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6th Aug '16 6:19:46 PM Jhonny
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Often, this trope goes hand-in-hand with a case of MistakenNationality, as India, for some reason, suddenly takes on [[ArabianNightsDays Arab and Persian characteristics]] in some American films. In some older Hollywood movies, it's not uncommon to see Aladdin and Genies[[note]]Silly, of course, since everyone knows that Aladdin was actually set in ''China''.[[/note]] tossed together with Hindu deities. To be fair, this is TruthInTelevision to an extent as India has a large Muslim population (13.4%, according to TheOtherWiki) and was ruled by Islamic kingdoms for century-spanning portions of its history,[[note]]And parts of what used to be considered part of India went on to form the nations of UsefulNotes/{{Pakistan}} and UsefulNotes/{{Bangladesh}}, which both have majority Muslim populations[[/note]] so it's certainly been more influenced by the Middle East than most Western countries have been. Also, the languages of northern India are mostly Indo-Aryan, making them distantly related to Persian.

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Often, this trope goes hand-in-hand with a case of MistakenNationality, as India, for some reason, suddenly takes on [[ArabianNightsDays Arab and Persian characteristics]] in some American films. In some older Hollywood movies, it's not uncommon to see Aladdin and Genies[[note]]Silly, of course, since everyone knows that Aladdin was actually set in ''China''.[[/note]] tossed together with Hindu deities. To be fair, this is TruthInTelevision to an extent as India has a large Muslim population (13.4%, according to TheOtherWiki) and was ruled by Islamic kingdoms for century-spanning portions of its history,[[note]]And parts of what used to be considered part of India went on to form the nations of UsefulNotes/{{Pakistan}} and UsefulNotes/{{Bangladesh}}, which both have majority Muslim populations[[/note]] so it's certainly been more influenced by the Middle East than most Western countries have been. Also, the languages of northern India are mostly Indo-Aryan, making them distantly related to Persian.
Persian and - even more distantly - to English (That's where the term "Indo-European" languages comes from of which Indo-Aryan is a subset just like Germanic).
24th May '16 10:08:40 PM puellapeanut
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** But India DID have these thing in that era - even books/history as documented by Indians will claim that. And the book ''makes sure'' to point out the stereotypes of India as well as deconstructing the fairytale-like aspect of India. The author also calls out the BritishEmpire on their stereotypes and their MightyWhitey way of thinking time and time again. The beauty about the book is that it is honest in showing ''all sides'' of India - the mythical, the political and everything else. That's exactly what makes it a complex picture of race, social customs and identity.

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** But India DID have these thing in that era - even books/history as documented by Indians will claim that. And the book ''makes sure'' to point out the stereotypes of India as well as deconstructing the fairytale-like aspect of India. The author also calls out the BritishEmpire TheBritishEmpire on their stereotypes and their MightyWhitey way of thinking time and time again. The beauty about the book is that it is honest in showing ''all sides'' of India - the mythical, the political and everything else. That's exactly what makes it a complex picture of race, social customs and identity.
24th May '16 10:08:03 PM puellapeanut
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** But India DID have these thing in that era - even books/history as documented by Indians will claim that. And the book ''makes sure'' to point out the stereotypes of India as well as deconstructing the fairytale-like aspect of India. The author also calls out the BritishEmpire on their stereotypes and their MightyWhitey way of thinking time and time again. The beauty about the book is that it is honest in showing ''all sides'' of India - the mythical, the political and everything else. That's exactly what makes it a complex picture of race, social customs and identity.
28th Apr '16 6:40:02 AM fusilcontrafusil
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** [[TropeNamer Named for]] the magic words used by Hadji in TOS (1964-1965) who grew up in a version of this India (though the phrase is a old stock one, like ''abracadabra'', ''hocus pocus'' or ''alakazam''). He could control snakes by playing his flute, had fakir style powers such as levitation, and incredible skill at hypnotizing others.

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** [[TropeNamer Named for]] the magic words used by Hadji in TOS (1964-1965) who grew up in a version of this India (though the phrase is a an old stock one, one like ''abracadabra'', ''hocus pocus'' or ''alakazam'').and originally derived from a ''Danish'' children's song). He could control snakes by playing his flute, had fakir style powers such as levitation, and incredible skill at hypnotizing others.
28th Apr '16 6:31:18 AM fusilcontrafusil
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** [[TropeNamer Named for]] the magic words used by Hadji in TOS (1964-1965) who grew up in a version of this India. He could control snakes by playing his flute, had fakir style powers such as levitation, and incredible skill at hypnotizing others.

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** [[TropeNamer Named for]] the magic words used by Hadji in TOS (1964-1965) who grew up in a version of this India.India (though the phrase is a old stock one, like ''abracadabra'', ''hocus pocus'' or ''alakazam''). He could control snakes by playing his flute, had fakir style powers such as levitation, and incredible skill at hypnotizing others.
28th Feb '16 1:30:58 PM Menshevik
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* Lextropur in the NickKnatterton adventure of ''The Indian Diamond Suitcase''.
31st Dec '15 4:57:14 AM Arivne
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* [[TropeNamer Named for]] the magic words used by Hadji of ''WesternAnimation/JonnyQuest,'' who grew up in a version of this India. ''WesternAnimation/JonnyQuestTheRealAdventures'' also gave Hadji some quite sleazy hacker skills; though this was meant to subvert this stereotype, [[ReverseFunnyAneurysm little did they know]] that hacker skills would make him ''[[BollywoodNerd even more of a stereotypical Indian]]'', now that India is a big software development superpower!

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* ''WesternAnimation/JonnyQuest''
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[[TropeNamer Named for]] the magic words used by Hadji of ''WesternAnimation/JonnyQuest,'' in TOS (1964-1965) who grew up in a version of this India. He could control snakes by playing his flute, had fakir style powers such as levitation, and incredible skill at hypnotizing others.
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''WesternAnimation/JonnyQuestTheRealAdventures'' also gave Hadji some quite sleazy hacker skills; though this was meant to subvert this stereotype, [[ReverseFunnyAneurysm little did they know]] that hacker skills would make him ''[[BollywoodNerd even more of a stereotypical Indian]]'', now that India is a big software development superpower!
3rd Nov '15 11:26:09 PM Fireblood
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* Ricky Gervais's character in ''Film/GhostTown'' seems to follow this mentality when asking fellow dentist Dr. Prashar, for advice:

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* Ricky Gervais's character in ''Film/GhostTown'' seems to follow this mentality when asking fellow dentist Dr. Prashar, Prashar for advice:
3rd Nov '15 11:25:34 PM Fireblood
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* Ricky Gervais's character in ''Film/GhostTown'' seems to follow this mentality when asking fellow dentist, Dr. Prashar, for advice -

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* Ricky Gervais's character in ''Film/GhostTown'' seems to follow this mentality when asking fellow dentist, dentist Dr. Prashar, for advice -advice:
1st Nov '15 6:58:45 PM nombretomado
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** {{Kim}} can't be left out; it may be the best example of this being a cross section of India during TheRaj.
* [[IncrediblyLamePun Cleverly subverted]] by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Cleverly Barbara Cleverly]] in ''TheLastKashmiriRose'' (2001) - as there is no modern interest to display [[TheRaj Colonial India]] as a [[YeGoodeOldeDays Disneyfied]] place of superstitious natives ruled by brave colonial administrators and [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy turbaned rifle-armed Martial Race troopers]], she could freely display the vices of the system: idleness, drunkenness, exploitation of cheap labor (even poor Brits could afford Indian servants), incompetence...

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** {{Kim}} can't be left out; it may be the best example of this being a cross section of India during TheRaj.
UsefulNotes/TheRaj.
* [[IncrediblyLamePun Cleverly subverted]] by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Cleverly Barbara Cleverly]] in ''TheLastKashmiriRose'' (2001) - as there is no modern interest to display [[TheRaj [[UsefulNotes/TheRaj Colonial India]] as a [[YeGoodeOldeDays Disneyfied]] place of superstitious natives ruled by brave colonial administrators and [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy turbaned rifle-armed Martial Race troopers]], she could freely display the vices of the system: idleness, drunkenness, exploitation of cheap labor (even poor Brits could afford Indian servants), incompetence...



* ''TheFarPavilions'' - the 1984 TV series and the 1978 novel on which it had been based - has them all: snakes as murder weapons, cruel and superstitious natives, sati, characters RaisedByNatives, the might of TheRaj putting things back in order and so on.

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* ''TheFarPavilions'' - the 1984 TV series and the 1978 novel on which it had been based - has them all: snakes as murder weapons, cruel and superstitious natives, sati, characters RaisedByNatives, the might of TheRaj UsefulNotes/TheRaj putting things back in order and so on.
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