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17th Mar '18 9:08:40 AM Pichu-kun
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A subtrope of OlderIsBetter. See also {{Monster Lord}}s, who are often older members of their species, and contrast EvilMakesYouMonstrous (for the latter, they get eviler with age and thus get uglier and stronger). For the human equivalent, see the OldMaster and BadassGrandpa. See also GiganticAdultsTinyBabies, MonsterProgenitor and MotherOfAThousandYoung.

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A subtrope of OlderIsBetter. See also {{Monster Lord}}s, who are often older members of their species, and contrast EvilMakesYouMonstrous (for the latter, they get eviler with age and thus get uglier and stronger). For the human equivalent, see the OldMaster OldMaster, BadassGrandpa, and BadassGrandpa.SicklyChildGrewUpStrong. See also GiganticAdultsTinyBabies, MonsterProgenitor and MotherOfAThousandYoung.
9th Mar '18 12:51:14 PM StFan
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* The ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode ''Father's Day'' says that, temporally speaking, older is stronger. The episode's ClockRoaches are unable to devour a centuries old church, and when they get in thanks to a paradox they immediately are drawn to The Doctor due to being even older than the church.

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* The ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode ''Father's Day'' "Father's Day" says that, temporally speaking, older is stronger. The episode's ClockRoaches are unable to devour a centuries old centuries-old church, and when they get in thanks to a paradox they immediately are drawn to The Doctor due to being even older than the church.



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* ''TabletopGame/TheWorldOfDarkness''

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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Zevo3}}'', this is the reason the Zevo compound works better than it did when Stankfoot first created it. He even lampshaded it.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Zevo3}}'', ''WesternAnimation/Zevo3'', this is the reason the Zevo compound works better than it did when Stankfoot first created it. He even lampshaded it.



** The Alicorn Princesses seem to function under this rule. Twilight and Cadance are definitely a step above the average pony, but are still fairly young and aren't ''that'' much more powerful. Celestia and Luna, on the other hand, are each at ''least'' a thousand years old are so powerful that their primary responsibilities involve manually moving the Sun and Moon around.
** Very likely the case with dragons. Teenage dragons are only a bit bigger than ponies; adult dragons are huge monsters that are better left alone. Dragon Lord Torch, the biggest dragon of the land, is pretty much mountain-sized. A story sets a thousand years in the past (episode "Campfire Tales") show a dragon very similar to Torch, but smaller (the size of an adult dragon). If it's indeed Torch, it demonstrates dragons are not only very long-lived, but never stop growing.
* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': the oldest Earthbender seen (Bumi) is past 100, is built like the Hulk, and has mastered his art to the point where he only needs his ''chin''. Meanwhile, Toph Beifong is blind, invents metalbending at age 12, fights Bumi to a standstill (the match was interrupted because they were causing quakes that gave away their position)... and [[WesternAnimation/LegendOfKorra 70 years later]], no longer needs to move her arms to bend, curbstomps the Avatar, and is able to pull a NonchalantDodge against ''airbending''.

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** The Alicorn Princesses seem to function under this rule. Twilight and Cadance are definitely a step above the average pony, but are still fairly young and aren't ''that'' much more powerful. Celestia and Luna, on the other hand, are each at ''least'' a thousand years old are so powerful that their primary responsibilities involve manually magically moving the Sun and Moon around.
** Very likely the case with dragons. Teenage dragons are only a bit bigger than ponies; adult dragons are huge monsters that are better left alone. Dragon Lord Torch, the biggest dragon of the land, is pretty much mountain-sized. A story sets a thousand years in the past (episode "Campfire Tales") show a dragon very similar to Torch, but smaller (the size of an adult dragon). If it's it is indeed Torch, it demonstrates dragons are not only very long-lived, but never stop growing.
* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': the The oldest Earthbender seen (Bumi) is past 100, is built like the Hulk, and has mastered his art to the point where he only needs his ''chin''. Meanwhile, Toph Beifong is blind, invents metalbending at age 12, fights Bumi to a standstill (the match was interrupted because they were causing quakes that gave away their position)... and [[WesternAnimation/LegendOfKorra 70 years later]], no longer needs to move her arms to bend, curbstomps the Avatar, and is able to pull a NonchalantDodge against ''airbending''.
1st Feb '18 3:29:04 PM StFan
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* The Maestro, the future version of the ''Comicbook/IncredibleHulk'', who is stronger and smarter than present day Hulk (even when PDH is in smart mode).

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* The Maestro, the future version of the ''Comicbook/IncredibleHulk'', ''ComicBook/IncredibleHulk'', who is stronger and smarter than present day Hulk (even when PDH is in smart mode).



* Explicitly stated to be the case with Comicbook/TheInhumans, with regards to their powers. A Kang-made Franchise/SpiderMan robot once tried to disable Crystal and Franchise/TheAvengers by rapidly aging them, only to be HoistByHisOwnPetard when Crystal suddenly had double the ElementalPowers.
* A problem to overcome in one of the ''ComicBook/{{XXXenophile}}'' comics. A human girl and a troll girl fall in love, but the troll is very strong, roughly on par with a bear, and liable to hurt the human in throes of passion. They manage by using restraints... but then the troll girl reveals that with age she'll become ''much'' stronger.

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* Explicitly stated to be the case with Comicbook/TheInhumans, ComicBook/TheInhumans, with regards to their powers. A Kang-made Franchise/SpiderMan robot once tried to disable Crystal and Franchise/TheAvengers by rapidly aging them, only to be HoistByHisOwnPetard when Crystal suddenly had double the ElementalPowers.
* A problem to overcome in one of the ''ComicBook/{{XXXenophile}}'' ''ComicBook/XXXenophile'' comics. A human girl and a troll girl fall in love, but the troll is very strong, roughly on par with a bear, and liable to hurt the human in throes of passion. They manage by using restraints... but then the troll girl reveals that with age she'll become ''much'' stronger.



* Any Pokemon that's [[TheAgeless biologically immortal]] (mostly Rock and Steel types) in ''Fanfic/{{Traveler}}'' only becomes more powerful, and usually larger, as they age. The King Under the Mountain is an Onix that's over two hundred feet long and is the strongest of Bruno's pokemon, despite being a relatively new member. Even more so, the First's Rhydon is over a thousand years old, can manipulate rock on a level that would make [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Toph]] proud, and is stated by Lance to be the strongest non-legendary pokemon in the world.

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* Any Pokemon Pokémon that's [[TheAgeless biologically immortal]] (mostly Rock and Steel types) in ''Fanfic/{{Traveler}}'' only becomes more powerful, and usually larger, as they age. The King Under the Mountain is an Onix that's over two hundred feet long and is the strongest of Bruno's pokemon, Pokémon, despite being a relatively new member. Even more so, the First's Rhydon is over a thousand years old, can manipulate rock on a level that would make [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Toph]] proud, and is stated by Lance to be the strongest non-legendary pokemon Pokémon in the world.



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* ''Film/AnacondasTheHuntForTheBloodOrchid'' uses this to justify AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever: the titular snakes are stated to keep growing for their entire life, thus ones that consume [[MacGuffin blood orchids]]--flowers that can prevent aging--can grow to be much bigger than normal.

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* ''Film/AnacondasTheHuntForTheBloodOrchid'' uses this to justify AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever: the titular snakes are stated to keep growing for their entire life, thus ones that consume [[MacGuffin blood orchids]]--flowers orchids]] -- flowers that can prevent aging--can aging -- can grow to be much bigger than normal.



** Wizards also follow this rule - while part of it is that they learn how to more effectively use their power, even an increase of skill can't account for ALL of the tricks that more powerful wizards can pull off. Even WITHOUT the various external power boosts he gets, Harry has gained a noticeably greater degree of power over just the decade that the stories take place over; and significantly older wizards on the Council are capable of tricks Harry didn't even know were possible [[spoiler: like dropping satellites from space with pinpoint accuracy and turning into a half-dozen animals in a bout with an EldritchAbomination]]. This is aided by a wizard's slow aging and ability to eventually regenerate from even serious maiming without a build-up of scar tissue.

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** Wizards also follow this rule - -- while part of it is that they learn how to more effectively use their power, even an increase of skill can't account for ALL of the tricks that more powerful wizards can pull off. Even WITHOUT the various external power boosts he gets, Harry has gained a noticeably greater degree of power over just the decade that the stories take place over; and significantly older wizards on the Council are capable of tricks Harry didn't even know were possible [[spoiler: like dropping satellites from space with pinpoint accuracy and turning into a half-dozen animals in a bout with an EldritchAbomination]]. This is aided by a wizard's slow aging and ability to eventually regenerate from even serious maiming without a build-up of scar tissue.



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* In Japanese folk thought, foxes ({{Kitsune}}) grow a new tail for every hundred years they live, with a proportional growth in power, to a maximum of nine, at which point they're pretty much {{Physical God}}s.

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In Japanese folk thought, foxes ({{Kitsune}}) grow a new tail for every hundred years they live, with a proportional growth in power, to a maximum of nine, at which point they're pretty much {{Physical God}}s.



* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' contains plenty of examples, and though many are due to the "more experience" version many others fit this trope.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' contains plenty of examples, and though many are due to the "more experience" version many others fit this trope.



* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' Super Mutants grow stronger (but ''not'' smarter -- the opposite is implied to be the case) with age. Super Mutant Brutes are younger and weaker than Masters, who are weaker than Overlords, who are weaker than Behemoths, who are the oldest. Not that this particular trait is not (explicitly) shared with their west coast counterparts.
** In fact, in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'' the Super Mutants of Broken Hills are said to be slowly going weak and senile. This is probably due to being infected with a different strain of FEV (found in the Mariposa Military Base) than the mutants in the Capital Wasteland, though when the Courier encounters some of those same mutants in [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas the Mojave]], they seem to be as strong as ever.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'':
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Super Mutants grow stronger (but ''not'' smarter -- the opposite is implied to be the case) with age. Super Mutant Brutes are younger and weaker than Masters, who are weaker than Overlords, who are weaker than Behemoths, who are the oldest. Not that this particular trait is not (explicitly) shared with their west coast counterparts.
** In fact, in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'' ''VideoGame/Fallout2'' the Super Mutants of Broken Hills are said to be slowly going weak and senile. This is probably due to being infected with a different strain of FEV (found in the Mariposa Military Base) than the mutants in the Capital Wasteland, though when the Courier encounters some of those same mutants in [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas the Mojave]], they seem to be as strong as ever.



* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'' Super Mutants are similar to [[VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}} Vault 87]] Super Mutants, with Behemoths being the biggest and the dumbest, its mind buried under primitive rage. ''Far Harbor'' has Gulpers mutant salamanders that get bigger and hungrier as it gets older, the largest of which can swallow a person whole.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'' ** ''VideoGame/Fallout4'' Super Mutants are similar to [[VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}} [[VideoGame/Fallout3 Vault 87]] Super Mutants, with Behemoths being the biggest and the dumbest, its mind buried under primitive rage. ''Far Harbor'' has Gulpers mutant salamanders that get bigger and hungrier as it gets older, the largest of which can swallow a person whole.



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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''

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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}''

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* In ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'',

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* In ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'', ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'':



* The {{Franchise/Nasuverse}} runs on this trope, with the most powerful magical families being the oldest, the ancient vampires being the strongest, and one of the greatest Servants being [[Literature/TheEpicOfGilgamesh Gilgamesh]], the oldest hero of humanity.

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* The {{Franchise/Nasuverse}} Franchise/{{Nasuverse}} runs on this trope, with the most powerful magical families being the oldest, the ancient vampires being the strongest, and one of the greatest Servants being [[Literature/TheEpicOfGilgamesh Gilgamesh]], the oldest hero of humanity.



* In ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' Jägermonsters become bigger and less human-looking as they age. We get a better look at these changes [[spoiler: when Vole is artificially aged a few hundred years and he goes from looking like a big guy with white skin, black eyes and small fangs to being maybe half again the size he was before, with spines protruding from his now green skin, and having sprouted a tail.]] As a result, a threat that would take a huge platoon of regular Jaegermonsters to handle can be trounced with no losses by four of the centuries-old generals.

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* In ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' Jägermonsters become bigger and less human-looking as they age. We get a better look at these changes [[spoiler: when [[spoiler:when Vole is artificially aged a few hundred years and he goes from looking like a big guy with white skin, black eyes and small fangs to being maybe half again the size he was before, with spines protruding from his now green skin, and having sprouted a tail.]] As a result, a threat that would take a huge platoon of regular Jaegermonsters Jägermonsters to handle can be trounced with no losses by four of the centuries-old generals.



* In ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' the Alicorn Princesses seem to function under this rule. Twilight and Cadance are definitely a step above the average pony, but are still fairly young and aren't ''that'' much more powerful. Celestia and Luna, on the other hand, are each at ''least'' a thousand years old are so powerful that their primary responsibilities involve manually moving the Sun and Moon around.

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Alicorn Princesses seem to function under this rule. Twilight and Cadance are definitely a step above the average pony, but are still fairly young and aren't ''that'' much more powerful. Celestia and Luna, on the other hand, are each at ''least'' a thousand years old are so powerful that their primary responsibilities involve manually moving the Sun and Moon around.around.
** Very likely the case with dragons. Teenage dragons are only a bit bigger than ponies; adult dragons are huge monsters that are better left alone. Dragon Lord Torch, the biggest dragon of the land, is pretty much mountain-sized. A story sets a thousand years in the past (episode "Campfire Tales") show a dragon very similar to Torch, but smaller (the size of an adult dragon). If it's indeed Torch, it demonstrates dragons are not only very long-lived, but never stop growing.



24th Jan '18 1:12:34 PM Rytex
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* Likely inspired by the Tolkien example, dragons in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' never stop growing as long as they have freedom and food. Captive dragons reach an upper limit depending on the space constraints of their environment. It's unknown whether they ever die of old age or disease, but until they die, the older, the stronger.

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* Likely inspired by the Tolkien example, dragons in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' never stop growing as long as they have freedom and food. Captive dragons reach an upper limit depending on the space constraints of their environment. It's unknown whether they ever die of old age or disease, but until they die, the older, the stronger. Historical dragons such as Balerion the Black were ''massive'' because they lived for quite some time and were uninhibited during their lives, but future dragons were hindered by the Dragonpit in King's Landing until they died out altogether. In the present day, Daenerys' dragons are of differing sizes due to this as well. Drogon flew off into the wild and grew to be colossal in size, whereas Viserion and Rhaegal were kept in the basement of the Great Pyramid of Mereen, and are considerably smaller than their older brother.



* The dragons of George R. R. Martin's ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' universe have been stated to grow perpetually, based entirely on their roost. If a dragon lives inside of a structure, it will grow until it can fit snugly inside, and then stop. Historical dragons such as Balerion the Black were ''massive'' because they had no such structure inhibiting their growth, but future dragons were hindered by the Dragonpit in King's Landing. In the present day, Daenerys' dragons are of differing sizes due to this as well. Drogon flew off into the wild and grew to be colossal in size, whereas Viserion and Rhaegal were kept in the basement of the Great Pyramid of Mereen, and are considerably smaller than their older brother.
24th Jan '18 1:08:47 PM Rytex
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* The dragons of George R. R. Martin's ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' universe have been stated to grow perpetually, based entirely on their roost. If a dragon lives inside of a structure, it will grow until it can fit snugly inside, and then stop. Historical dragons such as Balerion the Black were ''massive'' because they had no such structure inhibiting their growth, but future dragons were hindered by the Dragonpit in King's Landing. In the present day, Daenerys' dragons are of differing sizes due to this as well. Drogon flew off into the wild and grew to be colossal in size, whereas Viserion and Rhaegal were kept in the basement of the Great Pyramid of Mereen, and are considerably smaller than their older brother.
2nd Jan '18 10:26:03 AM Godzillawolf
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* Appears to be the case with the Ultras from the ''Franchise/UltraSeries''. While some younger ones are prodigies, generally speaking the more ancient an Ultra the more powerful they are. The Father of Ultra and Ultraman Belial are both in the 150,000 year range, and so powerful the number of beings capable of fighting either one on one and at full strength can be counted on one hand. The two oldest Ultras (that were actually active their entire life time at least) are over 300,000 years old {{Physical God}}s.
15th Dec '17 10:54:21 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** Even the Capital Wasteland Mutants don't all follow the rule -- it is ''heavily'' implied that Fawkes, one of your companions, was one of the first East Coast Super Mutants, yet he's still a regular Super Mutant (albeit a ''supremely'' overpowered one if you've got Broken Steel installed.)

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** Even the Capital Wasteland Mutants don't all follow the rule -- it is ''heavily'' implied that Fawkes, one of your companions, was one of the first East Coast Super Mutants, yet he's still a regular Super Mutant (albeit a ''supremely'' overpowered one if you've got Broken Steel installed.)) This may be tied to the oddities of his transformation; he's one of the very few to fully hold on to his sanity and morality.
6th Dec '17 6:51:06 AM Ghilz
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* Within the realm of certain sports, this is true of athletes, particularly in fighting sports such as Mixed Martial Arts. An athlete at 20 years old has yet to completely fill out and will get stronger as he ages and does more weight training. Heavyweights are generally not thought to be in their prime until their 30s. Strength is also the last thing to start declining as fighters age.
* Stars as they age grow more luminous and larger, especially during their old ages, even if that is a facade hiding a core where hydrogen is running out or has already been exhausted, moment when (relatively speaking) a star has not much time remaining.
* Concrete gets harder as it ages. Larger concrete structures may even need over a century to completely dry and harden.
* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_root_bridges Living Root Bridges]] are made from the roots of trees, which get larger and stronger as they age.
5th Dec '17 11:40:23 PM MrInitialMan
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* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_root_bridges Living Root Bridges]] are made from the roots of trees, which get larger and stronger as they age.
6th Nov '17 9:39:24 PM TheSinful
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* Any Pokemon that's [[TheAgeless biologically immortal]] (mostly Rock and Steel types) in ''Fanfic/{{Traveler}}'' only becomes more powerful, and usually larger, as they age. The King Under the Mountain is an Onix that's over two hundred feet long and is the strongest of Bruno's pokemon, despite being a relatively new member. Even more so, the First's Rhydon is over a thousand years old, can manipulate rock on a level that would make [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Toph]] proud, and is stated by Lance to be the strongest non-legendary pokemon in the world.
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