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20th Jun '16 2:01:14 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* In ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'', the monster city uses human screams as their only power source. At the beginning of the movie, the city is in the middle of an energy crisis (and the titular company, which harvests the screams, is in danger of going under) because human children are getting harder to scare.[[spoiler: This is why Waternoose is the BigBad. He's willing to do ''[[WellIntentionedExtremist anything]]'' to keep the company afloat, including kidnapping children to forcibly extract their screams. Fortunately, the energy crisis is solved by the introduction of a new, better energy source- laughter.]]
10th May '16 10:27:03 AM Jhonny
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* Oil. Powers the vast majority of all freight transport[[note]]electric cargo railways don't count - it's still largely oil that's being burned to create the electricity[[/note]], and it takes several million years to form. The process of refining oil is also used in making plastics and carbon black for tires. It'll run out eventually, and considering how many AfterTheEnd or BadFuture scenarios are caused by the oil running out, we might go this way if we don't find alternative fuel sources.

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* Oil. Powers the vast majority of all freight transport[[note]]electric cargo railways don't count - it's still largely oil that's fossil fuels that are being burned to create the electricity[[/note]], and it takes several million years to form. The process of refining oil is also used in making plastics and carbon black for tires. It'll run out eventually, and considering how many AfterTheEnd or BadFuture scenarios are caused by the oil running out, we might go this way if we don't find alternative fuel sources.
10th May '16 9:06:18 AM hullflyer
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* Oil. Powers the vast majority of all freight transport[[note]] electric cargo railways notwithstanding[[/note]], and it takes several million years to form. The process of refining oil is also used in making plastics and carbon black for tires. It'll run out eventually, and considering how many AfterTheEnd or BadFuture scenarios are caused by the oil running out, we might go this way if we don't find alternative fuel sources.

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* Oil. Powers the vast majority of all freight transport[[note]] electric transport[[note]]electric cargo railways notwithstanding[[/note]], don't count - it's still largely oil that's being burned to create the electricity[[/note]], and it takes several million years to form. The process of refining oil is also used in making plastics and carbon black for tires. It'll run out eventually, and considering how many AfterTheEnd or BadFuture scenarios are caused by the oil running out, we might go this way if we don't find alternative fuel sources.
30th Apr '16 7:13:15 PM Gamermaster
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* Historically this was the argument in favor of slavery. Sure, forcing people to work is not nice and all, but somebody ''has to'' do all the menial labor to feed the elites and mine the resources that keep the machinery going. Turns out machines can do most of those jobs just as well, if not better. JobStealingRobot s were actually a good thing, because the first jobs they stole were the "jobs" of slaves.

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* Historically this was the argument in favor of slavery. Sure, forcing people to work is not nice and all, but somebody ''has to'' do all the menial labor to feed the elites and mine the resources that keep the machinery going. Turns out machines can do most of those jobs just as well, if not better. JobStealingRobot s [[JobStealingRobot Job-Stealing Robots]] were actually a good thing, because the first jobs they stole were the "jobs" of slaves.
5th Apr '16 12:20:35 PM zarpaulus
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** Taken UpToEleven in the ''{{Literature/Foundation}}'' series, where Solarians have engineered themselves into hermaphrodites in order to become independent on other humans... but their genetically modified bodies can now only give birth to embryos so small that artificial wombs and robotic care are the only way to procreate.

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** Taken UpToEleven in * In the ''{{Literature/Foundation}}'' series, where ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' series the first few phases of the Foundation's plan to rebuild the Galactic Empire involve making the neighboring petty kingdoms and republics dependent on their LostTechnology, introduced either by fanatical technician-priests or profit-minded merchant princes, and then rescind their tech when one gets the idea of invading them and taking it for themselves.
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Solarians have engineered themselves into hermaphrodites in order to become independent on other humans... but their genetically modified bodies can now only give birth to embryos so small that artificial wombs and robotic care are the only way to procreate.
4th Apr '16 3:04:15 PM Saber15
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* In the [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness early editions]] of ''Tabletopgame/BattleTech'', humanity depended on irreplaceable FasterThanLightTravel-capable starships to travel as [[LostTechnology the knowledge and means]] to construct new ones was lost in almost [[ForeverWar 300 years of total war]]; a character in the early [[Franchise/BattleTechExpandedUniverse expanded universe]] mentions that philosophers and scientists ponder what will happen when the last jumpship's Kearny-Fuchida drive sputters to a halt. However, the scale of destruction of humanity's tech base [[ApocalypseNot was reduced to being merely crippling]] via RetCon and UnreliableNarrator in later editions when the writers realized the situation was unsustainable both from a plot point and economics point - can't sell new sourcebooks if there's no new mechs or starships!
4th Apr '16 10:24:18 AM Jhonny
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* Historically this was the argument in favor of slavery. Sure, forcing people to work is not nice and all, but somebody ''has to'' do all the menial labor to feed the elites and mine the resources that keep the machinery going. Turns out machines can do most of those jobs just as well, if not better. JobStealingRobots were actually a good thing, because the first jobs they stole were the "jobs" of slaves.

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* Historically this was the argument in favor of slavery. Sure, forcing people to work is not nice and all, but somebody ''has to'' do all the menial labor to feed the elites and mine the resources that keep the machinery going. Turns out machines can do most of those jobs just as well, if not better. JobStealingRobots JobStealingRobot s were actually a good thing, because the first jobs they stole were the "jobs" of slaves.
4th Apr '16 10:23:20 AM Jhonny
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* Historically this was the argument in favor of slavery. Sure, forcing people to work is not nice and all, but somebody ''has to'' do all the menial labor to feed the elites and mine the resources that keep the machinery going. Turns out machines can do most of those jobs just as well, if not better. JobStealingRobots were actually a good thing, because the first jobs they stole were the "jobs" of slaves.
4th Apr '16 10:19:52 AM Jhonny
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* Oil. Powers every major form of freight transport, and it takes several million years to form. The process of refining oil is also used in making plastics and carbon black for tires. It'll run out eventually, and considering how many AfterTheEnd or BadFuture scenarios are caused by the oil running out, we might go this way if we don't find alternative fuel sources.

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* Oil. Powers every major form the vast majority of all freight transport, transport[[note]] electric cargo railways notwithstanding[[/note]], and it takes several million years to form. The process of refining oil is also used in making plastics and carbon black for tires. It'll run out eventually, and considering how many AfterTheEnd or BadFuture scenarios are caused by the oil running out, we might go this way if we don't find alternative fuel sources.
4th Apr '16 10:16:54 AM Jhonny
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** The dependence on oil is much worse in countries that are dependent on cars to a great degree. If the oil runs out, Swiss people will still be able to take the train to work - though there might not be any work at their pharmaceutical company (dependent on oil) and no groceries in the supermarket (transported mostly by trucks that run on oil), eventually society could be transformed. Now imagine a country where almost all infrastructure is highways and airports, none of which can run without oil. People who have been warning about that scenario for decades often consider themselves to be telling a CassandraTruth, but on the other hand cars are just so damned ''useful''...
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