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* In the historical novel ''Patience and Sarah'', Sarah decides to go westward from her home in Connecticut. She pretends to be a man named "Sam" and befriends a traveler named Parson. Parson eventually admits his attraction to Sam, which causes Sarah to reveal her gender. She isn't [[IncompatibleOrientation interested in men]] anyway.
10th Sep '17 10:21:03 AM nighttrainfm
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** It only gets better.[[spoiler: Late in the novel, the squad has to infiltrate a castle dressed as serving girls. The only one who can convincingly pass for a woman is the ''male'' captain. And many of the castle guards [[HilarityEnsues find him to be a very pretty lady]]. ]]

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** It only gets better. [[spoiler: Late in the novel, the squad has to infiltrate a castle dressed as serving girls. The only one who can convincingly pass for a woman is the ''male'' captain. And many of the castle guards [[HilarityEnsues find him to be a very pretty lady]]. ]]
10th Sep '17 10:20:39 AM nighttrainfm
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* Twisted all over the place in ''Discworld/MonstrousRegiment'', where [[spoiler:''everyone'' is a SweetPollyOliver (except the rather feminine commanding officer, of course).]] [[spoiler:The Prince of Zlobenia tries to hit on Polly, who's [[RecursiveCrossdressing a woman pretending to be a man dressed up as a woman]] and gets a GroinAttack for it.]]
** It only gets better.[[spoiler: Late in the novel, the squad has to infiltrate a castle dressed as serving girls. The only one who can convincingly pass for a woman is the ''male'' captain. And many of the castle guards [[HilarityEnsues find him to be a very pretty lady]]. ]]

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* Twisted all over the place in ''Discworld/MonstrousRegiment'', where [[spoiler:''everyone'' is a SweetPollyOliver (except the rather feminine commanding officer, of course).]] [[spoiler:The Prince of Zlobenia tries to hit on Polly, who's [[RecursiveCrossdressing a woman pretending to be a man dressed up as a woman]] and gets a GroinAttack for it.]]
** It only gets better.[[spoiler: Late in the novel, the squad has to infiltrate a castle dressed as serving girls. The only one who can convincingly pass for a woman is the ''male'' captain. And many of the castle guards [[HilarityEnsues find him to be a very pretty lady]]. ]]
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** Twisted all over the place in ''Discworld/MonstrousRegiment'', where [[spoiler:''everyone'' is a SweetPollyOliver (except the rather feminine commanding officer, of course). The Prince of Zlobenia tries to hit on Polly, who's [[RecursiveCrossdressing a woman pretending to be a man dressed up as a woman]] and gets a GroinAttack for it.]]
** It only gets better.[[spoiler: Late in the novel, the squad has to infiltrate a castle dressed as serving girls. The only one who can convincingly pass for a woman is the ''male'' captain. And many of the castle guards [[HilarityEnsues find him to be a very pretty lady]]. ]]
10th Sep '17 10:19:47 AM nighttrainfm
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->''"That young man fills me with hope. And some other emotions that are weird and deeply confusing to me."''

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->''"That young man fills me with hope. And some other emotions that are weird and and...deeply confusing to me.confusing."''
10th Aug '17 1:21:33 PM StFan
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No matter [[PaperThinDisguise how flawless]] the SweetPollyOliver's [[WholesomeCrossdresser disguise]] at fooling her male peers, there is some primordial part of a man's brain that sees through the disguise… and is attracted to their new drinking buddy.

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No matter [[PaperThinDisguise how flawless]] the SweetPollyOliver's [[WholesomeCrossdresser disguise]] at fooling her male peers, there is some primordial part of a man's brain that sees through the disguise… disguise... and is attracted to their new drinking buddy.



* There's an example with Nagisa in ''Manga/UruseiYatsura.'' He looks just like a girl, but Ataru and Mendo actually get suspicious by the fact that they, despite going after everything in a skirt, aren't attracted to "her". Ataru instantly realises Ryuunosuke's real gender as well, and goes after "him" along with all the girls.

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* There's an example with Nagisa in ''Manga/UruseiYatsura.'' ''Manga/UruseiYatsura''. He looks just like a girl, but Ataru and Mendo actually get suspicious by the fact that they, despite going after everything in a skirt, aren't attracted to "her". Ataru instantly realises realizes Ryuunosuke's real gender as well, and goes after "him" along with all the girls.



* In ''Manga/HanaKimi'', Nakatsu feels conflicted because he thinks he is falling in love with Mizuki, but he also believes that Mizuki is a boy. Unfortunately for him, when Mizuki is finally revealed as a girl, Nakatsu finds himself in the loser side of the LoveTriangle.
** Some would argue that he was ''always'' on the loser side of the triangle. Nanba, the ladies man Dorm RA, on the other hand proclaims that he knew he was right about Mizuki being a girl all along, because his ladies radar never lies.

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* In ''Manga/HanaKimi'', Nakatsu feels conflicted because he thinks he is falling in love with Mizuki, but he also believes that Mizuki is a boy. Unfortunately for him, when Mizuki is finally revealed as a girl, Nakatsu finds himself in the loser side of the LoveTriangle.
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LoveTriangle. Some would argue that he was ''always'' on the loser side of the triangle. Nanba, the ladies ladies' man Dorm RA, on the other hand hand, proclaims that he knew he was right about Mizuki being a girl all along, because his ladies radar never lies.



* ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' references this trope in one storyline that occurs shortly after WholesomeCrossdresser Ukyo joins the series as Ranma's final ArrangedMarriage. As part of her "masquerade" as a boy, Ukyo attended an all-boy's junior high school. There, she came to the attention of another WholesomeCrossdresser, a boy named Tsubasa Kurenai... who promptly declared he was in love with Ukyo and harassed her in pursuit of a relationship. Until the storyline in question, she had no idea that Tsubasa had actually seen through her disguise and believed him to be the homosexual version of this trope, attracted to "his" {{Bishonen}} looks. Akane and Ranma, meanwhile, believed a straighter version of this trope- aka that Tsubasa was a girl who had fallen for Ukyo under the mistaken belief that the {{Bifauxnen}} was actually a guy.

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* ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' references this trope in one storyline that occurs shortly after WholesomeCrossdresser Ukyo Ukyō joins the series as Ranma's final ArrangedMarriage. As part of her "masquerade" as a boy, Ukyo Ukyō attended an all-boy's junior high school. There, she came to the attention of another WholesomeCrossdresser, a boy named Tsubasa Kurenai... who promptly declared he was in love with Ukyo Ukyō and harassed her in pursuit of a relationship. Until the storyline in question, she had no idea that Tsubasa had actually seen through her disguise and believed him to be the homosexual version of this trope, attracted to "his" {{Bishonen}} looks. Akane and Ranma, meanwhile, believed a straighter version of this trope- aka trope -- that Tsubasa was a girl who had fallen for Ukyo Ukyō under the mistaken belief that the {{Bifauxnen}} was actually a guy.



* Upon Sou's and Mashiro's first meeting in ''Manga/AfterSchoolNightmare'' Sou thinks of Mashiro as a cute girl-- despite Mashiro's act as a normal man. Sou is, however, not troubled by his attraction to Mashiro.
** Of course, Mashiro is not neccesarilly a man nor a woman.

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* Upon Sou's and Mashiro's first meeting in ''Manga/AfterSchoolNightmare'' Sou thinks of Mashiro as a cute girl-- girl -- despite Mashiro's act as a normal man. Sou is, however, not troubled by his attraction to Mashiro.
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Mashiro. Of course, Mashiro is not neccesarilly necessarily a man nor a woman.



* ''ComicBook/{{Marvel 1602}}'' had a rather interesting subversion with a LoveTriangle involving the {{Expy}}s of Scott Summers, Jean Grey, and Angel. Jean was posing as a boy to avoid rousing suspicion about Javier's school (no such thing as officially educating girls in the real 1602 England, much less ''co-ed schools''), and was romantically involved with Scott. When she tried befriending newcomer Inquisition-escapee Angel, Scott becomes jealous, figuring that Angel like everyone else knows she's really a young woman. (He gets gigantic-size hints, but fails to parse them.) Eventually, Scott discovers he ''didn't,'' and apologizes for being such a jerk about his mistaken territoriality...and Angel responds, "You were not wrong. I saw a boy...but I believe I was in love with that boy."

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* ''ComicBook/{{Marvel 1602}}'' had ''ComicBook/Marvel1602'' has a rather interesting subversion with a LoveTriangle involving the {{Expy}}s of Scott Summers, Jean Grey, and Angel. Jean was is posing as a boy to avoid rousing suspicion about Javier's school (no such thing as officially educating girls in the real 1602 England, much less ''co-ed schools''), and was is romantically involved with Scott. When she tried tries befriending newcomer Inquisition-escapee Angel, Scott becomes jealous, figuring that Angel like everyone else knows she's really a young woman. (He gets gigantic-size hints, but fails to parse them.) Eventually, Scott discovers he ''didn't,'' and apologizes for being such a jerk about his mistaken territoriality... and Angel responds, "You were not wrong. I saw a boy... but I believe I was in love with that boy."



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* ''Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical'' subverts this in the sequel when Dumbledore is only attracted to Umbridge because he thinks she's a man in drag.



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* In ''Disney/{{Mulan}}'', we have Captain Shang, who grows close with young soldier [[SweetPollyOliver Fa Ping]], an awkward [[TheKlutz klutz]] who eventually TookALevelInBadass and earned everyone's respect and friendship. When he finds out that [[SamusIsAGirl "Ping" is in fact a girl]] (namely Mulan), he is of course shocked, particularly because during those times, a girl joining the army is a crime punishable by death. Fortunately, Mulan had saved his life earlier and he repaid the debt to her by merely abandoning her. When she manages to save the day a second time, Captain Shang's feelings for her become obvious to everyone except perhaps him.

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* In ''Disney/{{Mulan}}'', we have Captain Shang, who grows close with young soldier [[SweetPollyOliver Fa Ping]], an awkward [[TheKlutz klutz]] who eventually TookALevelInBadass and earned earns everyone's respect and friendship. When he finds out that [[SamusIsAGirl "Ping" is in fact a girl]] (namely Mulan), he is of course shocked, particularly because during those times, a girl joining the army is a crime punishable by death. Fortunately, Mulan had has saved his life earlier and he repaid repays the debt to her by merely abandoning her. When she manages to save the day a second time, Captain Shang's feelings for her become obvious to everyone except perhaps him.



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* The live-action movie version of ''Manga/RoseOfVersailles'' shows Fersen being extremely relieved at discovering that Lady Oscar is, indeed, a lady - and admitting that "I was beginning to wonder about myself".

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* The live-action movie version of ''Manga/RoseOfVersailles'' shows Fersen being extremely relieved at discovering that Lady Oscar is, indeed, a lady - -- and admitting that "I was beginning to wonder about myself".myself."



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* In one episode of ''NorthernExposure'', Chris the DJ takes a sabbatical at a monastery and finds himself overwhelmed with lust for one of the other monks, in spite of "him" always wearing "his" hood up in a largely shapeless robe and having taken a vow of silence. Near the end the monk breaks her vow of silence to help sooth Chris's inner confusion. (In spite of being pretty relaxed in every other way he has apparently always been all about women prior to this.)

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* In one episode of ''NorthernExposure'', ''Series/NorthernExposure'', Chris the DJ takes a sabbatical at a monastery and finds himself overwhelmed with lust for one of the other monks, in spite of "him" always wearing "his" hood up in a largely shapeless robe and having taken a vow of silence. Near the end the monk breaks her vow of silence to help sooth Chris's inner confusion. (In spite of being pretty relaxed in every other way he has apparently always been all about women prior to this.)



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* Some productions of Creator/WilliamShakespeare's ''Theatre/TwelfthNight'' emphasize this between Orsino and Viola, though it's not explicit in the text, including the Hippie [[TheMusical Musical Adaptation]] ''YourOwnThing'' and the high school adaptation ''ShesTheMan''
** In ''Theatre/AllShookUp'', Orsino is portrayed as a LadyKillerInLove... with a 'man'. He explicitly has to deal with suddenly having 'homosexual' feelings, and even fully accepts and chooses to act on them before the masquerade is revealed to him.
** Ditto some productions of ''Theatre/AsYouLikeIt''. Though Orlando must at least have started to suspect Rosalind's identity.

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* Some productions of Creator/WilliamShakespeare's ''Theatre/TwelfthNight'' emphasize this between Orsino and Viola, though it's not explicit in the text, including the Hippie [[TheMusical Musical Adaptation]] ''YourOwnThing'' and the high school high-school adaptation ''ShesTheMan''
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In ''Theatre/AllShookUp'', Orsino is portrayed as a LadyKillerInLove... with a 'man'. He explicitly has to deal with suddenly having 'homosexual' "homosexual" feelings, and even fully accepts and chooses to act on them before the masquerade is revealed to him.
** * Ditto some productions of ''Theatre/AsYouLikeIt''. Though Orlando must at least have started to suspect Rosalind's identity.



* Also, some productions of ''Theatre/{{Cymbeline}}'' may emphasize this between the main character Imogen and Cadwell/Guiderius (and Polydore/Aviragus.)
** It's one of those situations where the princes have several lines expressing the noble lines of Imogen and how they truly love her. [[spoiler:She's their sister. So arguably, they could be stating that they feel oddly close to her/him like a brother]].
* ''Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical'' subverts this in the sequel when Dumbledore is only attracted to Umbridge because he thinks she's a man in drag.

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* Also, some productions of ''Theatre/{{Cymbeline}}'' may emphasize this between the main character Imogen and Cadwell/Guiderius (and Polydore/Aviragus.)
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Polydore/Aviragus). It's one of those situations where the princes have several lines expressing the noble lines of Imogen and how they truly love her. [[spoiler:She's their sister. So arguably, they could be stating that they feel oddly close to her/him like a brother]].
* ''Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical'' subverts this in the sequel when Dumbledore is only attracted to Umbridge because he thinks she's a man in drag.
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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'': Kanji Tatsumi feels this way towards [[spoiler:Naoto Shirogane]] upon meeting "him" for the first time, which of course only serves to make Kanji's already-present issues of gender confusion worse. [[spoiler:Kanji's sexuality remains ambiguous at best for the rest of the game, but it's clear he still has strong feelings for Naoto, especially after Naoto's true gender is revealed.]]
* ''VisualNovel/PrincessWaltz'': Even before Arata realizes Chris Northfield is pulling a SweetPollyOliver, he finds himself extremely attracted to "him", causing everyone around them to wonder if they are committing HoYay. It only gets worse when Chris admits to really being a girl, which takes what was already strong attraction and kicks it into overdrive. Considering the game is an H-Game, and Chris is remarkably underendowed for a girl (Saber from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' looks less manly than Chris, and she's arguably Saber's {{Expy}}), but Arata finds her incredibly hot anyway, which for this genre is an amusing but rather touching subversion.
** For the uninitiated, H-Game women usually have some variant of MsFanservice or large breasts as a rule, making the subversion more jarring.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'': ''VideoGame/Persona4'': Kanji Tatsumi feels this way towards [[spoiler:Naoto Shirogane]] upon meeting "him" for the first time, which of course only serves to make Kanji's already-present issues of gender confusion worse. [[spoiler:Kanji's sexuality remains ambiguous at best for the rest of the game, but it's clear he still has strong feelings for Naoto, especially after Naoto's true gender is revealed.]]
* ''VisualNovel/PrincessWaltz'': Even before Arata realizes Chris Northfield is pulling a SweetPollyOliver, he finds himself extremely attracted to "him", causing everyone around them to wonder if they are committing HoYay. It only gets worse when Chris admits to really being a girl, which takes what was already strong attraction and kicks it into overdrive. Considering the game is an H-Game, and Chris is remarkably underendowed for a girl (Saber from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' looks less manly than Chris, and she's arguably Saber's {{Expy}}), but Arata finds her incredibly hot anyway, which for this genre is an amusing but rather touching subversion.
** For the uninitiated, H-Game women usually have some variant of MsFanservice or large breasts as a rule, making the subversion more jarring.
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* ''VisualNovel/PrincessWaltz'': Even before Arata realizes Chris Northfield is pulling a SweetPollyOliver, he finds himself extremely attracted to "him", causing everyone around them to wonder if they are committing HoYay. It only gets worse when Chris admits to really being a girl, which takes what was already strong attraction and kicks it into overdrive. Considering the game is an H-Game, and Chris is remarkably underendowed for a girl (Saber from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' looks less manly than Chris, and she's arguably Saber's {{Expy}}), but Arata finds her incredibly hot anyway, which for this genre is an amusing but rather touching subversion. For the uninitiated, H-Game women usually have some variant of MsFanservice or large breasts as a rule, making the subversion more jarring.
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* An odd example in ''VideoGameConfessions''--[[WholesomeCrossdresser Zelda]] often goes around in her Sheik outfit, feeling that she has more freedom as both a man and a commoner. She's explaining all this to [[TheBartender Dominic]] when [[DepravedHomosexual Link]] shows up and starts hitting on her. Link explains that yeah, he's still dating Zelda, but he likes to "swing his sword both ways." Link assures "Sheik" that Zelda is cool with it. Oddly, "he" [[GroinAttack doesn't seem to believe that]].

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* An odd example in ''VideoGameConfessions''--[[WholesomeCrossdresser ''WebVideo/VideoGameConfessions''--[[WholesomeCrossdresser Zelda]] often goes around in her Sheik outfit, feeling that she has more freedom as both a man and a commoner. She's explaining all this to [[TheBartender Dominic]] when [[DepravedHomosexual Link]] shows up and starts hitting on her. Link explains that yeah, he's still dating Zelda, but he likes to "swing his sword both ways." Link assures "Sheik" that Zelda is cool with it. Oddly, "he" [[GroinAttack doesn't seem to believe that]].
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* Inverted in one of the ''JudgeDee'' stories by Robert van Gulik: a young woman came to the judge, asking for advice because she'd lately found herself strangely attracted to another girl living close to her. As it happened, Judge Dee already knew that "the other girl" was actually a young man who'd [[AmateurSleuth gone undercover]] to investigate the suspicious death of his sister -- and the young man had admitted to the judge that ''he'' was quite attracted to the girl who was now (needlessly) worrying that she might be a lesbian.

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* Inverted in one of the ''JudgeDee'' ''Literature/JudgeDee'' stories by Robert van Gulik: a young woman came to the judge, asking for advice because she'd lately found herself strangely attracted to another girl living close to her. As it happened, Judge Dee already knew that "the other girl" was actually a young man who'd [[AmateurSleuth gone undercover]] to investigate the suspicious death of his sister -- and the young man had admitted to the judge that ''he'' was quite attracted to the girl who was now (needlessly) worrying that she might be a lesbian.
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* The first episode of Brazilian miniseries ''Copas de Mel'' had Mel disguising as a man to travel with the Brazilian team for the 1958 FIFAWorldCup. She develops a crush for the wardrobe boy Jiló, and after Brazil wins:

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* The first episode of Brazilian miniseries ''Copas de Mel'' had Mel disguising as a man to travel with the Brazilian team for the 1958 FIFAWorldCup.UsefulNotes/FIFAWorldCup. She develops a crush for the wardrobe boy Jiló, and after Brazil wins:
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* It's a secret to everyone but her brother that Marcus, the {{player character}} of ''VideoGame/QueenAtArms'', is secretly a woman. She has multiple potential {{love interest}}s, some of whom are a little perplexed by their attraction to "him." [[spoiler:One of them, however, figures out early in their acquaintance that she's really female (he has magic to help him), and another one loses interest when he finds out that she's ''not'' a guy.]]

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* It's a secret to everyone but her brother that Marcus, the {{player character}} of ''VideoGame/QueenAtArms'', is secretly a woman. She has multiple potential {{love interest}}s, some of whom are a little perplexed by their attraction to "him." [[spoiler:One of them, however, figures out early in their acquaintance that she's really female (he has magic to help him), and another one subverts the trope because he loses interest when he finds out that she's ''not'' a guy.guy. He can be convinced to stay with Marcus, however, if Marcus prefers to identify as male.]]
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* ''AVeryPotterMusical'' subverts this in the sequel when Dumbledore is only attracted to Umbridge because he thinks she's a man in drag.

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* ''AVeryPotterMusical'' ''Theatre/AVeryPotterMusical'' subverts this in the sequel when Dumbledore is only attracted to Umbridge because he thinks she's a man in drag.
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