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28th Sep '16 9:19:17 AM Miracle@StOlaf
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** As for Eric losing his cool and drawing a gun in the climax, remember that he just lost the chemistry competition due to the judges accepting that Billy was able to brew a ''boot''. And after all the hard work and self-sacrifice he's had to put in to become the top executive in his company, it's all on the line due to the most nepotistically-advantaged loser on the planet smugly telling him to ramble about "business ethics."

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** As for Eric losing his cool and drawing a gun in the climax, remember that he just lost the chemistry competition due to the judges accepting that Billy was able to brew freeze a ''boot''. And after all the hard work and self-sacrifice he's had to put in to become the top executive in his company, it's all on the line due to the most nepotistically-advantaged loser on the planet smugly telling him to ramble about "business ethics."
24th Sep '16 10:56:13 PM digiman619
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*** Also worth noting that Wicca is a real life religion. And while they do believe in magic as part of their faith, expecting them to be magic practitioners because of that is... potentially offensive.
24th Sep '16 9:00:17 PM digiman619
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* ''Film/TeachingMrsTingle'': the title character is a high school SadistTeacher who has it in for the lead character, who is just trying to become valedictorian. At the start of the film, Mrs. Tingle gives a C grade to a project she worked six months on, a historical recreation of the diary of a girl [[BurnTheWitch accused of being a witch]] during the time of the 1692 Salem Witch Trials. Except that the diary describes witch-burnings, whereas the accused witches at Salem were all ''hanged'', except for the one man who was crushed, meaning the teacher was well within her rights to mark the assignment down. Later, Mrs. Tingle tries to report the lead for cheating -- after she finds a copy of an upcoming test in her backpack. One needn't be a villain not to be convinced by the girl's claim that "Someone else put that there, I didn't want it!"

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* ''Film/TeachingMrsTingle'': the title character is a high school SadistTeacher who has it in for the lead character, who is just trying to become valedictorian. At the start of the film, Mrs. Tingle gives a C grade to a project she worked six months on, a historical recreation of the diary of a girl [[BurnTheWitch accused of being a witch]] during the time of the 1692 Salem Witch Trials. Except that the diary describes witch-burnings, whereas the accused witches at Salem were all ''hanged'', except for the one man who was crushed, crushed[[note]]Technically speaking, he was never tried as a witch, the crushing was because he refused to make a plea[[/note]], meaning the teacher was well within her rights to mark the assignment down. Later, Mrs. Tingle tries to report the lead for cheating -- after she finds a copy of an upcoming test in her backpack. One needn't be a villain not to be convinced by the girl's claim that "Someone else put that there, I didn't want it!"
24th Sep '16 10:43:09 AM NitaBeeta
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* In ''Film/OneHundredAndOneDalmatians'', the evil fashion exec Cruella Deville is dismissive of the idea that Anita, her employee, should leave her job in the event of marriage. This is meant to show Deville as callous and cynical, but her observation that marriage tends to deal a massive blow to a woman's career is unfortunately true -- or at least, was at the time period.

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* In ''Film/OneHundredAndOneDalmatians'', the evil fashion exec Cruella Deville is dismissive of the idea that Anita, her employee, should leave her job in the event of marriage. This is meant to show Deville as callous and cynical, but her observation that marriage tends to deal a massive blow to a woman's career is unfortunately true -- or at least, [[SocietyMarchesOn was at the time period.period]].
23rd Sep '16 8:01:31 AM Eievie
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** In "Rumours" Brittany breaks up with Artie because he says, in frustration, "Why are you so ''stupid?"'' The reason for his outburst? He'd just learned that Brittany had been cheating on him ''for months'' with Santana who'd convinced that it wasn't cheating "if the plumbing was different" - and when Artie pointed out that yes, actually, it ''was,'' Brittany refused to listen to him and kept defending Santana. Artie's meant to be seen as the only one in the wrong here, since Brittany is hurt by his words - "You're the only one that never called me stupid" - but, under the circumstances, Artie's angry, frustrated and upset reaction was perfectly justified. (Also, Santana calls Brittany stupid plenty of times, but ''she'' never gets called out on it.)

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** In "Rumours" Brittany breaks up with Artie because he says, in frustration, "Why are you so ''stupid?"'' The reason for his outburst? He'd just learned that Brittany had been cheating on him ''for months'' with Santana who'd convinced that it wasn't cheating "if the plumbing was different" - and different"--and when Artie pointed out that yes, actually, it ''was,'' Brittany refused to listen to him and kept defending Santana. Artie's meant to be seen as the only one in the wrong here, since Brittany is hurt by his words - "You're words--"You're the only one that never called me stupid" - but, stupid"--but, under the circumstances, Artie's angry, frustrated and upset reaction was perfectly justified. (Also, Santana calls Brittany stupid plenty of times, but ''she'' never gets called out on it.)



** Lisa again in "Hungry Are the Damned", part of the very first ''Treehouse of Horror'' Halloween special. Apparently, Kang and Kodos would have humans believe that [[GildedCage living in captivity on a spaceship with all your favorite foods to eat and free entertainment]] is preferable to living a free but boring life on Earth. Lisa disagrees, and the aliens punish her ingratitude by returning the Simpson family to Earth and telling them they will never be truly happy again. But even if Lisa was wrong about the aliens having secretly sinister motives - in this case, allegedly wanting to eat humans - she was right about the aliens' actions being unethical. Slavery done with the best of intentions and that involves the captives being pampered instead of enchained is still slavery, and particularly loathsome if the victims are of a different species who are [[CondescendingCompassion supposedly wretched and "deserve" to be taught enlightenment and joy]].

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** Lisa again in "Hungry Are the Damned", part of the very first ''Treehouse of Horror'' Halloween special. Apparently, Kang and Kodos would have humans believe that [[GildedCage living in captivity on a spaceship with all your favorite foods to eat and free entertainment]] is preferable to living a free but boring life on Earth. Lisa disagrees, and the aliens punish her ingratitude by returning the Simpson family to Earth and telling them they will never be truly happy again. But even if Lisa was wrong about the aliens having secretly sinister motives - in motive--in this case, allegedly wanting to eat humans - she humans--she was right about the aliens' actions being unethical. Slavery done with the best of intentions and that involves the captives being pampered instead of enchained is still slavery, and particularly loathsome if the victims are of a different species who are [[CondescendingCompassion supposedly wretched and "deserve" to be taught enlightenment and joy]].
18th Sep '16 1:01:17 PM mario0987
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** Henry develops a MagicIsEvil stance in the Season 5 finale which is portrayed as wrong. While his decision to destroy magic is extreme, this show has pointed out time and time again that using magic has its problems to the point of being ArcWords. Additionally, most of the villains on the show have magic and exposure to magic is often the reason many of them became villains in the first place.
11th Sep '16 1:07:21 PM jroggs
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** As for Eric losing his cool and drawing a gun in the climax, remember that he just lost the chemistry competition due to the judges accepting that Billy was able to brew a ''boot''. And after all the hard work and self-sacrifice he's had to put in to become the top executive in his company, it's all on the line due to the most nepotistically-advantaged loser on the planet smugly telling him to ramble about "business ethics."
8th Sep '16 7:07:19 PM GoblinCipher
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* ''Series/{{MASH}}'': In one episode, Frank is suspicious of locals burying an unknown object next to a road near the camp and orders it dug up. When it turns out to be a kimchi pot, he's practically called a racist idiot. Except in the wake of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, roadside bombs were the primary cause of coalition casualties plus the use of {{booby trap}}s in Korea and Vietnam, Frank is wholly justified in being suspicious of something buried beside a road.

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* ''Series/{{MASH}}'': In one episode, Frank is suspicious of locals burying an unknown object next to a road near the camp and orders it dug up. When it turns out to be a kimchi pot, he's practically called a racist idiot. Except in the wake of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, roadside bombs were the primary cause of coalition casualties plus the use of {{booby trap}}s in Korea and Vietnam, Frank is wholly justified in being suspicious of something buried beside a road. Especially since a large kimchi pot is ''a great place to hide a bomb''.
28th Aug '16 9:19:54 PM Surgery
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* A frequent problem in CowboyCop type movies, particularly ''Film/DirtyHarry'', where the wishy-washy liberal superiors chastise Harry for his flagrant abuse of the rights of the suspect and ignorance of police procedure. But the thing is, they are right, and Harry would be a terrifyingly dangerous person in real life. This whole issue was deliberately acknowledged in the earlier film, ''Film/{{Bullitt}}'', where the superior turns out to be completely right: it's not good to be a loose cannon. Its sequel ''Film/MagnumForce'' acknowledged this with the primary antagonists being a group of Cowboy Cops. It is instructive to note that despite all the other rules he breaks, Harry never actually killed anyone outside standard law enforcement rules of engagement.

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* A frequent problem in CowboyCop type movies, particularly ''Film/DirtyHarry'', where the wishy-washy liberal superiors chastise Harry for his flagrant abuse of the rights of the suspect and ignorance of police procedure. But the thing is, they are right, and Harry would be a terrifyingly dangerous person in real life. This whole issue was deliberately acknowledged in the earlier first film, ''Film/{{Bullitt}}'', ''Film/DirtyHarry'', where the superior turns out to be completely right: it's not good to be a loose cannon. Its sequel ''Film/MagnumForce'' acknowledged this with the primary antagonists being a group of Cowboy Cops. It is instructive to note that despite all the other rules he breaks, Harry never actually killed anyone outside standard law enforcement rules of engagement.
18th Aug '16 10:44:23 PM lorgskyegon
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** It is mentioned that Rosalyn is absolutely the ''only'' person who will babysit Calvin anymore. Calvin's terror tactics have obviously driven away others and Rosalyn is the only person besides his parents (and maybe Susie) willing to put up with him for a few hours. Among the lengthy list of things he has done to just Rosalyn: calling her a Nazi, running away, and calling the police on her for being a kidnapper. And that was just in one night. Odds are that he's been a terror to all the others as well and Rosalyn's style is the only thing that works. The trope would seem to apply to her as well.
** As for her overcharging? Basic economics teaches that if you are the sole source of a desired commodity, you can charge higher prices. It's the whole premise of the patent system. And her charges get higher because of Calvin's worsening behavior, just as any contractor would charge higher prices if the job proves more difficult.
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