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25th Apr '16 8:40:03 PM DyingWillKirby
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* ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'': Nick and Judy find a train car full of vital evidence, which they need to transport to the police. Nick suggests stuffing a handful of critical items into a case and leaving before the bad guys realize that they're there. This, of course, isn't good enough for Judy, who wants ''all'' of the evidence delivered to the police. So she hijacks the train car. [[spoiler:And crashes it, [[AccidentallyBrokeTheMacGuffin destroying all of the evidence]]. Fortunately for her, Nick still had that briefcase on him.]]
25th Apr '16 11:31:21 AM Anddrix
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* In ''Film/{{Cinderella 2015}}'', Ella is at one point asked why she doesn't just leave the Tremaines and move away from a previous employee she meets up with. Ella states that she can't because she cares for the house her family has owned for 200 years and doesn't want to see them practically destroy it.

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* In ''Film/{{Cinderella 2015}}'', Ella is at one point asked why she doesn't just leave the Tremaines and move away from a previous employee away, she meets up with. Ella states that she can't because she cares for the house her family has owned for 200 years and doesn't want to see them practically destroy it.
23rd Apr '16 8:46:07 PM aye_amber
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** In addition to said page quote, a similar moment happens in the Back to Earth special. Taking a cue from ''BladeRunner'', Rimmer obtains the phone number of somebody they're looking for using an extremely [[OverlyLongGag long-winded]] and complicated form of [[EnhanceButton Zoom and Enhance]] on a photograph, by bouncing off the reflections of various objects in the picture (and some that aren't) until they get the man's number on the back of his business card by seeing a reverse angle of the original photo. After the whole charade, Kryten bluntly asks:

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** In addition to said page quote, a similar moment happens in the Back to Earth special. Taking a cue from ''BladeRunner'', ''Film/BladeRunner,'' Rimmer obtains the phone number of somebody they're looking for using an extremely [[OverlyLongGag long-winded]] and complicated form of [[EnhanceButton Zoom and Enhance]] on a photograph, by bouncing off the reflections of various objects in the picture (and some that aren't) until they get the man's number on the back of his business card by seeing a reverse angle of the original photo. After the whole charade, Kryten bluntly asks:
8th Apr '16 11:21:03 AM MikeW
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* Pretty much happens in every episode of ''Series/{{Eureka}}''. The super-scientists will cause a problem and go through various complex methods to try and solve it. It's Carter (the one-non genius in the town) who comes up with the solution that's so simple that it never occurs to the geniuses and saves the day.
6th Apr '16 10:39:46 AM Morgenthaler
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* The exact same thing happens to Creator/BruceWillis again in the ''SinCity'' movie, as an ActorAllusion.

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* The exact same thing happens to Creator/BruceWillis again in the ''SinCity'' ''Film/SinCity'' movie, as an ActorAllusion.
14th Mar '16 5:08:39 PM soothsayer
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** This is actually the cause of the overarching MythArc [[spoiler:when Stan tried to burn the journal Ford had given to him rather than go through a DangerousDeviceDesposalbeDebacle. However, Ford didn't want his research destroyed and flipped out, resulting in a skirmish that got Ford sucked into his portal]].

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** This is actually the cause of the overarching MythArc [[spoiler:when Stan tried to burn the journal Ford had given to him rather than go through a DangerousDeviceDesposalbeDebacle.DangerousDeviceDisposalDebacle. However, Ford didn't want his research destroyed and flipped out, resulting in a skirmish that got Ford sucked into his portal]].
7th Mar '16 2:24:47 PM ReaderAt2046
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* The Stairs Coup in FanFic/RainbowDoubleDashsLunaverse. Quick Fix, Luna's majordomo, felt that Luna needed some stairs leading up to her chambers, in case the Night Court needed to contact her in an emergency. So in order to prove his point, he staged ''a fake coup'', complete with sending orders to Equestria's armies to muster on the borders of half a dozen neighboring nations. Though this does convince Luna to install some stairs, she does not fall to point out that Quick Fix ''could have just talked to her about it.''



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20th Feb '16 5:59:14 PM merotoker
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* In ''Anime/CrossAnge'', when Ange, Tusk, and Vivian meet up with the survivors of Arzenal inside the Aurora, Ange proposes a simple solution so that Libertus will succeed: "Why not just [[spoiler: join with the [=DRAGONs=]? They're humans who can be reasoned with unlike [[FantasticRacism our humans here.]]]] Everyone does agree, [[GeneralRipper except for Jill]].

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* In ''Anime/CrossAnge'', when Ange, Tusk, and Vivian meet up with the survivors of Arzenal inside the Aurora, Ange proposes a simple solution so that Libertus will succeed: "Why not just [[spoiler: join with the [=DRAGONs=]? They're humans who can be reasoned with unlike [[FantasticRacism our humans here.]]]] here]]]]. Everyone does agree, [[GeneralRipper except for Jill]].



* There were plans for the ''ComicBook/XMen'' crossover ''Fatal Attractions'' to include a major battle between Comicbook/{{Wolverine}} and ComicBook/{{Magneto}}. Creator/PeterDavid jokingly commented, "Adamantium's metal, right? If I were Magneto, I'd just rip Wolverine's skeleton out and be done with him" - which the writers and editors promptly decided to have him do. David later said that offhand comment was the biggest influence he'd ever had on the X-Men.

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* There were plans for the ''ComicBook/XMen'' crossover ''Fatal Attractions'' to include a major battle between Comicbook/{{Wolverine}} and ComicBook/{{Magneto}}.SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}}. Creator/PeterDavid jokingly commented, "Adamantium's metal, right? If I were Magneto, I'd just rip Wolverine's skeleton out and be done with him" - which the writers and editors promptly decided to have him do. David later said that offhand comment was the biggest influence he'd ever had on the X-Men.



*** In all fairness, that potential failure is the result of the unexpected double whammy of him discovering [[spoiler:1 Mercedes still being in love with him and never breaking her promise. 2 Albert was actually his son, and that Mercedes only married Fernand because of how unacceptable it was to be an unmarried mother at that time.]] Two things that were completely unimaginable and entirely unforeseen after everything Dantes had gone through/learned at that point (even by the audience).

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*** In all fairness, that potential failure is the result of the unexpected double whammy of him discovering [[spoiler:1 Mercedes still being in love with him and never breaking her promise. 2 Albert was actually his son, and that Mercedes only married Fernand because of how unacceptable it was to be an unmarried mother at that time.]] time]]. Two things that were completely unimaginable and entirely unforeseen after everything Dantes had gone through/learned at that point (even by the audience).



* The original ''Film/TotalRecall1990'' has this happening twice, first one in a non-lethal way. While Quaid given the "virtual trip to Mars", the owner of the clinic leaves the room to get new clients. During the hunt for Quaid, TheDragon truly attempts several times to kill him, but towards the end is stopped by the BigBad, who justifies it by wanting to get his friend back. He then has Quaid and his {{Love Interest|s}} put for mindwashing ''and leaves the room, with the (apparently, until then) GenreSavvy Dragon''. When they escape, the second in command asks again to kill Quaid, to which a reluctant boss agrees. He reacts with, "It's about goddamn time!"

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* The original ''Film/TotalRecall1990'' has this happening twice, first one in a non-lethal way. While Quaid given the "virtual trip to Mars", the owner of the clinic leaves the room to get new clients. During the hunt for Quaid, TheDragon truly attempts several times to kill him, but towards the end is stopped by the BigBad, who justifies it by wanting to get his friend back. He then has Quaid and his {{Love Interest|s}} put for mindwashing ''and leaves the room, with the (apparently, until then) GenreSavvy Dragon''. When they escape, the second in command asks again to kill Quaid, to which a reluctant boss agrees. He reacts with, "It's about goddamn time!"



* In the ''Literature/GauntsGhosts'' novel ''Blood Pact'', [[spoiler: Eyl finally has Gaunt and Mabbon at his mercy and starts gloating. Mabbon tells Eyl that he should have just fired. By failing to do so, Eyl gets knocked away by Gaunt, then has his head ventilated by Larkin.]]

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* In the ''Literature/GauntsGhosts'' novel ''Blood Pact'', [[spoiler: Eyl finally has Gaunt and Mabbon at his mercy and starts gloating. Mabbon tells Eyl that he should have just fired. By failing to do so, Eyl gets knocked away by Gaunt, then has his head ventilated by Larkin.]]Larkin]].



** This happens again in the climax of ''Dead Beat'', when the BigBad's advisor recommends he kill Harry. The BigBad refuses, [[spoiler:because Harry's Death Curse would ruin the spell he's currently trying to control. As he learns to his misfortune scant minutes later, being knocked out from behind by a freed Harry has a just as bad an effect.]]

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** This happens again in the climax of ''Dead Beat'', when the BigBad's advisor recommends he kill Harry. The BigBad refuses, [[spoiler:because Harry's Death Curse would ruin the spell he's currently trying to control. As he learns to his misfortune scant minutes later, being knocked out from behind by a freed Harry has a just as bad an effect.]]effect]].



** [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] during the fight with Volgin. After the battle stops going his way, he looks up at Ocelot and orders him to shoot Snake. Ocelot replies with, "I'm afraid I can't do that." Then tells him, "Fight like a man, Volgin."

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** [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] {{Inverted|Trope}} during the fight with Volgin. After the battle stops going his way, he looks up at Ocelot and orders him to shoot Snake. Ocelot replies with, "I'm afraid I can't do that." Then tells him, "Fight like a man, Volgin."



* Inverted in ''VideoGame/BaldursGate 2''. After having captured you and completed his evil plans he had in store for you, BigBad Irenicus orders his sister, PsychoForHire Bodhi, to have you "disposed of" immediately. Bodhi instead exhibits the BondVillainStupidity her role is usually set up to lampshade and decides it would be much funnier to have you thrown to the resident MalevolentArchitecture in a game of cat and mouse -- behind Irenicus's back. The protagonist is even allowed to point out that Irenicus won't be happy if he finds out. Of course, Irenicus could have avoided the mess if he just killed the party himself.

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* Inverted in ''VideoGame/BaldursGate 2''.''VideoGame/BaldursGateII''. After having captured you and completed his evil plans he had in store for you, BigBad Irenicus orders his sister, PsychoForHire Bodhi, to have you "disposed of" immediately. Bodhi instead exhibits the BondVillainStupidity her role is usually set up to lampshade and decides it would be much funnier to have you thrown to the resident MalevolentArchitecture in a game of cat and mouse -- behind Irenicus's back. The protagonist is even allowed to point out that Irenicus won't be happy if he finds out. Of course, Irenicus could have avoided the mess if he just killed the party himself.



* ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'': In the end, [[spoiler:[=GLaDOS=] states that she's been ignoring the simple solution of how to get rid of Chell: just let her go. ''Killing'' Chell is very difficult and causes [=GLaDOS=] no end of problems... so why not just give Chell what she wants and let her go? [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial It's not like a gesture of gratitude or anything]].]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'': In the end, [[spoiler:[=GLaDOS=] states that she's been ignoring the simple solution of how to get rid of Chell: just let her go. ''Killing'' Chell is very difficult and causes [=GLaDOS=] no end of problems... so why not just give Chell what she wants and let her go? [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial It's not like a gesture of gratitude or anything]].]]anything]]]].



* In ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'''s Heaven's Feel scenario, True Assassin points out to his master that the easy and pragmatic thing would probably be to have him kill Shirou and Rin, who're running around like headless chickens desperately trying to find a way to defeat the Shadow that's eating half the town. Said master, who is an utter sadist, replies that it's more fun to do nothing, watch them fail, and have the Shadow kill them. [[EvilIsNotAToy This comes back to bite Zouken in the ass]] when [[spoiler:the Shadow, [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds which is Sakura]], kills him and True Assassin.]] To be fair [[spoiler:Zouken was lying about his motive: Sakura was slowly losing it, but Zouken had already learned that he simply couldn't break her on his own. Thus he leaves the two people who ''can'' do that alive and hope they screw up. They do!]]

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* In ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'''s Heaven's Feel scenario, True Assassin points out to his master that the easy and pragmatic thing would probably be to have him kill Shirou and Rin, who're running around like headless chickens desperately trying to find a way to defeat the Shadow that's eating half the town. Said master, who is an utter sadist, replies that it's more fun to do nothing, watch them fail, and have the Shadow kill them. [[EvilIsNotAToy This comes back to bite Zouken in the ass]] when [[spoiler:the Shadow, [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds which is Sakura]], kills him and True Assassin.]] Assassin]]. To be fair [[spoiler:Zouken was lying about his motive: Sakura was slowly losing it, but Zouken had already learned that he simply couldn't break her on his own. Thus he leaves the two people who ''can'' do that alive and hope they screw up. They do!]]do]]!



* HowItShouldHaveEnded usually takes this as how their episodes are done. Sometimes it's funnier, sometimes it's actually makes more sense than the normal story.
** Despite this, they even [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstruct]] this trope themselves, one example shows that if Joy utilized the machine used to send memories back to the HQ, Joy won't learn Sadness's task and purpose, and Bing Bong ended up going to Riley's mind, telling what is inside her mind, and destroy the HQ, completely making her insane and the emotions unable to control her.

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* HowItShouldHaveEnded usually takes this as how their episodes are done. Sometimes it's funnier, sometimes it's actually makes more sense than the normal story.
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story. Despite this, they even [[{{Deconstruction}} deconstruct]] this trope themselves, one themselves occasionally. One example shows that if [[WesternAnimation/InsideOut Joy utilized the machine used to send memories back to the HQ, Joy won't learn Sadness's task and purpose, and Bing Bong ended up going to Riley's mind, telling what is inside her mind, and destroy the HQ, completely making her insane and the emotions unable to control her.]]



** Another incident had Bumper and Stunt come across an unconcious Dominic on the street being tended to by Luna...

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** Another incident had Bumper and Stunt come across an unconcious unconscious Dominic on the street being tended to by Luna...



* Used in ''Webcomic/{{Nodwick}}'' when an evil henchman ends up asking his evil employers why they don't kill the adventurers they have so handily defeated. His only answer is to get a sword shoved in his face and a sharp admonishment that henchmen do not get to give orders.

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* Used in ''Webcomic/{{Nodwick}}'' ''ComicStrip/{{Nodwick}}'' when an evil henchman ends up asking his evil employers why they don't kill the adventurers they have so handily defeated. His only answer is to get a sword shoved in his face and a sharp admonishment that henchmen do not get to give orders.



** Several years later, it seems the Joker has learnt his lesson. After the Injustice Gang captures Batman, Luthor wants to keep Batman imprisoned up so that he can interrogate him and learn the Justice League's weaknesses. Joker, who knows from experience that keeping Batman alive isn't going to end well, tells Luthor to [[CombatPragmatist Just Shoot Him]]. Luthor doesn't listen, and Bats go on to take the Injustice League apart from the inside. Ironically, there is never a suggestion made to remove Batman's mask.
** Ex-actor-turned-[[VoluntaryShapeshifting shapeshifter]] Clayface makes the suggestion to Gorilla Grodd in another episode after capturing the heroes, specifically mentioning he's acted in enough movies to catch on that the heroes always think of a way out, and it would be better to just kill the subdued heroes immediately instead of trying to bring about a dramatic climax. Gorilla Grodd comments that he's not much for movies, and convinces him to go along with the dramatic approach by offering him an important center-stage role in the executions. Of course, it turns out [[spoiler:"Clayface" is really the shapeshifting hero J'onn J'onzz masquerading as the villain.]]

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** Several years later, it seems the Joker has learnt his lesson. After the Injustice Gang captures Batman, Luthor wants to keep Batman imprisoned up so that he can interrogate him and learn the Justice League's weaknesses. Joker, who knows from experience that keeping Batman alive isn't going to end well, tells Luthor to [[CombatPragmatist Just Shoot Him]]. Luthor doesn't listen, and Bats go on to take the Injustice League apart from the inside. Ironically, there is never a suggestion made to remove Batman's mask.
** Ex-actor-turned-[[VoluntaryShapeshifting shapeshifter]] Clayface makes the suggestion to Gorilla Grodd in another episode after capturing the heroes, specifically mentioning he's acted in enough movies to catch on that the heroes always think of a way out, and it would be better to just kill the subdued heroes immediately instead of trying to bring about a dramatic climax. Gorilla Grodd comments that he's not much for movies, and convinces him to go along with the dramatic approach by offering him an important center-stage role in the executions. Of course, it turns out [[spoiler:"Clayface" is really the shapeshifting hero J'onn J'onzz masquerading as the villain.]]villain]].



** People have been saying this about Megatron and [[TheStarscream Starscream]] for ''years'' due to Screamer's constant attempts to take leadership of the Decepticons in just about every continuity. In ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'', [[spoiler:it finally happens, only for Starscream to become immortal from a shard of the Allspark embedded in his head. Megatron proceeds to kill him about five more times in a single episode, to no avail.]]
* ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' has a tradition of GenreBlind villains and GenreSavvy henchmen, so you'll see the Simple Solution getting Stated a lot.

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** People have been saying this about Megatron and [[TheStarscream Starscream]] for ''years'' due to Screamer's constant attempts to take leadership of the Decepticons in just about every continuity. In ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'', [[spoiler:it finally happens, only for Starscream to become immortal from a shard of the Allspark embedded in his head. Megatron proceeds to kill him about five more times in a single episode, to no avail.]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' has a tradition of GenreBlind {{Genre Blind|ness}} villains and GenreSavvy henchmen, so you'll see the Simple Solution getting Stated stated a lot.



* A Non-verbal example of this comes from the writings of Simplicius of Cilica, regarding an Ancient Greek philosophical debate. One of Zeno's Paradoxes states that it's actually impossible to leave a room, since first you have to get halfway to the door, then a quarter of the way to the door, then an eighth of the way, etc., getting very close but never actually being able to leave (Greek Mathematics didn't have the concept of zero). While other logicians proposed more intricate responses to the paradox, Diogenes of Sinope (appropriately, one of the founders of Cynic philosophy) simply ''got up and walked out of the room''. Strictly speaking, not the correct way to refute a Logical Paradox, but it's hard to argue with the result.
** One interpretation is that the paradox was meant to show that reality is an illusion, since one can physically appear to do what is logically impossible.

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* A Non-verbal example of this comes from the writings of Simplicius of Cilica, regarding an Ancient Greek philosophical debate. One of Zeno's Paradoxes states that it's actually impossible to leave a room, since first you have to get halfway to the door, then a quarter of the way to the door, then an eighth of the way, etc., getting very close but never actually being able to leave (Greek Mathematics didn't have the concept of zero). While other logicians proposed more intricate responses to the paradox, Diogenes of Sinope (appropriately, one of the founders of Cynic philosophy) simply ''got up and walked out of the room''. Strictly speaking, not the correct way to refute a Logical Paradox, but it's hard to argue with the result.
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result. One interpretation is that the paradox was meant to show that reality is an illusion, since one can physically appear to do what is logically impossible.



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20th Feb '16 5:00:57 PM Eddy1215
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* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/DaveTheBarbarian'', the Dark Lord Chuckles the Silly Piggy is trying to break into Udregoth Castle. When his nephew asks why he doesn't just use the Mystical Amulet of Hogswineboar to blow a hole in the wall, Chuckles tries to give a reason and after failing, mutters how much he hates his nephew before using the amulet to blast the wall.



* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/DaveTheBarbarian'', the Dark Lord Chuckles the Silly Piggy is trying to break into Udregoth Castle. When his nephew asks why he doesn't just use the Mystical Amulet of Hogswineboar to blow a hole in the wall, Chuckles tries to give a reason and after failing, mutters how much he hates his nephew before using the amulet to blast the wall.
20th Feb '16 5:00:14 PM Eddy1215
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** This is actually the cause of the overarching MythArc [[spoiler:when Stan tried to burn the journal Ford had given to him rather than go through a DangerousDeviceDesposalbeDebacle. However, Ford didn't want his research destroyed and flipped out, resulting in a skirmish that got Ford sucked into his portal]].


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* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/DaveTheBarbarian'', the Dark Lord Chuckles the Silly Piggy is trying to break into Udregoth Castle. When his nephew asks why he doesn't just use the Mystical Amulet of Hogswineboar to blow a hole in the wall, Chuckles tries to give a reason and after failing, mutters how much he hates his nephew before using the amulet to blast the wall.
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