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19th Sep '16 8:41:07 PM nombretomado
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The above can get complicated if one hero (like the {{Punisher}} above) routinely deals with his "RoguesGallery" by [[GottaKillThemAll killing them on sight]], while the other [[ThouShaltNotKill firmly refuses to kill]] or [[NonActionGuy doesn't even fight at all]] (like {{Archie|Comics}} above)[[note]]In [[ComicBook/ArchieMeetsThePunisher the crossover that provides the page image]], the Punisher makes a deal with the government that requires him to ''apprehend'' the suspect instead of killing him, and it's only because of Riverdale's innocence that he allows his quarry to live[[/note]]. If the relative pacifist has favor, the militant hero will be [[InverseLawOfUtilityAndLethality severely]] [[NonLethalWarfare nerfed]]; whereas if the militant one is shown right, it may risk invalidating the other's morals or making them seem irrelevant.

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The above can get complicated if one hero (like the {{Punisher}} above) routinely deals with his "RoguesGallery" by [[GottaKillThemAll killing them on sight]], while the other [[ThouShaltNotKill firmly refuses to kill]] or [[NonActionGuy doesn't even fight at all]] (like {{Archie|Comics}} Franchise/{{Archie|Comics}} above)[[note]]In [[ComicBook/ArchieMeetsThePunisher the crossover that provides the page image]], the Punisher makes a deal with the government that requires him to ''apprehend'' the suspect instead of killing him, and it's only because of Riverdale's innocence that he allows his quarry to live[[/note]]. If the relative pacifist has favor, the militant hero will be [[InverseLawOfUtilityAndLethality severely]] [[NonLethalWarfare nerfed]]; whereas if the militant one is shown right, it may risk invalidating the other's morals or making them seem irrelevant.
5th Sep '16 2:38:36 PM Dreadjaws
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** Likewise, ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' solves the problem in a better way. The non-superpowered characters get ahold of special pills that make their bodies though enough to go against the superpowered ones. Granted, this still doesn't explain some of the fights that occur ''before'' they come upon those pills.
14th Aug '16 9:07:57 PM merotoker
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* Whenever Franchise/{{Superman}} is involved in a crossover, he often has to be weakened or somehow disabled for the plot to work. The best ones simply [[PlotTailoredToTheParty gave the guest stars something to do in the story that Superman could not do]], but SturgeonsLaw dictates that this is not always done elegantly.

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* Whenever Franchise/{{Superman}} is involved in a crossover, he often has to be weakened or somehow disabled for the plot to work. The best ones simply [[PlotTailoredToTheParty gave the guest stars something to do in the story that Superman could not do]], but SturgeonsLaw dictates that this is not always done elegantly. Like [[http://www.misterkitty.org/extras/stupidcovers/stupidcomics41.html the time he met the Quik Bunny]] or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_%26_Bugs_Bunny the entire DC verse crossover with the]] WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes.



** In his second intercompany crossover with {{Spider-Man}}, Spidey saves the day with his Spider-Sense (while Supes is busy holding a massive explosive gizmo together with his bare hands).

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** In his second intercompany crossover with {{Spider-Man}}, Franchise/SpiderMan, Spidey saves the day with his Spider-Sense (while Supes is busy holding a massive explosive gizmo together with his bare hands).



* Some of Comicbook/ThePunisher's adventures in the mainstream MarvelUniverse feature him loading his gun with rubber bullets.
* A comic book actually featured a character from ''TheGuidingLight'' who had become a superhero, team up with {{Spider-Man}} and ''Franchise/IronMan'', inspired by an episode where she gained [[HowUnscientific superpowers from an accident involving Halloween decorations.]]

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* Some of Comicbook/ThePunisher's adventures in the mainstream MarvelUniverse Franchise/MarvelUniverse feature him loading his gun with rubber bullets.
* A comic book actually featured a character from ''TheGuidingLight'' who had become a superhero, team up with {{Spider-Man}} Franchise/SpiderMan and ''Franchise/IronMan'', inspired by an episode where she gained [[HowUnscientific superpowers from an accident involving Halloween decorations.]]



** This is actually very common in ''Manga/DragonBall'' crossover fics. While the ''Manga/DragonBall'' universe is not the most powerful by any means, many inexperienced fanfic writers would cross it over with fictional universes that were ''significantly'' weaker. This was most common in the nineties, as the really well-known anime (''Anime/RanmaOneHalf, Anime/SailorMoon, Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'') were leagues beneath the power levels in the ''Manga/DragonBall'' universe, while universes that could compete with or even ''dominate'' ''Manga/DragonBall'' (''Anime/TenchiMuyo, SaintSeiya, MarvelComics'') were unknown or underutilised.

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** This is actually very common in ''Manga/DragonBall'' crossover fics. While the ''Manga/DragonBall'' universe is not the most powerful by any means, many inexperienced fanfic writers would cross it over with fictional universes that were ''significantly'' weaker. This was most common in the nineties, as the really well-known anime (''Anime/RanmaOneHalf, Anime/SailorMoon, Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'') were leagues beneath the power levels in the ''Manga/DragonBall'' universe, while universes that could compete with or even ''dominate'' ''Manga/DragonBall'' (''Anime/TenchiMuyo, SaintSeiya, MarvelComics'') Manga/SaintSeiya, Creator/MarvelComics'') were unknown or underutilised.



* Occurs repeatedly in ''LightNovel/OreGaHeroineOTasukesugiteSekaiGaLittleMokushiroku''. After getting sucked into multiple stories at the same time (starting with SummonEverymanHero and SpaceOpera), the protagonist frequently abuses resources from one story to solve problems in another (such as shooting the DemonKing with a DisintegratorRay, and [[TeleportersAndTransporters teleporting]] the SwordInTheStone out of its resting place).

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* Occurs repeatedly in ''LightNovel/OreGaHeroineOTasukesugiteSekaiGaLittleMokushiroku''. After getting sucked into multiple stories at the same time (starting with SummonEverymanHero and SpaceOpera), the protagonist frequently abuses resources from one story to solve problems in another (such as shooting the DemonKing with a DisintegratorRay, and [[TeleportersAndTransporters teleporting]] {{teleport|ation}}ing the SwordInTheStone out of its resting place).



** Inverted years later in the ''Series/ResshaSentaiTokkyuger'' and ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'' crossover, where one of ''Gaim'''s {{Mook}} monsters grows to giant size (something they never did before or since) so the Tokkyugers can take it down with their giant robot.

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** Inverted years later in the ''Series/ResshaSentaiTokkyuger'' and ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'' crossover, where one of ''Gaim'''s {{Mook}} {{Mook|s}} monsters grows to giant size (something they never did before or since) so the Tokkyugers can take it down with their giant robot.



* ''VideoGame/MortalKombatVsDCUniverse'' solves this in one sense while being disadvantaged by it in another. The difference in powers between ''MortalKombat'' and Franchise/{{DCU}} characters is explained by mentioning that the universe merging directly affects the abilities of everyone involved, as well as spreading a HatePlague in order for LetsYouAndHimFight to ensue. However, DC's treatment of their intellectual properties meant that the ''Mortal Kombat'' side has to temporarily lose [[RatedMForMoney its extreme blood and gore]]... which, unfortunately for that series, is its entire selling point, period.

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* ''VideoGame/MortalKombatVsDCUniverse'' solves this in one sense while being disadvantaged by it in another. The difference in powers between ''MortalKombat'' ''Franchise/MortalKombat'' and Franchise/{{DCU}} [[Franchise/TheDCU DCU]] characters is explained by mentioning that the universe merging directly affects the abilities of everyone involved, as well as spreading a HatePlague in order for LetsYouAndHimFight to ensue. However, DC's treatment of their intellectual properties meant that the ''Mortal Kombat'' side has to temporarily lose [[RatedMForMoney its extreme blood and gore]]... which, unfortunately for that series, is its entire selling point, period.



* While Banpresto usually handles this trope quite well, ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' has had a few offenders in the past. What immediately comes to mind is ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment'', where the plot of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' is handled the exact same way despite the crossover drastically altering the circumstances. The most {{egregious}} case is [[spoiler:Mu La Flaga's HeroicSacrifice]], even though the various {{Super Robot}}s in the player's group could have ''easily'' [[spoiler:tanked the positron cannon]].

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* While Banpresto usually handles this trope quite well, ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' has had a few offenders in the past. What immediately comes to mind is ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment'', where the plot of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' is handled the exact same way despite the crossover drastically altering the circumstances. The most {{egregious}} JustForFun/{{egregious}} case is [[spoiler:Mu La Flaga's HeroicSacrifice]], even though the various {{Super Robot}}s Robot|Genre}}s in the player's group could have ''easily'' [[spoiler:tanked the positron cannon]].



** The show also has a crossover with ''ScoobyDoo'' that manages to fix the story breaker. How, you ask? [[spoiler:RealityWarper Bat-Mite gives Batman, Robin, and the villains the ability to fight (since this is based off of the 60s cartoon, he can't even throw a punch). Then he gives it to Shaggy and Scooby, too. Ass-kicking ensues.]]

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** The show also has a crossover with ''ScoobyDoo'' ''Franchise/ScoobyDoo'' that manages to fix the story breaker. How, you ask? [[spoiler:RealityWarper Bat-Mite gives Batman, Robin, and the villains the ability to fight (since this is based off of the 60s cartoon, he can't even throw a punch). Then he gives it to Shaggy and Scooby, too. Ass-kicking ensues.]]



-->Most sketches involve [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot "mashups"]], a collision of two pop-cultural items (one innocent, and the other "mature") degenerating into chaos, like [[SuperMarioBros Mario and Luigi]] travelling to [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity Vice City]], WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead joining the WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, the ScoobyDoo team encountering [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]], or ''TheSmurfs'' doing their version of the movie ''Film/{{Se7en}}'' (Yes, all of these, even the last one, are actual sketches from the show).

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-->Most sketches involve [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot "mashups"]], a collision of two pop-cultural items (one innocent, and the other "mature") degenerating into chaos, like [[SuperMarioBros [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario and Luigi]] travelling to [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity Vice City]], WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButtHead joining the WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, the ScoobyDoo team encountering [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]], or ''TheSmurfs'' doing their version of the movie ''Film/{{Se7en}}'' (Yes, all of these, even the last one, are actual sketches from the show).
31st Jul '16 5:27:44 PM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/MortalKombatVsDCUniverse'' solves this in one sense while being disadvantaged by it in another. The difference in powers between ''MortalKombat'' and {{DCU}} characters is explained by mentioning that the universe merging directly affects the abilities of everyone involved, as well as spreading a HatePlague in order for LetsYouAndHimFight to ensue. However, DC's treatment of their intellectual properties meant that the ''Mortal Kombat'' side has to temporarily lose [[RatedMForMoney its extreme blood and gore]]... which, unfortunately for that series, is its entire selling point, period.

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* ''VideoGame/MortalKombatVsDCUniverse'' solves this in one sense while being disadvantaged by it in another. The difference in powers between ''MortalKombat'' and {{DCU}} Franchise/{{DCU}} characters is explained by mentioning that the universe merging directly affects the abilities of everyone involved, as well as spreading a HatePlague in order for LetsYouAndHimFight to ensue. However, DC's treatment of their intellectual properties meant that the ''Mortal Kombat'' side has to temporarily lose [[RatedMForMoney its extreme blood and gore]]... which, unfortunately for that series, is its entire selling point, period.
20th Jul '16 8:37:52 PM KahunaLagoona
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*** Justified, in that the "Classic Era" was only around for a few years while the Modern Era had been around for the bulk of Sonic's history, it makes sense that Classic Sonic would unfortunately be outmaneuvered by Modern Sonic.
16th Jun '16 4:21:06 PM nombretomado
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** This is actually very common in ''Manga/DragonBall'' crossover fics. While the ''Manga/DragonBall'' universe is not the most powerful by any means, many inexperienced fanfic writers would cross it over with fictional universes that were ''significantly'' weaker. This was most common in the nineties, as the really well-known anime (''Anime/RanmaOneHalf, Anime/SailorMoon, Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'') were leagues beneath the power levels in the ''Manga/DragonBall'' universe, while universes that could compete with or even ''dominate'' ''Manga/DragonBall'' (''TenchiMuyo, SaintSeiya, MarvelComics'') were unknown or underutilised.

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** This is actually very common in ''Manga/DragonBall'' crossover fics. While the ''Manga/DragonBall'' universe is not the most powerful by any means, many inexperienced fanfic writers would cross it over with fictional universes that were ''significantly'' weaker. This was most common in the nineties, as the really well-known anime (''Anime/RanmaOneHalf, Anime/SailorMoon, Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'') were leagues beneath the power levels in the ''Manga/DragonBall'' universe, while universes that could compete with or even ''dominate'' ''Manga/DragonBall'' (''TenchiMuyo, (''Anime/TenchiMuyo, SaintSeiya, MarvelComics'') were unknown or underutilised.
20th May '16 6:20:50 AM erforce
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* ''WebVideo/PoohsAdventures'' runs on this trope. The main character, Franchise/WinnieThePooh, crosses over with people like Franchise/{{Batman}}, the ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}'', the ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'', and many others dipping into either a very high SuperWeight (even for a stuffed animal) or the [[DarkerAndEdgier darkest part of town]], or even both. Then there's the allies Pooh has, although not a lot of them could affect the plot, some ''do'' with just a few super powers.

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* ''WebVideo/PoohsAdventures'' runs on this trope. The main character, Franchise/WinnieThePooh, crosses over with people like Franchise/{{Batman}}, the ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}'', ''Franchise/{{Ghostbusters}}'', the ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'', and many others dipping into either a very high SuperWeight (even for a stuffed animal) or the [[DarkerAndEdgier darkest part of town]], or even both. Then there's the allies Pooh has, although not a lot of them could affect the plot, some ''do'' with just a few super powers.
30th Apr '16 9:14:02 PM dasuberkaiser
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* The plot of ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations'' involves time being rewritten and past and present to be in the same place resulting in two Sonic's, one modern, one classic. Problem is Sonic has gained a few powers and skills since the old days, resulting in modern Sonic easily outperforming his classic counterpart. The plot gets around this by having both Sonic's have their own stages and bosses. Still it can feel a little patronizing when Classic Sonic has bosses and stages that Modern Sonic could easily defeat, and Classic Sonic could not do anything if he went up against Modern Sonic's bosses.

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* The plot of ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations'' involves time being rewritten and past and present to be in the same place resulting in two Sonic's, Sonics, one modern, one classic. Problem is Sonic has gained a few powers and skills since the old days, resulting in modern Sonic easily outperforming his classic counterpart. The plot gets around this by having both Sonic's Sonics have their own stages and bosses. Still it can feel a little patronizing when Classic Sonic has bosses and stages that Modern Sonic could easily defeat, and Classic Sonic could not do anything if he went up against Modern Sonic's bosses.
13th Apr '16 11:56:11 AM Piando
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* Likewise, ''Eminem/Punisher''. [[http://comics.ign.com/articles/979/979917p1.html Yes]], {{Eminem}}.

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* Likewise, ''Eminem/Punisher''. [[http://comics.ign.com/articles/979/979917p1.html Yes]], {{Eminem}}.Music/{{Eminem}}.



* A comic book actually featured a character from ''TheGuidingLight'' who had become a superhero, team up with {{Spider-Man}} and ''IronMan'', inspired by an episode where she gained [[HowUnscientific superpowers from an accident involving Halloween decorations.]]

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* A comic book actually featured a character from ''TheGuidingLight'' who had become a superhero, team up with {{Spider-Man}} and ''IronMan'', ''Franchise/IronMan'', inspired by an episode where she gained [[HowUnscientific superpowers from an accident involving Halloween decorations.]]



* The animations ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FywMOuMqNuI The Dark Knight Meets Superman]]'' and ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeT1t0lQn5Q&feature=fvwrel The Dark Knight Meets Superman Part 2]]'' do this intentionally for parody. First {{Superman}} visits Gotham City during the events of ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. "Hey, bat-bro, I hope it's not a big deal, but while you were talking there, I went ahead and stopped crime. Like, all of it." Then this version of Batman stands in for Superman in Metropolis alongside the Franchise/{{Justice League|of America}}. It doesn't go that well.

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* The animations ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FywMOuMqNuI The Dark Knight Meets Superman]]'' and ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeT1t0lQn5Q&feature=fvwrel The Dark Knight Meets Superman Part 2]]'' do this intentionally for parody. First {{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} visits Gotham City during the events of ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. "Hey, bat-bro, I hope it's not a big deal, but while you were talking there, I went ahead and stopped crime. Like, all of it." Then this version of Batman stands in for Superman in Metropolis alongside the Franchise/{{Justice League|of America}}. It doesn't go that well.
9th Mar '16 10:20:53 AM Hossmeister
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-->Most sketches involve [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot "mashups"]], a collision of two pop-cultural items (one innocent, and the other "mature") degenerating into chaos, like [[SuperMarioBros Mario and Luigi]] travelling to [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity Vice City]], BeavisAndButthead joining the WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, the ScoobyDoo team encountering [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]], or ''TheSmurfs'' doing their version of the movie ''Film/{{Se7en}}'' (Yes, all of these, even the last one, are actual sketches from the show).

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-->Most sketches involve [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot "mashups"]], a collision of two pop-cultural items (one innocent, and the other "mature") degenerating into chaos, like [[SuperMarioBros Mario and Luigi]] travelling to [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity Vice City]], BeavisAndButthead WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead joining the WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, the ScoobyDoo team encountering [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]], or ''TheSmurfs'' doing their version of the movie ''Film/{{Se7en}}'' (Yes, all of these, even the last one, are actual sketches from the show).
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