjoying the position, Tywin finds the query outlandish and repeats back the question in disbelief. In the books, Kevan speaks earnestly about how Tywin is a stern but just man of duty doing a tough job for decades with little appreciation or reward..reward.
** Cersei has moments of fragility and self-pity where she laments the hardships of the regency that have fallen on her. Given her pettiness and dismal management, nobody really empathizes with her.
17th Jul '17 5:18:42 PM nombretomado
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* {{Coldplay}} "Viva la Vida": "Who would ever want to be king?"

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* {{Coldplay}} Music/{{Coldplay}} "Viva la Vida": "Who would ever want to be king?"
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