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17th Jun '16 7:53:59 PM karstovich2
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** Family trees became especially convoluted due to Zeus' recurring habit of sleeping with descendants of his -- for instance, he fathered the little-known god Zagreus with Persephone, his daughter by his sister Demeter, and Herakles with Alcmene, the granddaughter of his son Perseus. To add extra complications, there were several instances of mortal women having children by both their divine lover and mortal husband, often as fraternal twins (in at least one case one mother was simultaneously pregnant by Hermes and Apollo in this way). The most well known example is Leda, whose children were Castor and Clytaimnestra (fathered by her husband Tyndareus) and Polydeuces and Helen (fathered by Zeus) (Yes, all at once. Leda laid two eggs, as [[InsaneTrollLogic Zeus had mated with her in the form of a swan]]).

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** Family trees became especially convoluted due to Zeus' recurring habit of sleeping with descendants of his -- for instance, he fathered the little-known god Zagreus with Persephone, his daughter by his sister Demeter, and Herakles with Alcmene, the granddaughter of his son Perseus. To add extra complications, there were several instances of mortal women having children by both their divine lover and mortal husband, often as fraternal twins (in at least one case one mother was simultaneously pregnant by Hermes and Apollo in this way).way), although in one case, it happened with a single child (Theseus, who was the son both of the god Poseidon and the mortal King of Athens Aegus, whom his mother Aethra had bedded in the same night). The most well known example is Leda, whose children were Castor and Clytaimnestra (fathered by her husband Tyndareus) and Polydeuces and Helen (fathered by Zeus) (Yes, all at once. Leda laid two eggs, as [[InsaneTrollLogic Zeus had mated with her in the form of a swan]]).
13th Jun '16 3:12:09 PM J1233191
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* In secluded societies, people were prone to marry close because it was easier that way. Before modern communication and roads, many remote areas in Norway had this problem; in the valley of Setesdal, certain inherital diseases spread because of this, and in nearby Telemark, some families were as tangled as any. In one case, a farmer married his cousin because she was close. One of his daughters married her second cousin, and so on. After getting all those details straight, one family member actually mused: "it is a wonder we didn`t end up morons all of us". The family tree in question [[http://www.orgelhuset.org/en/ramme1.htm?6 looks something like this]], and is only one example of many.

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* In secluded societies, people were prone to marry close because it was easier that way. Before modern communication and roads, many remote areas in Norway had this problem; in the valley of Setesdal, certain inherital diseases spread because of this, and in nearby Telemark, some families were as tangled as any. In one case, a farmer married his cousin because she was close. One of his daughters married her second cousin, and so on. After getting all those details straight, one family member actually mused: "it is a wonder we didn`t end up morons all of us". The family tree in question [[http://www.orgelhuset.org/en/ramme1.htm?6 org/en/slekt.htm looks something like this]], and is only one example of many.
3rd Jun '16 2:19:46 PM Griffonmender
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* For a fairly short game, ''VideoGame/JadeEmpire'' packs in a lot of secret relatives of the Emperor. Every single one is introduced well before their particular [[TheReveal Reveal]]. It's a fairly simple tree (three brothers, two of whom have daughters), but by time you learn who the third brother is, you'd be forgiven for thinking ''everybody'''s related to the Emperor somehow.

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* For a fairly short game, ''VideoGame/JadeEmpire'' packs in a lot of secret relatives of the Emperor. Every single one is introduced well before their particular [[TheReveal Reveal]]. It's a fairly simple tree (three brothers, two of whom have daughters), but by the time you learn who the third brother is, you'd be forgiven for thinking ''everybody'''s related to the Emperor somehow.
22nd Apr '16 11:34:12 AM sorako
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* ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'' has a family ''[[StableTimeLoop loop]]''- the main character is [[spoiler: the son of his own clone and [[OedipusComplex his girlfriend's clone]]. To be exact, his father is the reincarnation of his clone and his mother is the reincarnation of Sakura's clone]]. Explaining the complicatedness further would require a massive wall of text and an intimate understanding of both Manga/CardcaptorSakura and cross-multiversal genetics. This doesn't even take into account that [[spoiler:said parents [[RetGone got magically paradoxed both into AND out of existence.]]]]

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* ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'' has a family ''[[StableTimeLoop loop]]''- the main character is [[spoiler: the son of his own clone and [[OedipusComplex his girlfriend's clone]]. To be exact, his father is the reincarnation of his clone and his mother is the reincarnation of Sakura's clone]]. Explaining the complicatedness further would require a massive wall of text and an intimate understanding of both Manga/CardcaptorSakura ''Manga/CardcaptorSakura'' and cross-multiversal genetics. This doesn't even take into account that [[spoiler:said parents [[RetGone got magically paradoxed both into AND out of existence.]]]]
22nd Apr '16 11:31:21 AM sorako
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* ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'' has one of these, once you bring all the relationships between the characters into it. A rough chart of these relationships looks [[http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6298/negima2.png like this.]] Even if one would remove everything but the romantic and family ties, it would still be a mess.
** Naturally, time travel and the creation of sentient robots factor into this. If you think about it hard enough, you can actually make a case that [[AdorablyPrecociousChild Negi]] is [[RobotGirl Chachamaru's]] great-great-etc grandfather. [[spoiler: Chachamaru's "mother", Chao, is actually Negi's KidFromTheFuture.]]
* The [[spoiler: Kamina family]] in ''Anime/RahXephon''. Explaining it would spoil the show so you've been warned. The short version of it is that [[spoiler: half the cast is related to Ayato in one way or another]].
** [[spoiler: Maya, Ayato's adoptive mother is actually his aunt. She was married to Watari who is Ayato's father. Ayato's real mother is Quon, Maya's twin sister. Quon lived with Itsuki who claimed to be her brother. He is actually her son and Ayato's twin brother. For further confusion let us take a look at how the Shitow family factors into this. Rikudou was Maya's adoptive father and is the uncle to Haruka and Megumi Shitow, who are sisters. Ayato met Haruka earlier but her name was Mishima before her mother remarried so he didn't know it was her when he met her the second time. This led to Ixtli the soul of the titular [=RahXephon=] taking her form to try to guide Ayato.]]

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* ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'' has one of these, once you bring all the relationships between the characters into it. A rough chart of these relationships looks [[http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6298/negima2.png like this.]] Even if one would remove everything but the romantic and family ties, it would still be a mess.
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mess. Naturally, time travel and the creation of sentient robots factor into this. If you think about it hard enough, you can actually make a case that [[AdorablyPrecociousChild Negi]] is [[RobotGirl Chachamaru's]] great-great-etc grandfather. [[spoiler: Chachamaru's "mother", Chao, is actually Negi's KidFromTheFuture.]]
* The [[spoiler: Kamina family]] in ''Anime/RahXephon''. Explaining it would spoil the show so you've been warned. The short version of it is that [[spoiler: half the cast is related to Ayato in one way or another]].
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another]]. As for the long version: [[spoiler: Maya, Ayato's adoptive mother is actually his aunt. She was married to Watari who is Ayato's father. Ayato's real mother is Quon, Maya's twin sister. Quon lived with Itsuki who claimed to be her brother. He is actually her son and Ayato's twin brother. For further confusion let us take a look at how the Shitow family factors into this. Rikudou was Maya's adoptive father and is the uncle to Haruka and Megumi Shitow, who are sisters. Ayato met Haruka earlier but her name was Mishima before her mother remarried so he didn't know it was her when he met her the second time. This led to Ixtli the soul of the titular [=RahXephon=] taking her form to try to guide Ayato.]]



* ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'' has a family ''[[StableTimeLoop loop]]''- the main character is [[spoiler: the son of his own clone and [[OedipusComplex his girlfriend's clone]]. To be exact, his father is the reincarnation of his clone and his mother is the reincarnation of Sakura's clone]]. Explaining the complicatedness further would require a massive wall of text and an intimate understanding of both Manga/CardcaptorSakura and cross-multiversal genetics.
** [[spoiler: This doesn't even take into account that said parents got magically paradoxed both into AND out of existence.]]

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* ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'' has a family ''[[StableTimeLoop loop]]''- the main character is [[spoiler: the son of his own clone and [[OedipusComplex his girlfriend's clone]]. To be exact, his father is the reincarnation of his clone and his mother is the reincarnation of Sakura's clone]]. Explaining the complicatedness further would require a massive wall of text and an intimate understanding of both Manga/CardcaptorSakura and cross-multiversal genetics.
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genetics. This doesn't even take into account that said [[spoiler:said parents [[RetGone got magically paradoxed both into AND out of existence.]]]]]]
15th Apr '16 9:11:44 PM cherrychels
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* True to its comic book roots, the Petrelli family tree on ''Series/{{Heroes}}'' is slowly but surely getting its way there. It started with mom, Angela, sons Peter and Nathan, and Nathan's wife and sons. Then Claire was revealed to be part of the Petrelli family because she is Nathan's daughter, tying in Claire's adopted family, the Bennets, and her biological mother Meredith. It is later revealed Meredith has a brother, Flint, and Angela has a long-lost sister, Alice.

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* True to its comic book roots, the Petrelli family tree on ''Series/{{Heroes}}'' is slowly but surely getting its way there. It started with mom, Angela, sons Peter and Nathan, and Nathan's wife and sons. Then Claire was is also revealed to be part of the Petrelli family because she is as Nathan's daughter, tying in Claire's adopted family, the Bennets, and her biological mother Meredith. It is later revealed Meredith has a brother, Flint, and Angela has a long-lost sister, Alice.
15th Apr '16 9:03:41 PM cherrychels
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* True to its comic book roots, the Petrelli family tree on ''Series/{{Heroes}}'' is slowly but surely getting its way there. It started with mom, Angela, sons Peter and Nathan, and Nathan's wife and sons. Then Claire was revealed as Nathan's daughter, tying in her adopted family, the Bennets, and her biological mother Meredith. It was later revealed Meredith has a brother, Flint, and Angela has a long-lost sister, Alice.

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* True to its comic book roots, the Petrelli family tree on ''Series/{{Heroes}}'' is slowly but surely getting its way there. It started with mom, Angela, sons Peter and Nathan, and Nathan's wife and sons. Then Claire was revealed as to be part of the Petrelli family because she is Nathan's daughter, tying in her Claire's adopted family, the Bennets, and her biological mother Meredith. It was is later revealed Meredith has a brother, Flint, and Angela has a long-lost sister, Alice.
15th Apr '16 8:59:05 PM cherrychels
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* True to its comic book roots, the Petrelli family tree on ''Series/{{Heroes}}'' is slowly but surely getting its way there. It started with mom Angela, sons Peter and Nathan, and Nathan's wife and kids. Then Claire was revealed as a Secret Petrelli Child (by Nathan), tying in her adopted family the Bennets and biological mother Meredith. Later we found out that Flint is Meredith's brother, and that Angela's husband Arthur and sister Alice were still alive.

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* True to its comic book roots, the Petrelli family tree on ''Series/{{Heroes}}'' is slowly but surely getting its way there. It started with mom mom, Angela, sons Peter and Nathan, and Nathan's wife and kids. sons. Then Claire was revealed as a Secret Petrelli Child (by Nathan), Nathan's daughter, tying in her adopted family family, the Bennets Bennets, and her biological mother Meredith. Later we found out that Flint is Meredith's It was later revealed Meredith has a brother, Flint, and that Angela's husband Arthur and sister Alice were still alive.Angela has a long-lost sister, Alice.
1st Apr '16 12:08:50 PM Unityd3v
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** Comicbook/{{Wolverine}}'s family is now approaching this as well. Originaly all he had was an adopted daughter, then it grew to include the [[Comicbook/{{Daken}} son he never knew he had]], his [[OppositeSexClone female clone]] [[[Comicbook/X23 Laura]] who he later adopted. Laura later discovered that she also had clones, who she considers sisters. And that's before we add in Logan's future son with Mystique as well as his time displaced future self.

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** Comicbook/{{Wolverine}}'s family is now approaching this as well. Originaly all he had was an adopted daughter, then it grew to include the [[Comicbook/{{Daken}} Comicbook/{{Daken}}, the son he never knew he had]], his [[OppositeSexClone female clone]] [[[Comicbook/X23 [[Comicbook/{{X23}} Laura]] who he later adopted. Laura later discovered that she was also had clones, who she considers cloned and has sisters. And that's before we add in Logan's future son with Mystique as well as his time displaced [[[Comicbook/OldManLogan future self.self]]].
1st Apr '16 12:04:07 PM Unityd3v
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** Comicbook/{{Wolverine}}'s family is now approaching this as well. Originaly all he had was an adopted daughter, then it grew to include the [[Comicbook/{{Daken}} son he never knew he had]], his [[OppositeSexClone female clone]] [[[Comicbook/X23 Laura]] who he later adopted. Laura later discovered that she also had clones, who she considers sisters. And that's before we add in Logan's future son with Mystique as well as his time displaced future self.
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