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12th Sep '17 2:08:37 AM Carnel
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* American submarines and aircraft would occasionally do this in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII if they sank a Japanese ship near Japanese-held or contested islands, on the grounds that Allied troops would have to later kill them anyway. Early in the war, they tried to rescue survivors from Japanese ships that sank or aircraft that were shot down, but after enough of the survivors refused help or tried to kill their would-be rescuers, preferring to go down fighting rather than be taken prisoner, the Americans lost interest in helping them. A regrettable case of IDidWhatIHadToDo or a serious case of MoralDissonance, take your pick. For their part, the Japanese would often execute rescued American fliers who were shot down over Japanese fleets, sometimes immediately after fishing them out of the water, and more than a quarter of captured westerners died in Japanese captivity. They were also known to shell life rafts or dense patches of sailors abandoning ships.

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* American submarines and aircraft would occasionally do this in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII if they sank a Japanese ship near Japanese-held or contested islands, on the grounds that Allied troops would have to later kill them anyway. Early in the war, they tried to rescue survivors from Japanese ships that sank or aircraft that were shot down, but after enough of the survivors refused help or tried to [[FarmerAndTheViper kill their would-be rescuers, rescuers]], preferring to go down fighting rather than be taken prisoner, the Americans lost interest in helping them. A regrettable case of IDidWhatIHadToDo or a serious case of MoralDissonance, take your pick. For their part, the Japanese would often execute rescued American fliers who were shot down over Japanese fleets, sometimes immediately after fishing them out of the water, and more than a quarter of captured westerners died in Japanese captivity. They were also known to shell life rafts or dense patches of sailors abandoning ships.
9th Jul '17 8:54:43 AM nombretomado
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* German U-boats attacking Allied shipping during [[WorldWarTwo World War II]] were accused of this on occasion. Hitler made a strongly worded suggestion towards this end [[EvenEvilHasStandards only to have Doenitz countermand it]]; the reasoning being that if the U-boat crews offered no mercy, they would be granted none. Given the number of U-boat crewmen who survived the war in Allied POW camps was several thousand, the decision was probably wise. Only one incident of a German submarine attacking lifeboats or people in the water was ever confirmed. This was vastly outnumbered by times when U-boat crews were surprisingly solicitous to people in lifeboats, offering food, navigation implements, and course to nearest land -- UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill in ''The Second World War'' even records a case of a U-Boat notifying the British of the coordinates of a sunk merchant ship.

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* German U-boats attacking Allied shipping during [[WorldWarTwo World War II]] UsefulNotes/WorldWarII were accused of this on occasion. Hitler made a strongly worded suggestion towards this end [[EvenEvilHasStandards only to have Doenitz countermand it]]; the reasoning being that if the U-boat crews offered no mercy, they would be granted none. Given the number of U-boat crewmen who survived the war in Allied POW camps was several thousand, the decision was probably wise. Only one incident of a German submarine attacking lifeboats or people in the water was ever confirmed. This was vastly outnumbered by times when U-boat crews were surprisingly solicitous to people in lifeboats, offering food, navigation implements, and course to nearest land -- UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill in ''The Second World War'' even records a case of a U-Boat notifying the British of the coordinates of a sunk merchant ship.



* American submarines and aircraft would occasionally do this in WorldWarTwo if they sank a Japanese ship near Japanese-held or contested islands, on the grounds that Allied troops would have to later kill them anyway. Early in the war, they tried to rescue survivors from Japanese ships that sank or aircraft that were shot down, but after enough of the survivors refused help or tried to kill their would-be rescuers, preferring to go down fighting rather than be taken prisoner, the Americans lost interest in helping them. A regrettable case of IDidWhatIHadToDo or a serious case of MoralDissonance, take your pick. For their part, the Japanese would often execute rescued American fliers who were shot down over Japanese fleets, sometimes immediately after fishing them out of the water, and more than a quarter of captured westerners died in Japanese captivity. They were also known to shell life rafts or dense patches of sailors abandoning ships.

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* American submarines and aircraft would occasionally do this in WorldWarTwo UsefulNotes/WorldWarII if they sank a Japanese ship near Japanese-held or contested islands, on the grounds that Allied troops would have to later kill them anyway. Early in the war, they tried to rescue survivors from Japanese ships that sank or aircraft that were shot down, but after enough of the survivors refused help or tried to kill their would-be rescuers, preferring to go down fighting rather than be taken prisoner, the Americans lost interest in helping them. A regrettable case of IDidWhatIHadToDo or a serious case of MoralDissonance, take your pick. For their part, the Japanese would often execute rescued American fliers who were shot down over Japanese fleets, sometimes immediately after fishing them out of the water, and more than a quarter of captured westerners died in Japanese captivity. They were also known to shell life rafts or dense patches of sailors abandoning ships.



* The Commando Order in WorldWarII; any commandos captured by the Nazis were to be shot, even if in uniform and/or attempting to surrender. However, [[EvenEvilHasStandards some commanders, such as Rommel,]] refused to relay this order to their troops.

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* The Commando Order in WorldWarII; UsefulNotes/WorldWarII; any commandos captured by the Nazis were to be shot, even if in uniform and/or attempting to surrender. However, [[EvenEvilHasStandards some commanders, such as Rommel,]] refused to relay this order to their troops.
2nd Jul '17 11:20:58 PM Qube
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* In the classic ''LlamasWitHats'' 2, Carl manages to sink an entire cruise ship. The dialogue goes something like:

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* In the classic ''LlamasWitHats'' ''LlamasWithHats'' 2, Carl manages to sink an entire cruise ship. The dialogue goes something like:
26th Jun '17 4:50:01 AM Dravencour
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A particularly ruthless (and dishonorable) enemy may decide he wants [[LeaveNoSurvivors no one to live to tell the tale]]. He may torpedo the life boats, shoot down an EjectionSeat or two, blast the [[EscapePod Escape Pods]] to ions, etc. Obviously, this is usually [[MoralEventHorizon a pretty low thing to do]], and in RealLife wars, may (rightly) be considered [[UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar a war crime]], [[WouldNotShootACivilian especially if the craft in question was a civilian craft]].

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A particularly ruthless (and dishonorable) enemy may decide he wants [[LeaveNoSurvivors no one to live to tell the tale]]. He may torpedo the life boats, shoot down an EjectionSeat or two, blast the [[EscapePod Escape Pods]] to ions, seal off all exits, etc. Obviously, this is usually [[MoralEventHorizon a pretty low thing to do]], and in RealLife wars, may (rightly) be considered [[UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar a war crime]], [[WouldNotShootACivilian especially if the craft in question was a civilian craft]].
17th Jun '17 1:25:54 PM nombretomado
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** Shooting on the parachutes was common on many war theaters (especially the Eastern Front) and even during the [[WW1 First World War.]]

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** Shooting on the parachutes was common on many war theaters (especially the Eastern Front) and even during the [[WW1 [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI First World War.]]
14th May '17 8:49:28 PM Amahn
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* A Heroic example in ''Anime/TowardTheTerra''. After the 2nd (or was it 3rd?) TimeSkip (the series had a lot of them) [[spoiler: Jomey has taken over as Soldier and has had it with humans and their treatment of the Mu. To the point he basically declares war on humanity and broadcasts a warning to stay out of the Mu's way or die. To illustrate Jomey's new [[MoralEventHorizon state of mind]], Tony and the other Children Of The Mu take down an entire fleet of human warships with just 3 fighters. As the escape pods are trying to flee Tony lands on one and telepathically asks Jomey a question. The response is to do it. Tony then proceeds to destroy them all, leaving no survivors.]] Even the rest of the Mu are [[WhatTheHellHero taken aback by the move.]]

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* A Heroic rare heroic example in ''Anime/TowardTheTerra''. After the 2nd (or was it 3rd?) TimeSkip (the series had a lot of them) [[spoiler: Jomey has taken over as Soldier and has had it with humans and their treatment of the Mu. To the point he basically declares war on humanity and broadcasts a warning to stay out of the Mu's way or die. To illustrate Jomey's new [[MoralEventHorizon state of mind]], Tony and the other Children Of The Mu take down an entire fleet of human warships with just 3 fighters. As the escape pods are trying to flee Tony lands on one and telepathically asks Jomey a question. The response is to do it. Tony then proceeds to destroy them all, leaving no survivors.]] Even the rest of the Mu are [[WhatTheHellHero taken aback by the move.]]
14th May '17 8:45:33 PM Amahn
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* In ''Anime/TowardTheTerra'' after the 2nd (or was it 3rd?) TimeSkip [[spoiler: Jomey has taken over as Blue and has had it with humans and their treatment of the Mu. To the point he basically declares war on humanity and broadcasts a warning to stay out of the Mu's way or die. To illustrate Jomey's new [[MoralEventHorizon state of mind]], Tony and the other Children Of The Mu take down an entire fleet of human warships with just 3 fighters. As the escape pods are trying to flee Tony lands on one and telepathically asks Jomey a question. The response is to do it. Tony then proceeds to destroy them all, leaving no survivors.]] Even the rest of the Mu are [[WhatTheHellHero taken aback by the move.]]

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* In ''Anime/TowardTheTerra'' after A Heroic example in ''Anime/TowardTheTerra''. After the 2nd (or was it 3rd?) TimeSkip (the series had a lot of them) [[spoiler: Jomey has taken over as Blue Soldier and has had it with humans and their treatment of the Mu. To the point he basically declares war on humanity and broadcasts a warning to stay out of the Mu's way or die. To illustrate Jomey's new [[MoralEventHorizon state of mind]], Tony and the other Children Of The Mu take down an entire fleet of human warships with just 3 fighters. As the escape pods are trying to flee Tony lands on one and telepathically asks Jomey a question. The response is to do it. Tony then proceeds to destroy them all, leaving no survivors.]] Even the rest of the Mu are [[WhatTheHellHero taken aback by the move.]]
14th May '17 8:40:45 PM Amahn
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* In ''Anime/TowardTheTerra'' after the 2nd (or was it 3rd?) TimeSkip [[spoiler: Jomey has taken over as Blue and has had it with humans and their treatment of the Mu. To the point he basically declares war on humanity and broadcasts a warning to stay out of the Mu's way or die. To illustrate Jomey's new [[MoralEventHorizon state of mind]], Tony and the other Children Of The Mu take down an entire fleet of human warships with just 3 fighters. As the escape pods are trying to flee Tony lands on one and telepathically asks Jomey a question. The response is to do it. Tony then proceeds to destroy them all, leaving no survivors.]] Even the rest of the Mu are [[WhatTheHellHero taken aback by the move.]]
13th May '17 5:40:38 AM eroock
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->''All those escape pods. So small. So vulnerable. I'll order their destruction immediately.''

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->''All ->''"All those escape pods. So small. So vulnerable. I'll order their destruction immediately.''"''
29th Apr '17 11:30:29 AM nombretomado
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* In TimothyZahn's ''Literature/TheConquerorsTrilogy'', the Zhirrzh deliberately target and destroy the life pods of the human vessels they defeat. This is actually [[JustifiedTrope justified]], since [[spoiler:radio waves are dangerous to the Zhirrzh, causing them to mistake the automatic distress beacons for weapons]].

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* In TimothyZahn's Creator/TimothyZahn's ''Literature/TheConquerorsTrilogy'', the Zhirrzh deliberately target and destroy the life pods of the human vessels they defeat. This is actually [[JustifiedTrope justified]], since [[spoiler:radio waves are dangerous to the Zhirrzh, causing them to mistake the automatic distress beacons for weapons]].
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