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23rd Aug '17 5:29:51 AM Camwood
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* One of the many white cards in ''TabletopGame/CardsAgainstHumanity'' reads "MechaHitler".

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* One of the many white cards in ''TabletopGame/CardsAgainstHumanity'' reads "MechaHitler"."[=MechaHitler=]".
23rd Aug '17 5:16:45 AM Camwood
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* One of the many white cards in ''TabletopGame/CardsAgainstHumanity'' reads "MechaHitler".
16th Jul '17 11:02:07 PM LTR
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** One area where German aeronautical development absolutely failed was in the area of strategic bombing. The Luftwaffe was so focused on producing effective fighters and tactical dive-bombers for ''Blitzkrieg'' style assaults that they totally neglected to develop a long-range bomber that could reach distant enemy cities and industrial centers should the war become protracted. Nazi doctrine of prioritizing offense meant that they would outright refuse to adopt any plane that was incapable of dive-bombing, arbitrarily limiting their bombers to a much smaller size than those of their enemies. The US and Great Britain had already developed reliable four-engined heavy bombers by the late 1930, like the B-17, B-24 and Lancaster, and would only improve on them as time went on. German efforts to build an equivalent aircraft, the He-177, not only commenced late in the war, but were further restricted by the requirement that it be capable of dive-bombing, which turned out to be practically unworkable. Oh, and their engines tended to catch fire. The absence of such was probably most deeply felt during the invasion of the USSR when the Soviets simply packed up their war production industry and moved it out of bombing range.
** Contrary to popular belief, the Germans actually ''lagged'' behind Allied armour developments for the first half of the war. In fact, most of their major successes (the conquest of Poland and much of Western Europe, Operation Barbarossa, and the intervention in North Africa) were achieved with tanks that were often of inferior quality (several were intended for ''training'') and outnumbered (by as much ''four to one''). The disparity in both quality and numbers was so great that much of the German armoured corps was comprised of captured tanks. The most famous German tanks (the Tiger I and Panther) were powerful, yet highly flawed designs. The Tiger I was technically obsolete when it was introduced, being essentially an enlargened version of the older and smaller Panzerkampfwagen III and IV tanks, and thus was extremely heavy (which resulted in high fuel consumption) and extremely complex to manufacture and maintain. Meanwhile, the Panther was marred by unreliability, and suffered from limitations that made it less than ideal as a main battle tank for the Wehrmacht. Moreover, they came into service at a time when the Wehrmacht had suffered serious setbacks and needed to produce as many machines as it could; putting new vehicles into production invariably led to delays, and some of them (like the Tiger) were simply unaffordable. It did not help that they were soon followed by even more massive and complicated war machines such as the Tiger II and Jagdtiger, notwithstanding the even more outrageous Maus (a super-tank the size of a small house), which made prototype stage. The even more massive Ratte (which would have weighed as much as a small warship) and Monster (essentially a railway gun on treads) never made it off the paper.

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** One area where German aeronautical development absolutely failed was in the area of strategic bombing. The Luftwaffe was so focused on producing effective fighters and tactical dive-bombers for ''Blitzkrieg'' style assaults that they totally neglected to develop a long-range bomber that could reach distant enemy cities and industrial centers should the war become protracted. Nazi doctrine of prioritizing offense also meant that they would outright refuse to adopt any plane that was incapable of dive-bombing, arbitrarily limiting their bombers to a much smaller size than those of their enemies. The US and Great Britain had already developed reliable four-engined heavy bombers by the late 1930, 1930's, like the B-17, B-24 and Lancaster, and would only improve on them as time went on. German efforts to build an equivalent aircraft, the He-177, not only commenced late in the war, but were further restricted by the requirement that it be capable of dive-bombing, which dive-bombing turned out to be practically unworkable. Oh, and their (It necessitated mounting the engines tended in coupled pairs, which made them prone to catch fire. catching fire, among other serious design flaws). The absence lack of such long-range bombers was probably most deeply acutely felt during the invasion of the USSR when USSR, the Soviets were able to simply packed pack up their war production industry and moved it out of bombing range.
** Contrary to popular belief, the Germans actually ''lagged'' behind Allied armour developments for the first half of the war. In fact, most of their major successes (the conquest of Poland and much of Western Europe, Operation Barbarossa, and the intervention in North Africa) were achieved with tanks that were often of inferior quality (several were intended for ''training'') and outnumbered (by as much ''four to one''). The disparity in both quality and numbers was so great that much of the German armoured corps was comprised of captured tanks. The most famous German tanks (the Tiger I and Panther) were powerful, yet highly flawed designs. The Tiger I was technically obsolete when it was introduced, being essentially an enlargened enlarged version of the older and smaller Panzerkampfwagen III and IV tanks, and thus was extremely heavy (which resulted in high fuel consumption) and extremely complex to manufacture and maintain. Meanwhile, the Panther was marred by unreliability, and suffered from limitations that made it less than ideal as a main battle tank for the Wehrmacht. Moreover, they came into service at a time when the Wehrmacht had suffered serious setbacks and needed to produce as many machines as it could; putting new vehicles into production invariably led to delays, and some of them (like the Tiger) were simply unaffordable. It did not help that they were soon followed by even more massive and complicated war machines such as the Tiger II and Jagdtiger, notwithstanding the even more outrageous Maus (a super-tank the size of a small house), which made prototype stage. The even more massive Ratte (which would have weighed as much as a small warship) and Monster (essentially a railway gun on treads) never made it off the paper.
16th Jul '17 5:35:09 PM nombretomado
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* Contested Ground Studios' ''TabletopGame/ColdCity'' is set in Berlin, 1950. Such superscience, mixed up with [[{{Ghostapo}} occult]] [[{{Magitek}} research]] created "twisted technology" which did things like [[ZombieApocalypse reanimating dead soldiers]] and calling forth horrors from other kinds of space, during WW2; these things have been lying all over Europe since the war, and it's now your job to clean them up. What happens to them afterward depends on the players' nationality; the Americans want it for themselves, as do the Soviets; the British want to analyse it in order to defend against it, if not use it themselves; the French want it all buried under a mountain somewhere and forgotten, and as little information gleaned from it as possible; and the Germans want either to bury it all along with the rest of their Nazi history and rebuild a new reputation, or are still Nazis and may want to squirrel some away for themselves, in order to try their luck again some other time. The difficult part is that a party may contain any mix of these.

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* Contested Ground Studios' ''TabletopGame/ColdCity'' is set in Berlin, 1950. Such superscience, mixed up with [[{{Ghostapo}} occult]] [[{{Magitek}} research]] created "twisted technology" which did things like [[ZombieApocalypse reanimating dead soldiers]] and calling forth horrors from other kinds of space, during WW2; [=WW2=]; these things have been lying all over Europe since the war, and it's now your job to clean them up. What happens to them afterward depends on the players' nationality; the Americans want it for themselves, as do the Soviets; the British want to analyse it in order to defend against it, if not use it themselves; the French want it all buried under a mountain somewhere and forgotten, and as little information gleaned from it as possible; and the Germans want either to bury it all along with the rest of their Nazi history and rebuild a new reputation, or are still Nazis and may want to squirrel some away for themselves, in order to try their luck again some other time. The difficult part is that a party may contain any mix of these.
16th Jul '17 11:09:17 AM CynicalBastardo
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* Parodied in ''Film/KungFury''. Hitler has a giant cyborg eagle and a minigun built into his podium.
1st Jul '17 11:24:48 AM Cieloazul
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Ironically, Germany's focus on "wonder weapons" late in the war stemmed from its precarious strategic position, which [[HopelessWar was so dire]] (and [[{{Karma}} self-inflicted]]) that only the notion of some crazy, weird, yet actually successful miracle of a weapon was seen as a viable hope for Nazi Germany's continued existence. And since the actual resources, industry, manpower, and time needed to actually produce any such wonder weapons in significant numbers was insufficient [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption long before the writing was clearly on the wall]] (and getting ever worse), the diversion of precious resources and industry to these projects just [[{{Irony}} hastened their defeat]]. In a further twist of irony, many scientists who were driven out of Europe by the Third Reich's discriminatory policies went to work on the Manhattan Project, which produced what is arguably [[UsefulNotes/NuclearWeapons the only true wonder weapon of the war]].

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Ironically, Germany's focus on "wonder weapons" late in the war stemmed from its precarious strategic position, which [[HopelessWar was so dire]] (and [[{{Karma}} self-inflicted]]) that only the notion of some [[CrazyEnoughToWork crazy, weird, yet actually successful miracle miracle]] of a weapon was seen as a viable hope for Nazi Germany's continued existence. And since the actual resources, industry, manpower, and time needed to actually produce any such wonder weapons in significant numbers was insufficient [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption long before the writing was clearly on the wall]] (and getting ever worse), the diversion of precious resources and industry to these projects just [[{{Irony}} hastened their defeat]]. In a further twist of irony, many scientists who were driven out of Europe by the Third Reich's discriminatory policies went to work on the Manhattan Project, which produced what is arguably [[UsefulNotes/NuclearWeapons the only true wonder weapon of the war]].
20th Jun '17 4:05:14 AM Piterpicher
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* {{GURPS}} has ''Weird War II'', part of their World War Two series, which includes both the Ghostapo and this, as well as SovietSuperscience, Allied superscience, serial killers, monsters, super-soldiers, aliens, alternate histories, conspiracy theories, and pretty much everything else.

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* {{GURPS}} TabletopGame/{{GURPS}} has ''Weird War II'', part of their World War Two series, which includes both the Ghostapo and this, as well as SovietSuperscience, Allied superscience, serial killers, monsters, super-soldiers, aliens, alternate histories, conspiracy theories, and pretty much everything else.
10th Jun '17 1:10:34 PM arbane
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** The Allies also had [[MadScientist Barnes]] [[GadgeteerGenius Wallis]], who designed the bouncing bomb, the Grand Slam and Tallboy bombs (which played merry hell with those conrete U-boat pens), and aircraft that could still fly [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Vickers_Wellington_Mark_X%2C_HE239_%27NA-Y%27%2C_of_No._428_Squadron_RCAF_%28April_1943%29.png despite this kind of punishment]].

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** The Allies also had [[MadScientist Barnes]] [[GadgeteerGenius Wallis]], who designed the bouncing bomb, the Grand Slam and Tallboy bombs (which played merry hell with those conrete concrete U-boat pens), and aircraft that could still fly [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Vickers_Wellington_Mark_X%2C_HE239_%27NA-Y%27%2C_of_No._428_Squadron_RCAF_%28April_1943%29.png despite this kind of punishment]].
4th Jun '17 1:00:00 PM Salmon
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** The Messerschmitt Me 262, which was barely edged out of being the first operational jet fighter. Thanks to its highly aerodynamic design and jet engine propulsion, it was one of the fastest fighters of its time, and also one of the most heavily armed as well. However, problems during development combined with Germany's declining strategic situation meant that its introduction was delayed until well after D-Day. Those that were produced were often grounded due to lack of fuel or spare parts. These shortages were readily apparent in the design of its Jumo 004 engines, which were prone to foreign object damage and flame-outs as a result of being constructed with poor-quality materials. It also came at a time when the Allies had established air superiority over much of Europe, when its lack of manoeuvrability was a liability against Allied fighters.

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** The Messerschmitt Me 262, which was barely edged out of being the first operational jet fighter.fighter by the Gloster Meteor. Thanks to its highly aerodynamic design and jet engine propulsion, it was one of the fastest fighters of its time, and also one of the most heavily armed as well. However, problems during development combined with Germany's declining strategic situation meant that its introduction was delayed until well after D-Day. Those that were produced were often grounded due to lack of fuel or spare parts. These shortages were readily apparent in the design of its Jumo 004 engines, which were prone to foreign object damage and flame-outs as a result of being constructed with poor-quality materials. It also came at a time when the Allies had established air superiority over much of Europe, when its lack of manoeuvrability was a liability against Allied fighters.
4th Jun '17 12:56:44 PM Salmon
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** The Messerschmitt Me 262, which was the first operational jet fighter. Thanks to its highly aerodynamic design and jet engine propulsion, it was one of the fastest fighters of its time, and also one of the most heavily armed as well. However, problems during development combined with Germany's declining strategic situation meant that its introduction was delayed until well after D-Day. Those that were produced were often grounded due to lack of fuel or spare parts. These shortages were readily apparent in the design of its Jumo 004 engines, which were prone to foreign object damage and flame-outs as a result of being constructed with poor-quality materials. It also came at a time when the Allies had established air superiority over much of Europe, when its lack of manoeuvrability was a liability against Allied fighters.

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** The Messerschmitt Me 262, which was barely edged out of being the first operational jet fighter. Thanks to its highly aerodynamic design and jet engine propulsion, it was one of the fastest fighters of its time, and also one of the most heavily armed as well. However, problems during development combined with Germany's declining strategic situation meant that its introduction was delayed until well after D-Day. Those that were produced were often grounded due to lack of fuel or spare parts. These shortages were readily apparent in the design of its Jumo 004 engines, which were prone to foreign object damage and flame-outs as a result of being constructed with poor-quality materials. It also came at a time when the Allies had established air superiority over much of Europe, when its lack of manoeuvrability was a liability against Allied fighters.
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