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23rd Apr '16 7:44:01 AM AgProv
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* The most recent TV adaptation of the Boudicca legend had British chariots fitted with scythed hubcaps, hackling a spectacular swathe in tightly-packed Roman ranks, despite this having been demonstrated to be a historical fabrication.
23rd Apr '16 7:41:47 AM AgProv
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** The earliest Irish legends assert that the great hero CuChullain went into battle in a chariot liberally fitted out with hooks, blades and spikes on every applicable surface (including hubcaps) so as to better rend his foes. Romantically-minded Victorian historians read this as recorded fact, and leapt to the conclusion that ''all'' Celtic heores - and heorines - had scythes on their hubcaps. As Boudicca was a Celt, therefore... Boudicca therefore got her spiked wheels by default from the Irish legend, and all later historians took their cue from this flight of imagination.

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** The earliest Irish legends assert that the great hero CuChullain went into battle in a chariot liberally fitted out with hooks, blades and spikes on every applicable surface (including hubcaps) so as to better rend his foes. Romantically-minded Victorian historians read this as recorded fact, and leapt to the conclusion that ''all'' Celtic heores heroes - and heorines heroines - had scythes on their hubcaps. As Boudicca was a Celt, therefore... Boudicca therefore got her spiked wheels by default from the Irish legend, and all later historians took their cue from this flight of imagination.
23rd Apr '16 7:41:01 AM AgProv
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** The earliest Irish legends assert that the great hero CuChullain went into battle in a chariot liberally fitted out with hooks, blades and spikes on every applicable surface (including hubcaps) so as to better rend his foes. vromantically-0minbded victorian historians read this as recorded fact, and leapt to the conclusion that ''all'' Celtic heores - and heorines - had scythes on their hubcaps. As Boudicca was a Celt, therefore... Boudicca therefore got her spiked wheels by default from the Irish legend, and all later historiansd took their cue from this flight of imagination.

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** The earliest Irish legends assert that the great hero CuChullain went into battle in a chariot liberally fitted out with hooks, blades and spikes on every applicable surface (including hubcaps) so as to better rend his foes. vromantically-0minbded victorian Romantically-minded Victorian historians read this as recorded fact, and leapt to the conclusion that ''all'' Celtic heores - and heorines - had scythes on their hubcaps. As Boudicca was a Celt, therefore... Boudicca therefore got her spiked wheels by default from the Irish legend, and all later historiansd historians took their cue from this flight of imagination.
23rd Apr '16 7:40:23 AM AgProv
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** The earliest Irish legends assert that the great hero CuChullain went into battle in a chariot liberally fitted out with hooks, blades and spikes on every applicable surface (including hubcaps) so as to better rend his foes. vromantically-0minbded victorian historians read this as recorded fact, and leapt to the conclusion that ''all'' Celtic heores - and heorines - had scythes on their hubcaps. As Boudicca was a Celt, therefore... Boudicca therefore got her spiked wheels by default from the Irish legend, and all later historiansd took their cue from this flight of imagination.
22nd Apr '16 8:47:47 PM Doug86
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** Chariots were arguably on their way out from the moment horses that could carry a rider were available. A charioteer has to control a whole team and killing or wounding even one horse will drag the rest down with it. All chariots need a driver as well as a warrior whereas it is possible for a cavalryman to control a single horse with leg pressure and reins while wielding weapons; thus cavalry effectively doubles the amount of firepower(or bowpower, or swordpower) available. Not to mention it is easier to reach a target without all that complexity of horses, harnesses, and the chariot itself in the way. Chariots could be blocked by terrain much more easily than cavalry- woods, rocky terrain, or slopes could stop chariots cold. Perhaps most importantly chariots need a industrial base whereas horses can depend solely on what a pastoral society can provide. This allowed HordesFromTheEast to get in on the fun of mass homicide in a big way where they were limited in the time of chariots. By the time AlexanderTheGreat met the Persians chariots were perhaps among the sentimental anachronisms that appear on battlefields from time to time.

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** Chariots were arguably on their way out from the moment horses that could carry a rider were available. A charioteer has to control a whole team and killing or wounding even one horse will drag the rest down with it. All chariots need a driver as well as a warrior whereas it is possible for a cavalryman to control a single horse with leg pressure and reins while wielding weapons; thus cavalry effectively doubles the amount of firepower(or bowpower, or swordpower) available. Not to mention it is easier to reach a target without all that complexity of horses, harnesses, and the chariot itself in the way. Chariots could be blocked by terrain much more easily than cavalry- woods, rocky terrain, or slopes could stop chariots cold. Perhaps most importantly chariots need a industrial base whereas horses can depend solely on what a pastoral society can provide. This allowed HordesFromTheEast to get in on the fun of mass homicide in a big way where they were limited in the time of chariots. By the time AlexanderTheGreat UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat met the Persians chariots were perhaps among the sentimental anachronisms that appear on battlefields from time to time.
3rd Feb '16 11:16:05 AM Knight20
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* LeonardoDaVinci [[http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/doing-davinci-scythe-chariot.html liked to take things to the point where they really weren't the same trope anymore.]]
* Boudicca never actually used these as British charioteers actually played the part of 'battle taxi' for a (noble) warrior, transporting him into the fray and providing a means of escape if it went badly. Eastern forces ''did'' use scythed chariots as a shock weapon but they became rapidly obsolete as the professional armies of Macedon and then Rome produced countermeasures.
** Chariots were arguably on their way out from the moment horses that could carry a rider were available. A charioteer has to control a whole team and killing or wounding even one horse will drag the rest down with it. All chariots need a driver as well as a warrior whereas it is possible for a cavalryman to control a single horse with leg pressure and reins while wielding weapons; thus cavalry effectively doubles the amount of firepower(or bowpower, or swordpower) available. Not to mention it is easier to reach a target without all that complexity of horses, harnesses, and the chariot itself in the way. Chariots could be blocked by terrain much more easily than cavalry- woods, rocky terrain, or slopes could stop chariots cold. Perhaps most importantly chariots need a industrial base whereas horses can depend solely on what a pastoral society can provide. This allowed HordesFromTheEast to get in on the fun of mass homicide in a big way where they were limited in the time of chariots. By the time AlexanderTheGreat met the Persians chariots were perhaps among the sentimental anachronisms that appear on battlefields from time to time.
* Knock-off wheels have been illegal as factory equipment on new cars in the US since 1968 because while this isn't their purpose (they're made to be unbolted by unscrewing the central wingnut rather than undoing the usual 4 or 5 lug nuts), they can have that effect.

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* LeonardoDaVinci [[http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/doing-davinci-scythe-chariot.html liked to take things to the point where they really weren't the same trope anymore.]]
* Boudicca never actually used these as British charioteers actually played the part of 'battle taxi' for a (noble) warrior, transporting him into the fray and providing a means of escape if it went badly. Eastern forces ''did'' use scythed chariots as a shock weapon but they became rapidly obsolete as the professional armies of Macedon and then Rome produced countermeasures.
** Chariots were arguably on their way out from the moment horses that could carry a rider were available. A charioteer has to control a whole team and killing or wounding even one horse will drag the rest down with it. All chariots need a driver as well as a warrior whereas it is possible for a cavalryman to control a single horse with leg pressure and reins while wielding weapons; thus cavalry effectively doubles the amount of firepower(or bowpower, or swordpower) available. Not to mention it is easier to reach a target without all that complexity of horses, harnesses, and the chariot itself in the way. Chariots could be blocked by terrain much more easily than cavalry- woods, rocky terrain, or slopes could stop chariots cold. Perhaps most importantly chariots need a industrial base whereas horses can depend solely on what a pastoral society can provide. This allowed HordesFromTheEast to get in on the fun of mass homicide in a big way where they were limited in the time of chariots. By the time AlexanderTheGreat met the Persians chariots were perhaps among the sentimental anachronisms that appear on battlefields from time to time.
* Knock-off wheels have been illegal as factory equipment on new cars in the US since 1968 because while this isn't their purpose (they're made to be unbolted by unscrewing the central wingnut rather than undoing the usual 4 or 5 lug nuts), they can have that effect.
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28th Nov '15 4:38:52 PM nombretomado
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* In ''VideoGame/SaintsRow2'' and ''3'' you can buy them for your cars. The spikes pop out when you pick up a bit of speed. Unfortunately, they don't collide with pedestrians, only vehicles.

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* In ''VideoGame/SaintsRow2'' and ''3'' ''[[VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird 3]]'' you can buy them for your cars. The spikes pop out when you pick up a bit of speed. Unfortunately, they don't collide with pedestrians, only vehicles.



* Vigor, the champion of the [[GladiatorGames Nobilian arena]] in ''SecretOfEvermore'', fights from his spiked chariot. The wheels can cause considerable damage. The catch is, [[CombatPragmatist you're on]] ''[[CombatPragmatist foot]]'' . . .

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* Vigor, the champion of the [[GladiatorGames Nobilian arena]] in ''SecretOfEvermore'', ''VideoGame/SecretOfEvermore'', fights from his spiked chariot. The wheels can cause considerable damage. The catch is, [[CombatPragmatist you're on]] ''[[CombatPragmatist foot]]'' . . .
9th Oct '15 6:36:44 AM harlbior
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* The Buzzards in ''Film/MadMaxFuryRoad'' have these on their hedgehog-like vehicles, designed for disabling vehicles that enter their territory. To counter this, vehicles such as the War Rig have spikes on their own wheels which point outwards to parry them.
30th Aug '15 8:18:22 AM BattleMaster
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** Chariots were arguably on their way out from the moment horses that could carry a rider were available. A charioteer has to control a whole team and killing or wounding even one horse will drag the rest down with it. All chariots need a driver as well as a warrior whereas it is possible for a cavalryman to control a single horse with leg pressure and reins while wielding weapons; thus cavalry effectively doubles the amount of firepower(or bowpower, or swordpower) available. Not to mention it is easier to reach a target without all that complexity of horses, harnesses, and the chariot itself in the way. Perhaps most importantly chariots need a industrial base whereas horses can depend solely on what a pastoral society can provide. This allowed HordesFromTheEast to get in on the fun of mass homicide in a big way where they were limited in the time of chariots. By the time AlexanderTheGreat met the Persians chariots were perhaps among the sentimental anachronisms that appear on battlefields from time to time.

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** Chariots were arguably on their way out from the moment horses that could carry a rider were available. A charioteer has to control a whole team and killing or wounding even one horse will drag the rest down with it. All chariots need a driver as well as a warrior whereas it is possible for a cavalryman to control a single horse with leg pressure and reins while wielding weapons; thus cavalry effectively doubles the amount of firepower(or bowpower, or swordpower) available. Not to mention it is easier to reach a target without all that complexity of horses, harnesses, and the chariot itself in the way. Chariots could be blocked by terrain much more easily than cavalry- woods, rocky terrain, or slopes could stop chariots cold. Perhaps most importantly chariots need a industrial base whereas horses can depend solely on what a pastoral society can provide. This allowed HordesFromTheEast to get in on the fun of mass homicide in a big way where they were limited in the time of chariots. By the time AlexanderTheGreat met the Persians chariots were perhaps among the sentimental anachronisms that appear on battlefields from time to time.
26th Aug '15 8:14:16 AM PrimeEvil
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* The Batmobile in ''BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' had these, perhaps to justify their inclusion on Kenner's toy version.
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