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7th Feb '16 9:17:09 PM Superfield
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* Discussed in an episode of ''WebVideo/BestOfTheWorst''. Josh "The Wizard" points this trope out to the others while watching ''High Voltage''.
25th Jan '16 10:54:45 AM tentakkelbj0rn
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Ancient greek iconography is not real life.
[[folder:Real Life]] * Used in Ancient Greek iconography: women get held by the wrist when kidnapped, or sometimes by her husband. [[/folder]]
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[[folder:Real Life]] * Used in Ancient Greek iconography: women get held by the wrist when kidnapped, or sometimes by her husband. [[/folder]]
21st Jan '16 7:18:30 PM ZeldaQueen64
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* Subverted in ''Webcomic/HannaIsNotABoysName''. Zombie tries to restrain Adelaide by grabbing her wrists. She being a vampire and thus having super strength, she's kept still for a panel or so before simply breaking off one of Zombie's arms and freeing herself.
18th Jan '16 1:45:12 AM Ohio9
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* In ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'': Claire Redfield is the main playable character for most of the game. During this time, she fights through countless hoards of enemies and enormous level bosses. However, near the end of the game she is captured by Albert Wesker, who captures her by simply putting his hands on her. That's it. He just grabs her and she puts up no resistance until her brother Chris comes to her rescue.
5th Nov '15 11:52:57 PM Terreliv
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* The ''JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' generally subverted:
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* The ''JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' ''JusticeLeagueUnlimited,'' generally subverted:

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* The ''JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' generally subverted:*** In [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague the original,]] Green Lantern grabs Wonder Woman by the wrist to stop her from talking to a reporter, and it works.
4th Nov '15 8:15:36 PM Gargoyle_Kid
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"...LESS real estate that would NOT offensive to grab...", Meaning less real estate that wouldn'the be offensive.
Giving the benefit of the doubt, this trope exists to keep fights interesting. But since it doesn't happen near as often to guys, it's more likely that [[DoubleStandard gender stereotypes haven't changed as much as we're led to believe]]. Alternatively, when someone tries to calm or incapacitate a guy it's much more socially acceptable to use a believable amount of force -- such as punching him, [[TapOnTheHead knocking him out with a weapon]], or beating him senseless. Until the audience gets over its distaste for seeing female characters hurt -- and immediately seeing any man who uses force against a woman as a villain -- there will be a double standard. A third possibility is that of simple pragmatism: while animators these days have no problems lampshading how ridiculously sexist "chivalry" is, many real life holds on women can come off as perversely sexual (e.g. a full nelson from a strong opponent, while capable of incapacitating the character, also involves her assailant pressing himself behind her, forcing her head down, and spreading her arms from her chest). It doesn't excuse how ridiculous it is for an otherwise strong female to fold this easily, however. Another take from the [[MediaWatchdog Media Watchdogs]] is that males have a lot less [[UnusualEuphemism real estate]] that would be offensive to grab, leaving few positions for women that would not be reminiscent of [[{{DoubleStandard}} sexual harassment.]] Therefore, a writer might use this as a less graphic shortcut to incur a plot development. Note this ''never'' happens to a DarkActionGirl or a true ActionGirl, who can use it before a surprise attack. If a Mook were to attempt such a thing, well, expect someone to be on the business end of a nasty [[GroinAttack kick to the crotch]], aka: the standard ''male'' instant-incapacitation area (and ''this'' one is TruthInTelevision). And that's if he's lucky -- modern Dark Action Girls are rather likely to opt for breaking his arm in three places instead of "lowering themselves" to a groin attack.
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Giving the benefit of the doubt, this trope exists to keep fights interesting. But since it doesn't happen near as often to guys, it's more likely that [[DoubleStandard gender stereotypes haven't changed as much as we're led to believe]]. Alternatively, when someone tries to calm or incapacitate a guy it's much more socially acceptable to use a believable amount of force -- such as punching him, [[TapOnTheHead knocking him out with a weapon]], or beating him senseless. Until the audience gets over its distaste for seeing female characters hurt -- and immediately seeing any man who uses force against a woman as a villain -- there will be a double standard. A third possibility is that of simple pragmatism: while animators these days have no problems lampshading how ridiculously sexist "chivalry" is, many real life holds on women can come off as perversely sexual (e.g. a full nelson from a strong opponent, while capable of incapacitating the character, also involves her assailant pressing himself behind her, forcing her head down, and spreading her arms from her chest). It doesn't excuse how ridiculous it is for an otherwise strong female to fold this easily, however. Another take from the [[MediaWatchdog Media Watchdogs]] is that males have a lot less [[UnusualEuphemism real estate]] that would not be offensive to grab, leaving few positions for women that would not be reminiscent of [[{{DoubleStandard}} sexual harassment.]] Therefore, a writer might use this as a less graphic shortcut to incur a plot development. Note this ''never'' happens to a DarkActionGirl or a true ''true'' ActionGirl, who can use it before a surprise attack. If a Mook were to attempt such a thing, well, expect someone to be on the business end of a nasty [[GroinAttack kick to the crotch]], aka: the standard ''male'' instant-incapacitation area (and ''this'' one is TruthInTelevision). And that's if he's lucky -- modern Dark Action Girls are rather likely to opt for breaking his arm in three places instead of "lowering themselves" to a groin attack.
29th Oct '15 9:51:02 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* The Giant Killer Mike Mondo does incapacitated Maria Kanellis this way on OVW television. However, it did him no good against Alexis Laree (yes, the same one). He did know his fair share of actual debilitating holds but subduing Laree was no trivial effort.
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* The Giant Killer Mike Mondo does incapacitated Maria Kanellis incapacitate Wrestling/MariaKanellis this way on OVW television. However, it did him no good against Alexis Laree (yes, the same one). He did know his fair share of actual debilitating holds but subduing Laree was no trivial effort.
26th Oct '15 8:39:13 PM triscion
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** Shepard does it again in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' to [[spoiler: Samara in the Ardat Yakshi monastery]]. Of course, it's mentioned that biotics need precise and exact muscle movements, and Shepard is a super-powered cyborg at both points, so this means that the SFGA is a perfect way to incapacitate biotics as long as they haven't learned how to channel their abilities through their legs. Of course, the only biotic we know of with that ability is male.
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** Shepard does it again in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' to [[spoiler: in a paragon interrupt to prevent Samara from committing suicide in the Ardat Yakshi monastery]]. Of course, it's mentioned that biotics need precise and exact muscle movements, and Shepard is a super-powered cyborg at both points, so this means that the SFGA is a perfect way to incapacitate biotics as long as they haven't learned how to channel their abilities through their legs. Of course, the only biotic we know of with that ability is male.
11th Oct '15 10:52:22 AM CnHGirl
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** Again during the beginning of Raven's arc: When Slade is forcing Raven to acknowledge the doomsday prophecy surrounding her SealedEvilInACan existence, he is holding her by both arms in the same spot. While Raven doesn't have super-strength, [[SquishyWizard compensated for by insanely powerful telekinesis and magic]], her powers, like Starfire's, are also rooted in emotion; specifically emotional control and detachment. She's too freaked out and mired in self-loathing and resignation to effectively defend herself. Unlike other examples on this page, there is a pretty disturbing sexual harassment subtext, given Slade is a zombified 30-something-year-old man and Raven is, at this point, 16 (the prophecy kicks in on her 17th birthday).
11th Oct '15 9:29:14 AM CnHGirl
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** In ''Disney/{{Mulan}}'', this is how Chi Fu forcibly drags Mulan out of the medical tent [[spoiler: after her real gender is found out]]. While Chi Fu is the weakest person in the group and Mulan could've easily fought him off, she probably also realized that any attempt at fighting back [[spoiler: probably would've gotten her executed sooner, Shang's ultimate act of mercy notwithstanding]].
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