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20th Feb '17 6:15:35 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* Implied near the beginning of ''Film/StarWars: Film/ANewHope''. Two Imperials gunners nearly shoot down the escape pod that the droids are on after the pod launches from Princess Leia's ship, as one of the gunners says, "There goes another one!" When they detect no life signs aboard, they allow the pod to pass. Of course, given the existence of sentient droids and the fact that they're trying to [[LeaveNoWitnesses stop information]] from escaping, not a person, this was a rather foolish approach to take.

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* Implied near the beginning of ''Film/StarWars: ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/ANewHope''. Two Imperials gunners nearly shoot down the escape pod that the droids are on after the pod launches from Princess Leia's ship, as one of the gunners says, "There goes another one!" When they detect no life signs aboard, they allow the pod to pass. Of course, given the existence of sentient droids and the fact that they're trying to [[LeaveNoWitnesses stop information]] from escaping, not a person, this was a rather foolish approach to take.
20th Feb '17 6:14:18 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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For cases of sinking your own lifeboats (Break the kettles and sink the boats) to prevent holding back see BurningTheShips.

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For cases of sinking your own lifeboats (Break the kettles and sink the boats) to prevent holding back back, see BurningTheShips.
10th Feb '17 8:53:10 PM SirVancelot131
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* During the GrandFinale of ''Series/PowerRangersLostGalaxy'', Trakeena (who has gone completely off her rocker after [[spoiler: fusing with Deviot]]) cripples Terra Venture by turning her minions into suicide bombers. She then orders an attack on the fleeing emergency shuttles, which proves one step too far for NobleDemon Villamax.

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* During the GrandFinale of ''Series/PowerRangersLostGalaxy'', Trakeena (who has gone completely off her rocker after [[spoiler: fusing with Deviot]]) cripples Terra Venture by turning her minions into suicide bombers. She then orders an attack on the fleeing emergency shuttles, which proves one step too far for NobleDemon Villamax. He gets destroyed because of his refusal to do it, but this buys the Rangers enough time to attack her ship directly and prevent the shuttles from being hit.
27th Jan '17 7:38:16 AM Kirayoshi
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* In ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'', when cornered by [[{{Kaiju}} the Red Death]], Spitelout shouts, "Back to the ships!" Stoick, realizing what's going on, shouts, "No!" Sure enough, the Red Death torches the Vikings' ships, leaving Stoick and his people stranded on the island and seemingly easy pickings, until [[BigDamnHeroes Hiccup and the Dragon Riders arrive.]]
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25th Jan '17 1:28:54 PM StFan
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* In JohnBirmingham's ''Literature/AxisOfTime'' trilogy, UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy and his crew aboard the PT-109 are horrified when the "uptimers" begin to shoot at the Chinese survivors who are trying to get board and are threatening to capsize the boat. Given that the "uptimers" come from a world where terrorism has gone UpToEleven, this may be expected.

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* In JohnBirmingham's Creator/JohnBirmingham's ''Literature/AxisOfTime'' trilogy, UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy and his crew aboard the PT-109 are horrified when the "uptimers" begin to shoot at the Chinese survivors who are trying to get board and are threatening to capsize the boat. Given that the "uptimers" come from a world where terrorism has gone UpToEleven, this may be expected.



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--> '''Paul''': Ummm...where are the lifeboats?
--> '''Carl''': I have no idea what you are talking about...
--> '''Paul''': Where are the lifeboats, Carl?
--> '''Carl''': Probably at the bottom of the ocean. I bit lots of holes in them.

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--> '''Paul''': -->'''Paul:''' Ummm...where are the lifeboats?
--> '''Carl''':
lifeboats?\\
'''Carl:'''
I have no idea what you are talking about...
--> '''Paul''':
about...\\
'''Paul:'''
Where are the lifeboats, Carl?
--> '''Carl''':
Carl?\\
'''Carl:'''
Probably at the bottom of the ocean. I bit lots of holes in them.



* In ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', General Grievious orders his ship the ''Malevolence'' to shoot at fleeing escape pods. On the grounds that he has a reputation to keep.
** He also had the slightly more legitimate reason of ensuring that the Republic does not learn of the Malevolence's secret weapon (a giant ion cannon) and begin countermeasures. Sure enough, it doesn't take long after some survivors are successfully recovered that the Malevolence is crippled and scuttled.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', General Grievious orders his ship the ''Malevolence'' to shoot at fleeing escape pods. On the grounds that he has a reputation to keep.
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keep. He also had the slightly more legitimate reason of ensuring that the Republic does not learn of the Malevolence's secret weapon (a giant ion cannon) and begin countermeasures. Sure enough, it doesn't take long after some survivors are successfully recovered that the Malevolence ''Malevolence'' is crippled and scuttled.
13th Jan '17 12:38:50 AM Lanes17B
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* One of the most controversial segments of the [[UsefulNotes/ArabIsraeliConflict Six Day War]] involved the American spy ship, ''USS Liberty.'' [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Theories abound as to why it was carried out,]] but the survivors state that after being napalmed, rocketed, and strafed by Israeli strike planes, Israeli gunboats torpedoed the ''Liberty'', the captain of the ''Liberty'' gave the order to AbandonShip. Seeing the American sailors making their way to the life boats, Israeli sailors then riddled the lifeboats with their deck guns, the empty lifeboats that landed in the water were then towed using hooks. Then, it is claimed, that several Israeli Commando filled helicopters were waiting for the chance to [[LeaveNoSurvivors board the crippled ship.]]
25th Nov '16 7:54:20 PM TheRoguePenguin
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* Defied in ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' episode "The Changing Face of Evil," in which the female Founder orders Weyoun NOT to destroy a swarm of escape pods. Her reasoning is that the [[SpareAMessenger frightened troops will return home and spread their fear]], thereby demoralizing the enemies of the [[TheEmpire Dominion]]. This is the exception, though; in "Valiant", for example, the Dominion shoot down the titular ship's escape pods moments after launch (but conveniently miss the main characters).
** It is possible that the Dominion ship was simply shooting at the ship and the escape pods happened to get caught in the crossfire, since the ship wasn't destroyed (read atomized) yet and the Dominion ship was still firing on it when the pods launched. This theory makes some sense because it is unlikely that the Dominion ship would have missed the main characters if they were following this trope.
** [[FreezeFrameBonus If you watch this scene]], they do appear to be deliberately firing at the escape pods, which are well clear of the vessel when hit. The last pod to leave, however, is shielded by the explosion of the Valiant.

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* Defied This is usually the Dominion M.O. in ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' episode ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''. In "Valiant", for example, the Dominion shoot down the titular ship's escape pods moments after launch (but conveniently miss the main characters, who were shielded by the explosion of the ''Valiant''). They do take prisoners occasionally, though certainly not as a rule. This is defied in "The Changing Face of Evil," in which the female Founder orders Weyoun NOT to destroy a swarm of escape pods. Her reasoning is that the [[SpareAMessenger frightened troops will return home and spread their fear]], thereby demoralizing the enemies of the [[TheEmpire Dominion]]. This is the exception, though; in "Valiant", for example, the Dominion shoot down the titular ship's escape pods moments after launch (but conveniently miss the main characters).\n** It is possible that the Dominion ship was simply shooting at the ship and the escape pods happened to get caught in the crossfire, since the ship wasn't destroyed (read atomized) yet and the Dominion ship was still firing on it when the pods launched. This theory makes some sense because it is unlikely that the Dominion ship would have missed the main characters if they were following this trope.\n** [[FreezeFrameBonus If you watch this scene]], they do appear to be deliberately firing at the escape pods, which are well clear of the vessel when hit. The last pod to leave, however, is shielded by the explosion of the Valiant.
21st Nov '16 1:11:49 PM themetalstickman
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** Note that this does not kill anyone permanently -- The victim may lose skill points if he doesn't have a clone body. If he did, he'll need to buy a new clone to avoid the SP loss the next time he dies. Podding also destroys any implants the victim were currently using.

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** Note that this does not kill anyone permanently -- The victim may lose skill points if he doesn't have a clone body. If he did, he'll need to buy a new clone to avoid the SP loss the next time he dies. Podding also destroys permanently, but it does destroy any implants the victim were was currently using.
5th Nov '16 1:09:23 AM BillWoods
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* One of [[HollywoodHistory several historical errors]] in ''Film/{{U 571}}''. The Nazi captain's KickTheDog moment has him machine gunning a lifeboat because it's the Fuhrer's order. As noted in the RealLife section it was the Fuhrer's ''wish'', but Doenitz made sure it never got to the order stage.

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* One of [[HollywoodHistory several historical errors]] in ''Film/{{U 571}}''. The Nazi captain's KickTheDog moment has him machine gunning a lifeboat because it's the Fuhrer's Führer's order. As noted in the RealLife section it was the Fuhrer's Führer's ''wish'', but Doenitz made sure it never got to the order stage.



* In ''Film/StarTrek'', Acting Captain George Kirk has to stay aboard the ''USS Kelvin'' to shoot down the missiles directed at the escaping shuttlecraft by a vengeful Nero.
* Averted in ''Film/StarTrekBeyond'' where the swarm of enemy spacecraft that destroy Enterprise snatch the lifepods as they eject, as they want prisoners for their own purposes.
* In French film ''[[Film/TheDamned1947 The Damned]]'', a Nazi submarine sinks ''another German ship''--Germany has surrendered, but the submarine is manned by TheRemnant, which sinks the surface ship for obeying the surrender order. The folks on the submarine then machine-gun the lifeboats to LeaveNoSurvivors.
* In ''Film/AirForceOne'', as he is wearing one parachutes and tossing the rest out of the plane, Gary Oldman's character gloats that either way (live or die) he wins since the BiggerBad General is being released at the same time.

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* In ''Film/StarTrek'', Acting Captain George Kirk has to stay aboard the ''USS Kelvin'' USS ''Kelvin'' to shoot down the missiles directed at the escaping shuttlecraft by a vengeful Nero.
* Averted in ''Film/StarTrekBeyond'' where the swarm of enemy spacecraft that destroy Enterprise ''Enterprise'' snatch the lifepods as they eject, as they want prisoners for their own purposes.
* In French film ''[[Film/TheDamned1947 The Damned]]'', a Nazi submarine sinks ''another German ship''--Germany ship'' -- Germany has surrendered, but the submarine is manned by TheRemnant, which sinks the surface ship for obeying the surrender order. The folks on the submarine then machine-gun the lifeboats to LeaveNoSurvivors.
* In ''Film/AirForceOne'', as he is wearing one parachutes and tossing the rest out of the plane, Gary Oldman's Creator/GaryOldman's character gloats that either way (live or die) he wins since the BiggerBad General is being released at the same time.



* The ''hero'' of ''Run Silent Run Deep'' does this at the climax of the book to make sure a particularly clever Japanese naval officer won't be around to sink any other U.S. subs. Most of his crew are appalled, and ''he'' [[DirtyBusiness feels pretty down about it, too]]. In the movie version, that part [[LighterAndSofter was left out]].

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* The ''hero'' of ''Run Silent Run Deep'' does this at the climax of the book book, to make sure a particularly clever Japanese naval officer won't be around to sink any other U.S. subs. Most of his crew are appalled, and ''he'' [[DirtyBusiness feels pretty down about it, too]]. In the [[Film/RunSilentRunDeep movie version, version]], that part [[LighterAndSofter was left out]].



** Note that this does not kill anyone permanently - The victim may lose skill points if he doesn't have a clone body. If he did, he'll need to buy a new clone to avoid the SP loss the next time he dies. Podding also destroys any implants the victim were currently using.

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** Note that this does not kill anyone permanently - -- The victim may lose skill points if he doesn't have a clone body. If he did, he'll need to buy a new clone to avoid the SP loss the next time he dies. Podding also destroys any implants the victim were currently using.



* ''VideoGame/SkiesOfArcadia'' has Vyse, Aika, and Fina choosing to bail from the Little Jack when Drachma gets a little too obsessed with hunting down Rhaknam - and for good reason, given that Ramirez's fleet has just caught up with them. The fleet fires on the Little Jack at the time the trio take the escape pods; Ramirez, wanting to be sure that the Blue Rogues pose no further threat, opens fire on them as well.

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* ''VideoGame/SkiesOfArcadia'' has Vyse, Aika, and Fina choosing to bail from the Little Jack when Drachma gets a little too obsessed with hunting down Rhaknam - -- and for good reason, given that Ramirez's fleet has just caught up with them. The fleet fires on the Little Jack at the time the trio take the escape pods; Ramirez, wanting to be sure that the Blue Rogues pose no further threat, opens fire on them as well.



* German U-boats attacking Allied shipping during [[WorldWarTwo World War II]] were accused of this on occasion. Hitler made a strongly worded suggestion towards this end [[EvenEvilHasStandards only to have Doenitz countermand it]]; the reasoning being that if the U-boat crews offered no mercy, they would be granted none. Given the number of U-boat crewmen who survived the war in Allied POW camps was several thousand, the decision was probably wise. Only one incident of a German submarine attacking lifeboats or people in the water was ever confirmed. This was vastly outnumbered by times when U-boat crews were surprisingly solicitous to people in lifeboats, offering food, navigation implements, and course to nearest land- WinstonChurchill in ''The Second World War'' even records a case of a U-Boat notifying the British of the coordinates of a sunk merchant ship.
** One especially notable '''aversion''' was the sinking of the ''Laconia'': upon realising that they had sunk a ship carrying Italian [=POW=]s in addition to British civilians, the captain of the U-boat responsible surfaced, and along with two other U-boats allowed some of the female survivors to board in order to be taken to safety, while radioing in English to any Allied ships in the vicinity that they should expect civilians. Unfortunately some idiot in a US B-24 Liberator came across the U-boat in the midst of rescue operations and bombed it multiple times, with a red cross flag draped across the deck in full view and with the lifeboats tied up to the sub, while a rescued British officer onboard was signalling the plane over the radio that there were women and children aboard. He succeeded in sinking 2 lifeboats and killing dozens of survivors, and received a medal afterwards for his bravery(idiocy). This fiasco led directly to the order not to assist civilian survivors in future. This came up later in the Nuremburg Trials: One of the war crimes that was brought to bear against the Nazis dealt with their unrestricted submarine warfare, and caused an embarrassment for the US Navy when the defense brought up the real story of the Laconia Incident.

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* German U-boats attacking Allied shipping during [[WorldWarTwo World War II]] were accused of this on occasion. Hitler made a strongly worded suggestion towards this end [[EvenEvilHasStandards only to have Doenitz countermand it]]; the reasoning being that if the U-boat crews offered no mercy, they would be granted none. Given the number of U-boat crewmen who survived the war in Allied POW camps was several thousand, the decision was probably wise. Only one incident of a German submarine attacking lifeboats or people in the water was ever confirmed. This was vastly outnumbered by times when U-boat crews were surprisingly solicitous to people in lifeboats, offering food, navigation implements, and course to nearest land- WinstonChurchill land -- UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill in ''The Second World War'' even records a case of a U-Boat notifying the British of the coordinates of a sunk merchant ship.
** One especially notable '''aversion''' was the sinking of the ''Laconia'': upon realising that they had sunk a ship carrying Italian [=POW=]s in addition to British civilians, the captain of the U-boat responsible surfaced, and along with two other U-boats allowed some of the female survivors to board in order to be taken to safety, while radioing in English to any Allied ships in the vicinity that they should expect civilians. Unfortunately some idiot in a US B-24 Liberator came across the U-boat in the midst of rescue operations and bombed it multiple times, with a red cross flag draped across the deck in full view and with the lifeboats tied up to the sub, while a rescued British officer onboard was signalling the plane over the radio that there were women and children aboard. He succeeded in sinking 2 lifeboats and killing dozens of survivors, and received a medal afterwards for his bravery(idiocy). This fiasco led directly to the order not to assist civilian survivors in future. This came up later in the Nuremburg Trials: One of the war crimes that was brought to bear against the Nazis dealt with their unrestricted submarine warfare, and caused an embarrassment for the US Navy when the defense brought up the real story of the Laconia ''Laconia'' Incident.



** Rommel, in fact, made a bit of a habit of this. When ordered to have the 'lazy/cowardly ones' among the Italian troops under his command shot to encourage the rest, he argued ever more elaborate reasons why he couldn't (Culminating in the excuse that shooting all of them would deplete his ammunition, also a dig at his being horribly under-supplied). Truly crowning was that when he received an order similar to the Commando Order that he was to quietly put out the word that any Jewish prisoners of war he captured were to be taken away from the rest and shot, he ignored that and later once word had gotten out, even more quietly put out the word that any of his troops trying to follow that order would be separated from the rest and...

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** Rommel, in fact, made a bit of a habit of this. When ordered to have the 'lazy/cowardly ones' among the Italian troops under his command shot to encourage the rest, he argued ever more elaborate reasons why he couldn't couldn't. (Culminating in the excuse that shooting all of them would deplete his ammunition, also a dig at his being horribly under-supplied). under-supplied.) Truly crowning was that when he received an order similar to the Commando Order that he was to quietly put out the word that any Jewish prisoners of war he captured were to be taken away from the rest and shot, he ignored that and later once word had gotten out, even more quietly put out the word that any of his troops trying to follow that order would be separated from the rest and...and....



* A variation: Any submarine that sinks an isolated enemy vessel will by necessity end up abandoning the survivors to their fate - a submarine does not have the capability or resources to mount a rescue operation.

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* A variation: Any submarine that sinks an isolated enemy vessel will by necessity end up abandoning the survivors to their fate - -- a submarine does not have the capability or resources to mount a rescue operation.



** And it used to against the laws of war--in the age of sail, it was much more reasonable to expect a winning ship to rescue the loser's survivors, especially since there was a good chance they'd capture the enemy ship outright. Britain used to ring up propaganda points against German U-boats on this basis, but it was quietly recognized that the old-fashioned laws were broken by ''everybody's'' submariners, simply because it was completely impractical to do anything else, and the laws were rewritten. An attempt to prosecute Admiral Doenitz at Nuremberg on this basis was dropped when US submarine commanders testified they did exactly the same thing, although he was convicted of other charges.

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** And it used to against the laws of war--in war -- in the age of sail, it was much more reasonable to expect a winning ship to rescue the loser's survivors, especially since there was a good chance they'd capture the enemy ship outright. Britain used to ring up propaganda points against German U-boats on this basis, but it was quietly recognized that the old-fashioned laws were broken by ''everybody's'' submariners, simply because it was completely impractical to do anything else, and the laws were rewritten. An attempt to prosecute Admiral Doenitz at Nuremberg on this basis was dropped when US submarine commanders testified they did exactly the same thing, although he was convicted of other charges.
11th Oct '16 3:59:33 AM storymasterb
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* A variant occurs in ''VideoGame/{{Starcraft}} Brood War'', with Kerrigan overrunning and destroying the fleeing forces of the UED to cement how evil she's become. It's then {{Subverted}} in ''VideoGame/StarcraftIIHeartOfTheSwarm'', as Kerrigan is placed in the same situation (her forces have routed the enemy and the opposing commanding officer tells her to let their men live) and spares fleeing enemy troops, demonstrating that she has regained her humanity.
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