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19th Apr '18 7:27:32 AM Malady
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The above can get complicated if one hero (like the {{Punisher}} above) routinely deals with his "RoguesGallery" by [[GottaKillThemAll killing them on sight]], while the other [[ThouShaltNotKill firmly refuses to kill]] or [[NonActionGuy doesn't even fight at all]] (like Franchise/{{Archie|Comics}} above)[[note]]In [[ComicBook/ArchieMeetsThePunisher the crossover that provides the page image]], the Punisher makes a deal with the government that requires him to ''apprehend'' the suspect instead of killing him, and it's only because of Riverdale's innocence that he allows his quarry to live[[/note]]. If the relative pacifist has favor, the militant hero will be [[InverseLawOfUtilityAndLethality severely]] [[NonLethalWarfare nerfed]]; whereas if the militant one is shown right, it may risk invalidating the other's morals or making them seem irrelevant.

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The above can get complicated if one hero (like the {{Punisher}} ComicBook/{{Punisher}} above) routinely deals with his "RoguesGallery" by [[GottaKillThemAll killing them on sight]], while the other [[ThouShaltNotKill firmly refuses to kill]] or [[NonActionGuy doesn't even fight at all]] (like Franchise/{{Archie|Comics}} above)[[note]]In [[ComicBook/ArchieMeetsThePunisher the crossover that provides the page image]], the Punisher makes a deal with the government that requires him to ''apprehend'' the suspect instead of killing him, and it's only because of Riverdale's innocence that he allows his quarry to live[[/note]]. If the relative pacifist has favor, the militant hero will be [[InverseLawOfUtilityAndLethality severely]] [[NonLethalWarfare nerfed]]; whereas if the militant one is shown right, it may risk invalidating the other's morals or making them seem irrelevant.
14th Apr '18 6:53:01 PM ElSquibbonator
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* It's also very hard for ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' to have a genuine crossover with anything. It is arguably the most realistic animated show ever made and the inclusion of goofy looking cartoon characters would stick out like a sore thumb. The characters appeared for mere seconds in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''. Even WordOfGod implied this was just a gag and there's no way to have a genuine crossover with the show.

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* It's also very hard for ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' to have a genuine crossover with anything.anything (except perhaps the other works of Creator/MikeJudge). It is arguably the most realistic animated show ever made and the inclusion of goofy looking cartoon characters would stick out like a sore thumb. The characters appeared for mere seconds in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''. Even WordOfGod implied this was just a gag and there's no way to have a genuine crossover with the show.
29th Mar '18 9:53:56 PM nombretomado
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* ''FanFic/ADarkKnightOverSinCity'' has a mild example. Franchise/{{Batman}} and his rogues operate on a slightly different level than the ''SinCity'' characters. The [[AntiHero anti-heroes]] and villains in Sin City still serve important roles in the plot but when it comes to, say, explaining Scarecrow's weapons or Joker's toxin, they resort to BuffySpeak.

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* ''FanFic/ADarkKnightOverSinCity'' has a mild example. Franchise/{{Batman}} and his rogues operate on a slightly different level than the ''SinCity'' ''ComicBook/SinCity'' characters. The [[AntiHero anti-heroes]] and villains in Sin City still serve important roles in the plot but when it comes to, say, explaining Scarecrow's weapons or Joker's toxin, they resort to BuffySpeak.
12th Mar '18 11:07:48 PM LinTaylor
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* The ''Series/SamuraiSentaiShinkenger'' story arc of ''Series/KamenRiderDecade''. Since Franchise/{{Kamen Rider}}s do not deal with giant monsters on a regular basis whereas ''Franchise/SuperSentai'' does and the crossover occurs in a ''Kamen Rider'' show, the arc was written to feature an original MonsterOfTheWeek who became an anomaly of sorts thanks to the intrusion of ''Decade''[='=]s cast and thus could not [[MakeMyMonsterGrow grow]] unlike his brethren.
* The ''Series/ResshaSentaiToQger'' and ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'' crossover deals with the issue the opposite way as ''Shinkenger/Decade'', as one of ''Gaim'''s monsters grows to giant size (something they never did before or since) so the [=ToQgers=] can take it down with their giant robot.

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* The ''Series/SamuraiSentaiShinkenger'' story arc of ''Series/KamenRiderDecade''. Since Franchise/{{Kamen Rider}}s do not deal with giant monsters on a regular basis whereas ''Franchise/SuperSentai'' does This issue comes up fairly often in crossovers between Franchise/SuperSentai and the crossover occurs in a ''Kamen Rider'' show, the arc was written to feature an original MonsterOfTheWeek who became an anomaly of sorts thanks to the intrusion of ''Decade''[='=]s cast and thus could not Franchise/KamenRider, since Sentai teams fight [[MakeMyMonsterGrow grow]] unlike his brethren.
* The ''Series/ResshaSentaiToQger'' and ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'' crossover deals
giant monsters]] every episode with their HumongousMecha while Riders usually only fight human-sized foes[[note]]The few Riders that do deal with bigger enemies, like [[Series/KamenRiderDenO Den-O]] and [[Series/KamenRiderKiva Kiva]], use special vehicles that don't quite qualify as mecha[[/note]].
** When [[Series/KamenRiderDecade Decade]] crossed into
the issue World of [[Series/SamuraiSentaiShinkenger Shinkenger]], the opposite way as ''Shinkenger/Decade'', as MonsterOfTheWeek became an anomaly by stealing Diend's TransformationTrinket, making him more powerful but losing the ability to grow.
** In ''Film/KamenRiderXSuperSentaiChouSuperHeroTaisen'', [[Series/KamenRiderExAid Ex-Aid]] gets a PowerUp that makes him and his MiniMecha grow to gigantic size so he can help the [[Series/UchuSentaiKyuranger Kyurangers]] in battle.
** [[Series/KamenRiderGaim Gaim]] and [[Series/ResshaSentaiToQger ToQger]] did the opposite, having
one of ''Gaim'''s monsters grows to giant size (something they never did before or since) {{Mooks}} grow so the [=ToQgers=] can take could defeat it down with their giant robot.robot.
** Other times, the Rider gets to jump into the cockpit of the Sentai team's mecha and help out. In ''[[Film/KamenRiderXSuperSentaiSuperHeroTaisen Super Hero Taisen]]'', [[Series/TokumeiSentaiGobusters Yellow Buster]] gets injured and [[Series/KamenRiderFourze Fourze]] steps in to replace her, bringing his Astroswitches along. In ''[[Film/KamenRiderXSuperSentaiXSpaceSheriffSuperHeroTaisenZ Super Hero Taisen Z]]'', [[Series/KamenRiderWizard Wizard]]'s BondCreature gets enlarged and combines with the [[Series/ZyudenSentaiKyoryuger Kyoryugers]]' mecha. In ''[[Film/SuperHeroTaisenGPKamenRider3 Super Hero Taisen GP]]'', [[Series/KamenRiderDrive Drive]]'s CoolCar gets turned into a mecha and combines with the [[Series/ShurikenSentaiNinninger Ninningers]]' robot for a one-time SuperMode.
7th Mar '18 12:54:19 PM bitemytail
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*** Justified, in that the "Classic Era" was only around for a few years while the Modern Era had been around for the bulk of Sonic's history, it makes sense that Classic Sonic would unfortunately be outmaneuvered by Modern Sonic.
4th Mar '18 2:06:51 AM Jake
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For a variation of the same basic challenge to writing a compelling narrative that doesn't necessarily involve a crossover, see OutOfContextProblem.

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For a variation of the same basic challenge to writing a compelling narrative that doesn't necessarily involve a crossover, see OutOfContextProblem.OutsideContextProblem.
4th Mar '18 2:06:31 AM Jake
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For a variation of the same basic challenge to writring a compelling narrative that doesn't necessarily involve a crossover, see OutOfContextVillain.

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For a variation of the same basic challenge to writring writing a compelling narrative that doesn't necessarily involve a crossover, see OutOfContextVillain.OutOfContextProblem.
4th Mar '18 2:05:56 AM Jake
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For a variation of the same basic challenge to writring a compelling narrative that doesn't necessarily involve a crossover, see OutOfContextVillain.



* Some of Comicbook/ThePunisher's adventures in the mainstream Franchise/MarvelUniverse feature him loading his gun with rubber bullets.

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* Some of Comicbook/ThePunisher's adventures in the mainstream Franchise/MarvelUniverse feature him loading his gun with rubber bullets.bullets out of respect for his temporary partner's sensibilities. Others take the conflict between his deadly force policy and theirs and make a plot point of it, such as the TV adaptation of ''Series/{{Daredevil}}'' which made him an outright antagonist, albeit a [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-meaning]] one.
3rd Mar '18 6:33:29 PM Darth_Marth
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* ''Film/JusticeLeague'': The movie keeps finding reasons not to have Superman around -First he's dead, then he's disoriented from being resurrected, then he's just goofing off with Lois and Martha. As soon as he ''does'' join the battle, though, the reasoning immediately becomes clear -[[BigBad Steppenwolf]] is no match for Superman. Despite being able to fight off every other member of the league simultaneously.
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20th Jan '18 5:19:39 PM Godzillawolf
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* In ''Fanfic/TheBridge'', despite there being a large difference in power between the strongest kaiju and the strongest Equestrians, measures were taken to avoid this. The Equestrians are still presented as very competent and having unique skill sets that complement the heroic kaiju's. And the situation the core group of kaiju are in require the Equestrians to get back to full strength.

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* In ''Fanfic/TheBridge'', despite there being a large difference in power between the strongest kaiju and the strongest Equestrians, measures were taken to avoid this. The Equestrians are still presented as very competent and having unique skill sets that complement the heroic kaiju's. And the situation the core group of kaiju are in require the Equestrians to get back to full strength. This was actively {{Defied}} by the creator, as part of the inspiration for the fic was to do something different than a lot of other Godzilla crossovers that consisted of 'drop Godzilla into the other series and let him kill everything'.
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