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*''Manga/DogSoldier'' has Col. Harry, Hiba's former commanding officer.
10th Jan '17 10:53:38 PM DeepRed
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# '''The Jingo:''' First, the kind who are swept up in PatrioticFervor or similar and are doing it because they're [[KnightTemplar convinced their cause gives them the right to be as brutal as they please]] (racism, {{fantastic|Racism}} or otherwise might be involved). [[PayEvilUntoEvil They might think the enemy genuinely are scum who deserve whatever is visited on them]] (or slightly more likely, they will not believe/not care about this but use it as an excuse anyway). May be a SociopathicHero. Very, very fond of DisproportionateRetribution; one of his comrades is worth at least ten of theirs, and it doesn't matter if they're noncombatants or not. If one of his buddies dies, the likelihood that he'll randomly shoot some civilians on the street just to MakeAnExampleOfThem is quite high.

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# '''The Jingo:''' First, the kind who are swept up in PatrioticFervor or similar [[MyCountryRightOrWrong similar]] and are doing it because they're [[KnightTemplar convinced their cause gives them the right to be as brutal as they please]] (racism, {{fantastic|Racism}} or otherwise might be involved). [[PayEvilUntoEvil They might think the enemy genuinely are scum who deserve whatever is visited on them]] (or slightly more likely, they will not believe/not care about this but use it as an excuse anyway). May be a SociopathicHero. Very, very fond of DisproportionateRetribution; one of his comrades is worth at least ten of theirs, and it doesn't matter if they're noncombatants or not. If one of his buddies dies, the likelihood that he'll randomly shoot some civilians on the street just to MakeAnExampleOfThem is quite high.
5th Jan '17 8:53:18 AM Hanz
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* Slightly subverted with Trevor Phillips of ''Videogame/GrandTheftAutoV'', whose psychopathic nature meant that despite completing his training as a helicopter pilot for the Royal Canadian Air Force, he failed the psychological evaluation which prevented him from actually joining.
28th Dec '16 7:45:17 PM DoctorCooper
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This is TruthInTelevision. Every war, ever, has examples of this show up on all sides. Some have more, some have less, but no one has none. The amount varies widely depending on a whole range of factors, with the most important one usually being whether such behavior is shunned, ignored, or outright encouraged by military higher-ups and politicians (with countless examples of all three options). Scientifically tested [[http://www.cracked.com/article_16239_5-psychological-experiments-that-prove-humanity-doomed.html here, especially the second page]]. Also, relatedly, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobo_doll_experiment this article]]. That's all we'll say on the topic.



* PBS documentary [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7cZuhqSzzc Genocide:Worse Than War]] seems to go more in depth about the first kind.



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* Every war, ever, has examples of this show up on all sides. Some have more, some have less, but no one has none. The amount varies widely depending on a whole range of factors, with the most important one usually being whether such behavior is shunned, ignored, or outright encouraged by military higher-ups and politicians (with countless examples of all three options). Scientifically tested [[http://www.cracked.com/article_16239_5-psychological-experiments-that-prove-humanity-doomed.html here, especially the second page]]. Also, relatedly, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobo_doll_experiment this article]].
* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7cZuhqSzzc This video]] seems to go more in depth about the first kind.
* The UsefulNotes/ThirtyYearsWar (1618-1648) produced thousands as mercenary armies pillaged for three decades across the length and breadth of Germany.
** The soldiers of the Swedish Empire especially, had a reputation for this. The [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwedentrunk Schwedentrunk is a legacy of this.]] It goes beyond the UsefulNotes/ThirtyYearsWar as well. In the UsefulNotes/GreatNorthernWar, Swedish soldiers supposedly [[BrainBleach once filled a womans genitals with explosives and then lit the fuse.]] It should be noted however, that the only source for the latter is the book '' Carolus Rex : hans liv i sanning återberättat''[[note]]"Carolus Rex: His life in truth, recounted."[[/note]] by Ernst Brunner, which was widely panned for its historical inaccuracies, that verged on the slanderous.
* UsefulNotes/WorldWarII had many of these kind of soldiers, especially on the Eastern Front, where ''both'' sides (the [[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons Wehrmacht]] and the [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Red Army]]) were notorious for having these. [[FridgeHorror Both Wehrmacht and Red Army]] were based on {{conscription}}, so type 3 was omnipresent. During WWII and the Second Sino-Japanese war the [[ImperialJapan Imperial Japanese Army]] also did some [[MoralEventHorizon horrible]] things to Chinese civilians and any soldiers unfortunate enough to be captured by the Japanese.
** [[FridgeHorror Also the Imperial Japanese army]] was based on {{conscription}}. Ditto for Type 3.
* The penal battalions (''Shtrafbat'') of both Germans and Soviets. UpToEleven variant of Type 3.
* 36th Waffen-Grenadier Division ''Dirlewanger'' was composed of Type 2 criminals, with commander Oskar Dirlewanger himself being a convicted sexual offender. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even fellow Waffen-SS troops hated them and shunned them]].
* The participants of the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre My Lai Massacre]].
** The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program Phoenix Program]] of the same time seemed aimed to create thousands of examples of this trope for the war effort, with tens or even hundreds of thousands of victims, alive or dead.
* This breed of soldier seems to be very common in Colombia's various military/paramilitary organizations. As [[TheWarNerd the]] [[http://exiledonline.com/colombia-a-hundred-years-of-slaughtertude/ War Nerd]] puts it: "''They kill in uniform or out, home or away, on the street or the battlefield. Equal Opportunity Slaughter: men, women, children, dogs -- if it moves, they'll kill it. For any reason. For no reason. For money, for fun, for the Revolution, for the Counter-Revolution, for practice.''"
* Also terrifyingly common in el drugo el waro in Mexico. Epitomized by an incident in 2014 when Zeta cartel members massacred 64 students for the lulz. Yes, they killed sixty-four people who were completely uninvolved -- they weren't rivals, snitches, police, military, militia, or uncooperative officials. They were just regular university students.
* Many examples, Type 1 and 2, from Argentina's Dirty War, which took place from 1976-83. Under [[GeneralRipper the junta]], torture, kidnappings, and mass murder were institutionalized, and carried out by members of the Argentine armed forces. Some, such as [[ShellShockedVeteran Adolfo]] [[TheAtoner Scilingo]] have repented, and asked to be imprisoned. Others, like [[TortureTechnician Julian the Turk]] have not, and indeed seem very proud of their achievements. At least 30,000 people were killed, by leaders who claimed to be protecting them from the DirtyCommunists.
-->'''[[GeneralRipper General Iberico St. Jean]], governor of Buenos Aires:''' First we will kill all the subversives; then we will kill all their collaborators; then their sympathisers; then those who remained indifferent; and finally, we’ll kill the undecided.
* Osvaldo Romo, among other members of the Chilean DINA (secret police during the Pinochet dictatorship). But Romo stands out because [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsUmU2aAVbY he gave an interview where he goes into detail bragging about how he tortured prisoners]].
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse The Abu Ghraib prison guards]].
** [[http://fastlad.blogspot.com/2006/07/like-squashing-ant.html "Over here, killing people is like squashing an ant."]]
** If you read his interview with a reporter just before a [[MoralEventHorizon nasty incident]] that landed him in prison, he is a Type 3 example.
* Italian, and Belgian, soldiers were caught abusing Somali civilians during the peacekeeping and humanitarian operations there in late 1992/early 1993. The Italian soldiers [[http://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/14/world/photos-of-troops-abusing-somalis-in-93-shock-italians.html also photographed what they did]], with methods of torture and abuse comparable to Abu Ghraib a decade later.
** It took a while for the UN to realise that sending soldiers as peacekeepers to countries which were formerly colonies of that nation was not a good idea. Those Italian soldiers would have been sons or grandsons of men who fought to conquer and "pacify" the nation formerly known as Italian East Africa (now a part of Somalia) and who, under Mussolini, fought there with great brutality to the natives. They might well have seen it as picking up where they left off in 1941, or "getting even" for historical atrocities perpetrated on Italian soldiers, who were captured by natives not predisposed to be nice to their prisoners. Meanwhile the natives would have seen the old hated colonial power returning under a new guise. Old bitter memories die hard on both sides. Belgian military atrocities in its former African colonies are also well documented. A European nation which for its size was over-represented in UN peacekeeping forces in Africa was the Irish Republic: unique in Western Europe for having been a colonialised country, rather then an imperialist coloniser. Irish soldiers, for this reason, tended to be popular and well-respected.
** Speaking of the [[UsefulNotes/UnitedNations UN]], in the early 1960's the Swedish army participated in battle for the first time in 140 years, when 6000 soldiers participated in the peacekeeping operations in Congo. This operation was controversial since it was the first time that the UN went from conducting a "peacekeeping" operation, to a [[DeadlyEuphemism "peacemaking" one.]] [[note]]The UN participated as the aggressor in outright battles, in other words.[[/note]] One of these Swedes was a soldier and combat photographer named Gert Gustafsson. He told several stories to the press upon returning home, about how the Swedish army supposedly committed war crimes. This blew up, but a journalist did some investigating and found out that ''ALL'' stories about alleged war crimes, came from Gert Gustafsson. Turns out he had developed PTSD after being forced to kill child soldiers in self defense, and had also been subjected to a [[KickTheDog mock execution while being a POW.]] After taking therapy, he also found out that he had repressed memories of giving a MercyKill to a Congolese fighter. This combined with his guilt over his self-admitted racist attitude to the Congolese civilians in those days led him to [[FalseConfession confess to anything.]]
* A group of U.S. soldiers were recently put on trial for deliberately killing Afghani civilians and planting evidence to make it look like self-defense. Not only that, but they also threatened several members of their unit that might have told in order to keep them quiet. Threats included purposefully dropping a weight on them while lifting weights.
* More recently, David Motari, subject of a [[MemeticMutation memetic]] video where he [[KickTheDog chucks a live puppy]] [[ForTheEvulz off a cliff.]] The Marines were not pleased.
* Spanish "Conquistadors". There are chronicles of them (from a Spanish priest, no less) that tell how they would rip children from their mother's breast, cut them while still alive and feed them to the war dogs.
* Enlisting in the armed forces has become popular among white supremacists and inner city gangs who hope to acquire knowledge of military tactics which they could apply in their criminal activities. The problem has gotten so severe that recruits are now examined for gang tattoos that might identify a past or present association with said groups, and more than one tattoo, gang-affiliated or not, is grounds for being barred from recruiting.
* Finland ignored most drug prohibiting treaties or paid them only lip service after WWII. So many soldiers [[TheseHandsHaveKilled had lost]] their [[ShellShockedVeteran mental balance]] during the wars that ignoring drug prohibition was a way to keep them from freaking up. Well until the 1970s most of the [[FridgeHorror drill instructors for conscripts were war veterans]]...
* As in the case of Argentina's Dirty War, Guatemala's long, long civil war (1960-1996) produced many of these, as the military junta became more and more brutal in its dealings with the populace. Soldiers carried out acts of mass politicide, and ethnic cleansing and genocide of the indigenous Mayan population became a feature of the war. Of the 200,000+ people who died in the war, over 90 percent are believed to have died at the hands of the Guatemalan Army; this does not even include the 45-50,000 people who were "disappeared". To pick one particularly gruesome example at the village of Los Dos Erres, the army buried civilians alive, dashed the heads of infants against walls, and kept the village's women as prisoners so they could repeatedly rape them. The soldiers involved ran the full gamut of types, from I-IV.
%%* During Brazil's military dictatorship, the soldiers would torture dissidents. By itself that makes them sociopathic. Wait until you learn that they also tortured [[WouldHurtAChild THE BABIES]] of dissidents.
* The stresses involved in policing the West Bank/Occupied Territories are taking a heavy toll of conscripts in the [[Usefulnotes/{{Israel}} Israeli]] army. Even leaving aside alleged cases of brutality and bad behaviour against the Palestinian population[[note]]There is lots of objective third-party evidence to support this claim, but RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement applies[[/note]], there is a growing trend for former conscripts to report sick with PTSD-like symptoms parellel to those which affected American servicemen after Vietnam. There is also a growing conscientious objection movement in Israel, of young people refusing military service in protest at their country's policies in the West Bank. Counselling and support services for former conscripts in israel are reporting many cases of ex-soldiers with a deep sense of guilt for their actions in Gaza and the West Bank.
* Red Latvian Riflemen and later Latvian Legionaries had a reputation of following any order they were given. Sometimes it would be glorified in history - like throwing themselves to their deaths at Machine gun Hill (take a gamble on how it got its name) or not moving an inch despite shelling and gas at Naaves sala (Island of Death) during WWI. During Russian revolution the very same people were so feared by the population that there was a saying - "If you need an executioner find a Latvian."
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* Every war, ever, has examples of this show up on all sides. Some have more, some have less, but no one has none. The amount varies widely depending on a whole range of factors, with the most important one usually being whether such behavior is shunned, ignored, or outright encouraged by military higher-ups and politicians (with countless examples of all three options). Scientifically tested [[http://www.cracked.com/article_16239_5-psychological-experiments-that-prove-humanity-doomed.html here, especially the second page]]. Also, relatedly, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobo_doll_experiment this article]].
* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7cZuhqSzzc This video]] seems to go more in depth about the first kind.
* The UsefulNotes/ThirtyYearsWar (1618-1648) produced thousands as mercenary armies pillaged for three decades across the length and breadth of Germany.
** The soldiers of the Swedish Empire especially, had a reputation for this. The [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwedentrunk Schwedentrunk is a legacy of this.]] It goes beyond the UsefulNotes/ThirtyYearsWar as well. In the UsefulNotes/GreatNorthernWar, Swedish soldiers supposedly [[BrainBleach once filled a womans genitals with explosives and then lit the fuse.]] It should be noted however, that the only source for the latter is the book '' Carolus Rex : hans liv i sanning återberättat''[[note]]"Carolus Rex: His life in truth, recounted."[[/note]] by Ernst Brunner, which was widely panned for its historical inaccuracies, that verged on the slanderous.
* UsefulNotes/WorldWarII had many of these kind of soldiers, especially on the Eastern Front, where ''both'' sides (the [[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons Wehrmacht]] and the [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Red Army]]) were notorious for having these. [[FridgeHorror Both Wehrmacht and Red Army]] were based on {{conscription}}, so type 3 was omnipresent. During WWII and the Second Sino-Japanese war the [[ImperialJapan Imperial Japanese Army]] also did some [[MoralEventHorizon horrible]] things to Chinese civilians and any soldiers unfortunate enough to be captured by the Japanese.
** [[FridgeHorror Also the Imperial Japanese army]] was based on {{conscription}}. Ditto for Type 3.
* The penal battalions (''Shtrafbat'') of both Germans and Soviets. UpToEleven variant of Type 3.
* 36th Waffen-Grenadier Division ''Dirlewanger'' was composed of Type 2 criminals, with commander Oskar Dirlewanger himself being a convicted sexual offender. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even fellow Waffen-SS troops hated them and shunned them]].
* The participants of the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre My Lai Massacre]].
** The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program Phoenix Program]] of the same time seemed aimed to create thousands of examples of this trope for the war effort, with tens or even hundreds of thousands of victims, alive or dead.
* This breed of soldier seems to be very common in Colombia's various military/paramilitary organizations. As [[TheWarNerd the]] [[http://exiledonline.com/colombia-a-hundred-years-of-slaughtertude/ War Nerd]] puts it: "''They kill in uniform or out, home or away, on the street or the battlefield. Equal Opportunity Slaughter: men, women, children, dogs -- if it moves, they'll kill it. For any reason. For no reason. For money, for fun, for the Revolution, for the Counter-Revolution, for practice.''"
* Also terrifyingly common in el drugo el waro in Mexico. Epitomized by an incident in 2014 when Zeta cartel members massacred 64 students for the lulz. Yes, they killed sixty-four people who were completely uninvolved -- they weren't rivals, snitches, police, military, militia, or uncooperative officials. They were just regular university students.
* Many examples, Type 1 and 2, from Argentina's Dirty War, which took place from 1976-83. Under [[GeneralRipper the junta]], torture, kidnappings, and mass murder were institutionalized, and carried out by members of the Argentine armed forces. Some, such as [[ShellShockedVeteran Adolfo]] [[TheAtoner Scilingo]] have repented, and asked to be imprisoned. Others, like [[TortureTechnician Julian the Turk]] have not, and indeed seem very proud of their achievements. At least 30,000 people were killed, by leaders who claimed to be protecting them from the DirtyCommunists.
-->'''[[GeneralRipper General Iberico St. Jean]], governor of Buenos Aires:''' First we will kill all the subversives; then we will kill all their collaborators; then their sympathisers; then those who remained indifferent; and finally, we’ll kill the undecided.
* Osvaldo Romo, among other members of the Chilean DINA (secret police during the Pinochet dictatorship). But Romo stands out because [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsUmU2aAVbY he gave an interview where he goes into detail bragging about how he tortured prisoners]].
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse The Abu Ghraib prison guards]].
** [[http://fastlad.blogspot.com/2006/07/like-squashing-ant.html "Over here, killing people is like squashing an ant."]]
** If you read his interview with a reporter just before a [[MoralEventHorizon nasty incident]] that landed him in prison, he is a Type 3 example.
* Italian, and Belgian, soldiers were caught abusing Somali civilians during the peacekeeping and humanitarian operations there in late 1992/early 1993. The Italian soldiers [[http://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/14/world/photos-of-troops-abusing-somalis-in-93-shock-italians.html also photographed what they did]], with methods of torture and abuse comparable to Abu Ghraib a decade later.
** It took a while for the UN to realise that sending soldiers as peacekeepers to countries which were formerly colonies of that nation was not a good idea. Those Italian soldiers would have been sons or grandsons of men who fought to conquer and "pacify" the nation formerly known as Italian East Africa (now a part of Somalia) and who, under Mussolini, fought there with great brutality to the natives. They might well have seen it as picking up where they left off in 1941, or "getting even" for historical atrocities perpetrated on Italian soldiers, who were captured by natives not predisposed to be nice to their prisoners. Meanwhile the natives would have seen the old hated colonial power returning under a new guise. Old bitter memories die hard on both sides. Belgian military atrocities in its former African colonies are also well documented. A European nation which for its size was over-represented in UN peacekeeping forces in Africa was the Irish Republic: unique in Western Europe for having been a colonialised country, rather then an imperialist coloniser. Irish soldiers, for this reason, tended to be popular and well-respected.
** Speaking of the [[UsefulNotes/UnitedNations UN]], in the early 1960's the Swedish army participated in battle for the first time in 140 years, when 6000 soldiers participated in the peacekeeping operations in Congo. This operation was controversial since it was the first time that the UN went from conducting a "peacekeeping" operation, to a [[DeadlyEuphemism "peacemaking" one.]] [[note]]The UN participated as the aggressor in outright battles, in other words.[[/note]] One of these Swedes was a soldier and combat photographer named Gert Gustafsson. He told several stories to the press upon returning home, about how the Swedish army supposedly committed war crimes. This blew up, but a journalist did some investigating and found out that ''ALL'' stories about alleged war crimes, came from Gert Gustafsson. Turns out he had developed PTSD after being forced to kill child soldiers in self defense, and had also been subjected to a [[KickTheDog mock execution while being a POW.]] After taking therapy, he also found out that he had repressed memories of giving a MercyKill to a Congolese fighter. This combined with his guilt over his self-admitted racist attitude to the Congolese civilians in those days led him to [[FalseConfession confess to anything.]]
* A group of U.S. soldiers were recently put on trial for deliberately killing Afghani civilians and planting evidence to make it look like self-defense. Not only that, but they also threatened several members of their unit that might have told in order to keep them quiet. Threats included purposefully dropping a weight on them while lifting weights.
* More recently, David Motari, subject of a [[MemeticMutation memetic]] video where he [[KickTheDog chucks a live puppy]] [[ForTheEvulz off a cliff.]] The Marines were not pleased.
* Spanish "Conquistadors". There are chronicles of them (from a Spanish priest, no less) that tell how they would rip children from their mother's breast, cut them while still alive and feed them to the war dogs.
* Enlisting in the armed forces has become popular among white supremacists and inner city gangs who hope to acquire knowledge of military tactics which they could apply in their criminal activities. The problem has gotten so severe that recruits are now examined for gang tattoos that might identify a past or present association with said groups, and more than one tattoo, gang-affiliated or not, is grounds for being barred from recruiting.
* Finland ignored most drug prohibiting treaties or paid them only lip service after WWII. So many soldiers [[TheseHandsHaveKilled had lost]] their [[ShellShockedVeteran mental balance]] during the wars that ignoring drug prohibition was a way to keep them from freaking up. Well until the 1970s most of the [[FridgeHorror drill instructors for conscripts were war veterans]]...
* As in the case of Argentina's Dirty War, Guatemala's long, long civil war (1960-1996) produced many of these, as the military junta became more and more brutal in its dealings with the populace. Soldiers carried out acts of mass politicide, and ethnic cleansing and genocide of the indigenous Mayan population became a feature of the war. Of the 200,000+ people who died in the war, over 90 percent are believed to have died at the hands of the Guatemalan Army; this does not even include the 45-50,000 people who were "disappeared". To pick one particularly gruesome example at the village of Los Dos Erres, the army buried civilians alive, dashed the heads of infants against walls, and kept the village's women as prisoners so they could repeatedly rape them. The soldiers involved ran the full gamut of types, from I-IV.
%%* During Brazil's military dictatorship, the soldiers would torture dissidents. By itself that makes them sociopathic. Wait until you learn that they also tortured [[WouldHurtAChild THE BABIES]] of dissidents.
* The stresses involved in policing the West Bank/Occupied Territories are taking a heavy toll of conscripts in the [[Usefulnotes/{{Israel}} Israeli]] army. Even leaving aside alleged cases of brutality and bad behaviour against the Palestinian population[[note]]There is lots of objective third-party evidence to support this claim, but RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement applies[[/note]], there is a growing trend for former conscripts to report sick with PTSD-like symptoms parellel to those which affected American servicemen after Vietnam. There is also a growing conscientious objection movement in Israel, of young people refusing military service in protest at their country's policies in the West Bank. Counselling and support services for former conscripts in israel are reporting many cases of ex-soldiers with a deep sense of guilt for their actions in Gaza and the West Bank.
* Red Latvian Riflemen and later Latvian Legionaries had a reputation of following any order they were given. Sometimes it would be glorified in history - like throwing themselves to their deaths at Machine gun Hill (take a gamble on how it got its name) or not moving an inch despite shelling and gas at Naaves sala (Island of Death) during WWI. During Russian revolution the very same people were so feared by the population that there was a saying - "If you need an executioner find a Latvian."
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26th Dec '16 4:39:47 AM MrThorfan64
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** [[AxeCrazy Gregor Clegane]] is a solid example of Type 2. He only fights under Tywin for a chance to hurt people, and when he's not soldiering he's murdering and raping people for his own amusement. He seems to have been this before he became a solider, as a child he burnt his brother's face when they tried playing with a toy he didn't want anyway, and is rumoured to have murdered his father and sister. The men under him, such as the jolly but cruel Chiswyck, the AffablyEvil Raff "the Sweetling", and TortureTechnician "The Tickler" also count. Averted slightly by Shitmouth, a foul-mouthed fellow who treats the prisoners slightly more kindly, giving them food if they ask.

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** [[AxeCrazy Gregor Clegane]] is a solid example of Type 2. He only fights under Tywin for a chance to hurt people, and when he's not soldiering he's murdering and raping people for his own amusement. He seems to have been this before he became a solider, as a child he burnt his brother's face when they tried playing with a toy he didn't want anyway, and is rumoured rumored to have murdered his father and sister. The men under him, such as the jolly but cruel rapist Chiswyck, the AffablyEvil Raff "the Sweetling", and TortureTechnician "The Tickler" also count. Averted slightly by Shitmouth, a foul-mouthed fellow who treats the prisoners slightly more kindly, giving them extra food if they ask.
14th Dec '16 12:22:15 PM KizunaTallis
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* Markus Jung, aka Siegfried, from ''ComicBook/{{Uber}}'' is a full-on Type 2, with a few smatterings of Type 1. He takes [[PsychopathicManchild a lot of glee]] in slaughtering everything in his path with his new superpowers. Heck, in his backstory, he committed his first murder as a [[EnfanteTerrible little boy]]! The Type 1 stuff comes largely from him being a fully indoctrinated [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]] (his first victim from the aforementioned childhood murder was a Jew). Even his comrades [[NobleDemon Siegfried]] and [[VengeanceFeelsEmpty Sieglinde]] are [[EvenEvilHasStandards disgusted with him]].

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* Markus Jung, aka Siegfried, from ''ComicBook/{{Uber}}'' is a full-on Type 2, with a few smatterings of Type 1. He takes [[PsychopathicManchild a lot of glee]] in slaughtering everything in his path with his new superpowers. Heck, in his backstory, he committed his first murder as a [[EnfanteTerrible little boy]]! The Type 1 stuff comes largely from him being a fully indoctrinated [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]] (his first victim from the aforementioned childhood murder was a Jew). Even his comrades [[NobleDemon Siegfried]] Siegmund]] and [[VengeanceFeelsEmpty Sieglinde]] are [[EvenEvilHasStandards disgusted with him]].
13th Dec '16 6:27:55 PM KizunaTallis
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* Markus Jung, aka Siegfried, from ''ComicBook/{{Uber}}'' is a full-on Type 2, with a few smatterings of Type 1. He takes [[PsychopathicManchild a lot of glee]] in slaughtering everything in his path with his new superpowers. Heck, in his backstory, he committed his first murder as a [[EnfanteTerrible little boy]]! The Type 1 stuff comes largely from him being a fully indoctrinated [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]] (his first victim from the aforementioned childhood murder was a Jew). Even his comrades [[NobleDemon Siegfried]] and [[VengeanceFeelsEmpty Sieglinde]] are [[EvenEvilHasStandards disgusted with him]].



** Many of the heroic characters are straight up Type 4s themselves. Marcus is a ShellShockedVeteran who is so utterly broken by the horrible things he's seen and had to do throughout the Conversion War, it's a miracle he's as level headed as he is. Stephan meanwhile [[OnlySaneMan does have it together a bit better than most]] but he too has many of his own problems. TCB!Trixie also carries quite a lot of baggage herself in due part to her fears of BecomingTheMask with regards to the alternate personalities she uses in her spy work becoming fully realized and becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters as ruthless as the people she fights against]].

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** Many of the heroic characters are straight up Type 4s of the fourth type themselves. Marcus is a ShellShockedVeteran who is so utterly broken by the horrible things he's seen and had to do throughout the Conversion War, it's a miracle he's as level headed level-headed as he is. Stephan meanwhile [[OnlySaneMan does have it together a bit better than most]] but he too has many of his own problems. TCB!Trixie also carries quite a lot of baggage herself in due part to her fears of BecomingTheMask with regards to the alternate personalities she uses in her spy work becoming fully realized and becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters as ruthless as the people she fights against]].
5th Dec '16 6:47:25 AM Dravencour
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* The Black Dog Knights from ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' are an army of the worst rapists, murderers and thieves that Midland has to offer. They're led by Wyald, a real piece of work of an Apostle who enjoys doing horrible things to people for his own enjoyment.

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* The Black Dog Knights from ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' are an army of the worst rapists, murderers and thieves that Midland has to offer. They're led by Wyald, [[PsychoForHire Wyald]], a real piece of work of an Apostle who enjoys doing horrible things to people for his own enjoyment.
5th Dec '16 6:46:14 AM Dravencour
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* ''Manga/KagerouNostalgia'': The vast majority of the soldiers in [[EvilOverlord General]] [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating Kiyotaka]] [[TheStarscream Kuroda's]] employ fit into this category. Given that they're sent into battle alongside demons, with orders to butcher and kidnap as many civillians as possible, this is more or less a part of the job description.

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* ''Manga/KagerouNostalgia'': The vast majority of the soldiers in [[EvilOverlord General]] [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating Kiyotaka]] [[TheStarscream Kuroda's]] employ fit into this category. Given that they're sent into battle alongside demons, with orders to butcher and kidnap as many civillians civilians as possible, this is more or less a part of the job description.


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* The Black Dog Knights from ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' are an army of the worst rapists, murderers and thieves that Midland has to offer. They're led by Wyald, a real piece of work of an Apostle who enjoys doing horrible things to people for his own enjoyment.
15th Nov '16 9:48:11 AM CrutchCricket
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**Alloran, type 4. He used to be a normal young Andalite, even a prankster- until the Yeerks rose up and slaughtered his comrades. This embittered him to the point of becoming a GeneralRipper, unleashing the quantum virus on the Hork-Bajir homeworld and even after his subsequent disgrace is seen executing hostages and trying to force Elfangor to kill thousands of helpless Yeerks. He is so far gone, that even when everything goes to hell, instead of helping secure the [[TimeMachine Time Matrix]] he spends his days in hiding, morphing and demorphing, watching the Yeerk transport for the chance to finish his slaughter. Ironically he seems broken of this ''again'' after decades of slavery as Visser Three's host.
**Aloth, another Andalite, is revealed to have been convicted of selling organs on the battlefield, a war crime, and is generally cold and ruthless (apart from humorless jokes), even for an assassin.
**Carger from the Hork-Bajir Chronicles, one of the first Yeerks to promote himself to sub-visser is said to be so ruthless and brutal that even a young Esplin (later [[GeneralRipper Visser]] [[InsaneAdmiral Three]]) remarks on it. Possibly subverted as he runs away when ambushed and is never seen again.
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