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22nd Apr '17 4:23:20 AM erforce
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** We later learn in the mini series ''Punisher Born'' which chronicles Frank Castles final tour in Vietnam that Castle's Marine outpost was ''rife'' with these. The vast majority of the Marines are depicted as either clear cut psychopaths, amoral conscripts, or jingoistic sociopaths-- half of whom are implied to be addicted to heroin-- with a commanding officer who is alcoholic, broken, and knows full well that the war is a lost cause. With the young narrator of the story Stevie Goodwin explicitly stated as an unwilling conscript who wanted nothing to do with the war and whose only desire is to return home safely, but at the same time realizes that sticking with Frank Castle and his platoon is his best bet at getting home in one piece.

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** We later learn in the mini series ''Punisher Born'' ''ComicBook/ThePunisherBorn'' which chronicles Frank Castles final tour in Vietnam that Castle's Marine outpost was ''rife'' with these. The vast majority of the Marines are depicted as either clear cut psychopaths, amoral conscripts, or jingoistic sociopaths-- half of whom are implied to be addicted to heroin-- with a commanding officer who is alcoholic, broken, and knows full well that the war is a lost cause. With the young narrator of the story Stevie Goodwin explicitly stated as an unwilling conscript who wanted nothing to do with the war and whose only desire is to return home safely, but at the same time realizes that sticking with Frank Castle and his platoon is his best bet at getting home in one piece.
14th Mar '17 5:43:54 PM HasturHasturHastur
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# '''The Psychopath:''' Then there's the second kind, the PsychoForHire who just joined up ''for'' the [[RapePillageAndBurn plunder, rape and massacring of civilians]] and doesn't care whose banner they're doing it under. If he wasn't in the army he'd be a SerialKiller or mass murderer, or (more likely) someone with a deep core of anger who will eventually take out said anger on a convenient target and wind up on the evening news. Some will be more fixated on [[BloodKnight enemy combatants for the thrill of besting them]], but civilians can be amusing too. Others may just hate their lives and the world and use enemy soldiers and civilians as outlets. He's also the most likely to get himself killed; jingos usually have like-minded comrades who will help save their asses, unwilling conscripts are solely motivated by their own survival, and broken soldiers still take pains to stay alive so that they can keep helping their comrades along. He's also the most likely to wind up getting himself killed; if he doesn't do something suicidally stupid in a moment of anger or bloodlust, his own comrades are likely to kill him because he's a liability, a ticking time bomb who may wind up turning on them, or just out of disgust if his actions are truly beyond the pale.

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# '''The Psychopath:''' Then there's the second kind, the PsychoForHire who just joined up ''for'' the [[RapePillageAndBurn plunder, rape and massacring of civilians]] and doesn't care whose banner they're doing it under. If he wasn't in the army he'd be a SerialKiller or mass murderer, or (more likely) someone with a deep core of anger who will eventually take out said anger on a convenient target and wind up on the evening news. Some will be more fixated on [[BloodKnight enemy combatants for the thrill of besting them]], but civilians can be amusing too. Others may just hate their lives and the world and use enemy soldiers and civilians as outlets. He's also the most likely to get himself killed; jingos usually have like-minded comrades who will help save their asses, unwilling conscripts are solely motivated by their own survival, and broken soldiers still take pains to stay alive so that they can keep helping their comrades along. He's also along; as for the most likely to wind up getting himself killed; psycho, if he doesn't do something suicidally stupid in a moment of anger or bloodlust, his own comrades are likely to kill him because he's a liability, a ticking time bomb who may wind up turning on them, or just out of disgust if his actions are truly beyond the pale.
14th Mar '17 4:40:25 PM HasturHasturHastur
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# '''The Psychopath:''' Then there's the second kind, the PsychoForHire who just joined up ''for'' the [[RapePillageAndBurn plunder, rape and massacring of civilians]] and doesn't care whose banner they're doing it under. If he wasn't in the army he'd be a SerialKiller or mass murderer. Some will be more fixated on [[BloodKnight enemy combatants for the thrill of besting them]], but civilians can be amusing too. He's also the most likely to get himself killed; jingos usually have like-minded comrades who will help save their asses, unwilling conscripts are solely motivated by their own survival, and broken soldiers still take pains to stay alive so that they can keep helping their comrades along. Psychopaths on the other hand are mentally ill/disabled and literally cannot comprehend their own mortality (in anything but an academic sense). Even if they don't get taken out by the enemy, there's also a fairly strong likelihood that their own comrades will off them [[EvenEvilHasStandards out of disgust]] or (more likely) [[PragmaticVillainy because they're a liability who's just as if not more likely to kill them than the enemy.]]

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# '''The Psychopath:''' Then there's the second kind, the PsychoForHire who just joined up ''for'' the [[RapePillageAndBurn plunder, rape and massacring of civilians]] and doesn't care whose banner they're doing it under. If he wasn't in the army he'd be a SerialKiller or mass murderer.murderer, or (more likely) someone with a deep core of anger who will eventually take out said anger on a convenient target and wind up on the evening news. Some will be more fixated on [[BloodKnight enemy combatants for the thrill of besting them]], but civilians can be amusing too. Others may just hate their lives and the world and use enemy soldiers and civilians as outlets. He's also the most likely to get himself killed; jingos usually have like-minded comrades who will help save their asses, unwilling conscripts are solely motivated by their own survival, and broken soldiers still take pains to stay alive so that they can keep helping their comrades along. Psychopaths on the other hand are mentally ill/disabled and literally cannot comprehend their own mortality (in anything but an academic sense). Even if they don't get taken out by the enemy, there's He's also the most likely to wind up getting himself killed; if he doesn't do something suicidally stupid in a fairly strong likelihood that their moment of anger or bloodlust, his own comrades will off them [[EvenEvilHasStandards out of disgust]] or (more likely) [[PragmaticVillainy because they're a liability who's just as if not more are likely to kill them than him because he's a liability, a ticking time bomb who may wind up turning on them, or just out of disgust if his actions are truly beyond the enemy.]]pale.
1st Mar '17 1:52:47 PM marcoasalazarm
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* ''Film/DejaVu'': Carroll is a subversion--he aced every single test to enter the U.S. Army, except the psychological profiling, and thus was not allowed to enter. Still, his combination of skills and honest belief that blowing up a ferry with 300 people (that he also believes were fated to die--they ''were'' on the ferry, after all) in the middle of Mardi Gras is a necessary sacrifice so America goes into a tougher stance on terrorism makes him a perfect example of the 'jingoistic' type of soldier.
28th Feb '17 2:47:24 PM WillBGood
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* The "Kanonen-Song" from ''Die Dreigroschenoper'' has a refrain about soldiers turning people into beefsteak tartare.

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* The "Kanonen-Song" from ''Die Dreigroschenoper'' ''Theater/TheThreepennyOpera'' has a refrain about soldiers turning people into beefsteak tartare.
28th Feb '17 2:16:32 PM WillBGood
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** We later learn in the mini series ''Punisher Born'' which chronicles Frank Castles final tour in Vietnam that Castle's Marine outpost was ''rife'' with these. With the vast majority of the Marine's being depicted as either clear cut psychopaths, amoral conscripts, or jingoistic sociopaths. Half of whom are implied to be addicted to heroin, and whose commanding officer is an alcoholic broken soldier who knows full well that the war is a lost cause. With the young narrator of the story Stevie Goodwin explicitly stated as an unwilling conscript who wanted nothing to do with the war and who's only desire is to return home safely, but at the same time realizes that sticking with Frank Castle and his platoon is his best bet at getting home in one piece.

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** We later learn in the mini series ''Punisher Born'' which chronicles Frank Castles final tour in Vietnam that Castle's Marine outpost was ''rife'' with these. With the The vast majority of the Marine's being Marines are depicted as either clear cut psychopaths, amoral conscripts, or jingoistic sociopaths. Half sociopaths-- half of whom are implied to be addicted to heroin, and whose heroin-- with a commanding officer is an alcoholic broken soldier who is alcoholic, broken, and knows full well that the war is a lost cause. With the young narrator of the story Stevie Goodwin explicitly stated as an unwilling conscript who wanted nothing to do with the war and who's whose only desire is to return home safely, but at the same time realizes that sticking with Frank Castle and his platoon is his best bet at getting home in one piece.
25th Feb '17 8:14:09 PM Panzerkatzen
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* The [[TheEmpire Combine]] [[GasMaskMooks Overwatch Soldiers]] in ''Videogame/{{Half-Life 2}}''. Heavily brainwashed and [[OrganicTechnology surgically altered]], they're [[LossOfIdentity treated as tools]] rather than living beings, even being stored unconscious on racks when not in use. Combine Soldiers speak with a rough monotone voice, and only do so to relay relevant tactical information to fellow Soldiers. In the field, they show little-to-no emotion when killing dissidents or reporting squad casualties. The only time any emotion is hinted at is when they're being threatened with [[FateWorseThanDeath off-world reassignment]].[[/folder]]
14th Jan '17 12:35:50 PM ACW
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*''Manga/DogSoldier'' has Col. Harry, Hiba's former commanding officer.
10th Jan '17 10:53:38 PM DeepRed
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# '''The Jingo:''' First, the kind who are swept up in PatrioticFervor or similar and are doing it because they're [[KnightTemplar convinced their cause gives them the right to be as brutal as they please]] (racism, {{fantastic|Racism}} or otherwise might be involved). [[PayEvilUntoEvil They might think the enemy genuinely are scum who deserve whatever is visited on them]] (or slightly more likely, they will not believe/not care about this but use it as an excuse anyway). May be a SociopathicHero. Very, very fond of DisproportionateRetribution; one of his comrades is worth at least ten of theirs, and it doesn't matter if they're noncombatants or not. If one of his buddies dies, the likelihood that he'll randomly shoot some civilians on the street just to MakeAnExampleOfThem is quite high.

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# '''The Jingo:''' First, the kind who are swept up in PatrioticFervor or similar [[MyCountryRightOrWrong similar]] and are doing it because they're [[KnightTemplar convinced their cause gives them the right to be as brutal as they please]] (racism, {{fantastic|Racism}} or otherwise might be involved). [[PayEvilUntoEvil They might think the enemy genuinely are scum who deserve whatever is visited on them]] (or slightly more likely, they will not believe/not care about this but use it as an excuse anyway). May be a SociopathicHero. Very, very fond of DisproportionateRetribution; one of his comrades is worth at least ten of theirs, and it doesn't matter if they're noncombatants or not. If one of his buddies dies, the likelihood that he'll randomly shoot some civilians on the street just to MakeAnExampleOfThem is quite high.
5th Jan '17 8:53:18 AM Hanz
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* Slightly subverted with Trevor Phillips of ''Videogame/GrandTheftAutoV'', whose psychopathic nature meant that despite completing his training as a helicopter pilot for the Royal Canadian Air Force, he failed the psychological evaluation which prevented him from actually joining.
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