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9th Aug '16 11:39:43 PM PaulA
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* In the ''{{Dragaera}}'' novels, the loss of the Orb in Adron's Disaster caused the Dragaeran Empire to collapse into anarchy, its government shattered and its populace ravaged by plague, invasion, and catastrophe. Only the return of Zerika from the Paths of the Dead, bearing the re-created Orb, re-started the Cycle and restored sorcery and order to the Empire.

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* In the ''{{Dragaera}}'' ''Literature/{{Dragaera}}'' novels, the loss of the Orb in Adron's Disaster caused the Dragaeran Empire to collapse into anarchy, its government shattered and its populace ravaged by plague, invasion, and catastrophe. Only the return of Zerika from the Paths of the Dead, bearing the re-created Orb, re-started the Cycle and restored sorcery and order to the Empire.
31st Jul '16 2:28:51 AM Morgenthaler
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* Mother in ''DresdenCodak'': a world-assimilating AI/ GreyGoo /[[TheSingularity Singularity]] that provides everything Humanity asks for - to point of making people unnecessary, irrelevant and progressively infantile. They go to the verge of extinction as life in the virtual worlds she/it provides takes precedence over breeding. When humanity finally goes to war with Mother, victory comes at a terrible cost: much of human history and culture dies with Mother, and every human is [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic blinded]].

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* Mother in ''DresdenCodak'': ''Webcomic/DresdenCodak'': a world-assimilating AI/ GreyGoo /[[TheSingularity Singularity]] that provides everything Humanity asks for - to point of making people unnecessary, irrelevant and progressively infantile. They go to the verge of extinction as life in the virtual worlds she/it provides takes precedence over breeding. When humanity finally goes to war with Mother, victory comes at a terrible cost: much of human history and culture dies with Mother, and every human is [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic blinded]].
20th Jun '16 2:01:14 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* In ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'', the monster city uses human screams as their only power source. At the beginning of the movie, the city is in the middle of an energy crisis (and the titular company, which harvests the screams, is in danger of going under) because human children are getting harder to scare.[[spoiler: This is why Waternoose is the BigBad. He's willing to do ''[[WellIntentionedExtremist anything]]'' to keep the company afloat, including kidnapping children to forcibly extract their screams. Fortunately, the energy crisis is solved by the introduction of a new, better energy source- laughter.]]
10th May '16 10:27:03 AM Jhonny
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* Oil. Powers the vast majority of all freight transport[[note]]electric cargo railways don't count - it's still largely oil that's being burned to create the electricity[[/note]], and it takes several million years to form. The process of refining oil is also used in making plastics and carbon black for tires. It'll run out eventually, and considering how many AfterTheEnd or BadFuture scenarios are caused by the oil running out, we might go this way if we don't find alternative fuel sources.

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* Oil. Powers the vast majority of all freight transport[[note]]electric cargo railways don't count - it's still largely oil that's fossil fuels that are being burned to create the electricity[[/note]], and it takes several million years to form. The process of refining oil is also used in making plastics and carbon black for tires. It'll run out eventually, and considering how many AfterTheEnd or BadFuture scenarios are caused by the oil running out, we might go this way if we don't find alternative fuel sources.
10th May '16 9:06:18 AM hullflyer
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* Oil. Powers the vast majority of all freight transport[[note]] electric cargo railways notwithstanding[[/note]], and it takes several million years to form. The process of refining oil is also used in making plastics and carbon black for tires. It'll run out eventually, and considering how many AfterTheEnd or BadFuture scenarios are caused by the oil running out, we might go this way if we don't find alternative fuel sources.

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* Oil. Powers the vast majority of all freight transport[[note]] electric transport[[note]]electric cargo railways notwithstanding[[/note]], don't count - it's still largely oil that's being burned to create the electricity[[/note]], and it takes several million years to form. The process of refining oil is also used in making plastics and carbon black for tires. It'll run out eventually, and considering how many AfterTheEnd or BadFuture scenarios are caused by the oil running out, we might go this way if we don't find alternative fuel sources.
30th Apr '16 7:13:15 PM Gamermaster
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* Historically this was the argument in favor of slavery. Sure, forcing people to work is not nice and all, but somebody ''has to'' do all the menial labor to feed the elites and mine the resources that keep the machinery going. Turns out machines can do most of those jobs just as well, if not better. JobStealingRobot s were actually a good thing, because the first jobs they stole were the "jobs" of slaves.

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* Historically this was the argument in favor of slavery. Sure, forcing people to work is not nice and all, but somebody ''has to'' do all the menial labor to feed the elites and mine the resources that keep the machinery going. Turns out machines can do most of those jobs just as well, if not better. JobStealingRobot s [[JobStealingRobot Job-Stealing Robots]] were actually a good thing, because the first jobs they stole were the "jobs" of slaves.
5th Apr '16 12:20:35 PM zarpaulus
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** Taken UpToEleven in the ''{{Literature/Foundation}}'' series, where Solarians have engineered themselves into hermaphrodites in order to become independent on other humans... but their genetically modified bodies can now only give birth to embryos so small that artificial wombs and robotic care are the only way to procreate.

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** Taken UpToEleven in * In the ''{{Literature/Foundation}}'' series, where ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' series the first few phases of the Foundation's plan to rebuild the Galactic Empire involve making the neighboring petty kingdoms and republics dependent on their LostTechnology, introduced either by fanatical technician-priests or profit-minded merchant princes, and then rescind their tech when one gets the idea of invading them and taking it for themselves.
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Solarians have engineered themselves into hermaphrodites in order to become independent on other humans... but their genetically modified bodies can now only give birth to embryos so small that artificial wombs and robotic care are the only way to procreate.
4th Apr '16 3:04:15 PM Saber15
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* In the [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness early editions]] of ''Tabletopgame/BattleTech'', humanity depended on irreplaceable FasterThanLightTravel-capable starships to travel as [[LostTechnology the knowledge and means]] to construct new ones was lost in almost [[ForeverWar 300 years of total war]]; a character in the early [[Franchise/BattleTechExpandedUniverse expanded universe]] mentions that philosophers and scientists ponder what will happen when the last jumpship's Kearny-Fuchida drive sputters to a halt. However, the scale of destruction of humanity's tech base [[ApocalypseNot was reduced to being merely crippling]] via RetCon and UnreliableNarrator in later editions when the writers realized the situation was unsustainable both from a plot point and economics point - can't sell new sourcebooks if there's no new mechs or starships!
4th Apr '16 10:24:18 AM Jhonny
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* Historically this was the argument in favor of slavery. Sure, forcing people to work is not nice and all, but somebody ''has to'' do all the menial labor to feed the elites and mine the resources that keep the machinery going. Turns out machines can do most of those jobs just as well, if not better. JobStealingRobots were actually a good thing, because the first jobs they stole were the "jobs" of slaves.

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* Historically this was the argument in favor of slavery. Sure, forcing people to work is not nice and all, but somebody ''has to'' do all the menial labor to feed the elites and mine the resources that keep the machinery going. Turns out machines can do most of those jobs just as well, if not better. JobStealingRobots JobStealingRobot s were actually a good thing, because the first jobs they stole were the "jobs" of slaves.
4th Apr '16 10:23:20 AM Jhonny
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* Historically this was the argument in favor of slavery. Sure, forcing people to work is not nice and all, but somebody ''has to'' do all the menial labor to feed the elites and mine the resources that keep the machinery going. Turns out machines can do most of those jobs just as well, if not better. JobStealingRobots were actually a good thing, because the first jobs they stole were the "jobs" of slaves.
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