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16th Jan '17 2:28:34 PM BirdAlliance
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* TheMovie ''Anime/Doraemon'': Nobita's Great Adventure into the Underworld involves the characters creating a parallel universe where magic exists. Unfortunately said parallel world turned out to have a BigBad demon who wanted to take over the Earth. The solution? [[CuttingTheKnot Just go back to their own universe.]] In the comic it has a fake ending but of course it doesn't work since people will notice a suspiciously large amount of book left.

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* In ''Anime/{{Doraemon}}'' TheMovie ''Anime/Doraemon'': Nobita's ''Nobita's Great Adventure into the Underworld Underworld'' involves the characters creating a parallel universe where magic exists. Unfortunately said parallel world turned out to have a BigBad demon who wanted to take over the Earth. The solution? [[CuttingTheKnot Just go back to their own universe.]] In the comic it has a fake ending but of course it doesn't work since people will notice a suspiciously large amount of book left.
13th Jan '17 6:48:09 PM Vilui
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* ''Literature/InvisibleMonsters'' deliberately counters this, even moreso in the [[ReCut "Remix"]] version. Not only do all versions follow an AnachronicOrder (as both start at the conclusion [[HowWeGotHere and work backwards]]), but the "Remix" even removed the knowledge of remaining length; as each chapter ends similarly to a ChooseYourOwnAdventure book (i.e. "Now turn to page X"), the knowledge of how and when the book ends comes as a total surprise.

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* ''Literature/InvisibleMonsters'' deliberately counters this, even moreso more so in the [[ReCut "Remix"]] version. Not only do all versions follow an AnachronicOrder (as both start at the conclusion [[HowWeGotHere and work backwards]]), but the "Remix" even removed the knowledge of remaining length; as each chapter ends similarly to a ChooseYourOwnAdventure book (i.e. "Now turn to page X"), the knowledge of how and when the book ends comes as a total surprise.
5th Nov '16 6:53:42 AM Dravencour
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* At the midway point of ''Film/PrinceCaspian'', the forces of Narnia attack the Telmarine castle. Since it is the midway point, [[spoiler:it's pretty obvious that the assault is doomed to failure from the start]]. For bonus points, this assault is nowhere in the [[Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia original Narnia saga]].
1st Nov '16 3:00:36 PM WillKeaton
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** Some of the ''StarWars'' [[StarWarsExpandedUniverse Expanded Universe]] ebooks have a preview not only of a chapter of the next book in that series, but also a chapter of the first book in half a dozen other StarWarsExpandedUniverse series. The actual final chapter can be at 70% of the progress bar.

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** Some of the ''StarWars'' [[StarWarsExpandedUniverse Expanded Universe]] ebooks have a preview not only of a chapter of the next book in that series, but also a chapter of the first book in half a dozen other StarWarsExpandedUniverse ''StarWars'' [[StarWarsExpandedUniverse Expanded Universe]] series. The actual final chapter can be at 70% of the progress bar.
1st Nov '16 3:00:12 PM WillKeaton
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** Some of the StarWarsExpandedUniverse ebooks have a preview not only of a chapter of the next book in that series, but also a chapter of the first book in half a dozen other StarWarsExpandedUniverse series. The actual final chapter can be at 70% of the progress bar.

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** Some of the StarWarsExpandedUniverse ''StarWars'' [[StarWarsExpandedUniverse Expanded Universe]] ebooks have a preview not only of a chapter of the next book in that series, but also a chapter of the first book in half a dozen other StarWarsExpandedUniverse series. The actual final chapter can be at 70% of the progress bar.
8th Oct '16 4:33:43 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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* This gets increasingly averted as the ''Literature\{{Safehold}}'' series goes on. Every book has a list of characters and a glossary of terms at the end of it, which include characters and terms from the entire series, not just the individual book. In the eighth novel, the combined length of these two items takes up ''one hundred pages''. Or, to put it another way, ''thirteen percent'' of the book.

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* This gets increasingly averted as the ''Literature\{{Safehold}}'' ''Literature/{{Safehold}}'' series goes on. Every book has a list of characters and a glossary of terms at the end of it, which include characters and terms from the entire series, not just the individual book. In the eighth novel, the combined length of these two items takes up ''one hundred pages''. Or, to put it another way, ''thirteen percent'' of the book.
24th Sep '16 9:48:48 PM DavidTC
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** Some of the StarWarsExpandedUniverse ebooks have a preview not only of a chapter of the next book in that series, but also a chapter of the first book in half a dozen other StarWarsExpandedUniverse series. The actual final chapter can be at 70% of the progress bar.
15th Sep '16 3:15:55 AM StFan
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-->'''Haruko:''' What are you doing here? This is the climax! You need to be where the action is!"
* Lampshaded in an episode of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' where, after several incredibly dumb attempts to steal Pokémon, the Team Rocket trio actually tries something that might work. James wonders why they didn't start out with this plan, and Jessie replies that they needed to fill an episode.

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-->'''Haruko:''' What are you doing here? This is the climax! You need to be where the action is!"
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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'':
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Lampshaded in an episode of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' the anime where, after several incredibly dumb attempts to steal Pokémon, the Team Rocket trio actually tries something that might work. James wonders why they didn't start out with this plan, and Jessie replies that they needed to fill an episode.



* At the end of the second ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' movie, [[spoiler: Shinji does something that triggers 3rd Impact]]. However, you know that [[spoiler: 3rd Impact will be aborted]] because there are two more movies to go.
** [[spoiler: Subverted in ''3.0.'', which reveals that yes, Third Impact still happened, and most of humanity was wiped out as a result.]]

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* At the end of the second ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' movie, [[spoiler: Shinji does something that triggers 3rd Impact]]. However, you know that [[spoiler: 3rd Impact will be aborted]] because there are two more movies to go.
** [[spoiler: Subverted
go. [[spoiler:Subverted in ''3.0.'', which reveals that yes, Third Impact still happened, and most of humanity was wiped out as a result.]]



[[folder:Comic Strips]]
* ''ComicStrip/{{Frazz}}'' intends to avert this for his first novel.
-->"When you can see how many pages are left, it gets in the way of suspense. For ''my'' first novel, I'm going to put a hundred or so pages of incomprehensible gobbledygook at the end."
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[[folder:Game Show]]
* Most U.S. poker-based shows that use the "no limit" rule (a player can go "all in" and bet all his chips at any time) qualify. If there are two players left and a player goes "all in", the game will continue if and only if the player with less money wins the hand. So if there's only one minute left, the player with more money will win.
* The Japanese edition of ''Series/WhoWantsToBeAMillionaire'' always have the current player's round ending by the end of the edition, something {{lampshade|Hanging}}d by the aforementioned ''Manga/LuckyStar'' example. On many exported editions of the show, as well as [[WhoWantsToBeWhoWantsToBeAMillionaire other contests inspired by it]], if the first contestant is sent home early and a second contestant is called onstage, it's a safe bet he will drop early as well, since often there isn't enough time for him to play all the way to the ending.
* ''Series/CashCab'' has a format in which players answer questions while taking a cab ride to their destination. If they get three strikes, they get [[AllOrNothing kicked out of the cab]]. If it's getting very close to the end of the episode and they're nowhere near their destination, it's a pretty obvious sign they're going to lose and get kicked out.
* On ''Series/TheAmazingRace'', it's a pretty sure sign that it's a "To be continued..." leg if it's just a few minutes until the end of the episode and still no teams whatsoever have checked into the Pit Stop.
* On the UK version of ''Series/DealOrNoDeal'', it's always pretty obvious how the game will unfold depending on the board situation and the time left remaining of the show. Are they deliberating at only the 3rd offer with around 10 - 15 minutes to go? Then they will accept the offer. Is there over 25 minutes remaining and they are at the 4th offer? Then they will be going all the way to the end. Have they declined a huge or significant offer at the 5th offer with only a few minutes or so remaining? Then the game will crash and the contestant goes away with a low amount and the whole thing will be wrapped up quickly.
* There's a Taiwanese version of ''Series/TheMillionPoundDrop'' which, unlike the original, does not have rollover contestants, is not aired live, and is edited down to one hour. So if it's 3 minutes to the hour and it's not the final question of the game, you know the team's going to crash out on the next question.
* ''Series/AmericanNinjaWarrior'' has a significant problem with this when it comes to its season finales. Once they get to Stage 3, if the show is nearing the end of it's running time, you can bet that nobody is going to clear the stage. [[ZigZaggedTrope Zig-Zagged]] when there is plenty of time to spare, giving you the ability to deduce that somebody is going to reach Stage 4, but doesn't reveal if they beat the final stage or not.
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* {{Game Show}}s:
** Most U.S. poker-based shows that use the "no limit" rule (a player can go "all in" and bet all his chips at any time) qualify. If there are two players left and a player goes "all in", the game will continue if and only if the player with less money wins the hand. So if there's only one minute left, the player with more money will win.
** The Japanese edition of ''Series/WhoWantsToBeAMillionaire'' always have the current player's round ending by the end of the edition, something {{lampshade|Hanging}}d by the aforementioned ''Manga/LuckyStar'' example. On many exported editions of the show, as well as [[WhoWantsToBeWhoWantsToBeAMillionaire other contests inspired by it]], if the first contestant is sent home early and a second contestant is called onstage, it's a safe bet he will drop early as well, since often there isn't enough time for him to play all the way to the ending.
** ''Series/CashCab'' has a format in which players answer questions while taking a cab ride to their destination. If they get three strikes, they get [[AllOrNothing kicked out of the cab]]. If it's getting very close to the end of the episode and they're nowhere near their destination, it's a pretty obvious sign they're going to lose and get kicked out.
** On ''Series/TheAmazingRace'', it's a pretty sure sign that it's a "To be continued..." leg if it's just a few minutes until the end of the episode and still no teams whatsoever have checked into the Pit Stop.
** On the UK version of ''Series/DealOrNoDeal'', it's always pretty obvious how the game will unfold depending on the board situation and the time left remaining of the show. Are they deliberating at only the 3rd offer with around 10 - 15 minutes to go? Then they will accept the offer. Is there over 25 minutes remaining and they are at the 4th offer? Then they will be going all the way to the end. Have they declined a huge or significant offer at the 5th offer with only a few minutes or so remaining? Then the game will crash and the contestant goes away with a low amount and the whole thing will be wrapped up quickly.
** There's a Taiwanese version of ''Series/TheMillionPoundDrop'' which, unlike the original, does not have rollover contestants, is not aired live, and is edited down to one hour. So if it's 3 minutes to the hour and it's not the final question of the game, you know the team's going to crash out on the next question.
** ''Series/AmericanNinjaWarrior'' has a significant problem with this when it comes to its season finales. Once they get to Stage 3, if the show is nearing the end of it's running time, you can bet that nobody is going to clear the stage. [[ZigZaggedTrope Zig-Zagged]] when there is plenty of time to spare, giving you the ability to deduce that somebody is going to reach Stage 4, but doesn't reveal if they beat the final stage or not.



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* ''Series/CriminalMinds''''Series/CriminalMinds'':



* Actively [[PlayingWithATrope played with]] on ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'', which knows [[GenreSavvy the audience is smart enough]] to think that the actual reveal of the mother would be a big deal, so Future!Ted, the narrator, will often casually spoil plot points with his way of explaining things, such as occasionally forgetting the name of whatever girlfriend Present!Ted has in the episode.

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* ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'':
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Actively [[PlayingWithATrope played with]] on ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'', which knows with]], knowing [[GenreSavvy the audience is smart enough]] to think that the actual reveal of the mother would be a big deal, so Future!Ted, Future Ted, the narrator, will often casually spoil plot points with his way of explaining things, such as occasionally forgetting the name of whatever girlfriend Present!Ted Present Ted has in the episode.



[[folder:Newspaper Comics]]
* ''ComicStrip/{{Frazz}}'' intends to avert this for his first novel.
-->"When you can see how many pages are left, it gets in the way of suspense. For ''my'' first novel, I'm going to put a hundred or so pages of incomprehensible gobbledygook at the end."

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[[folder:Pro Wrestling]]
* ''ComicStrip/{{Frazz}}'' intends Whenever a major title match is announced as the main event on one of the weekly shows, check the time. If there's only 5 minutes left on the show, it's almost guaranteed that the match will likely end in a disqualification or the defending champion winning through some sort of tomfoolery. Or, if it's a regular main event and there's still plenty of time left after the winner celebrates his victory, expect someone to avert this [[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle come out and cut a promo or attack them.]] Also shows up when the current champion is on the cards for his first novel.
-->"When you can see how many pages are left, it gets
a title defence on a PPV or an international tour, although unexpected title changes and card shuffles have happened in the way past in spite of suspense. For ''my'' first novel, I'm going previously announced matches, often due to put a hundred or so pages unforeseen injury, contract disputes or, in modern times, breaches of incomprehensible gobbledygook at the end."wellness program. Even with pro wrestling's love of the ShockingSwerve, though, you'll rarely see this happen as an intentional fake-out rather than [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real life writing the plot]].



[[folder:Professional Wrestling]]
* Whenever a major title match is announced as the main event on one of the weekly shows, check the time. If there's only 5 minutes left on the show, it's almost guaranteed that the match will likely end in a disqualification or the defending champion winning through some sort of tomfoolery. Or, if it's a regular main event and there's still plenty of time left after the winner celebrates his victory, expect someone to [[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle come out and cut a promo or attack them.]] Also shows up when the current champion is on the cards for a title defence on a PPV or an international tour, although unexpected title changes and card shuffles have happened in the past in spite of previously announced matches, often due to unforeseen injury, contract disputes or, in modern times, breaches of the wellness program. Even with pro wrestling's love of the ShockingSwerve, though, you'll rarely see this happen as an intentional fake-out rather than [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real life writing the plot]].
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[[folder: TV Tropes]]
* It's considered an IdiotBall by some to go reading a tropes page for a work ''before'' seeing/reading/etc the work, and expecting not to be spoiled.
** On another level, even the spoiler tags can still spoil, because for example:
*** When you come to a [[WalkingSpoiler heavily spoiler-tagged section that deals with a specific character]], you're going to know ''something'' is going to happen when the character turns up - even if you're not sure what.
*** If the gender is constantly hidden by spoilers, especially if the male-to-female ratio isn't equal (or worse yet, there's only one character of a particular gender), it can be pretty easy to guess who the spoiler tags are trying to hide. Not to mention it's also very easy to tell the difference between [[spoiler:he]] and [[spoiler:she]]. Relatedly, if a character is referred to as one gender in the story, but an entry about them spoilers their gender, that spoils the reveal of [[SamusIsAGirl one]] or [[GenderBender two]] tropes.
*** If a character has a very long or very short name compared to the rest of the cast, spoilering the name can end up being pointless. If the entry is about ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' and you use spoiler tags to hide the fact that [[spoiler:Q]] appears in an episode, a reader who knows the series will easily guess who you're talking about.
*** Even if the spoiler tags aren't scrolled over, any link hidden within them is still evident. This can spoil it for any reader who accidentally leaves the cursor over the spoiler tag such as in cases where [[spoiler:ItWasAllADream]].
*** Spoilers also involving people that die. Especially in a case of AerithAndBob where most names can reach several syllables.
*** Site policy dictates that the trope being labelled should never go inside spoiler tags, meaning that even if the rest of the entry is whited out, the very presence of the trope in the list can spoil the fact that ''something'' related to that particular trope is going to happen. It's worse when it's on a Characters page.
*** For more, see SelfFulfillingSpoiler.
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[[folder:Web Animation]]
* Avoided by the ''WebAnimation/CyanideAndHappiness'' episode [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbWlqVjjoFE "Waiting for the Bus 2"]] by having the end credits take up about half the video.
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[[folder:Websites]]
* Website/IMDb: When looking up a TV series on the site, you'll see each actor listed on the main page of the series with the number of episodes they appear in. Woe to you if you've just gotten interested in a series and see that one of the main characters appears in far less episodes than the rest of the cast - it sometimes can lead to the realization that someone is going to be KilledOffForReal or PutOnABus. This is somewhat mitigated, though, by the fact that the episode counts are often inaccurate, due to the site's info submission format and episode-page format. It's not unheard of for the lead of a successful series to only have a single-digit number of episodes on their [=IMDb=] tally.
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* Website/IMDb: When looking up a TV series on the site, you'll see each actor listed on the main page of the series with the number of episodes they appear in. Woe to you if you've just gotten interested in a series and see that one of the main characters appears in far less episodes than the rest of the cast -- it sometimes can lead to the realization that someone is going to be KilledOffForReal or PutOnABus. This is somewhat mitigated, though, by the fact that the episode counts are often inaccurate, due to the site's info submission format and episode-page format. It's not unheard of for the lead of a successful series to only have a single-digit number of episodes on their [=IMDb=] tally.
* Wiki/TVTropes: It's considered an IdiotBall by some to go reading a tropes page for a work ''before'' seeing/reading/etc the work, and expecting not to be spoiled. On another level, even the spoiler tags can still spoil, because for example:
** When you come to a [[WalkingSpoiler heavily spoiler-tagged section that deals with a specific character]], you're going to know ''something'' is going to happen when the character turns up -- even if you're not sure what.
** If the gender is constantly hidden by spoilers, especially if the male-to-female ratio isn't equal (or worse yet, there's only one character of a particular gender), it can be pretty easy to guess who the spoiler tags are trying to hide. Not to mention it's also very easy to tell the difference between [[spoiler:he]] and [[spoiler:she]]. Relatedly, if a character is referred to as one gender in the story, but an entry about them spoilers their gender, that spoils the reveal of [[SamusIsAGirl one]] or [[GenderBender two]] tropes.
** If a character has a very long or very short name compared to the rest of the cast, spoilering the name can end up being pointless. If the entry is about ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' and you use spoiler tags to hide the fact that [[spoiler:Q]] appears in an episode, a reader who knows the series will easily guess who you're talking about.
** Even if the spoiler tags aren't scrolled over, any link hidden within them is still evident. This can spoil it for any reader who accidentally leaves the cursor over the spoiler tag such as in cases where [[spoiler:ItWasAllADream]].
** Spoilers also involving people that die. Especially in a case of AerithAndBob where most names can reach several syllables.
** Site policy dictates that the trope being labelled should never go inside spoiler tags, meaning that even if the rest of the entry is whited out, the very presence of the trope in the list can spoil the fact that ''something'' related to that particular trope is going to happen. It's worse when it's on a Characters page.
** For more, see SelfFulfillingSpoiler.



* ''AnalyzingPhish'' is a podcast in which Harris Wittels attempts to get Scott Aukerman to like the band Music/{{Phish}}, with the understanding that if Scott ever decides to like Phish, the podcast will end immediately. Occasionally, just before Harris plays the next Phish song, Scott will tell the audience that if the current episode is about to end, it's because whatever song that is about to play has convinced him to like Phish. [[spoiler:This never happens]].

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* ''AnalyzingPhish'' ''Podcast/AnalyzingPhish'' is a podcast in which Harris Wittels attempts to get Scott Aukerman to like the band Music/{{Phish}}, with the understanding that if Scott ever decides to like Phish, the podcast will end immediately. Occasionally, just before Harris plays the next Phish song, Scott will tell the audience that if the current episode is about to end, it's because whatever song that is about to play has convinced him to like Phish. [[spoiler:This never happens]].



* Avoided by the ''WebVideo/CyanideAndHappiness'' episode [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbWlqVjjoFE "Waiting for the Bus 2"]] by having the end credits take up about half the video.



* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':



--> '''Homer:''' "Everything's wrapped up nicely. Ooh, much quicker than usual, too!"

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--> '''Homer:''' "Everything's --->'''Homer:''' Everything's wrapped up nicely. Ooh, much quicker than usual, too!"too!



* While it's not the most talked about thing in the ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' finale, [[spoiler: the creation of a new spirit portal]] was something a lot of people didn't see coming. Despite this being a big twist, [[spoiler: the spirit portal is clearly shown behind Korra in the Season 4 DVD package, along with a destroyed Republic City]]
** Played more straight in ''The Battle for Zaofu'' when Korra fight Kuvira in a duel. Considering we were only in the middle of the season, it wasn't hard to guess Korra couldn't possibly defeat the BigBad now.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'':
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While it's not the most talked about thing in the ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' the finale, [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the creation of a new spirit portal]] was something a lot of people didn't see coming. Despite this being a big twist, [[spoiler: the spirit portal is clearly shown behind Korra in the Season 4 DVD package, along with a destroyed Republic City]]
** Played more straight in ''The "The Battle for Zaofu'' Zaofu" when Korra fight Kuvira in a duel. Considering we were only in the middle of the season, it wasn't hard to guess Korra couldn't possibly defeat the BigBad now.



** In ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E23InspirationManifestation Inspiration Manifestation]]'', Rarity has made her creative contribution to the Foal and Filly Fair, nothing bad has happened, and she's about to return the book to Spike...and at this point, we're only eight minutes into the episode. She decides to hold onto the book for just a little while longer...
* It's quite clear from the first minute that [[Recap/TheAmazingWorldOfGumballS3E35TheCountdown "The Countdown"]] from ''WesternAnimation/TheAmazingWorldOfGumball'' won't remain a RaceAgainstTheClock story from beginning to end. The clock begins counting down from six minutes and twenty-three seconds, but all of the show's episodes last around eleven minutes.

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** In ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E23InspirationManifestation "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E23InspirationManifestation Inspiration Manifestation]]'', Manifestation]]", Rarity has made her creative contribution to the Foal and Filly Fair, nothing bad has happened, and she's about to return the book to Spike...Spike... and at this point, we're only eight minutes into the episode. She decides to hold onto the book for just a little while longer...
* It's quite clear from the first minute that [[Recap/TheAmazingWorldOfGumballS3E35TheCountdown "The Countdown"]] "[[Recap/TheAmazingWorldOfGumballS3E35TheCountdown The Countdown]]" from ''WesternAnimation/TheAmazingWorldOfGumball'' won't remain a RaceAgainstTheClock story from beginning to end. The clock begins counting down from six minutes and twenty-three seconds, but all of the show's episodes last around eleven minutes.
12th Sep '16 7:02:27 PM XylonLionheart
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* ''Series/AmericanNinjaWarrior'' has a significant problem with this when it comes to its season finales. Once they get to Stage 3, if the show is nearing the end of it's running time, you can bet that nobody is going to clear the stage. [[ZigZaggedTrope Zig-Zagged]] when there is plenty of time to spare, giving you the ability to deduce that somebody is going to reach Stage 4, but doesn't reveal if they beat the final stage or not.
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* TheMovie ''Anime/Doraemon'': Nobita's Great Adventure into the Underworld involves the characters creating a parallel universe where magic exists. Unfortunately said parallel world turned out to have a BigBad demon who wanted to take over the Earth. The solution? [[CuttingTheKnot Just go back to their own universe.]] In the comic it has a fake ending but of course it doesn't work since people will notice a suspiciously large amount of book left.
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