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28th Feb '17 1:59:45 PM Allronix
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Why someone would target the descendants rather than the one who originally did the wrong tends to vary, but it's usually due to the original offender not being alive enough to go after and make suffer. This is especially true of villains who are immortal or undead, or many a SealedEvilInACan, whose hatreds can take years if not decades or centuries to fester and grow. More often than not, this form of revenge is pursued by villains rather than heroes, since targeting someone other than the person who actually committed the wrong, and who may not have anything to do with it aside from being descended from the person who did is a good way to wind up on the wrong side of the RuleOfEmpathy.

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Why someone would target the descendants rather than the one who originally did the wrong tends to vary, but it's usually due to the original offender not being alive enough to go after and make suffer. Or that the descendant benefitted (or still benefits) from his ancestors' crimes; the money grandfather stole allowed the father to go to law school, which allowed son to grow up in comfortable circumstances; therefore, son deserves to be punished for grandfather's theft. This is especially true of villains who are immortal or undead, or many a SealedEvilInACan, whose hatreds can take years if not decades or centuries to fester and grow. More often than not, this form of revenge is pursued by villains rather than heroes, since targeting someone other than the person who actually committed the wrong, and who may not have anything to do with it aside from being descended from the person who did is a good way to wind up on the wrong side of the RuleOfEmpathy.
17th Feb '17 4:02:18 PM creader
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* One really nasty example of a one-man vendetta is Rasputin in ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}'' who obsesses over murdering the title character, despite her having done nothing to earn his ire. Unlike other cases he wasn't even victimised and there was no justification for his hatred. He took his anger at her father the Czar for offending him and denying him power, to an extent where he wanted to end his bloodline and annihilate the Romanov dynasty. DisproportionateRetribution at its finest.
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* One really nasty example of a one-man vendetta is Rasputin in ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}'' who obsesses over murdering the title character, despite her having done nothing to earn his ire. Unlike other cases he wasn't even victimised and there was no justification for his hatred. He took his anger at her father the Czar for offending him and denying him power, to an extent where he wanted to end his bloodline and annihilate the Romanov dynasty. DisproportionateRetribution at its finest.
12th Feb '17 2:56:35 PM rc48177
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*** Played painfully straight along with RevengebeforeReason with the Dwarfs of WarhammerFantasy, who hold grudges for as long as it takes to settle them, no matter if everyone related to the grudge is long dead. A great example being when an Empire noble hired a group of Dwarf masons to build a massive castle, and after all that hard work paid them. The problem? He shorted them, by how much you ask... 2 & 1/2 coins(which is hinted to be accidental). The grudge was written down in the Great Book, and decades later a massive throng of dwarfs marched down to demand retribution from the Noble's decedent, who to him just seemed like a massive army had appeared on his doorsteps demanding blood. HilarityEnsues

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*** Played painfully straight along with RevengebeforeReason with [[RevengebeforeReason Revenge before Reason]] by the Dwarfs of WarhammerFantasy, who hold grudges for as long as it takes to settle them, no matter if everyone related to the grudge is long dead. A great example being when an Empire noble hired a group of Dwarf masons to build a massive castle, and after all that hard work paid them. The problem? He shorted them, by how much you ask... 2 & 1/2 coins(which is hinted to be accidental). The grudge was written down in the Great Book, and decades later a massive throng of dwarfs marched down to demand retribution from the Noble's decedent, who to him just seemed like a massive army had appeared on his doorsteps demanding blood. HilarityEnsues
12th Feb '17 2:54:36 PM rc48177
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*** Played painfully straight with the Dwarfs of WarhammerFantasy, who hold grudges for as long as it takes to settle them. A great example being when an Empire noble hired a group of Dwarf masons to build a massive castle, and after all that hard work paid them. The problem? HE shorted them, by how much you ask... 2 & 1/2 coins(which is hinted to be accidental). The grudge was written down in the Great Book, and decades later a massive throng of dwarfs marched down to demand retribution from the Noble's decedent, who to him just seemed like a massive army had a ppeaered on his doorsteps demanding blood. HilarityEnsues

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*** Played painfully straight along with RevengebeforeReason with the Dwarfs of WarhammerFantasy, who hold grudges for as long as it takes to settle them.them, no matter if everyone related to the grudge is long dead. A great example being when an Empire noble hired a group of Dwarf masons to build a massive castle, and after all that hard work paid them. The problem? HE He shorted them, by how much you ask... 2 & 1/2 coins(which is hinted to be accidental). The grudge was written down in the Great Book, and decades later a massive throng of dwarfs marched down to demand retribution from the Noble's decedent, who to him just seemed like a massive army had a ppeaered appeared on his doorsteps demanding blood. HilarityEnsues
12th Feb '17 2:52:35 PM rc48177
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*** Played painfully straight with the Dwarfs of WarhammerFantasy, who hold grudges for as long as it takes to settle them. A great example being when an Empire noble hired a group of Dwarf masons to build a massive castle, and after all that hard work paid them. The problem? HE shorted them, by how much you ask... 2 1/2 coins(which is hinted to be accidental). The grudge was written down in the Great Book, and decades later a massive throng of dwarfs marched down to demand retribution from the Noble's decedent, who to him just seemed like a massive army had a ppeaered on his doorsteps demanding blood. HilarityEnsues

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*** Played painfully straight with the Dwarfs of WarhammerFantasy, who hold grudges for as long as it takes to settle them. A great example being when an Empire noble hired a group of Dwarf masons to build a massive castle, and after all that hard work paid them. The problem? HE shorted them, by how much you ask... 2 & 1/2 coins(which is hinted to be accidental). The grudge was written down in the Great Book, and decades later a massive throng of dwarfs marched down to demand retribution from the Noble's decedent, who to him just seemed like a massive army had a ppeaered on his doorsteps demanding blood. HilarityEnsues
12th Feb '17 2:51:31 PM rc48177
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*** Played painfully straight with the Dwarfs of WarhammerFantasy, who hold grudges for as long as it takes to settle them. A great example being when an Empire noble hired a group of Dwarf masons to build a massive castle, and after all that hard work paid them. The problem? HE shorted them, by how much you ask... 2 1/2 coins(which is hinted to be accidental). The grudge was written down in the Great Book, and decades later a massive throng of dwarfs marched down to demand retribution from the Noble's decedent, who to him just seemed like a massive army had a ppeaered on his doorsteps demanding blood. Hilarityensued

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*** Played painfully straight with the Dwarfs of WarhammerFantasy, who hold grudges for as long as it takes to settle them. A great example being when an Empire noble hired a group of Dwarf masons to build a massive castle, and after all that hard work paid them. The problem? HE shorted them, by how much you ask... 2 1/2 coins(which is hinted to be accidental). The grudge was written down in the Great Book, and decades later a massive throng of dwarfs marched down to demand retribution from the Noble's decedent, who to him just seemed like a massive army had a ppeaered on his doorsteps demanding blood. Hilarityensued HilarityEnsues
12th Feb '17 2:50:38 PM rc48177
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*** Played painfully straight with the Dwarfs of WarhammerFantasy, who hold grudges for as long as it takes to settle them. A great example being when an Empire noble hired a group of Dwarf masons to build a massive castle, and after all that hard work paid them. The problem? HE shorted them, by how much you ask... 2 1/2 coins(which is hinted to be accidental). The grudge was written down in the Great Book, and decades later a massive throng of dwarfs marched down to demand retribution from the Noble's decedent, who to him just seemed like a massive army had a ppeaered on his doorsteps demanding blood. Hilarityensued
12th Feb '17 2:43:14 PM rc48177
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* The Slave Trade. Quite often, an apology is made which goes something along the lines of "I'm sorry that my great-grandfather enslaved your great-grandfather." Understandably so, as this is the truth.

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* The Slave Trade. Quite often, an apology is made which goes something along the lines of "I'm sorry that my great-grandfather enslaved your great-grandfather." Understandably so, as this is the truth.truth, though this practice has morphed in recent years to more about civil rights treatments, which many still feel aren't completely equal. Unfortunately this has become FlameBait because of differing opinions on who's fault everything seems to be.
7th Feb '17 8:38:49 AM profviral
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* A complicated case with ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse''. His mother, Rose Quartz, lead the Crystal Gems on their rebellion [[spoiler:against Homeworld so Earth wouldn't have been blown up. However, Steven's great image of her is [[BrokenPedestal broken]] when he's learned of some the questionable things she did to save Earth]]. To give birth to Steven, Rose gave up her form and Steven inherited her gem and since Gems' forms are essentially projections from their gem, Rose's enemies are convinced they're getting revenge on her for the rebellion [[spoiler:but mostly for shattering Pink Diamond]] (said it was complicated).

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* A complicated case with ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse''. His mother, Rose Quartz, lead the Crystal Gems on their rebellion [[spoiler:against Homeworld so to save Earth wouldn't have been blown up. and her comrades. However, Steven's great image of her is [[BrokenPedestal broken]] when he's learned of some the questionable things she did to save Earth]]. did]]. To give birth to Steven, Rose gave up her form and Steven inherited her gem and since Gems' forms are essentially projections from their gem, Rose's enemies are convinced they're getting revenge on her for the rebellion [[spoiler:but mostly mainly for shattering Pink Diamond]] (said Diamond]]. Told you it was complicated).complicated.
7th Feb '17 6:07:36 AM profviral
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* A complicated case with ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse''. His mother, Rose Quartz, lead the Crystal Gems on their rebellion [[spoiler:against Homeworld so Earth wouldn't have been blown up. However, Steven's great image of her is [[BrokenPedestal broken]] when he's learned of some the questionable things she did to save Earth]]. To give birth to Steven, Rose gave up her form and Steven inherited her gem and since Gems' forms are essentially projections from their gem, Rose's enemies are convinced they're getting revenge on her for the rebellion [[spoiler:but mostly for shattering Pink Diamond]] (said it was complicated).
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