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23rd Apr '17 10:24:06 AM nombretomado
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* Liir from ''SwordOfTheStars'' have this; the older they grow, the larger they get and the more powerful their psionic abilities become. The only thing limiting their size, and eventually causing their death, is the SquareCubeLaw. [[spoiler:Of course, some didn't like that last bit, preferring to enslave the younger ones to make them build spacesuits for them, so they could live in space and remove that last limit on their immortality. Very few remain of those who did this, but just one can wreck whole armies]].

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* Liir from ''SwordOfTheStars'' ''VideoGame/SwordOfTheStars'' have this; the older they grow, the larger they get and the more powerful their psionic abilities become. The only thing limiting their size, and eventually causing their death, is the SquareCubeLaw. [[spoiler:Of course, some didn't like that last bit, preferring to enslave the younger ones to make them build spacesuits for them, so they could live in space and remove that last limit on their immortality. Very few remain of those who did this, but just one can wreck whole armies]].
20th Apr '17 2:04:10 PM LordOfTheSword
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* Immortals from ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' continue to get older, smarter, stronger, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever more bored]] and [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity less sane]] until the point comes where they basically become [[PersonOfMassDestruction People Of Mass Destruction]]. To prevent this, they voluntarily undergo a kind of ritualistic death/rebirth cycle every couple of centuries to lose most of their power and memories so they can start over and keep things interesting. A significant portion of the
latter half (after the death of [[spoiler: Damien]]) of the story is driven by [[spoiler: [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Pandora Chaos Raven]]]], an immortal who refuses to let go of her accumulated power, and seems to be approaching EldritchAbomination territory.

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* Immortals from ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' continue to get older, smarter, stronger, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever more bored]] and [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity less sane]] until the point comes where they basically become [[PersonOfMassDestruction People Of Mass Destruction]]. To prevent this, they voluntarily undergo a kind of ritualistic death/rebirth cycle every couple of centuries to lose most of their power and memories so they can start over and keep things interesting. A significant portion of the
the latter half (after the death of [[spoiler: Damien]]) of the story is driven by [[spoiler: [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Pandora Chaos Raven]]]], an immortal who refuses to let go of her accumulated power, and seems to be approaching EldritchAbomination territory.
20th Apr '17 2:03:25 PM LordOfTheSword
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* Immortals from ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' continue to get older, smarter, stronger, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever more bored]] and [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity less sane]] until the point comes where they basically become [[PersonOfMassDestruction People Of Mass Destruction]]. To prevent this, they voluntarily undergo a kind of ritualistic death/rebirth cycle every couple of centuries to lose most of their power and memories so they can start over and keep things interesting. A significant portion of one arc is driven by [[spoiler: [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Pandora Chaos Raven]]]], an immortal who refuses to let go of her accumulated power, and seems to be approaching EldritchAbomination territory.

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* Immortals from ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' continue to get older, smarter, stronger, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever more bored]] and [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity less sane]] until the point comes where they basically become [[PersonOfMassDestruction People Of Mass Destruction]]. To prevent this, they voluntarily undergo a kind of ritualistic death/rebirth cycle every couple of centuries to lose most of their power and memories so they can start over and keep things interesting. A significant portion of one arc the
latter half (after the death of [[spoiler: Damien]]) of the story
is driven by [[spoiler: [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Pandora Chaos Raven]]]], an immortal who refuses to let go of her accumulated power, and seems to be approaching EldritchAbomination territory.
16th Apr '17 5:27:24 AM ScorpiusOB1
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* Stars as they age grow more luminous and larger, especially during their old ages, even if that is facade hiding a core where hydrogen is running out or has already been exhausted, moment when a star has not much time remaining.

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* Stars as they age grow more luminous and larger, especially during their old ages, even if that is a facade hiding a core where hydrogen is running out or has already been exhausted, moment when (relatively speaking) a star has not much time remaining.remaining.
16th Apr '17 5:23:14 AM ScorpiusOB1
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* Stars as they age grow more luminous and larger, especially during their old ages, even if that is facade hiding a core where hydrogen is running out or has already been exhausted, moment when a star has not much time remaining.
28th Mar '17 8:24:04 PM Perentie
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* Reptiles in general. Most animals reach a certain size and stop growing. So long as a reptile doesn't get killed or die by other means it just keeps getting bigger and bigger as it ages. Of course, they still die of old age at some point.

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* Reptiles in general. Most animals reach a certain size and stop growing. So long as a reptile doesn't get killed or die by other means it just keeps getting bigger and bigger as it ages. Of course, they still die of old age at some point.point, and in many species growth is so slow later in life that it can be almost imperceptible.
17th Mar '17 7:13:03 PM nombretomado
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* The {{Nasuverse}} runs on this trope, with the most powerful magical families being the oldest, the ancient vampires being the strongest, and one of the greatest Servants being [[Literature/TheEpicOfGilgamesh Gilgamesh]], the oldest hero of humanity.

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* The {{Nasuverse}} {{Franchise/Nasuverse}} runs on this trope, with the most powerful magical families being the oldest, the ancient vampires being the strongest, and one of the greatest Servants being [[Literature/TheEpicOfGilgamesh Gilgamesh]], the oldest hero of humanity.
22nd Jan '17 4:24:09 PM CaptainCrawdad
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** Let it be noted that "Ancient" is only the **third** strongest age category for true dragons.



** The RPG adaptation of Munchkin inverts this for the plutonium dragon, which becomes weaker every 24,100 years ([[GeniusBonus the half-life of Pu-239]]).



*** A younger vampire can cheat the system by committing Diablerie (consuming the blood and ''soul'' of another vampire) on an older vampire. However, Diablerie is forbidden, and committing it stains your soul in such a way that other vampires will easily notice it. Even worse, the souls of powerful vampires may remain conscious after being consumed and later devour the Diablerist's soul from the inside.



** Masquerade's successor game in the ''TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness'', ''TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem'', subverts this with its Blood Potency stat. Like Generation, higher ranks of Blood Potency allow a vampire to spend more Vitae and have higher stats, but can't regain Vitae from animals and eventually humans. Instead of being a simple "I'm stronger than you" score, high Blood Potency invokes a psychological ''need'' to enter torpor, during which the vampire's Blood Potency drops and he forgets his experiences (the so-called "[[TheFogOfAges Fog of Ages]]"). Ergo, no Kindred ''stays'' stronger with age, since they depower while in torpor and their memories become faded dreams. Methuselahs, however, do not suffer the Fog of Ages.
*** With the right Coils of the Dragon, it's possible to utterly avoid the increased blood thirst that comes with age. Meaning in a few centuries, we might have Blood Potency 10 blood gods running around that can still feed on humans rather then other vampires...

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** Masquerade's successor game in the ''TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness'', ''TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem'', subverts this with its Blood Potency stat. Like Generation, higher ranks of Blood Potency allow a vampire to spend more Vitae and have higher stats, but can't regain Vitae from animals and eventually humans. Instead of being a simple "I'm stronger than you" score, high Blood Potency invokes a psychological ''need'' to enter torpor, during which the vampire's Blood Potency drops and he forgets his experiences (the so-called "[[TheFogOfAges Fog of Ages]]"). Ergo, no Kindred ''stays'' stronger with age, since they depower while in torpor and their memories become faded dreams. Methuselahs, however, do not suffer the Fog of Ages.
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Ages. With the right Coils of the Dragon, it's possible to utterly avoid the increased blood thirst that comes with age. Meaning in a few centuries, we might have Blood Potency 10 blood gods running around that can still feed on humans rather then other vampires...



* In fantasy-steampunk RPG ''TabletopGame/WolsungSteamPulpFantasy'', trolls fall under this trope without exceptions. When they are about 50 years old, they start to burn out mentally, fall into fits of rage, and at some point they [[HulkingOut hulk out]]. Permanently. From this point, they become larger, more resilient and feral with age... and nobody ever checked just how old they can get. Usually, their family or the authorities will put them down shortly after the onset of this freakish senility.
** It's less pronounced with troll women, who don't lose so much of their brains - just their morals. They are more likely to serve you arsenic tea and cyanide cookies than to rip you limb from limb. At least in the first stages of senility. Then they get worse.
** This "old troll syndrome" is the reason why most well-mannered trolls are expected to commit suicide when they notice the first signs of old age, to prevent a scandal (Victorian morality in practice). Those who [[ICannotSelfTerminate are unable to perform the act]] usually depend on their next of kin to assist them once the transformation starts.
* The potential for power of ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' is tied directly to age, with {{cap}}s placed on their highest potential [[PowerLevel Essence]] based on how long they've lived (although there are a few magics that can break this). The highest levels of power are only available to Exalted who are more than a thousand years old.
** Due to the Great Curse, this also means that the ones with access to the high Essence charms are also the most likely to be utterly insane, driven mad by the Curse, and rather prone to even greater acts of madness while in Limit Break.

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* In fantasy-steampunk RPG ''TabletopGame/WolsungSteamPulpFantasy'', trolls fall under this trope without exceptions. When they are about 50 years old, they start to burn out mentally, fall into fits of rage, and at some point they [[HulkingOut hulk out]]. Permanently. From this point, they become larger, more resilient and feral with age... and nobody ever checked just how old they can get. Usually, their family or the authorities will put them down shortly after the onset of this freakish senility.
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senility. It's less pronounced with troll women, who don't lose so much of their brains - just their morals. They are more likely to serve you arsenic tea and cyanide cookies than to rip you limb from limb. At least in the first stages of senility. Then they get worse.
** This "old troll syndrome" is the reason why most well-mannered trolls are expected to commit suicide when they notice the first signs of old age, to prevent a scandal (Victorian morality in practice). Those who [[ICannotSelfTerminate are unable to perform the act]] usually depend on their next of kin to assist them once the transformation starts.
morals.
* The potential for power of ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' is tied directly to age, with {{cap}}s placed on their highest potential [[PowerLevel Essence]] based on how long they've lived (although there are a few magics that can break this). The highest levels of power are only available to Exalted who are more than a thousand years old.
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old. Due to the Great Curse, this also means that the ones with access to the high Essence charms are also the most likely to be utterly insane, driven mad by the Curse, and rather prone to even greater acts of madness while in Limit Break.



* The [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe asari]] in ''Franchise/MassEffect'' are said to show this, at least with regards to their biotics, which grow in power as they reach the matriarch part of their life cycle.
** Kaidan Alenko suggests that this is not restricted to asari, noting the increase in his own biotic abilities over the previous three years.
* A few of the legendary Dragon-type {{Pokemon}} count, but the ''very'' old [[GiantFlyer Rayquaza]] stands out the most. Although it had lost nearly all of its teeth through the decades, it still flies and battles as if it hasn't aged a bit. Not to mention its high attack stats.
** The Creation Trio have special mention here, since they literally created the ''universe'' itself and still live on to present day. Although, that's probably because two of them are literally [[PhysicalGod gods,]] while the third one is [[DracoLich undead.]]
* Dragons in ''Franchise/DragonAge'' only get more powerful with age. The Darkspawn also demonstrate the same is true of them, with a mini-boss Hurlock Vanguard in the Deep Roads called "Ancient Darkspawn."
** And then, in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII Legacy'', there's [[spoiler: Corypheus]], the most ancient Darkspawn (or at least, one out of half a dozen of them).

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* The [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe asari]] in ''Franchise/MassEffect'' are said to show this, at least with regards to their biotics, which grow in power as they reach the matriarch part of their life cycle.
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cycle. Kaidan Alenko suggests that this is not restricted to asari, noting the increase in his own biotic abilities over the previous three years.
* A few of the legendary Dragon-type {{Pokemon}} count, but the ''very'' old [[GiantFlyer Rayquaza]] stands out the most. Although it had lost nearly all of its teeth through the decades, it still flies and battles as if it hasn't aged a bit. Not to mention its high attack stats. \n** The Creation Trio have special mention here, since they literally created the ''universe'' itself and still live on to present day. Although, that's probably because two of them are literally [[PhysicalGod gods,]] while the third one is [[DracoLich undead.]]
* ''Franchise/DragonAge''
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Dragons in ''Franchise/DragonAge'' only get more powerful with age. The Darkspawn also demonstrate the same is true of them, with a mini-boss Hurlock Vanguard in the Deep Roads called "Ancient Darkspawn."
** And then, in In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII Legacy'', there's [[spoiler: Corypheus]], the most ancient Darkspawn (or at least, one out of half a dozen of them).



* While many ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' characters are powerful due to winning the SuperpowerLottery, many more obtained it seemingly by virtue of being around for so long. 500 year old Remilia is almost as powerful as her sister Flandre, despite the latter possessing the second biggest StoryBreakerPower in the setting. [[PhysicalGod Kanako and Suwako]] are more than 2300 years old and with power worthy of their station, despite the years with [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly barely any faith to sustain them]]. Yuuka is noted as one of the oldest living youkai, as well as one of the strongest, despite her explicit ability being [[GreenThumb making flowers bloom and face the sun]]. Eirin is a TimeAbyss and quite possibly only surpassed in power by [[RealityWarper Yukari]], with even [[GodModeSue the Watatsuki sisters]] respectful towards her. And Fujiwara no Mokou is a human who is now EX-Boss strength, due solely to the [[{{Immortality}} immense amount of time she has to practice]].
** Additionally, Ran Yakumo is a Kitsune and Chen is a Nekomata. Both are Youkai who were originally animals, but grew stronger with centuries of age.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}''
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While many ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' characters are powerful due to winning the SuperpowerLottery, many more obtained it seemingly by virtue of being around for so long. 500 year old Remilia is almost as powerful as her sister Flandre, despite the latter possessing the second biggest StoryBreakerPower in the setting. [[PhysicalGod Kanako and Suwako]] are more than 2300 years old and with power worthy of their station, despite the years with [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly barely any faith to sustain them]]. Yuuka is noted as one of the oldest living youkai, as well as one of the strongest, despite her explicit ability being [[GreenThumb making flowers bloom and face the sun]]. Eirin is a TimeAbyss and quite possibly only surpassed in power by [[RealityWarper Yukari]], with even [[GodModeSue the Watatsuki sisters]] respectful towards her. And Fujiwara no Mokou is a human who is now EX-Boss strength, due solely to the [[{{Immortality}} immense amount of time she has to practice]].
** Additionally, Ran Yakumo is a Kitsune and Chen is a Nekomata. Both are Youkai who were originally animals, but grew stronger with centuries of age.



* In ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'', [[CulturedBadass Sla]][[MemeticBadass yer]] is a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Nightwalker]] who is several hundred years old, the original founder of the assassin's guild, and one of the most powerful characters in the series. It's heavily implied that he's holding back on the whole cast; even if you utterly [[CurbStompBattle destroy]] him in a fight, he'll just lie on the floor with his head in his hand, casually chilling out.
** Also, [[ChefOfIron Jam]] [[GenkiGirl Kuradoberi]], who is told after fighting Slayer that given enough time, she'll end up surpassing him.

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* In ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'', [[CulturedBadass Sla]][[MemeticBadass yer]] ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'',
** Slayer
is a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Nightwalker]] who is several hundred years old, the original founder of the assassin's guild, and one of the most powerful characters in the series. It's heavily implied that he's holding back on the whole cast; even if you utterly [[CurbStompBattle destroy]] him in a fight, he'll just lie on the floor with his head in his hand, casually chilling out.
** Also, [[ChefOfIron Jam]] [[GenkiGirl Kuradoberi]], Jam Kuradoberi, who is told after fighting Slayer that given enough time, she'll end up surpassing him.
21st Jan '17 11:44:38 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* TruthInTelevision: [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18483_the-5-creepiest-serial-killers-who-were-animals_p2.html Gustave the Crocodile]] is over 66 years old, believed to be over twenty feet long and two thousand pounds heavy, and still killing people to this day.
** Forget people. Gustave has been known to attack and eat ''hippos''. Bear in mind that a full-grown hippopotamus is more than capable of not just killing an average-sized Nile crocodile, but ''biting it in half''. Gustave being able to hunt down what is considered to be ''the'' most dangerous animal in Africa says a '''lot''' about his strength.
** Gustave is known to have wandered inland and snatched people without apparently caring if someone fires a submachine gun at it. His hide could be so thick by this point, he might not even notice the bullets bouncing off his scales.[[note]]It's clear why crocodiles are thought to have inspired the dragons of myth.[[/note]]

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* TruthInTelevision: [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18483_the-5-creepiest-serial-killers-who-were-animals_p2.html Gustave the Crocodile]] is over 66 years old, believed to be over twenty feet long and two thousand pounds heavy, and still killing people to this day.
** Forget people. Gustave has been known to attack
and eat even ''hippos''. Bear in mind that a full-grown hippopotamus is more than capable of not just killing an average-sized Nile crocodile, but ''biting it in half''. Gustave being able to hunt down what is considered to be ''the'' most dangerous animal in Africa says a '''lot''' about his strength.
** Gustave is known to have wandered inland and snatched people without apparently caring if someone fires a submachine gun at it. His hide could be so thick by this point, he might not even notice the bullets bouncing off his scales.[[note]]It's clear why crocodiles are thought to have inspired the dragons of myth.[[/note]]



** There's serious scientific research to allow us to do the same. The only problem is it's a double-edged sword. Telomeres wearing down puts an upper limit on cell multiplication, but trying to take away cellular regulatory systems can result in immortal cells that can multiply indefinitely but also grow out of control, turning into cancer.


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* Within the realm of certain sports, this is true of athletes, particularly in fighting sports such as Mixed Martial Arts. An athlete at 20 years old has yet to completely fill out and will get stronger as he ages and does more weight training. Heavyweights are generally not thought to be in their prime until their 30s. Strength is also the last thing to start declining as fighters age.
20th Jan '17 8:15:36 PM NanoMoose
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* In [[Creator/RobinMcKinley Robin McKinley]]'s ''{{Literature/Sunshine}}'', this appears to be true of vampires, with some twists. Classically, in-setting, an old vampire is a master vampire, and [[EldritchAbomination very, very strong]], but also the older he gets, the ''less'' he can [[WeakenedByTheLight endure sunlight]], until even moonlight is crippling, which is why he surrounds himself with a gang of minion vampires. The main character, who develops a relatively FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire (he still kills people, but cleanly, and not her) learns eventually that while power does naturally increase with age, the weakness to light actually increases with ''[[GoodHurtsEvil evil]]'', and that while normally these increase in tandem, [[DarkIsNotEvil it's not mandatory]].
** Beauregard is stated to be in himself somewhat less powerful than his contemporary, Constantine, but while [[TheCorruption his body has broken down under his evil]], his mind is horribly powerful. Due to evil. Meanwhile, he has a lot of {{mooks}}, which tends to tip the scale.

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* In [[Creator/RobinMcKinley Robin McKinley]]'s ''{{Literature/Sunshine}}'', this appears to be true of vampires, with some twists. Classically, in-setting, an old vampire is a master vampire, and [[EldritchAbomination very, very strong]], but also strong]] -- their mental powers become vastly more potent, allowing them to accrue minion-vampires. However, the older he gets, longer they survive in that way, the ''less'' he can less capable they are of [[WeakenedByTheLight endure enduring sunlight]], until even moonlight is crippling, which is why he surrounds himself with a gang crippling and they can't even speak the word. Hence the minions, who join in the hopes of minion vampires. gaining power themselves. The main character, who develops character discovers through a relatively FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire (he still kills people, but cleanly, and not her) learns eventually that while power does naturally increase with age, it is possible to become equally powerful, maintain independence, and never create or join a gang... but the weakness to light actually increases with ''[[GoodHurtsEvil evil]]'', and gang-leaders don't want their minions finding that while normally these increase in tandem, [[DarkIsNotEvil it's out, and even if they did, they may not mandatory]].
** Beauregard is stated to
be interested in himself somewhat less powerful than his contemporary, Constantine, but while [[TheCorruption his body has broken down under his evil]], his mind is horribly powerful. Due to evil. Meanwhile, he has a lot of {{mooks}}, which tends to tip the scale.tightening their moral standards.



* [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Koloss]] in ''Franchise/{{Mistborn}}'' are like this; they never stop growing larger and stronger throughout their lives, and elder koloss (approx.. 20 years) are around fifteen feet tall and ''incredibly'' dangerous opponents. They don't get much older or bigger than that, though; if battle doesn't kill them, their massive size causes heart failure that ''will''.

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* [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Koloss]] in ''Franchise/{{Mistborn}}'' are like this; they never stop growing larger and stronger throughout their lives, and elder koloss (approx..(approx. 20 years) are around fifteen feet tall and ''incredibly'' dangerous opponents. They don't get much older or bigger than that, though; in a nod to TruthInTelevision, if battle doesn't kill them, their massive size causes heart failure that ''will''.failure.
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