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20th Sep '17 2:46:54 AM Silverblade2
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* There were plans for the ''ComicBook/XMen'' crossover ''ComicBook/FatalAttractions'' to include a major battle between Franchise/{{Wolverine}} and SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}}. Creator/PeterDavid jokingly commented, "Adamantium's metal, right? If I were Magneto, I'd just rip Wolverine's skeleton out and be done with him" - which the writers and editors promptly decided to have him do. David later said that offhand comment was the biggest influence he'd ever had on the X-Men.

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* There were plans for the ''ComicBook/XMen'' crossover ''ComicBook/FatalAttractions'' to include a major battle between Franchise/{{Wolverine}} and SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}}.ComicBook/{{Magneto}}. Creator/PeterDavid jokingly commented, "Adamantium's metal, right? If I were Magneto, I'd just rip Wolverine's skeleton out and be done with him" - which the writers and editors promptly decided to have him do. David later said that offhand comment was the biggest influence he'd ever had on the X-Men.
18th Sep '17 10:39:26 AM jccw227
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* In ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'', Calvin is worried over Rosalyn coming over to babysit again, and unsure of how to handle it. Hobbes suggest that maybe they could try being good for a change. Calvin incredulously asks him to repeat that. Hobbes just says, "Nothing. Forget it."
18th Sep '17 2:08:46 AM Malachi108
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* '''[[Creator/PennAndTeller Penn Jillette]]''' has stated that the Greatest E-mail he ever sent from a text-to-impact ratio was when he was one of the few who proofread UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins's ''The God Delusion'' before publication. He came to a part of the manuscript when Dawkins quoted an American hater of his calling him "a cheese eater!", and Dawkins then spent two-and-a-half page trying to deconstruct how being a cheese eater could be a bad thing, where cheese where manufactured in America and if there was some correlation with that area and atheism. Penn's immediate realisation and comment?

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* '''[[Creator/PennAndTeller Penn Jillette]]''' has stated that the Greatest E-mail he ever sent from a text-to-impact ratio was when he was one of the few who proofread UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins's ''The God Delusion'' before publication. He came to a part of the manuscript when Dawkins quoted an American hater of his calling him "a cheese eater!", and Dawkins then spent two-and-a-half page trying to deconstruct how being a cheese eater could be a bad thing, where cheese where was manufactured in America and if there was some correlation with that area and atheism. Penn's immediate realisation and comment?
14th Sep '17 6:37:31 PM merotoker
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* PlayedForLaughs in the ''LightNovel/HaiyoreNyarkoSan'' mini-episodes ''Nyaruani''. [[OnlySaneMan Mahiro]] is [[NoFourthWall reading the first Nyarko-San novel]] and asks Cuuko: "[[StalkerWithACrush You wanted to see Nyarko badly enough]] that you joined a criminal organization, but then you joined the [[SpacePolice Planetary Defense Organization]] [[{{Nepotism}} thanks to an uncle in H.R.]]. So why didn't you just join the PDO to begin with so you could see her as a colleague?" Cuuko responds by [[PlayingWithFire lighting the novel on fire]] and telling Mahiro it's [[MST3KMantra a warning]].

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* PlayedForLaughs in the ''LightNovel/HaiyoreNyarkoSan'' mini-episodes ''Nyaruani''. [[OnlySaneMan Mahiro]] is [[NoFourthWall reading the first Nyarko-San novel]] and asks Cuuko: "[[StalkerWithACrush You wanted to see Nyarko badly enough]] that you joined a criminal organization, but then you joined the [[SpacePolice Planetary Defense Organization]] [[{{Nepotism}} thanks to an uncle in H.R.]]. ]] So why didn't you just join the PDO to begin with so you could see her as a colleague?" Cuuko responds by [[PlayingWithFire lighting the novel on fire]] and telling Mahiro it's [[MST3KMantra a warning]].



* There were plans for the ''ComicBook/XMen'' crossover ''Fatal Attractions'' to include a major battle between Comicbook/{{Wolverine}} and SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}}. Creator/PeterDavid jokingly commented, "Adamantium's metal, right? If I were Magneto, I'd just rip Wolverine's skeleton out and be done with him" - which the writers and editors promptly decided to have him do. David later said that offhand comment was the biggest influence he'd ever had on the X-Men.

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* There were plans for the ''ComicBook/XMen'' crossover ''Fatal Attractions'' ''ComicBook/FatalAttractions'' to include a major battle between Comicbook/{{Wolverine}} Franchise/{{Wolverine}} and SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}}. Creator/PeterDavid jokingly commented, "Adamantium's metal, right? If I were Magneto, I'd just rip Wolverine's skeleton out and be done with him" - which the writers and editors promptly decided to have him do. David later said that offhand comment was the biggest influence he'd ever had on the X-Men.



* At one point in ''FanFic/{{Eugenesis}}'' someone is amazed to see [[spoiler:Optimus Prime alive, and asks if someone "finally" went to Vs'Qs and retrieved his body, which has been there for the last twenty years.]]

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* At one point in ''FanFic/{{Eugenesis}}'' someone is amazed to see [[spoiler:Optimus Prime alive, and asks if someone "finally" went to Vs'Qs and retrieved his body, which has been there for the last twenty years.]]years]].



** "Angel Summoner and BMX Bandit", a mismatched pair of superheroes [[TheyFightCrime who fight crime]]. In each sketch, BMX Bandit would draw up a complicated strategy involving his BMX tricks, only for Angel Summoner to point out it's easier to just summon some angels to do everything for them. Subverted in the final instalment, when it's BMX Bandit suggesting some angel-summoning, rather than risk his life trying to perform an impossible jump and fight a group of terrorists, but Angel Summoner refuses to because of a previous agreement. [[spoiler:Then it turns out he summoned some angels anyway.]]

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** "Angel Summoner and BMX Bandit", a mismatched pair of superheroes [[TheyFightCrime who fight crime]]. In each sketch, BMX Bandit would draw up a complicated strategy involving his BMX tricks, only for Angel Summoner to point out it's easier to just summon some angels to do everything for them. Subverted in the final instalment, installment, when it's BMX Bandit suggesting some angel-summoning, rather than risk his life trying to perform an impossible jump and fight a group of terrorists, but Angel Summoner refuses to because of a previous agreement. [[spoiler:Then it turns out he summoned some angels anyway.]]



* The bread and butter WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded- stating the far simpler and/or funnier way to solve the problem of the story than what the characters in the movie did. Examples include the ''Film/JurassicWorld'' park containing the Indominus Rex by such simple measures as not putting in a dinosaur-sized exit to the habitat and building a moat inside it (something real life zoos very often do), [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Bucky]] avoiding his [[BrainwashedAndCrazy conditioning]] being activated by plugging his ears, and [[Film/SuicideSquad June]] preventing the whole plot of the film by making sure that the statue the Enchantress was trapped in is never damaged or broken, like a good archeologist.
** It's also sometimes Deconstructed, like in the ''Film/InsideOut' HISHE, in which the simple method leads to Bing-Bong revealing the existence of the Mind World to Riley, causing her to go insane.

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* The bread and butter WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded- stating the far simpler and/or funnier way to solve the problem of the story than what the characters in the movie did. Examples include the ''Film/JurassicWorld'' park containing the Indominus Rex by such simple measures as not putting in a dinosaur-sized exit to the habitat and building a moat inside it (something real life zoos very often do), [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Bucky]] avoiding his [[BrainwashedAndCrazy conditioning]] being activated by plugging his ears, and [[Film/SuicideSquad [[Film/SuicideSquad2016 June]] preventing the whole plot of the film by making sure that the statue the Enchantress was trapped in is never damaged or broken, like a good archeologist.
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archeologist. It's also sometimes Deconstructed, like in the ''Film/InsideOut' ''Film/InsideOut'' HISHE, in which the simple method leads to Bing-Bong revealing the existence of the Mind World to Riley, causing her to go insane.



* ''Webcomic/TheAdventuresOfDrMcNinja'' appears to be pulling this when [[spoiler:Frans Rayner has Mongo go to great lengths to capture Dr. [=McNinja=] alive instead of just killing him in combat.]] Dr. McNinja actually calls him out on this. It then justifies it when [[spoiler: Rayner reveals that Mongo has learned the value of human life and refuses to kill, forcing Rayner to go with the capture plan instead]].

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* ''Webcomic/TheAdventuresOfDrMcNinja'' appears to be pulling this when [[spoiler:Frans Rayner has Mongo go to great lengths to capture Dr. [=McNinja=] alive instead of just killing him in combat.]] combat]]. Dr. McNinja actually calls him out on this. It then justifies it when [[spoiler: Rayner reveals that Mongo has learned the value of human life and refuses to kill, forcing Rayner to go with the capture plan instead]].



* ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' (also part of the Franchise/{{DCAU}})

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* ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' (also part of the Franchise/{{DCAU}})Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse)



* When SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker obtains godlike power in the "Emperor Joker" episode of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'', ComicBook/HarleyQuinn suggests that, now that he's got Batman where he wants him, he should take his mask off and find out who he is. Note that he actually kills Batman. Repeatedly.

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* When SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker obtains godlike power in the "Emperor Joker" episode of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'', ComicBook/HarleyQuinn suggests that, now that he's got Batman where he wants him, he should take his mask off and find out who he is. Note that he actually kills Batman. Repeatedly.



** Señor Senior Sr. is a billionaire who has become a wilfully genre-blind villain simply ForTheLulz. His son, Señor Senior Jr., is not terribly bright but is at least capable of noticing that 'the traditions of villainy' are not very practical. His common-sense questions exasperate his father, who feels that his son "doesn't [[ContractualGenreBlindness get it]]".

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** Señor Senior Sr. is a billionaire who has become a wilfully willfully genre-blind villain simply ForTheLulz. His son, Señor Senior Jr., is not terribly bright but is at least capable of noticing that 'the traditions of villainy' are not very practical. His common-sense questions exasperate his father, who feels that his son "doesn't [[ContractualGenreBlindness get it]]".



* ''WesternAnimation/JimmyNeutronBoyGenius'' in one episode, all of Jimmy Neutron's past villains have teamed up. They had just captured '''JimmyNeutron''' on their spaceship and started shotgunning for ideas on how to kill him. Eventually, [[IdiotSavant Finbar Calamatus]] starts to map out a [[ComplexityAddiction ridiculously complicated and elaborate device]] that combined everyone's ideas, until [[EnfantTerrible Baby Eddie]] blurts out [[ThrownOutTheAirlock "Just blow him into deep space!"]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/JimmyNeutronBoyGenius'' in one episode, [[LegionOfDoom all of Jimmy Neutron's past villains have teamed up.up]]. They had just captured '''JimmyNeutron''' on their spaceship and started shotgunning for ideas on how to kill him. Eventually, [[IdiotSavant Finbar Calamatus]] starts to map out a [[ComplexityAddiction ridiculously complicated and elaborate device]] that combined everyone's ideas, until [[EnfantTerrible Baby Eddie]] blurts out [[ThrownOutTheAirlock "Just blow him into deep space!"]]
11th Sep '17 8:45:27 AM Nintendoman01
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'''[[NoNonsenceNemesis Scott Evil]]:''' I have a gun, in my room, you give me five seconds, I'll get it, I'll come back down here, BOOM, I'll blow their brains out!\\

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'''[[NoNonsenceNemesis '''[[NoNonsenseNemesis Scott Evil]]:''' I have a gun, in my room, you give me five seconds, I'll get it, I'll come back down here, BOOM, I'll blow their brains out!\\


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* ''Literature/CaptainUnderpants'': In the fourth book, Professor Poopypants is DrivenToMadness over people constantly making fun of his name and uses {{Shrink Ray}}s and HumongousMecha to hold the world hostage, threatening to shrink everyone in the world unless they change their names to ones just as silly as his. When Captain Underpants defeats him and he's being taken away by the police, George and Harold point out that he could have simply changed his own name instead, to which the Professor confesses that such a solution had never occurred to him. Sadly, the name he chooses to change to, Tippy Tinkletrousers, is just as [[UnfortunateName unfortunate]].
8th Sep '17 7:28:27 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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Most often, it's a villain (usually of the DiabolicalMastermind or EvilOverlord variety) proposing the complicated scheme, and it is a GenreSavvy minion (or occasionally even TheHero himself) questioning their boss's grade-A BondVillainStupidity. However, it's not unheard of for clever villains to brag about the fact that they're eschewing elaborate {{Death Trap}}s and intend to just shoot the hero, making them a NoNonsenseNemesis. Sometimes, it's a HyperCompetentSidekick wondering why the hero is adhering to HonorBeforeReason.

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Most often, it's a villain (usually of the DiabolicalMastermind or EvilOverlord variety) proposing the complicated scheme, and it is a GenreSavvy savvy minion (or occasionally even TheHero himself) questioning their boss's grade-A BondVillainStupidity. However, it's not unheard of for clever villains to brag about the fact that they're eschewing elaborate {{Death Trap}}s and intend to just shoot the hero, making them a NoNonsenseNemesis. Sometimes, it's a HyperCompetentSidekick wondering why the hero is adhering to HonorBeforeReason.



'''[[GenreSavvy Scott Evil]]:''' I have a gun, in my room, you give me five seconds, I'll get it, I'll come back down here, BOOM, I'll blow their brains out!\\

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'''[[GenreSavvy '''[[NoNonsenceNemesis Scott Evil]]:''' I have a gun, in my room, you give me five seconds, I'll get it, I'll come back down here, BOOM, I'll blow their brains out!\\



* ''Film/TotalRecall1990'' has this happening twice, first one in a non-lethal way. While Quaid given the "virtual trip to Mars", the owner of the clinic leaves the room to get new clients. During the hunt for Quaid, TheDragon truly attempts several times to kill him, but towards the end is stopped by the BigBad, who justifies it by wanting to get his friend back. He then has Quaid and his {{Love Interest|s}} put for mindwashing ''and leaves the room, with the (apparently, until then) GenreSavvy Dragon''. When they escape, the second in command asks again to kill Quaid, to which a reluctant boss agrees. He reacts with, "It's about goddamn time!"

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* ''Film/TotalRecall1990'' has this happening twice, first one in a non-lethal way. While Quaid given the "virtual trip to Mars", the owner of the clinic leaves the room to get new clients. During the hunt for Quaid, TheDragon truly attempts several times to kill him, but towards the end is stopped by the BigBad, who justifies it by wanting to get his friend back. He then has Quaid and his {{Love Interest|s}} put for mindwashing ''and leaves the room, with the (apparently, until then) GenreSavvy Dragon''.with TheDragon''. When they escape, the second in command asks again to kill Quaid, to which a reluctant boss agrees. He reacts with, "It's about goddamn time!"



* ''Webcomic/{{Oglaf}}'': Mistress, clearly [[GenreSavvy aware of the situation]], cuts [[http://oglaf.com/blanket/1/ to the chase.]]

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* ''Webcomic/{{Oglaf}}'': Mistress, clearly [[GenreSavvy aware of the situation]], situation, cuts [[http://oglaf.com/blanket/1/ to the chase.]]



* ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' has a tradition of {{Genre Blind|ness}} villains and GenreSavvy henchmen, so you'll see the Simple Solution getting stated a lot.
** Señor Senior Sr. is a billionaire who has become a wilfully genre-blind villain simply ForTheLulz. His son, Señor Senior Jr., is not terribly bright but is at least capable of [[GenreSavvy noticing that 'the traditions of villainy' are not very practical.]] His common-sense questions exasperate his father, who feels that his son "doesn't [[ContractualGenreBlindness get it]]".

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* ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' has a tradition of {{Genre Blind|ness}} villains and GenreSavvy savvy henchmen, so you'll see the Simple Solution getting stated a lot.
** Señor Senior Sr. is a billionaire who has become a wilfully genre-blind villain simply ForTheLulz. His son, Señor Senior Jr., is not terribly bright but is at least capable of [[GenreSavvy noticing that 'the traditions of villainy' are not very practical.]] practical. His common-sense questions exasperate his father, who feels that his son "doesn't [[ContractualGenreBlindness get it]]".
1st Sep '17 10:39:26 PM Nulono
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* On ''Series/PushingDaisies'', the murderers will never use mundane methods to either kill their victims, or in their attempts to kill the heroes when they have the heroes captured (which they almost always do). This trope is eventually invoked in the episode "Smell of Success":

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* On ''Series/PushingDaisies'', the murderers will never use mundane methods to either kill their victims, or in their attempts to kill the heroes when they have the heroes captured (which they almost always do). This trope is eventually invoked lampshaded in the episode "Smell of Success":
26th Aug '17 1:28:53 AM ultimomant
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* In ''Fanfic/FateParallelFantasia'', when Rin finds out Homura can stop time, she asks why Homura doesn't just stop time and kill all the other Servants and Masters right now. Homura shoots the suggestion down. Keeping time frozen for even a few minutes costs a ''lot'' of prana, plus if she touches anything, they unfreeze, so she can't attack in this state.
6th Aug '17 11:13:32 AM DarkHunter
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* In ''Anime/CrossAnge'', when Ange, Tusk, and Vivian meet up with the survivors of Arzenal inside the Aurora, Ange proposes a simple solution so that Libertus will succeed: "Why not just [[spoiler: join with the [=DRAGONs=]? They're humans who can be reasoned with unlike [[FantasticRacism our humans here]]]]. Everyone does agree, [[GeneralRipper except for Jill]].

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* In ''Anime/CrossAnge'', when Ange, Tusk, and Vivian meet up with the survivors of Arzenal inside the Aurora, Ange proposes a simple solution so that Libertus will succeed: "Why not just [[spoiler: join with the [=DRAGONs=]? We have a common enemy and they're willing to cooperate with us. They're humans who can be reasoned with unlike [[FantasticRacism our humans here]]]].here]]]]". Everyone does agree, [[GeneralRipper except for Jill]].
28th Jul '17 11:13:18 AM Nintendoman01
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